Talmadge stars as a young woman who reads romance novels and thinks her marriage dull. Film starts with a fake "castaways" scene as the hero sacrifices himself so the married couple can have enough food and water. Talmadge compares this tripe to her dull husband (Harrison Ford) and moons over the romance author who is believed to be dead in the jungle. Of course that was a publicity hoax, so Talmadge decides to get a quickie divorce and marry the author (Kenneth Harlan). The sap husband decides that if the wife want a "primitive lover," then he'll show her. He kidnaps the couple in Reno and takes them into the mountain wilderness where he shows up the preening author as a phony. Of course Ford has a local Indian helping him hunt and make fires and such. Sort of an early Romancing the Stone, The Primitive Lover is fun and shows why Talmadge was a superstar of her time. Ford also comes off well as the loving husband. Joe Roberts is funny as the big trail boss who uses Talmadge's pancakes as a bullet-proof vest, and Snitz Edwards is in the courtroom scene as the husband. Good fun with nice organ score.
7 Reviews
Minor, Disappointing, Domestic "Comedy"
JohnHowardReid10 April 2010
A big disappointment for me, Sidney Franklin's Constance Talmadge vehicle, "The Primitive Lover" (1922), is not a silent I'd recommend. The movie starts with what is obviously a trick scene enabling Constance and her companions to outrageously over-act for all they're worth. Unfortunately, when the movie proper starts, someone forgot to tell Constance. She continues to chew the scenery vigorously and her stagy demeanor spreads to her co-star Harrison Ford. Actually, as Talmadge herself was producing this tightly budgeted movie version of a minor Edgar Selwyn stage play that Broadway turned down, she didn't have to take any notice of direction. She obviously wanted to ham away in her close-ups – and her fans no doubt delightedly lapped up all her over-the-top highjinks. I didn't.
Really fun silent movie
overseer-35 July 2003
This silent movie should be a cult classic. It is loads of fun to watch, and has a message that is strangely topical even today, since so many young women watch soaps and read cheap romance novels, and hence have unrealistic expectations of what love and romance and marriage should be like. Harrison Ford becomes adorable (once he wakes up to what he is about to lose) and Constance Talmadge is a doll. One can easily see why she was so popular in the 20's. Too bad so few of her films survive.
The Primitive Lover has lots of humorous touches (and title cards). You'll enjoy it if you're in the mood for something light and fun (but you probably won't like it if you are a hardcore feminist). Lol.
The Primitive Lover has lots of humorous touches (and title cards). You'll enjoy it if you're in the mood for something light and fun (but you probably won't like it if you are a hardcore feminist). Lol.
A very fun romantic comedy from the silent era
AlsExGal21 November 2009
I have been curious about the films of Constance and Norma Talmadge for a long time, but it is very hard to find any of their films that have not been lost, much less that have been put on DVD. Constance was the comic actress of the two sisters, and this is a very fun romp of a film that holds up very well today some 87 years after it was made. The initial scene on a raft, full of over the top acting and clichés, is just Constance's character finishing her former fiancé's novel. She has married another man when her author-fiancé is presumed dead, and she is finding life with her husband dull compared to the life she has imagined she would have had if her favorite novelist had survived. However, it turns out the death of her "primitive lover" was just a publicity stunt, and he unexpectedly reappears and turns Constance's life upside down. Her husband decides the best thing to do is step aside until he realizes that maybe his wife needs to realize that her former fiancé is not the definitive hero and outdoorsman after all, and sets out to show it to her. The quality of the current DVD print is quite clear, and I highly recommend the film.
If you are familiar with Buster Keaton's silent films, one face you will likely recognize is that of Big Joe Roberts, who plays a cowboy lost in a storm who runs across Constance's cabin in the wilderness and demands a meal. He is involved in one of the funniest scenes in the film as Constance's character is an unexperienced cook, to put it kindly. As a result, Big Joe is faced with a dinner consisting of coffee of molasses-like consistency and pancakes that he finds so inedible and even indestructible that he later finds a possible use for them as a bullet-proof vest.
If you want to introduce someone to silent film, this is the place to start.
If you are familiar with Buster Keaton's silent films, one face you will likely recognize is that of Big Joe Roberts, who plays a cowboy lost in a storm who runs across Constance's cabin in the wilderness and demands a meal. He is involved in one of the funniest scenes in the film as Constance's character is an unexperienced cook, to put it kindly. As a result, Big Joe is faced with a dinner consisting of coffee of molasses-like consistency and pancakes that he finds so inedible and even indestructible that he later finds a possible use for them as a bullet-proof vest.
If you want to introduce someone to silent film, this is the place to start.
Constance is All Sweetness and Light!!
kidboots7 October 2014
Warning: Spoilers
Constance Talmadge was almost too good in her first important part - the Mountain girl in "Intolerance". Since most of the roles in the Babylon story were stiffly historical she emerged as the most engaging and lovable character in the film. She had plenty of pep and personality and was able to capitalize on her talent by signing with First National in the early 1920s and staying until the end of the silent.
Steeped in the romantic fantasies and daydreams she reads about in trashy novels, Phyllis bitterly regrets her marriage to stodgy Hector (Harrison Ford) and yearns for the excitement of her earlier engagement to romantic novelist Donald Wales (Kenneth Harlan) who unfortunately died soon after the publication of "The Divine Sacrifice". Hector's idea of excitement is an evening spent at his in-laws where it takes him 3 hours to explain the intricacies of his latest invention. Ford is just hilarious as the dithering, obtuse husband and plays it up for all he's worth - especially in the opening fantasy sequence where the three of them are lost at sea - but there is only enough food for two of them to survive!! It gives the three actors a chance to ham it up with lots of gesticulating!!!
Of course, don't you know, Donald hasn't really died and comes back eager to begin where he left off - making love to Phyllis!! - and the worst of it is that he confesses it was all a publicity stunt and that Hector knew about it all along!! Hector had hoped to win her love but he readily steps aside - a bit too readily for the miffed Phyllis!!
With Phyllis now engaged to the self centred Donald, Hector turns to Donald's own book "The Primitive Lover" and the much married Chief Bluebottle for inspiration. Is Phyllis worth the trouble?? While married to Hector she seemed pretty petulant, with lots of foot stamping, but now she is holed up in a mountain cabin with her "ideal" Donald who leaves her grappling with a zealous farmer while he escapes, Hector is proving that he is the original "primitive lover". Donald obviously hasn't read his own book!!
Constance is all cuteness and light but how can she tell her two battling beaus apart - Ford and Harlan have very similar looks and physiques. A fun film for a rainy afternoon.
Steeped in the romantic fantasies and daydreams she reads about in trashy novels, Phyllis bitterly regrets her marriage to stodgy Hector (Harrison Ford) and yearns for the excitement of her earlier engagement to romantic novelist Donald Wales (Kenneth Harlan) who unfortunately died soon after the publication of "The Divine Sacrifice". Hector's idea of excitement is an evening spent at his in-laws where it takes him 3 hours to explain the intricacies of his latest invention. Ford is just hilarious as the dithering, obtuse husband and plays it up for all he's worth - especially in the opening fantasy sequence where the three of them are lost at sea - but there is only enough food for two of them to survive!! It gives the three actors a chance to ham it up with lots of gesticulating!!!
Of course, don't you know, Donald hasn't really died and comes back eager to begin where he left off - making love to Phyllis!! - and the worst of it is that he confesses it was all a publicity stunt and that Hector knew about it all along!! Hector had hoped to win her love but he readily steps aside - a bit too readily for the miffed Phyllis!!
With Phyllis now engaged to the self centred Donald, Hector turns to Donald's own book "The Primitive Lover" and the much married Chief Bluebottle for inspiration. Is Phyllis worth the trouble?? While married to Hector she seemed pretty petulant, with lots of foot stamping, but now she is holed up in a mountain cabin with her "ideal" Donald who leaves her grappling with a zealous farmer while he escapes, Hector is proving that he is the original "primitive lover". Donald obviously hasn't read his own book!!
Constance is all cuteness and light but how can she tell her two battling beaus apart - Ford and Harlan have very similar looks and physiques. A fun film for a rainy afternoon.
Constance Talmadge Comedy of Manners Film
springfieldrental8 November 2021
If you ask any normal movie fan today who the Talmadge sisters were, the answer would more likely be they were a musical vocal trio rather than the hugely popular 1920's silent film stars that they were. Back then, scores of theater goers lined up to see one of Norma, Natalie or Constance Talmadge movies. The oldest, Norma, and the youngest, Constance were especially two of the most famous actresses in cinema in the late 1910's and early 1920's. The sisters were among a handful of top movie performers invited to be the first to create impressions of their feet and handprints in wet cement in front of Grauman's Chinese Theater.
Constance aimed for scripts that were comedy of manners. No finer example of her work was May 1922's "The Primitive Lover." The Frances Marian scenario about an unhappy wife, Constance, whose fantasizes on her lost and presumed dead novelist boyfriend and his romantic themes, is surprised when he suddenly returns. Her husband, Harrison Ford, decides to show what a phony in the bravado category the writer really is.
Constance is recognizable for her early role in D. W. Griffith's 1916 'Intolerance' as the Mountain Girl in the famous Babylon segment. She appeared in over 80 films, with many scripted by her talented friend Anita Loos, who contoured her screenplays to the actress' favorite type of films. "I want comedies of manners, comedies that are funny because they delight one's sense of what is ridiculously human in the way of little everyday commonplace foibles and frailties," Constance admitted.
Constance aimed for scripts that were comedy of manners. No finer example of her work was May 1922's "The Primitive Lover." The Frances Marian scenario about an unhappy wife, Constance, whose fantasizes on her lost and presumed dead novelist boyfriend and his romantic themes, is surprised when he suddenly returns. Her husband, Harrison Ford, decides to show what a phony in the bravado category the writer really is.
Constance is recognizable for her early role in D. W. Griffith's 1916 'Intolerance' as the Mountain Girl in the famous Babylon segment. She appeared in over 80 films, with many scripted by her talented friend Anita Loos, who contoured her screenplays to the actress' favorite type of films. "I want comedies of manners, comedies that are funny because they delight one's sense of what is ridiculously human in the way of little everyday commonplace foibles and frailties," Constance admitted.
Well-made, engaging, and mostly satisfying
I_Ailurophile3 August 2021
It's a marvel to turn back time and watch silent films. For lack of sound or any verbal expression, actors overemphasize their actions and body language, and even makeup seems geared toward more distinguishably exhibiting facial expressions. A moment of drama can simultaneously carry an inherent measure of comedy owing to exaggerated performances.
Even with these limitations and peculiarities, silent pictures can be just as enthralling as modern talkies, and 'The primitive lover' is quite entertaining - with caveats.
Key plot points are cemented in periodic title cards, especially dialogue. The central conflict of the narrative comes to light rather quickly, allowing for the cast to thrive in realizing characters' emotions and interactions, and for great drama to unfold. Star Constance Talmadge is particularly marvelous as Phyllis, a woman dreaming of romance and torn atwain by circumstances. Talmadge above all, in every nuance of expression, very capably embodies the protagonist's spectrum of emotions, and it's a joy to watch her practice her craft. This isn't to count out any of her co-stars, though - it takes a certain je ne sais quoi to believably inhabit a character with visuals alone, and everyone here excels.
Even in grainy black and white, the set decoration is swell, and the costume design fetching. From writing and direction to general production design, the film-makers arrange some great scenes, and capture some fine shots on camera. Then, too, director Sidney Franklin has guided his cast into some grand performances. While true broadly of silent films, every moment is carefully calculated to impart humor, tension, romance, or any mood that's called for - with only what we can see. The unquestionable skills behind film production so long ago, despite or even because of the technical constraints, are deeply commendable.
I did say there were some caveats. It's a bit cliché to say something is "a product of its time," because there's never an excuse for some things - attitudes that are outdated in 2021 were equally antiquated 100 years ago. 'The primitive lover' includes some garrulous instances of racism, sexism, and stereotypes. There's a strong theme of manipulation that makes the whole plot a distasteful flavor. Women are described like pets, with motivations obviously beyond all understanding. Even protagonist Phyllis is portrayed as flaky, fickle, and flighty - petulant, with her head in the clouds, and possessing no meaningful agency. Yes, this was made in 1922. That doesn't mean it gets a free pass.
Still, recognizing the blemishes of the writing, the movie is highly enjoyable all the same. The narrative is solid, if slightly dubious, the acting is on point, and the technical considerations are noteworthy. This is entertainment with an asterisk, owing to the depiction of some anachronous notions, but even bearing that in mind, 'The primitive lover' is worth checking out for anyone open to the wealth of cinema of the silent era.
Even with these limitations and peculiarities, silent pictures can be just as enthralling as modern talkies, and 'The primitive lover' is quite entertaining - with caveats.
Key plot points are cemented in periodic title cards, especially dialogue. The central conflict of the narrative comes to light rather quickly, allowing for the cast to thrive in realizing characters' emotions and interactions, and for great drama to unfold. Star Constance Talmadge is particularly marvelous as Phyllis, a woman dreaming of romance and torn atwain by circumstances. Talmadge above all, in every nuance of expression, very capably embodies the protagonist's spectrum of emotions, and it's a joy to watch her practice her craft. This isn't to count out any of her co-stars, though - it takes a certain je ne sais quoi to believably inhabit a character with visuals alone, and everyone here excels.
Even in grainy black and white, the set decoration is swell, and the costume design fetching. From writing and direction to general production design, the film-makers arrange some great scenes, and capture some fine shots on camera. Then, too, director Sidney Franklin has guided his cast into some grand performances. While true broadly of silent films, every moment is carefully calculated to impart humor, tension, romance, or any mood that's called for - with only what we can see. The unquestionable skills behind film production so long ago, despite or even because of the technical constraints, are deeply commendable.
I did say there were some caveats. It's a bit cliché to say something is "a product of its time," because there's never an excuse for some things - attitudes that are outdated in 2021 were equally antiquated 100 years ago. 'The primitive lover' includes some garrulous instances of racism, sexism, and stereotypes. There's a strong theme of manipulation that makes the whole plot a distasteful flavor. Women are described like pets, with motivations obviously beyond all understanding. Even protagonist Phyllis is portrayed as flaky, fickle, and flighty - petulant, with her head in the clouds, and possessing no meaningful agency. Yes, this was made in 1922. That doesn't mean it gets a free pass.
Still, recognizing the blemishes of the writing, the movie is highly enjoyable all the same. The narrative is solid, if slightly dubious, the acting is on point, and the technical considerations are noteworthy. This is entertainment with an asterisk, owing to the depiction of some anachronous notions, but even bearing that in mind, 'The primitive lover' is worth checking out for anyone open to the wealth of cinema of the silent era.
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