The artifice in this episode is beyond comprehension. Starting with the host and the guest, both accused of bullying of staff, and fans who are critical of them; here is an exercise in presence: claiming to the activists.
This episode draws to home the fact that much of Hollywood is about virtue signaling and word salads. Activists? Or agenda-setters? For both participants, while it is encouraging to hear their beliefs in certain causes, it's disgraceful to see that their actions don't match.
For example, days ago, it was revealed that Meghan worked only 52 hours for charity in 2022; and that most of the donations they made were to charities that give them PR and awards. Eg. $125,000 to NAACP. It's all self serving drivel at the end of the day.