The reason I tuned in to the show was because I thought they were going to bring Charlie back for one episode but instead Charlie was being played by Kathy Bates. Disrespecting Charlie saying he is in hell why because of his drinking, drug taking or his dating habits? Or because he put a roof over Alan and Jake's head. Come on its 2012 and a little side note to the writers "Start coming up with some good jokes.I think they should either make season 9 a dream, bring Charlie back or cancel the show. Oh and Kelso didn't put out one joke. Oh wait I mean Walden. Just shows you how ego and petty feelings get in the way of something great (Lorre and Sheen conflict). I think they should kiss, make up and start making the great TV show that I used to watch