Dinesh D'Souza: Self
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Margaret Sanger : Eugenics means the release and cultivation of the better racial elements in our society, and the gradual suppression, elimination, and eventual extirpation of those human weeds which threaten the blooming of the finest flowers of American civilization. The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members, is to kill it.
Dinesh D'Souza : [narration] By Sanger's time, techniques of racial elimination like lynching had become taboo within the Democratic party, and so Sanger pioneered a different approach to bring about a similar result.
[to Jonah Goldberg]
Dinesh D'Souza : How would you describe Sanger's so called 'Negro project'?
Jonah Goldberg : The Negro project was to bring these birth control and other eugenic methods into the black community. She hired black ministers expressly to sell the idea.
Margaret Sanger : We don't want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. A minister is the man to straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to their more rebellious members.
Dinesh D'Souza : Surely today's Democratic party leaders would repudiate Margaret Sanger.
Hillary Clinton (archive footage) : I admire Margaret Sanger enormously. I am really in awe of her, and there are a lot of lessons that we can learn from her life and from the cause she launched and fought for and sacrificed for so bravely.
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Carol Swain : It's not every day I get a political prisoner in my office.
Dinesh D'Souza : For me, Carol, it's so strange because I've just seen a whole different America than I'm used to.
Carol Swain : Well you know, blacks have been used to oppression in America, and some of it has come from the Democratic party. And it's been hard for me to accept because I was a Democrat for most of my life.
Dinesh D'Souza : What made you change?
Carol Swain : It was a number of different things. Some of it had to do with becoming a Christian, and the other part had to do with me learning more about the history of the Democratic party and just seeing how they used blacks for their agenda.
Dinesh D'Souza : Carol, tell us a little about your life. You seem to be, your life has been a real success story.
Carol Swain : It is, and I believe so much in the American dream. I was one of 12 children born in the rural south in Virginia, my father had a 3rd grade education, my mother was a high school dropout, and they divorced, and so I had a stepfather, all of us dropped out of school after the 8th grade. I married at 16, had my first child at 17, and you know, according to sociological theories, I should've been on welfare, I should not have had a future. But I ended up getting a high school equivalency, going to community college and earning the first of five degrees. I became a tenure professor at Princeton, and then I was hired by Vanderbilt during a time when I was going through a religious type of transition. But when Vanderbilt hired me, they thought they were getting this hotshot Princeton professor, and they got someone who was a born again Christian, and it's been interesting ever since.
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Dinesh D'Souza : [deleted scene] I want to name some people who have been involved in America's racial history, and I'd like you to tell me simply if they were Republicans or Democrats.
Carol Swain : Okay.
Dinesh D'Souza : Let's begin with the inventor of the Positive Good school of slavery, the idea that slavery was a good thing: Senator John C. Calhoun.
Carol Swain : Democrat.
Dinesh D'Souza : What about the guy who invented popular sovereignty, the idea that each state could decide for itself if it wanted slavery, yes or not: Stephen Douglas?
Carol Swain : Democrat.
Dinesh D'Souza : What about the writer of the Dred Scott decision, authorizing slavery and claiming that blacks have no rights that a white man ought to respect? Roger Tawney.
Carol Swain : That sounds like a Democrat.
Dinesh D'Souza : What about the founder of the Ku Klux Klan, Nathan Bedford Forrest who was also a confederate general?
Carol Swain : Democrat.
Dinesh D'Souza : What about the great champions of segregation, the people who legislated 'separate but equal' and the Black Codes throughout the south?
Carol Swain : Democrat.
Dinesh D'Souza : What about Bull Connor, the famous or infamous sheriff who resisted the Civil Rights movement?
Carol Swain : Democrat.
Dinesh D'Souza : What about Arkansas governor, Orville Faubus, who shut the doors of the Arkansas schoolhouse, until federal troops had to come in to allow black students to get in the door?
Carol Swain : Democrat.
Dinesh D'Souza : What about George Wallace who said 'segregation now, segregation forever'?
Carol Swain : Democrat. They're all Democrats.
Dinesh D'Souza : Let's now talk about a few more figures in American history who resisted racial oppression. Abraham Lincoln.
Carol Swain : Republican.
Dinesh D'Souza : His Secretary of State, Seward?
Carol Swain : Republican.
Dinesh D'Souza : What about the two leading senators who championed the cause of abolitionism, Thaddeus Stevens and Sumner?
Carol Swain : Well they were Republicans.
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Dinesh D'Souza : [about Ida B. Wells] She made the remarkable statement that what blacks actually needed was Second Amendment rights.
Carol Swain : Throughout the south when they passed the Black Codes, they put in provisions that if you were black, you couldn't own a gun. So that means that the KKK rises up into your yard, you don't have anything to defend yourself with. So the Second Amendment was very important to blacks. It was something that she championed because she knew as long as they were unarmed, they would be prey to white racists.
Dinesh D'Souza : You're saying that early Democrat efforts to have gun control had a racist motive?
Carol Swain : Yes, almost everything they did had a racist motive.
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Dinesh D'Souza : What happened to Carrie Buck?
Jonah Goldberg : Carrie Buck is a tragic and really important story. Carrie Buck is this young woman who was supposed to be quote unquote 'feeble minded'. They wanted to forcibly sterilize her. Her case went all the way up to the Supreme Court.
Carrie Buck : [screaming as she's wheeled in strapped to a gurney] Help me! No!
Doctor : Miss.
[puts his hand on her]
Carrie Buck : DON'T TOUCH ME!
Doctor : Miss! MISS! You need to CALM down! I need assistance!
Jonah Goldberg : Oliver Wendel Holmes said that it's okay to forcibly sterilize this young woman, who was not feeble minded, she read, she was perfectly competent, certainly didn't deserve to be forcibly sterilized. And he says in this famous damning line in his opinion, '3 generations of imbeciles is enough!'
Carrie Buck : [pinned down on the operating table] NOOOOOO!
Jonah Goldberg : Forcibly sterilized back in those days meant something. It meant holding this woman down, doing these terrible things to her through the power of the state simply because the state had this idea of what the population should look like and who should have the right to have children. Tens of thousands of people across the United States were sterilized.
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Jonah Goldberg : The opening of the Democratic convention in 2012, "Government is the one thing we all belong to." No, government belongs to us, we don't belong to it, we are citizens, not subjects. You remember the Life of Julia ad the Obama administration put out? Every frame begins with the words 'Under President Obama', Julia gets this kind of scholarship and this kind of loan and this kind of promised job. The creepiest sentence in modern political history was when The Life of Julia ad says "Under President Obama, Julia decides to have a child." Nowhere in this do you see Julia's family, there're no parents, there's no husband, there're no friends, it's just the state as personified by Barack Obama: community, churches, synagogues, family, friends, mediating institutions as the social scientists call them, that give us a sense of order and place in the world. That's what the world of the state has planned. And it was completely contrary to the ideas of the founding of this country, the classic liberal ideas of the founding of this country: the fruits of your labor belong to you, our rights come from God, not government, we are citizens, not subjects.
Dinesh D'Souza : The progressive-ism is actually progress away from the founding.
Jonah Goldberg : Yeah, that's right.
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Dinesh D'Souza : Why were blacks such a threat to the Democratic party?
Carol Swain : Blacks were the majority in several southern states. They were able to send numerous people to the states' legislatures. They had 22 members elected to Congress. So this was a nightmare for the Democrats because all of sudden, they were being ruled by black Republicans and they reacted with brutality. The party had its own war machine and its target were blacks and white Republicans.
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Dinesh D'Souza : [narrating] Jonah Goldberg is an editor at the National Review.
Dinesh D'Souza : Jonah, Democrats used to call themselves very commonly "liberals." But today, more commonly they use the term "progressive." What does "progressive" actually mean?
Jonah Goldberg : Social engineering and social control, where experts and bureaucrats and government officials guide society in a very specific forward direction, towards an end goal in mind.
Dinesh D'Souza : It kind of seems, Jonah, like the film Metropolis. It was all about class struggle and social control.
Jonah Goldberg : Right. Now it was the era of political parties and political movements that were going to guide society forward. Planning, which empowers the planners. There was this revolution in Europe and in the United States. In America, we called it Progressivism. Soviet Union, they called it Communism. In Italy, they called it Fascism. The flagship magazine of American Liberalism, The New Republic, celebrated Benito Mussolini throughout the 1920s. FDR had nice things to say about Benito Mussolini. Mussolini reviews FDR's book and says, "Hey, this guy is one of us. He's a Fascist." And it's important to remember that Fascism back then wasn't about the Holocaust. It was about planning and experimenting and ushering in this new progressive era.
Dinesh D'Souza : And one of the very important strands of modern progressivism, is the idea of eugenics. Who is the figure that comes to mind, who embodies this?
Jonah Goldberg : I mean, the obvious answer to the question is Margaret Sanger. Margaret Sanger was the founder of Planned Parenthood.
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Dinesh D'Souza : [narrating] At her graduation address at Wellseley College, Hillary sought to demonstrate her moral superiority by giving it to black Republican senator, Edward Brooke.
Young Hillary Clinton : [at the podium] We may not be in the positions yet of leadership and power, but I find myself reacting just briefly to some of the things that
[gesturing her hand to Senator Brooke]
Young Hillary Clinton : Senator "Brookes" said.
[clearing her throat while Senator Brooke sits and listens while feeling insulted]
Young Hillary Clinton : We've had lots of empathy. We've had lots of sympathy. The complexities are not lost in our analyses, but perhaps they're just put into what we consider a more human and eventually, a more progressive perspective.
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Dinesh D'Souza : [narrating] I wonder what way of life got these guys here.
Dinesh D'Souza : So, what are you in for?
Inmate 1 : Drug smuggling.
Inmate 2 : Armed robbery.
Inmate 3 : Manslaughter.
Inmate 4 : Murder.
Inmate 5 : Got into a bar fight.
[Dinesh looks at him in doubt]
Inmate 5 : And I set him on fire.
Inmate 1 : [to Dinesh] What you in here for?
Dinesh D'Souza : A friend of mine was running for office and I gave her more than I was allowed to give.
Inmate 2 : [laughs]
Inmate 3 : [laughs]
Inmate 4 : [laughs]
Inmate 5 : [laughs]
Inmate 1 : [laughs] That's good.
Dinesh D'Souza : [narrating] I think I might be the stupidest criminal in the history of American jurispudence.
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Dinesh D'Souza : And the Nazis admired Sanger and actually patterned some of their programs along the lines of things that she suggested.
Jonah Goldberg : Yeah, the first people who get wiped out under the Nazis actually aren't the Jews. They're mentally unfit, invalids, and all that. They went through the hospitals, and cleaned those guys out.
