[on performing revitalized aboriginal music] Women didn't drum, although we were the keepers of the drum. And so some of the old people don't like that. But times change, things evolve, and in the modern world there are a number of women's drum groups. I'm talking about hand drums, not the big powwow drums, although I've heard of a couple of them floating around out there in Indian country too. It's a kind of contemporized traditional music.