It's evident this is a dated movie, but I think it is eminently watchable. Not Capra's best by any means, but a decent insight to the workings of circuses in the late 20's. A score of wonderful character actors, slapstick and physical comedy nicely blended with vaudeville routines. Yes, the dialog is fast-paced, but there are great one-liners and wholesome comedy. It's a shame the musical numbers are dealt with in the opening and closing credits rather than scored in the movie. Joe Cook is amazing as he juggles, tightrope walks, and balances his way through the movie. His dialogue is quick, tight, and funny. Most of the actors were unknown to me as an amateur film buff, but now I will look for more of their movies. The viewer can see the similarity to Wheeler and Woolsey, The Marx Brothers, Al Jolson, and other stars of early talkies. The visual reproduction is very good, with little background noise, as is the audio recording. This movie is part of a new Early Capra release with four other titles.
11 Reviews
Best and worst
kcfl-121 May 2009
I think previous commentators have missed the boat on this. The film is a matter of the director overcoming the star. Joe Cook's shtick wears thin. His first encounter with the store owner is droll, but a series of non-sequiters do not make a comedy. Capra's direction is brilliant. (Spolier:) Obviously, the elephant pushing the fat lady is a tour de force, and the riot and fire at the climax are spectacular, but notice his great tracking shots. The camera follows characters as they saunter through the circus. What was worth seeing and preserving here is not Cook's quaint act, but the way of life of the circus, a "Water for Elephants" scene.
An Anomaly For Capra
CitizenCaine20 June 2009
Warning: Spoilers
This oddball film boasts an equally oddball cast. Joe Cook, the famous vaudeville performer, stars as Smiley Johnson, a master huckster/manager/showman for a floundering circus inherited by Mary Rainey, played by Joan Peers. Cook is a one man band as he badgers, cajoles, fast-talks, performs, and generally outshines all the other actors and actresses who appear in this film. The loosely strung together plot merely serves as an entertainment showcase for Cook and his two primary stooges who also have appearances in the film. The actor playing a fool most of the time is Dave Chasen, the man who founded the famous restaurant in Hollywood. The other stooge is Tom Howard who eventually picks up on Cook's hijinks, and works on others in the same manner.
One gets the notion there isn't much of a story here besides Cook and company's antics. There's a hilarious bit with a fat lady near the beginning of the film who does reappear later in the film for another one of Cook's barbs, but that's it. Louise Fazenda plays princess, one of the circus performers, and she has a funny bit with Cook when they team up to con Howard into buying a 20% share of the circus. After that, she disappears, and that's what hurts this film for the most part. Characters come and go at will throughout the film with nary a reason.
Highlights of the film besides Cook include the circus acts themselves, and the hilarious dinner party sequence (which reminded me of something viewers might see in a W.C. Fields movie). The tea gag, the celery bit, and the spaghetti joke, coupled with Cook's frenetic pace, made for a most amusing dinner party without the actual dinner. Cook shows off again at the end in the big circus finale when chaos erupts due to the sheriff attaching the show's receipts. Cook was a tremendous performer who deserved a place in films, but he only made a few appearances in the 1930's. He was later afflicted with Parkinson's Disease.
Frank Capra directed the film, and few of his touches are apparent. There are some great tracking shots under the big top, which Capra was known for, and some really snappy dialog at times. Capra was also fond of the small town flavor present in the film. Jo Swerling and Dorothy Howell co-adapted the film from the play by the later well known character actor: James Gleason. Maurice Marks wrote the book. It's probably not a good example of a Frank Capra film, but it's fast paced, old-fashioned Hollywood entertainment. **1/2 of 4 stars.
One gets the notion there isn't much of a story here besides Cook and company's antics. There's a hilarious bit with a fat lady near the beginning of the film who does reappear later in the film for another one of Cook's barbs, but that's it. Louise Fazenda plays princess, one of the circus performers, and she has a funny bit with Cook when they team up to con Howard into buying a 20% share of the circus. After that, she disappears, and that's what hurts this film for the most part. Characters come and go at will throughout the film with nary a reason.
Highlights of the film besides Cook include the circus acts themselves, and the hilarious dinner party sequence (which reminded me of something viewers might see in a W.C. Fields movie). The tea gag, the celery bit, and the spaghetti joke, coupled with Cook's frenetic pace, made for a most amusing dinner party without the actual dinner. Cook shows off again at the end in the big circus finale when chaos erupts due to the sheriff attaching the show's receipts. Cook was a tremendous performer who deserved a place in films, but he only made a few appearances in the 1930's. He was later afflicted with Parkinson's Disease.
Frank Capra directed the film, and few of his touches are apparent. There are some great tracking shots under the big top, which Capra was known for, and some really snappy dialog at times. Capra was also fond of the small town flavor present in the film. Jo Swerling and Dorothy Howell co-adapted the film from the play by the later well known character actor: James Gleason. Maurice Marks wrote the book. It's probably not a good example of a Frank Capra film, but it's fast paced, old-fashioned Hollywood entertainment. **1/2 of 4 stars.
Joe Cook, the "One Man Vaudeville"
drednm11 May 2009
RAIN OR SHINE is a neat little circus film directed by Frank Capra and based on a Broadway musical that ran for almost a year in 1928.
By the time this film went into production, the vogue for musicals was over, so all the songs were cut from the film (a common occurrence in 1930). Still, there was enough plot to carry the 90-minute film.
Joe Cook was the star. The long-forgotten, Cook was a major star on Broadway. His nickname was "the one-man vaudeville" because he could sing, dance, do comedy, and perform a series of juggling tricks. Cook made his film debut in a 1929 talkie short called AT THE BALLGAME.
In RAIN OR SHINE he plays the fast-talking manager of a failing circus owned by a girl (Joan Peers) who inherited it from her father. Two employees are in cahoots to ensure the circus fails so they can take it over. In a weak subplot, Peers and her boyfriend (William Collier, Jr.) attend a disastrous dinner party at his snooty parents' mansion.
Cook is front and center through most of the film as he attends to all the problems and egos under the big top. There's also a funny running gag with Cook and a local citizen (Tom Howard) and how he becomes a partner with the help of the Princess (Louise Fazenda).
The finale is quite exciting after the bank attaches the day's receipts and the performers realize they won't get paid. Cook is terrific in a series of circus tricks as he tries to put on a big-top show all by himself. Peers and Collier are OK as the young lovers, Fazenda has little to do, Howard is funny as the local, and Dave Chasen (who founded the famous restaurant) is funny as the stooge.
By the time this film went into production, the vogue for musicals was over, so all the songs were cut from the film (a common occurrence in 1930). Still, there was enough plot to carry the 90-minute film.
Joe Cook was the star. The long-forgotten, Cook was a major star on Broadway. His nickname was "the one-man vaudeville" because he could sing, dance, do comedy, and perform a series of juggling tricks. Cook made his film debut in a 1929 talkie short called AT THE BALLGAME.
In RAIN OR SHINE he plays the fast-talking manager of a failing circus owned by a girl (Joan Peers) who inherited it from her father. Two employees are in cahoots to ensure the circus fails so they can take it over. In a weak subplot, Peers and her boyfriend (William Collier, Jr.) attend a disastrous dinner party at his snooty parents' mansion.
Cook is front and center through most of the film as he attends to all the problems and egos under the big top. There's also a funny running gag with Cook and a local citizen (Tom Howard) and how he becomes a partner with the help of the Princess (Louise Fazenda).
The finale is quite exciting after the bank attaches the day's receipts and the performers realize they won't get paid. Cook is terrific in a series of circus tricks as he tries to put on a big-top show all by himself. Peers and Collier are OK as the young lovers, Fazenda has little to do, Howard is funny as the local, and Dave Chasen (who founded the famous restaurant) is funny as the stooge.
Make it stop, make it stop!
planktonrules24 June 2009
In the early days of sound films, studios really didn't know how to use the new medium. Instead of normal speaking voices and normal actors, Hollywood felt a need to overwhelm the audience with sound. A lot of vaudeville comics who spoke a mile a minute were shoved in front of the cameras to take advantage of the fact that audiences could now hear the actors speak. Some of these early talkies are downright dreadful while some others are just odd curios. RAIN OR SHINE falls into the category of just plain dreadful.
Most of the blame for this film being so terrible and tough to watch falls on the shoulders of its director, Frank Capra. While Capra did great things for Harry Langdon during the silent era and from the mid-1930s on he made some of the most iconic American films of the era (IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT, MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON, MEET JOHN DOE and many others), but even great directors have their duds--and this film was definitely a dud.
The film is nominally about a circus that is chronically on the verge of bankruptcy. However, the entire show was the vaudevillian, Joe Cook. While one of the reviewers thought that Cook was hilarious, he was simply too much--like a giant migraine. He talked and talked and talked and talked. If you liked this sort of in your face routine again and again, then you'd probably like the film. However, I didn't think he was funny and felt the director should have placed more emphasis on the talented members of the cast. That, or simply punched Cook in the mouth and told him to shut the heck up!! Terrible pacing, annoying dialog and nothing to like--this is truly one of the most painful films I have seen. I only kept watching because I assumed it would get better---it didn't.
Most of the blame for this film being so terrible and tough to watch falls on the shoulders of its director, Frank Capra. While Capra did great things for Harry Langdon during the silent era and from the mid-1930s on he made some of the most iconic American films of the era (IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT, MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON, MEET JOHN DOE and many others), but even great directors have their duds--and this film was definitely a dud.
The film is nominally about a circus that is chronically on the verge of bankruptcy. However, the entire show was the vaudevillian, Joe Cook. While one of the reviewers thought that Cook was hilarious, he was simply too much--like a giant migraine. He talked and talked and talked and talked. If you liked this sort of in your face routine again and again, then you'd probably like the film. However, I didn't think he was funny and felt the director should have placed more emphasis on the talented members of the cast. That, or simply punched Cook in the mouth and told him to shut the heck up!! Terrible pacing, annoying dialog and nothing to like--this is truly one of the most painful films I have seen. I only kept watching because I assumed it would get better---it didn't.
Not the best Capra
alenzizak12 February 2017
Pretty bad film.
This is like an exploitation film of the circus. It easily could have been the documentary about life of circus people; that would have been actually pretty impressive, since there are not much documentaries about circus folks, at least not at that time. Errol Morris' Fast, Cheap & Out of Control is almost 70 years later.
But I digress. There is not much plot here, it's just circus doing circus in front of the camera. Acting is poor, story is not existent and it's pretty obvious that Capra at that time was the gun for hire and did what studio demanded.
There is only one reason to watch this film. If you are on a Capra marathon, e.g. you want to see all the Capra film, go ahead. If you don't seek to accomplish that, just stay away from pre-1933 Capra films. Almost all of them are pretty bad.
This is like an exploitation film of the circus. It easily could have been the documentary about life of circus people; that would have been actually pretty impressive, since there are not much documentaries about circus folks, at least not at that time. Errol Morris' Fast, Cheap & Out of Control is almost 70 years later.
But I digress. There is not much plot here, it's just circus doing circus in front of the camera. Acting is poor, story is not existent and it's pretty obvious that Capra at that time was the gun for hire and did what studio demanded.
There is only one reason to watch this film. If you are on a Capra marathon, e.g. you want to see all the Capra film, go ahead. If you don't seek to accomplish that, just stay away from pre-1933 Capra films. Almost all of them are pretty bad.
When the Lead is a ASS, 24/7!!!
xerses1329 December 2009
Think of THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH (1952) done on the cheap and a small scale, very small scale. RAIN OR SHINE (1930) is based upon lead actor Joe Cook's Broadway Show of 1928. In which Mr. Cook single handedly performs as if he was the entire Circus. That is recreated in this Capra film along with all the clichés of the Genre. Bankrupt Circus, Sheriff at the door and the inevitable Fight and Fire. Plenty of stereotypical characters, so if you are P.C. thin skinned you had better skip this one.
Joe Cook as SMILEY JOHNSON saves the Circus for Louise Fazenda as FRANKIE, 'The Princess' only too see it go up in smoke in the last reel. Cook's style was that of VAUDEVILLE, where a rather overbearing character is the center of attraction and supposedly well liked. Cook is unremitting in hammering the audience with his act which does not let up for the entire picture. In fact he probably acted this way 24/7 which makes me feel sad for his significant other.
By 1930 VAUDEVILLE was on its last legs. Beginning in Circa 1880 it was a popular live entertainment particularly for the 'middle class'. By 1920 though Silent Pictures had been established as a major threat. Then mid-decade came Radio, home entertainment provided for free which many Vaudevillians took advantage of, transferring their talents too the new medium. The Great Depression and by 1930 the perfection of the Sound Film, created the death blow. The theaters that supported VAUDEVILLE either closed or converted to movies, those who could cut it either moved too film or radio. As for live performance, you were either on Broadway or you did not count at all. Cook continued with success on Broadway where his style of acting could be tolerated. Film definitely was not his medium.
Joe Cook as SMILEY JOHNSON saves the Circus for Louise Fazenda as FRANKIE, 'The Princess' only too see it go up in smoke in the last reel. Cook's style was that of VAUDEVILLE, where a rather overbearing character is the center of attraction and supposedly well liked. Cook is unremitting in hammering the audience with his act which does not let up for the entire picture. In fact he probably acted this way 24/7 which makes me feel sad for his significant other.
By 1930 VAUDEVILLE was on its last legs. Beginning in Circa 1880 it was a popular live entertainment particularly for the 'middle class'. By 1920 though Silent Pictures had been established as a major threat. Then mid-decade came Radio, home entertainment provided for free which many Vaudevillians took advantage of, transferring their talents too the new medium. The Great Depression and by 1930 the perfection of the Sound Film, created the death blow. The theaters that supported VAUDEVILLE either closed or converted to movies, those who could cut it either moved too film or radio. As for live performance, you were either on Broadway or you did not count at all. Cook continued with success on Broadway where his style of acting could be tolerated. Film definitely was not his medium.
Joe Cook is kind of entertaining, at least
davidmvining19 January 2024
Imagine a Marx Brothers movie where they took the plot seriously. That's pretty much Rain or Shine, a revue to highlight the vaudeville talents of Joe Cook and a few others but matched with this lightly melodramatic take on the troubles of a financing a traveling circus. It's such a weird combination that only ever really works in one moment, perhaps by accident, creating this dichotomy that clashes more than anything else.
Frankie (Louise Fazenda) has inherited her father's circus upon his death, and the first season with her in charge is coming to a ruinous close. Her circus manager Smiley (Cook), a jokey fellow who always has a line to try and cheer her up, is optimistic about the future, an optimism shared by Bud (William Collier, Jr.), Frankie's beau (though there seems to be a conflict between the two men for Frankie's heart, though it comes to nothing) because they are coming upon his hometown of Shrewsberry where they'll get great crowds and turn things around. At the same time, the star horse rider, Dalton (Alan Roscoe), and band leader, Foltz (Adolph Milar), conspire to pool their resources and ideas to buy the circus out from Frankie when she hits a bad moment.
You see, this story is surprisingly serious, and I bring up the Marx Brothers because they were being introduced to the world in the early sound era through adaptations of their stage plays that were relentless applications of vaudeville comedy. We get that in sections mainly through the interactions of Smiley with the local Amos K. Shrewsberry (Tom Howard) with whom he develops a twisted little relationship based on Smiley's fast talking style to con him out of thousands of dollars while Shrewsberry just sticks around in befuddled style. However, that gets intercut with this stuff around Frankie dealing with the finances, her relationship with Bud, and her attempt to enter high society of Shrewsberry that Smiley completely ruins.
What helps the film is that it allows Cook to do his thing for long stretches. He really does remind me of some combination of Groucho and Harpo Marx (mainly because he does the hat in the foot thing once). He's a fast talker that has his own bits that he plays all the way through, mostly to Howard who works so well with Cook that I assumed they were a team. How Smiley talks Shrewsberry into handing over $5,000 is just a wonderful display of rhetorical excess. How Shrewsberry tries to mimic it later is the work of a talented performer as well. This movie rises and falls on its comedy, and I just wish there was more of it.
Because when the plot reappears with Frankie getting all angry at Smiley for ruining the big dinner, it just feels so out of place. I was thinking of how Margaret Dumont always reacted to Groucho, just kind of accepting his manic behavior as largely normal and continuing on with the action of the plot, and how much that worked as opposed to these starts and stops of earnestness in the face of ridiculousness.
However, I will give the film credit for the scale of its ending. Dalton and Foltz execute their plan to get Frankie desperate and sell the circus to them (considering the crowds, it doesn't make the most sense, but okay), and all chaos erupts, reminding me of the ending to Capra's first film, the Harry Langdon starring The Strong Man. There's something to be said about the sheer amount of chaos unleashed. It's kind of fun to watch.
There's also a very late moment when, in the detritus of the chaos, Smiley and Shrewsberry calmly sit together and go through one of their routines in a quiet manner, which seems to be the one point in the film where the two diametrically opposing tonal forces of the film actually meet. It doesn't lead to anything, but it's a surprisingly nice moment.
So, the dramatic elements are not that good, never really go anywhere, and kind of half-formed at best. However, the comedy is generally pretty good and fun to watch. I just wish that Capra had changed the source material (a musical play by James Gleason and Maurice Marks) more than by cutting out the musical numbers to make it an outright comedy. But, what do I know? It was apparently a box office success.
Frankie (Louise Fazenda) has inherited her father's circus upon his death, and the first season with her in charge is coming to a ruinous close. Her circus manager Smiley (Cook), a jokey fellow who always has a line to try and cheer her up, is optimistic about the future, an optimism shared by Bud (William Collier, Jr.), Frankie's beau (though there seems to be a conflict between the two men for Frankie's heart, though it comes to nothing) because they are coming upon his hometown of Shrewsberry where they'll get great crowds and turn things around. At the same time, the star horse rider, Dalton (Alan Roscoe), and band leader, Foltz (Adolph Milar), conspire to pool their resources and ideas to buy the circus out from Frankie when she hits a bad moment.
You see, this story is surprisingly serious, and I bring up the Marx Brothers because they were being introduced to the world in the early sound era through adaptations of their stage plays that were relentless applications of vaudeville comedy. We get that in sections mainly through the interactions of Smiley with the local Amos K. Shrewsberry (Tom Howard) with whom he develops a twisted little relationship based on Smiley's fast talking style to con him out of thousands of dollars while Shrewsberry just sticks around in befuddled style. However, that gets intercut with this stuff around Frankie dealing with the finances, her relationship with Bud, and her attempt to enter high society of Shrewsberry that Smiley completely ruins.
What helps the film is that it allows Cook to do his thing for long stretches. He really does remind me of some combination of Groucho and Harpo Marx (mainly because he does the hat in the foot thing once). He's a fast talker that has his own bits that he plays all the way through, mostly to Howard who works so well with Cook that I assumed they were a team. How Smiley talks Shrewsberry into handing over $5,000 is just a wonderful display of rhetorical excess. How Shrewsberry tries to mimic it later is the work of a talented performer as well. This movie rises and falls on its comedy, and I just wish there was more of it.
Because when the plot reappears with Frankie getting all angry at Smiley for ruining the big dinner, it just feels so out of place. I was thinking of how Margaret Dumont always reacted to Groucho, just kind of accepting his manic behavior as largely normal and continuing on with the action of the plot, and how much that worked as opposed to these starts and stops of earnestness in the face of ridiculousness.
However, I will give the film credit for the scale of its ending. Dalton and Foltz execute their plan to get Frankie desperate and sell the circus to them (considering the crowds, it doesn't make the most sense, but okay), and all chaos erupts, reminding me of the ending to Capra's first film, the Harry Langdon starring The Strong Man. There's something to be said about the sheer amount of chaos unleashed. It's kind of fun to watch.
There's also a very late moment when, in the detritus of the chaos, Smiley and Shrewsberry calmly sit together and go through one of their routines in a quiet manner, which seems to be the one point in the film where the two diametrically opposing tonal forces of the film actually meet. It doesn't lead to anything, but it's a surprisingly nice moment.
So, the dramatic elements are not that good, never really go anywhere, and kind of half-formed at best. However, the comedy is generally pretty good and fun to watch. I just wish that Capra had changed the source material (a musical play by James Gleason and Maurice Marks) more than by cutting out the musical numbers to make it an outright comedy. But, what do I know? It was apparently a box office success.
J.C. - 1890 to 1959: Regretfully we'll never see that imitation of Hawaiian musicians at once.
theowinthrop19 September 2007
Warning: Spoilers
I regret that I have only seen about two fifths of this nice early talky comedy. You can see the scenes I saw on You Tube.
But I have seen enough to see that under the jointly able hands of Joe Cook and director Frank Capra we have a first rate comedy. It's also another example of saving those chunks of the past that we thoughtlessly throw aside. In this case the wonderful but brief Broadway career of Joe Cook, comedian extroadinaire.
Who he? That's the tragedy of Broadway fame. Unless a filmed account or a kine-scope or video is made of a classic Broadway turn or performance we have little idea of what audiences of (say 1925) enjoyed. That's one more reason to savor films of W.C.Fields or the Marx Brothers or even the few with Bea Lillie. Cook made a handful of films before illness (Parkinson's disease) cut into his abilities. Savor them - he's well worth it.
With the Brothers, Fields, Lillie, Bert Lahr, Jimmy Durante, Victor Moore and William Gaxton, Bobby Clark and Paul McCullough, and a handful more, Cook captured Broadway. He was a great acrobatic comic and juggler. Whether a better juggler than Fields I can't say, but Fields never ventured on tight ropes to do the kinds of things that Cook did (and which is in this film, as it is a circus film: look at him on a wire and twirling four metal hoops around his neck, arms, and loose leg. W.C. did not do that, nor Groucho).
Like Groucho, Clark, and W.C., Cook could double-talk with the best of them. His spectacular thing was the totally meaningless explanation or anecdote. It works this way - he comes to somebody doing something, and starts going into a long discussion which seems to be heading to some point regarding the activity going on. Then, all of a sudden, the anecdote is finished. Only it has not gotten to anything of use to the hearer.
In this film there is a scene where Tom Howard (A.K. Shrewsberry - feed merchant, unsuccessful debt collector, and unwilling partner of Cook's Smiley Johnson) is cleaning his vest from a mustard stain. Cook stumbles on him and sees what he's doing. Suddenly he remembers from his youth how he had cereal (corn flakes) for breakfast, and how he did not use the regular milk but evaporated (canned) milk and sugar. One day...but watch You Tube to see the result of the story and Howard's total incredulity at the end about what he hears and what's it supposed to illustrate.
The other two sections of the film on You Tube deal with how Cook (who owes Howard a huge feed bill) double-talks the other one out of his lawful position as creditor. From the start Howard is in trouble, as Cook has him passing out circus fliers, and as he makes a solid, sensible comment on a passing statement. Howard says, "I want to have a conversation with you in private." Cook replies, "That's impossible - we'll be together." Howard is doomed from the start.
There is also the best portion of the segments on YOU TUBE of what happens when the unpaid circus performers go on strike after the audience fills the big top. There Cook shows his skills as an acrobat and juggler. You will be deeply impressed. You'll also see a mop top assistant - Cook's partner/stooge Dave Chasen, adding his bits to the sequence. Chasen eventually became famous for his restaurant to the stars (like Romanov's) in Hollywood - also called Chasen.
By the way, my mention in the summary line is truly based on what I have read on Cook. I don't know if he ever put it on film before he stopped making movies, but his best remembered stage stunt was to walk out on stage strumming a ukulele, and telling the audience he was going to imitate a four man Hawaiian band performing at once. Two are dancing (he swivels his hips and taps a foot), one is playing the uke, and one is whistling. Then he says, "You may wonder why I am doing this." He launches into a pointless discussion on how he gradually invested his money well, made it into a larger and larger pile, and got about $50,000.00 (in 1925 money). Then he stops and looks at the audience, and says "And if I have $50,000.00 why should I imitate four Hawaiians performing at once!" So he'd stop and walk off the stage, as the audience roared with laughter.
I wish more of that work could have been preserved.
But I have seen enough to see that under the jointly able hands of Joe Cook and director Frank Capra we have a first rate comedy. It's also another example of saving those chunks of the past that we thoughtlessly throw aside. In this case the wonderful but brief Broadway career of Joe Cook, comedian extroadinaire.
Who he? That's the tragedy of Broadway fame. Unless a filmed account or a kine-scope or video is made of a classic Broadway turn or performance we have little idea of what audiences of (say 1925) enjoyed. That's one more reason to savor films of W.C.Fields or the Marx Brothers or even the few with Bea Lillie. Cook made a handful of films before illness (Parkinson's disease) cut into his abilities. Savor them - he's well worth it.
With the Brothers, Fields, Lillie, Bert Lahr, Jimmy Durante, Victor Moore and William Gaxton, Bobby Clark and Paul McCullough, and a handful more, Cook captured Broadway. He was a great acrobatic comic and juggler. Whether a better juggler than Fields I can't say, but Fields never ventured on tight ropes to do the kinds of things that Cook did (and which is in this film, as it is a circus film: look at him on a wire and twirling four metal hoops around his neck, arms, and loose leg. W.C. did not do that, nor Groucho).
Like Groucho, Clark, and W.C., Cook could double-talk with the best of them. His spectacular thing was the totally meaningless explanation or anecdote. It works this way - he comes to somebody doing something, and starts going into a long discussion which seems to be heading to some point regarding the activity going on. Then, all of a sudden, the anecdote is finished. Only it has not gotten to anything of use to the hearer.
In this film there is a scene where Tom Howard (A.K. Shrewsberry - feed merchant, unsuccessful debt collector, and unwilling partner of Cook's Smiley Johnson) is cleaning his vest from a mustard stain. Cook stumbles on him and sees what he's doing. Suddenly he remembers from his youth how he had cereal (corn flakes) for breakfast, and how he did not use the regular milk but evaporated (canned) milk and sugar. One day...but watch You Tube to see the result of the story and Howard's total incredulity at the end about what he hears and what's it supposed to illustrate.
The other two sections of the film on You Tube deal with how Cook (who owes Howard a huge feed bill) double-talks the other one out of his lawful position as creditor. From the start Howard is in trouble, as Cook has him passing out circus fliers, and as he makes a solid, sensible comment on a passing statement. Howard says, "I want to have a conversation with you in private." Cook replies, "That's impossible - we'll be together." Howard is doomed from the start.
There is also the best portion of the segments on YOU TUBE of what happens when the unpaid circus performers go on strike after the audience fills the big top. There Cook shows his skills as an acrobat and juggler. You will be deeply impressed. You'll also see a mop top assistant - Cook's partner/stooge Dave Chasen, adding his bits to the sequence. Chasen eventually became famous for his restaurant to the stars (like Romanov's) in Hollywood - also called Chasen.
By the way, my mention in the summary line is truly based on what I have read on Cook. I don't know if he ever put it on film before he stopped making movies, but his best remembered stage stunt was to walk out on stage strumming a ukulele, and telling the audience he was going to imitate a four man Hawaiian band performing at once. Two are dancing (he swivels his hips and taps a foot), one is playing the uke, and one is whistling. Then he says, "You may wonder why I am doing this." He launches into a pointless discussion on how he gradually invested his money well, made it into a larger and larger pile, and got about $50,000.00 (in 1925 money). Then he stops and looks at the audience, and says "And if I have $50,000.00 why should I imitate four Hawaiians performing at once!" So he'd stop and walk off the stage, as the audience roared with laughter.
I wish more of that work could have been preserved.
Joe Cook is hilarious!
F Gwynplaine MacIntyre6 March 2002
In the 1930s, Joe Cook was one of the biggest stars on Broadway, headlining in several hit musical comedies. He co-starred with Ethel Merman in the Broadway show "Fine and Dandy", getting billing equal to Merman's. Joe Cook's talents were amazing: he was a juggler, an acrobat, a song-and-dance man and a comedian who did weird monologues while wiggling his thumbs. Tragically, he succumbed to Parkinson's disease after making only two feature films and a few shorts. "Rain or Shine" is the film version of one of his Broadway musical hits, with all the songs left out ... and it's the best surviving evidence of Cook's astonishing talents. "Rain or Shine" is also an excellent example of Frank Capra's early directorial skill.
In this movie, Cook plays the utility man in the Rainey Circus, which gives performances "Rain or Shine" ... except that it's always raining. When most of the circus performers can't go on, Cook becomes virtually a one-man circus, with just a couple of helpers for his acrobatic routines. Joe Cook's chief stooge in this film (and on Broadway) was Dave Chasen, a Harpo-ish comedian who later became famous as the founder of Chasen's Restaurant in Los Angeles. Chasen's schtick was a distinctive hand-waving gesture which many comedians today are still copying.
Joe Cook is brilliant in this film. In one scene, he does an astonishing juggling trick with a cigar and a kitchen match that will make you want to rewind several times so you can watch it again ... and again, and again! It looks so simple, yet Cook must have spent hundreds of hours practising this one trick.
"Rain or Shine" has a lot of broad slapstick humour, most of it hilarious. One scene at a dinner party doesn't work, involving a huge pile of spaghetti. We can clearly see that the "spaghetti" is really twine, which kills the joke. Unfunny comedian Tom Howard plays a grouch named A.K. Shrewsbury, and there's an obscure joke about what an "A.K." he is. (A.K. = "alter kocker", a Yiddish insult.)
Among the circus acts in this movie is Ethel Greer, a fat lady who weighed well over 25 stone. I was astonished by the scene in which this huge woman falls out of her circus caravan into a rain puddle. Ethel Greer actually did this stunt herself, because no stuntwoman was large enough to double for her. Kenneth Anger's book "Hollywood Babylon 2" contains a photograph of an immensely fat woman whom Anger unkindly claims is Elizabeth Taylor. She's not, you know: she's Ethel Greer, and the photo in Anger's book is a scene from "Rain or Shine". Also in this movie is a snake charmer, played by silent-film comedienne Louise Fazenda in a rare sound-film appearance. (Fazenda married producer Hal Wallis and retired.)
Some bad news: the dignified African-American actor Clarence Muse appears in this film, playing one of the "Yassah, boss" roles that Frank Capra kept lumbering him with. In Capra's autobiography, he refers to Muse as his "pet actor". No comment. SPOILER WARNING: At this film's climax, the circus tent catches fire. There's an exciting sequence as Cook and all the circus hands try to put out the flames. Ironically, the only time it STOPS raining on the circus in "Rain or Shine" is when the tent is on fire and the rain would have done some good. As soon as the fire is out, the rain starts pouring down again. "Rain or Shine" is must-see viewing! My rating: 10 out of 10, since Joe Cook's brilliant talents more than compensate for any of this film's flaws.
In this movie, Cook plays the utility man in the Rainey Circus, which gives performances "Rain or Shine" ... except that it's always raining. When most of the circus performers can't go on, Cook becomes virtually a one-man circus, with just a couple of helpers for his acrobatic routines. Joe Cook's chief stooge in this film (and on Broadway) was Dave Chasen, a Harpo-ish comedian who later became famous as the founder of Chasen's Restaurant in Los Angeles. Chasen's schtick was a distinctive hand-waving gesture which many comedians today are still copying.
Joe Cook is brilliant in this film. In one scene, he does an astonishing juggling trick with a cigar and a kitchen match that will make you want to rewind several times so you can watch it again ... and again, and again! It looks so simple, yet Cook must have spent hundreds of hours practising this one trick.
"Rain or Shine" has a lot of broad slapstick humour, most of it hilarious. One scene at a dinner party doesn't work, involving a huge pile of spaghetti. We can clearly see that the "spaghetti" is really twine, which kills the joke. Unfunny comedian Tom Howard plays a grouch named A.K. Shrewsbury, and there's an obscure joke about what an "A.K." he is. (A.K. = "alter kocker", a Yiddish insult.)
Among the circus acts in this movie is Ethel Greer, a fat lady who weighed well over 25 stone. I was astonished by the scene in which this huge woman falls out of her circus caravan into a rain puddle. Ethel Greer actually did this stunt herself, because no stuntwoman was large enough to double for her. Kenneth Anger's book "Hollywood Babylon 2" contains a photograph of an immensely fat woman whom Anger unkindly claims is Elizabeth Taylor. She's not, you know: she's Ethel Greer, and the photo in Anger's book is a scene from "Rain or Shine". Also in this movie is a snake charmer, played by silent-film comedienne Louise Fazenda in a rare sound-film appearance. (Fazenda married producer Hal Wallis and retired.)
Some bad news: the dignified African-American actor Clarence Muse appears in this film, playing one of the "Yassah, boss" roles that Frank Capra kept lumbering him with. In Capra's autobiography, he refers to Muse as his "pet actor". No comment. SPOILER WARNING: At this film's climax, the circus tent catches fire. There's an exciting sequence as Cook and all the circus hands try to put out the flames. Ironically, the only time it STOPS raining on the circus in "Rain or Shine" is when the tent is on fire and the rain would have done some good. As soon as the fire is out, the rain starts pouring down again. "Rain or Shine" is must-see viewing! My rating: 10 out of 10, since Joe Cook's brilliant talents more than compensate for any of this film's flaws.
Lesser Capra
Michael_Elliott23 May 2009
Rain or Shine (1930)
** (out of 4)
Mary Rainey (Joan Peers) takes over her father's circus after his death but soon finds herself in major financial trouble. The manager, Smiley Johnson (Joe Cook), always has a positive spin on everything but soon not even his fast talking can help the situation. Opinions on this film seem to be extremely mixed and I'm going to have to fall on the negative side. It's rather hard and perhaps unfair for my to criticize the film for the reasons I'm going to but here goes. I found Cook to be an incredible talent here and he gives an amazing performance. At the same time I'd say his performance was too amazing because he plays an annoying character and that's exactly how it struck me. The frustration the owner in the film has over his attitude and actions is the same frustration I started to feel and this really started to take away from the film for me. The first thirty-minutes kept me entertained but then I finally hit a wall to where I was wanting to hit certain characters. Again, it's somewhat unfair for me to bash Cook for giving a great performance but I couldn't help but to have his character on my nerves. The supporting performances are rather good as well and that includes Tom Howard as a dimwitted fool who can't keep anything straight. In perhaps the funniest and most unbelievable sequence, Ethel Greer, a real life "Fat Woman", falls out of a trailer and gets stuck in the mud. The men can't pick her up due to her large weight so they have to get an elephant to do the job. This scene is certainly outrageous and in some ways so shocking that I couldn't help but laugh my behind off. The ending picks up a lot of steam but by that point I was pretty much wore out and ready to move on.
** (out of 4)
Mary Rainey (Joan Peers) takes over her father's circus after his death but soon finds herself in major financial trouble. The manager, Smiley Johnson (Joe Cook), always has a positive spin on everything but soon not even his fast talking can help the situation. Opinions on this film seem to be extremely mixed and I'm going to have to fall on the negative side. It's rather hard and perhaps unfair for my to criticize the film for the reasons I'm going to but here goes. I found Cook to be an incredible talent here and he gives an amazing performance. At the same time I'd say his performance was too amazing because he plays an annoying character and that's exactly how it struck me. The frustration the owner in the film has over his attitude and actions is the same frustration I started to feel and this really started to take away from the film for me. The first thirty-minutes kept me entertained but then I finally hit a wall to where I was wanting to hit certain characters. Again, it's somewhat unfair for me to bash Cook for giving a great performance but I couldn't help but to have his character on my nerves. The supporting performances are rather good as well and that includes Tom Howard as a dimwitted fool who can't keep anything straight. In perhaps the funniest and most unbelievable sequence, Ethel Greer, a real life "Fat Woman", falls out of a trailer and gets stuck in the mud. The men can't pick her up due to her large weight so they have to get an elephant to do the job. This scene is certainly outrageous and in some ways so shocking that I couldn't help but laugh my behind off. The ending picks up a lot of steam but by that point I was pretty much wore out and ready to move on.
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