Star Trek: Discovery (TV Series) The Red Angel (2019) User Reviews

Star Trek therapy session

[Kevin-42 · 22 March 2019]

Apart from the glaringly obvious plot hole of discussing the capture of a future version of someone with the present day version of that person (Unless they suffer from massive amnesia , the future version would know that they're trying a capture attempt) it is the way this episodes handles the psychological side of the story which completely ruins it.

Basically, Michael is unstable and highly conflicted, prone to violent outbursts and incapable of making logical decisions expected of a command level officer. By ANY metric she has to be relieved from duty immediately. Maybe people in the future handle things differently but the constant level of insubordination by various members of the crew, breach of the chain of command and disregard for what people today would consider proper debriefing and psychological post-combat evaluation is incredible. This is not a Star Trek ship. This is a teenager angst seminar.

I thought they were on the right track with the last three episodes but this episode was like everything that is wrong with Discovery in distilled form.

The Red Angel

[giongalini · 6/10 · 22 March 2019]

You know, when we all came up with theories about who the Red Angel really was, I was actually considering the idea of it being Michael's real mother.

But I always dismissed it because I thought that making another mother-figure character for Michael would be just too much - there would be Amanda, Michael's adoptive mother who raised her, there would be Phillipa, who loved and was proud of Michael as if she was her own daughter, and now Michael's real mother is here too.

I don't know... I thought making Michael's real mother the Red Angel would be almost as cheesy as making it Michael herself.

To be perfectly honest Im kinda disappointed with how things are turning out as of now. As much as I love the character of Michael and Sonequa Martin-Green, there is just too much of her - she caused the Klingon war, then she ended it and now the future of the Galaxy is all about her again.

Seriously though, by this point the show probably should be renamed into Star Trek: Michael Burnham. It's not about the ship or it's crew, it's all about Michael and her life and her family. And once again, as much as I like and appreciate this character, this is just going too far for my liking.

I've always supported this show, I really don't want to write a negative review by the time it ends. There's still four episodes to go. We'll see how it goes now.

Who writes stuff like this?

[mrksdiehl · 1/10 · 28 March 2019]

It starts of with a five minute funeral about a character who nobody ever cared for. The rest of the episode is Burnham crying and/or having boring emotional dialogues nobody cares about. It's so melodramatic, it's already cringy. Other reviews point already to the stupid plot with it's wholes. I really have to wonder, who gets payed to write trash like that?

Unbelievable, but season 1 was actually better.

[doappel · 5/10 · 22 March 2019]

Somehow they managed to combine all the usual recent disappointments in this episode.

* The events make little to no sense.

* The emotional story elements are too long and frequent but also of too shallow quality. Remarkable achievement, such a combination.

Generally: Besides Saru no character of the first season managed to improve. The season's plot isn't better either. It's pretty rare that a second season falls behind the premiere season.

Plot holes and stupidity galore!

[MartyisGreat · 4/10 · 27 March 2019]

• So stupid, Burnham is rationally informed that your parents died in the line of duty by their own choice. The risk of their mission was underestimated and they got killed. What does she do? Brutally punches the military captain of a vessel in the face who ZERO consequences!! So in the future, violent outbursts are perfectly A-OK!!
• Science must be really bad in the future when doctors say the DNA is a 100% match to Burnham and it turns out to be her mother?! Parents and children don't have identical DNA.
• If Burnham was the variance and angel shows up whenever she's dying, how come angel came to save Saru's homeworld or the other random reasons? THIS SHOW MAKES NO SENSE.
• The plan was the deprive Burnham of oxygen, why is her skin being cooked alive? was torture part of the plan as well?
• Red Angel shows up AFTER burnham dies? I thought time travel lets you time travel to any time you want? And her suit just vaporizes?
• What's with Burnham kissing the Klingon again? I thought they were over each other? Also, who the hell sexually kisses someone on the lips while crying?
• More emotional drama and tears than a soap opera.

Good riddance.

Pointless episode

[bjorneenhoorn · 3/10 · 22 March 2019]

This episode is probably the worst of the season. Nothing really happens and its all so predictable. They could have shown the last 5 minutes and you wouldn't have missed anything.

Painfully boring

[johnnyan · 24 March 2019]

At this moment I don't really care anymore, just finish it already.

This season had some good Star Trek moments that gave us hope but now we are back at over acting useless scenes and bombastic "magic science"...

Do these writers understand.....

[primeadministrator · 1/10 · 23 March 2019]

....the concept of continuity?

Not only is there a time-traveling suit that should not exist in the post-ENT/pre-STD timeline, but it is Burnam's MOTHER who invented it? REALLY? And worse yet, the Klingorcs were working on their own version of it? C'MON KURTZMAN! You people aren't even trying at this point. It was awful. I mean, it isn't even coherent within Star Trek Discovery, let alone the rest of Star Trek in general. 1-star, because you can't even keep your own storyline of Star Trek coherent. Ridiculous. I've read fanfictions better written than this.

So painful predictable it hurts.

[glenbording · 2/10 · 25 March 2019]

Not only is the writing on the lore part really bad, like they never have seen Star Trek before. But the new things are so predictable and boring that it does nothing to lift the rest of the show up, in fact it hurts it even more. It's sad to see something as great as Star Trek fall so low, right now I don't know what the fans sees in the show, it mostly seems like people are trolling with the 10/10 reviews as this is not a true score at all, meaning all the rest have to lower the score to equal it out.

I generally now think they should never have made this show, as it has hurt the IP more than anything else.

Expected failure

[bonewisher · 2/10 · 26 March 2019]

CGI effects somewhat accepted compared with other work done today, but that's all there is. Bad acting, lousy story and worst of all producers that allow this to continue.

Star Trek? Bah, humbug!

A step backwards

[kastrino · 5/10 · 23 March 2019]

Although I was appalled by most episodes of the first season, I admit Season 2 was a major improvement. This episode feels like it came from unused material from Season 1. No focus in the story, lots of overacting by Sonequa, endless time travel mumbo jumbo and a largely disappointing finale.

I See Dead People

[dameterpeter · 4/10 · 22 March 2019]

How do you capture a being from the future? And more important: how do we bend space, time and cover logic and dramatic holes? Who knows, nobody cares.

In this episode we discover at the end, who the red angel is. You are in for a surprise, but somehow it isn't, is it. So the red angel is trying to save the universe in a really weird way, and the cast really wants to know (or at least a clue) what that cataclysmic event could be, and also prevent it. So Star Fleet comes up with a plan to capture the red angel, to get answers, like what could that threat be, as we are already at episode 10, so at this rate i guess: season 3? Despite i think it is impossible to capture your future self (Michael) by doing it by yourself (also Michael), it happens to be not Michael but Captain Philippa Georgiou, her dead friend and mentor, but still dead, Or not.

But as we learned few episodes before, nothing really stays dead in ST:D. ST:D really does like bringing back people from the beyond for no good but melodramatic reason. And so early in a tv-series Accusing you earlier becoming Dallas of SciFi, Pine would say: Hit it!

Mom? Yep, Go back to your mom and grow up STD!

[AliensReservoir · 1/10 · 24 March 2019]

And she was surprised... I knew it, every one around me knew it! So predictable, I mean seriously someone from the future who protect you, who can he/she be? some one who care about you! and who care about you most than he/r life?

Plus the fact that the red angel is from the future, she knew it was for a capture which make this episode look stupid in the way it is written.

Terrible episode!

[rshahzad17 · 1/10 · 25 March 2019]

Do they really think audience of this time and age are stupid, a quick advice to the writers and producers, please grow up, this is not 70s anymore!!!

Loved Season 1 But Season 2 + This Episode Was a Letdown

[hp-jel · 5/10 · 22 March 2019]

I thought this episode was flawed because if they wanted to capture the future version of Burnham, the future version would know the plan. Up to now I was hoping the season buildup to this would be good but I was disappointed. Still a good show though. And I agree, I'm tired of the cry baby Vulcan. Nothing about her is Vulcan. They should have written her with human upbringing and disconnected her from Spock and the Vulcan. If she wants to cry all the time, put her in a different show.

Please go one

[Hassel512 · 1/10 · 24 March 2019]

Yes, please go on, you are going to break some kind of record: the most hated and most bad show actually on TV. I will not even be able to unsee the bad actors! Going to rewatch The Orville right away tocalm down!

The Red Angel

[Prismark10 · 5/10 · 17 July 2019]

The Red Angel. Finally we are getting answers in a complicated and conflicting way.

The DNA of the Red Angel is a match with Michael. The Star Fleet team including Section 31 wants to spring a trap to capture the future Michael.

However Michael finds out from Leland that her parents were working on time travel experiments that led to their deaths. The mention of a time crystal made the episode go all Marvel. Of course mention dead parents and before long Star Trek Discovery will have more characters that never stay dead.

I think it came as no surprise to me with the reveal of the Red Angel. However it conflicts with the narrative of what came before.

It was all a bit silly with all the little character moments as Michael cooks up a deadly plan to trap the Red Angel. So she has a heart to heart with Spock and then Ash.

Preceding all this was a memorial for Airiam. Gosh we barely knew you.

Weakest episode so far. Lazy writing.

[imdb-4288 · 3/10 · 20 April 2019]

Yes. Time travel is complicated. You know it's not complicated? Lazy writing. This episode made me roll my eyes more than all previous episodes combined. ... That's a lot of rolling.

Shoot me!

[Hassel512 · 1/10 · 23 March 2019]

For watching this cheesy soap opera. The directors, writers and producers who spent their time and money to to this BS should be punished! It is an endless worship to women and gays! Why don't you just make a drama and don't try to sell it as a syfy show! What about PC, can not see it here! Or does PC not include men?

A gatekeeper's honest review

[neville-papperman · 24 March 2019]

-Well ,i see many people are calling us,the gatekeepers like me,Nerdrotic and Doomcock,haters,so i have some things to say about wht we don't like this show.First of all,they promised us a sequel un the original timeline,and they gave us just a prequel,even they know we don't like prequels and reebots,and this show is actually just a remake,so they lied to us from the first place.Neville Paige and Glenn Hetrick the new alien's creators are too weak to can recreate the aliens made by the genious Michael Westmore,Gersha Philips' costumes are more suitable for a circus fashion show from Paris,she has no clue about what the fans want to see ,or she doesn't care,because her style is loking like a chessy space adventures collection from the 80'...hello..we had nuBSG SAAB and B5...you should google it ma'am,if you want to understand us and our evolution,the writers are obsesed by their main character and about their gay couple and they not really care about those stars from out there,and even they are saying they are fans,their work doesn't have any kind of relation with the other trek shows,Thimothy Peel choosed to make his own style of lcars,even he clearly knows how to make a Star Trek lcars,but it seems his style is more important to him than the old fans preferences.Another important thing,we really don't understand why they like to mess with the canon all the time,even if they can make stories which don't affect the continuity very easely,they can choose a post Voyager timeline,or a alternate reality (for example they can use our reality,without the Eugenic wars and WW3),and if they used a ship which can travel instantly anywhere in the universe,why they don't choose to have as antagonists the Iconians,the Kelvans or another aliens from another galaxy,instead trashing and badly recreating the same old races.Another weird thing is the fact they use too many unlikeable characters,like Lorca,mirror Georgiou,Burnham,Tilly,Stamets,Culber,the story is too simple,they only folow one character,Burnham,even they claim they like DS-9,which had @ 10 main characters,even they are not mentioned as the main characters..i could go on and on about this...so stop calling us haters,we like modernity ,we like new things ,but this series is more of a downgrade for Star Trek,not an evolution,for example, after you will watch this episode ,you should try to watch an episode from the first season of Enterprise and you will be amazed about the image quality of Enterprise without the lens flares and how cool are their uniforms and their characters ,just try to do this you will see the truth,we only only want to see real good series being made ,that is all.

This is just stupid

[davek28 · 4/10 · 21 April 2019]

If it's Michael from the future then her future self would know that this is a con and Michael would be saved at the last second. In addition, she'd be dead far sooner than they calculate. Also, it's a stupid idea which no-one in their right mind would carry out. It's also unnecessarily melodramatic. And suddenly they have all the tech necessary to trap a time traveller? Lose one star.

On the plus side, the actress who plays young Michael is superb.

hilariously stupid

[Rob-O-Cop · 3/10 · 10 May 2019]

This episode was like a low level Los Angeles acting school Thursday afternoon exercise class in acting out ridiculous scenarios and staying in character, and on that level the cast did pretty well, but this episode was just plain stupid through and through, much like the series, only matched by my own stupidity in watching it week after week and expecting it to be different. no one's a winner here.

Was her name foreshadowing - "burn ham" - all along?

[shadowmailboxer · 5/10 · 11 April 2019]

I rooted for Burnham to die so that Star Trek may live. Torture wouldn't have been necessary but the writers can't pass by a ridiculous and unnecessary opportuity for melodrama. Screaming in agony and bubbling face are imperative for time-travel-momma-bear/mom #1 to hear her.

Moms #2-4: Spock's mom, good and, for some reason, bad Georgiou. Btw: For what reason exactly did that section 31 captain take the blame and punches for??

I do like my entertainment logical, but if it's time-travel, that's impossible anyway, so that part of the brain can/has to stay disengaged. What is left in story-telling without causality/established rules...? People and emotion-salad. If I would care about the characters, that might work.

I never watched anything that made me go "öarghh" so often. 5% ok epsiodes is just not enough for me.

Star Trek is about discovery, not about a world that revolves around it's super-heroine and her exploits. She got away with her ham burned. She should have died.

The red angel was just another HORRIBLE deus ex machina

[badooback · 1/10 · 26 March 2019]

In the end the whole theme of the red angel was just another HORRIBLE deus ex machina to justify extending the season four more episodes, when perfectly it could have been finished less than two episodes ago. Burnham is still the most unbearable character, crying and generating everything that is impossible for something important to happen if she is not in the middle. Tilly, another painful character, has competence. By God, what a bad and boring series!

A Veritable Mess

[Hitchcoc · 3/10 · 12 March 2020]

I'm a very patient person. Since we are dealing with science fiction, I give the whole thing a lot of rope. The problem is that the rules of physics and other sciences are continually being broken by mere mortals. The most insanely difficult problems, never encountered before, are solve by the likes of Tilly on the fly. She doesn't even consult the amazing databases that must be available. The business of time travel is immediately accepted. And then there's the tiresome Burnham who is just on screen all the time. When Spock went after her in the previous episode, he was totally correct. She is an unstable child. That aside, one of the things that has me annoyed me is that this one space ship, in one part of an enormous universe could be at the center of the future of everything. That's like saying that the sinking of the Titanic could end the entire civilization on Earth. By the conclusion of this episode things were so off the wall that there is a world of fantasy, not science. Could we have an adversary? One that is realistic within the future world.