It was a wonderful experience to work closely with Jules Engel, who had been a designer on Disney's Fantasia and was one of the founders of the UPA Studio. We were constantly having bizarre problems with the Cubicomp, the first image generating computer at Cal Arts. Every time it made a strange mistake we did not anticipate, Jules would say "Honey! Let's follow that!" Then we would use the mistake for a new path of experimentation.