The Fugitive (TV Series)
The Judgment: Part I (1967)
Bill Raisch: Fred Johnson, Fred Carson
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Quotes
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Arthur 'Art' Howe : They don't want you to come back.
Fred Johnson : What do you mean?
Arthur 'Art' Howe : I mean there's another thousand for you if you jump bail. My client's instructions.
Fred Johnson : A thousand bucks? Gimme it!
Arthur 'Art' Howe : Not yet. I said, I want to know why someone thinks you're that important.
Fred Johnson : Who cares? Gimme the money!
Arthur 'Art' Howe : Gimme the money! Gimme gimme gimme! You sound like a greedy child.
Fred Johnson : I need the money.
Arthur 'Art' Howe : Of course you do. But wouldn't you rather have more? Say, 50,000? Who knows how high the pot may run!
Fred Johnson : What are you talking about?
Arthur 'Art' Howe : Fred, I've got a name, and you've got the reason why he hired me.
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[Lt. Gerard enters a police interrogation room. Fred Johnson is seated at the table. Capt. Lee is in the room as an observer. Gerard sits down at the table opposite Johnson]
Lt. Philip Gerard : You know who I am, don't you?
[pause]
Lt. Philip Gerard : I think you do.
Fred Johnson : You're a cop.
Lt. Philip Gerard : That's right, from Indiana. Stafford, in fact. You know that town, Johnson?
Fred Johnson : That's not my name.
Lt. Philip Gerard : It'll do for now.
[pause]
Lt. Philip Gerard : Have you ever been to Stafford? Just a few minutes ago we had a call from a man who claims he saw you there a few years back.
[pause]
Lt. Philip Gerard : His name is Richard Kimble.
Fred Johnson : [quickly] I ain't ever been to any Stafford!
Lt. Philip Gerard : You ever hear of Richard Kimble?
[Johnson nods]
Lt. Philip Gerard : I thought you might have. He's been after you for quite some time now.
Fred Johnson : He's got something wrong in the head.
Lt. Philip Gerard : Claims you killed his wife.
Fred Johnson : He's lying.
Lt. Philip Gerard : Take it easy, Johonson, we're on your side. Now I think he invented that story... then saw you one day, and finished up believing his own lie.
Fred Johnson : Then get him off my back!
Lt. Philip Gerard : We will. And when we do, I want you to throw that lie in his face.
Fred Johnson : What do you want from me?
Lt. Philip Gerard : Just tell us where you were that night.
Fred Johnson : What night?
Lt. Philip Gerard : September 19th, 1961, the night Helen Kimble was murdered.
Fred Johnson : [thinking out loud] September '61, September... oh, yeah, Texas.
Lt. Philip Gerard : Whereabouts in Texas?
Fred Johnson : El Paso, I was there all year.
Lt. Philip Gerard : And you didn't leave El Paso the whole of 1961.
Fred Johnson : That's right.
Lt. Philip Gerard : And you've never been to Stafford.
Fred Johnson : No.
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Lt. Philip Gerard : [Lt. Gerard is interrogating Fred Johnson. Capt. Lee observes from a corner] You ever been to Indiana?
Fred Johnson : Oh, I mighta been through there, hoppin' freights and all...
Lt. Philip Gerard : Do you know a man called Gus Evans?
Fred Johnson : [Johnson's manner suddenly gets harder] No.
Lt. Philip Gerard : That's odd. FBI says your fingerprints match his.
Fred Johnson : They're wrong.
Lt. Philip Gerard : Using the name Gus Evans, you took a job as a night watchman for an electronics firm. They were dong government work, so your fingerprints were taken for clearance purposes.
[pause]
Lt. Philip Gerard : Any of this coming back to you?
Fred Johnson : I don't know... maybe...
Lt. Philip Gerard : On September 5th, 1961, just two weeks before Helen Kimble was murdered, you were fired for drinking on the job!
Fred Johnson : So what?
Lt. Philip Gerard : So that plant was located in Indianapolis... only 75 miles from Stafford!
Fred Johnson : I told you I'd been through there!
Lt. Philip Gerard : You told me you didn't leave El Paso all year.
Fred Johnson : I got confused.
Lt. Philip Gerard : You're lying.
Fred Johnson : No... just forgot, that's all.
Lt. Philip Gerard : [hotly] Did you forget about Stafford, too?
Fred Johnson : You got me all mixed up!
Lt. Philip Gerard : [ironically] Tell the truth, Johnson... then you won't get mixed up.
Fred Johnson : I don't have to talk to you.
Lt. Philip Gerard : Did you kill Helen Kimble?
Fred Johnson : I wanna see a lawyer.
Lt. Philip Gerard : Why did you lie?
Fred Johnson : I don't have to answer any more questions.
Lt. Philip Gerard : [grabs Johnson by the shirt, then savagely] Did you kill Helen Kimble?
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Lt. Philip Gerard : Did you kill Helen Kimble?
Fred Johnson : I wanna see a lawyer.
Lt. Philip Gerard : Why did you lie?
Fred Johnson : I don't have to answer any more questions.
Lt. Philip Gerard : [grabs Johnson by the shirt, then savagely] Did you kill Helen Kimble?
Capt. Ralph Lee : [restraining Gerard] Phil!
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Fred Johnson : Kimble! he's been buggin' me for years, says I killed his wife.
Arthur 'Art' Howe : [looks at him] Well, did you?
Fred Johnson : [pause, then] No... but I was there and saw who did.
Arthur 'Art' Howe : But you never said anything?
Fred Johnson : Wasn't supposed to be in that house, pal. No skin off my nose if the doctor burned.
Arthur 'Art' Howe : [with admiration] You dirty dog.