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9/10
Breaking Point
LiamCullen614 March 2016
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These past two episodes have focused heavily on Carol, and for good reason: Carol has reached her breaking point.

In last week's episode, we saw her tallying up the people she'd killed - people, not walkers. She clearly felt remorseful, and began reflecting on all that she's done.

In this week's episode, we saw Carol at her weakest point in a long time. At first I thought (as many others did) that Carol was faking the hyperventilation, but it became clear with Maggie's shock and Carol's actions later in the episode that she genuinely was having an anxiety attack. But what for? What can she possibly be scared of now, when she's made it this far? Quite clearly, as she says at the end of the episode, what she's feared all along is having to kill again.

Indeed, that's why Carol gives the ominous warning to Paula that she should take Rick's deal - or else. Carol didn't want to be the one to have to kill her. She even admitted it herself when Paula asked if she'd kill her: "I hope not." Carol couldn't bear the thought of having to kill another person, hence why it seemed as though Maggie did all of the heavy lifting in this episode.

When she finally did kill Paula, you could see the utter dread and defeat in her eyes. She'd begged her to leave - begged her to run away so that Carol wouldn't have to do what she's done too many times. She even shot her in the arm to avoid finishing her off, as she has already done in this episode to one of Paula's accomplices. But she had to do it. Carol was forced to face the fact that she has to kill if she wants to survive and protect the ones she loves.

In fact, the only time in this episode that Carol mindlessly killed someone was when she saw the woman swing at Maggie's stomach. She didn't hesitate to put a bullet in her brain then. This goes to show that the badass Carol we all know and love is still in there, but she's only prepared to surface when she has to protect others - not herself. She said early on in the episode: "It doesn't matter what happens to me, just don't hurt Maggie; don't hurt the baby."

So, what does this all mean in the context of Carol's character arc? Honestly, it makes me fear for the future of Carol. The ending of the episode makes it difficult to tell where things will go next week, but these past couple of episodes certainly cast some doubts on Carol's future. Essentially, this mark's a turning point for Carol: she can either choose to ignore her feelings of remorse and come to terms with the fact that if she wants the ones she cares about to survive then she has to kill, or she can choose to shut down completely into a state of indifference and fail to do any more killing. Hopefully the latter of those two options won't materialise, but when Carol threw the match into the room of the Saviours and heard them burning alive, you could see just how broken she was. It's taking a massive toll on her, and we will likely see the effects of this in the coming episodes.

What's interesting, though, is that Paula was right and Carol was wrong. Carol said that Rick was a man of his word and that he wouldn't jeopardise their safety - and I think she honestly believed what she was saying - but it ended up being Paula who was correct when she said that they must have been far closer than Rick had said over the radio, as there was no static. Meaning, Rick likely lied to her and was going to attack the place anyways and take them by surprise. Once again, the writers effectively likened our survivors to Negan's Saviours, making it even more difficult for us to tell the difference. Either that, or Rick and the rest of our survivors just heard the screaming and gunshots or saw the smoke from the flames and came over then.

I have said it before and I'm about to say it again: season six has been fantastic so far. We've finally been given some truly excellent plot lines, and I'm now confident that this can and will continue. I'm very eager to see how they wrap this season up, but also fearful for the fate of our survivors...

Oh, and by the way, for those of you wondering: Negan's not dead.
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9/10
Who Are the Good Guys?
claudio_carvalho14 March 2016
Carol hits Donnie in the arm, but Maggie and she are captured by Molly, Michelle and Paula. Rick proposes to exchange Primo per Maggie and Carol, but Paula prefers to go with their prisoners to a hideout. Donnie wants to shoot Carol in the arm, but Paula defends her. While Michelle interrogates Maggie asking where she lives, Paula discloses briefly to Carol the story of her life after the zombie apocalypse. Carol has a bond with Paula but she needs to take a decision to flee and help Maggie.

"The Same Boat" is another excellent episode of The Walking Dead. The viewer follows Carol and Maggie and never knows the actions of Rick and his group. The gorgeous Alicia Witt has magnificent performance in the role of Paula. Carol seems to be affected by the killings of her group, maybe under the influence of Morgan words and attitudes. My vote is nine.

Title (Brazil): "The Same Boat"

Note: On 25 April 2016, I saw this show again.
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8/10
We Are All Negan
ThomasDrufke13 March 2016
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This episode was a bit of a filler as we look to finally see Negan and only have 3 episodes left of the season, but I really enjoyed seeing Carol and Maggie take center stage. It felt like the right time for these characters to have some scenes together. It was time Carol truly faced her inner demons and going up against someone like Paula, played by Alicia Witt, was the right fit. If only this episode wasn't so slow.

We picked up exactly where we left off last week, except this time, we got it from Maggie and Carol's point of view. It was a great cliffhanger last week but I was really hoping they wouldn't take the entire episode with the conflict. For the most part, the group of kidnappers, led by Paula, held their own acting wise. With all the smoking and big talk, it took a while for something to really happen. But what was fascinating to see was how similar Paula and Carol really are, which calls back to the episode's title, the same boat.

Carol's arc on the show could arguably be the most complicated and diverse. At first, I didn't think her little hyperventilation moment was real but I guess it makes sense. We saw her last week struggle with the fact that she has probably killed 18 people and tonight exemplified that struggle. Of course, Carol did eventually get herself out, but it wasn't before she nearly got herself and Maggie killed.

Speaking of Maggie, it looks as if she got a flesh wound from one of the kidnappers. I hardly believe this will mean she lost the baby, but it's just another reminder of the ominous tone and feel of Negan's inevitable presence for the rest of the season. We also got a few of Negan's crew to proclaim that "they are Negan", which is an indication as to just how far gone Negan's crew is. Can you imagine Glenn saying "I am Rick"? I can't.

So overall, this was another episode reminding us that the lines are continuing to be blurred between who the good guys really are. Carol and Maggie joined in on the killing spree as they managed to take out the kidnappers from last week in the midst of Carol having a mid-zombie-apocalypse-crisis. It's a filler episode by definition, but I was glad to see Carol and Maggie get some screen time as we went deep into the mind of the queen of the apocalypse's current state of mind.

+Maggie and Carol getting some screen time

+Carol and Paula mirror images of each other?

+We are all Negan

-Very slow

8.0/10
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10/10
awesome! that's the stuff!
Nicole_Proschek14 March 2016
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I think this and the last episode were the best ones for a long time. I don't see how anyone can complain about this. It differs from the comic but finally in a good way. Horror can be so lame if the lead characters don't follow through being tough. Unlike here, they do it even cooler than I imagined. There haven't been many fatalities on the good guys side for a long time but who cares? In the end who wants all the good guys dead? This isn't Game of Thrones. There are some awesome scenes and surprises. How is this a filler episode? Would you rather have seen how people are waiting at the base or some flashback stuff as in previous episodes?

Enjoy the ride!

Go Rick!
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10/10
a great bottle episode, with an incredible character development, a well-managed rhythm, with great character moments and a fantastic address.
MomentIMDB12 October 2019
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The episode left a great cliffhanger, which was handled in a very good way. good points: although most of the episode is in a room, the pace is very good. The rescuers are very interesting and have a good deepening, and interact very well with Carol and Maggie. Maggie had a good development and was related to Carol, who was the best character of the episode along with Paula. The latter was an incredible character and that congenia a lot with Carol. I loved Paula's death. the performance of melissa mcbride is magnificent, at the level she had in the grove. bad points: none. It is a very well written, directed and acting episode
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9/10
The tension grows
jrg-colthouse14 March 2016
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This episode of The Walking Dead attributes both the things that make it truly great, and the things that make it truly frustrating.

Following on from last week's episode, we see who Maggie and Carol have been kidnapped by, a dreadfully annoying woman that is designed to irritate us from the start, and her death at the end of the episode was incredibly welcome.

This episode is arguably a character-building episode for Carol, and somewhat for Maggie also. We see them take centre-stage and prove that they are strong enough to take down a group such as the saviours. The final 10 minutes is fast, exhilarating and you can't take your eyes off it, but the first half an hour is very slow, talkative and I found myself just saying COME ON ALREADY before the inevitable conclusion.

POSITIVES:

+ We saw more of Maggie and Carol + The plot thickens and I can tell it's moving to greatness + Last 10 minutes were great + Daryl hugging Carol was reminiscent of Season 5 Ep 1 and pulled on my heartstrings some more + Lauren Cohan is flawless

NEGATIVES:

  • Acting of Alicia Witt is good but frustrated me - I know Carol was a weak character to start off with, but I thought she was a badass now? Why so tearful and weak in this episode? - As for season 6, this is a very slow episode


I'm so in love with The Walking Dead, that my 9/10 is actually quite low. Most of my reviews are simply 10/10, or at least 9.5+/10. Despite this, can't wait for next week's episode!
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9/10
Excellent
fthomas-2311011 October 2020
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I have read a few of the reviews for this episode, and none of them see what Carol is doing. She is letting the kidnappers think she is weak. She will come back when she needs to. Apart from that, an excellent set of characters on both sides.
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8/10
Carol's actions are interesting
davemaijala17 March 2016
Yes, leaving Carol and Maggie alone is straight out of a Batman TV series episode, allowing them time to do something - but the episode did result in atypical difficulties. What was special was Carol's actions (including her acting) - from the very beginning. Did you notice her marking the ground with her boot, knowing it would help Rick and the group track their location? Carol is the wisest of the group and her character arc is amazing - one of the best in any movie or TV show. Since I have to include one more line of text, here it is.................. Since I have to include one more line of text, here it is..................
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9/10
Women Ran This
ginaolson15 March 2016
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There are spoilers ahead so if you have not already seen The Walking Dead, Season 6 Episode 13 "The Same Boat", please stop reading now because I'm not responsible for you learning about something prematurely.

Here we go! This episode was all about the ladies. Their internal battles; their ability to overcome so much and still survive, but this was also about the maternal instincts of these women; The Savior members and our group. The Savior ladies all had their stories to tell about how it was before the apocalypse happened. Paula, Michelle and Molly showed different stages of where Carol and Maggie have been and may go in the future. You have Michelle demonstrating the beginning of it all. Her naïveté and unsubstantiated threats were almost laughable in the current times. You could tell there was no there, there. Molly had already given up in the sense that's she a dead woman walking anyway, so there's really nothing that you can do to me attitude. Her disposition and I don't give a crap attitude probably made her more dangerous than the others, but the lack of true leadership made her just another follower. Now Paula was straddling both the hope and the surrender to circumstance displayed in the other two women. While she misread the outward act that Carol was displaying, she also allowed herself to become vulnerable by opening up and buying into the act.

Maggie and Carol on the other hand are going through their own internal struggles. After Morgan got into Carol's head, she hasn't been right. When she stopped Maggie from ending one of the Saviors that demonstrated just how deeply Morgan got to her. Bringing it back to the humanity of it all showed her maternal side and while Carol's character has completely evolved and if she can't find the balance to survive, she won't survive for much longer. This whole incident made it that much harder for her to do just that. Maybe trapping the other Saviors on the kill floor, setting it ablaze and hearing their screams reinforced their positions, but in the end, both women were weaker emotionally because of it. Maggie, on the other hand, is Carol back at the prison. After seeing what happens when you don't finish the job, she doesn't want to have to deal with them again. She has seen that when you try to give them the benefit of the doubt, it bites you almost every time. They have something good right now and she wants it protected not just for the group, but for the baby. As she evolves, what you're seeing in her is a very strong leader emerge and even though she's part of our group, she would be a valuable asset to anyone but also a threat. What you also saw was the disgust and regret after she realized the humanity in what she just did to those men. Self-defense is one thing but a preemptive strike was what she did with unsuspecting victims. Would they have killed her and Carol, who knows, but I'm still waiting for our group to penetrate the inner circle of Negan's group.

Negan is getting closer to making his debut and I'm really getting a bad feeling about it. From what the cast members are saying about it, to how they're acting on other shows, like The Talking Dead (did you see how Melissa McBride (Carol) was acting?
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9/10
Fighting survival and inner struggles
TheLittleSongbird18 May 2020
When 'The Walking Dead' was in its prime, it was to me one of the best and most addictive shows in the past decade or so. The best of Seasons 1-5 made for quite masterful television. Season 6 was far less consistent, with big flashes of brilliance but a case of a season starting off so well and ended the opposite. Sadly, the show has not been the same since and that it declined so drastically post-Season 6 is quite disheartening.

"The Same Boat', with Season 6 nearing its end, is a wonderful episode. Not quite a 'The Walking Dead' masterpiece, not quite as good as the season's first four episodes, "No Way Out" and "Not Tomorrow Yet", or one of the show high-points. It is though one of the better Season 6 episodes (just to say to me none of the previous episodes for the season are bad, even the disappointments) and one of the last 'The Walking Dead' episodes to come over as great to me.

It is a little slow in the pace at times, especially in the early portions.

Although Carol's character development really advances and is quite riveting, her decision making, or should we say conflicting emotions, at the end doesn't ring true and compared to her actions in perilous situations in other episodes came over as out of character as well.

Otherwise her development, moral dilemmas and internal struggles in one of the most tense situations yet had intensity and was touching to see. Also felt sorry for Maggie and Paula is one chilling villain, adding to the increasing sense of danger. The conflict has real intensity, best to quite frightening effect, making the chillingly brutal conclusion all the more powerful. Melissa McBride gives a searing performance as Carol and gives some of her best acting of the show up to this point and overall, especially when she is being taunted. Not everybody here liked Alicia Witt, personally agree with the critical acclaim she got and felt that she was very confident and delighted in bringing out Paula's cruel side, making for one vicious performance that convincingly became more subtle later on the more we knew about Paula and her internal emotions.

Like all the previous episodes, "The Same Boat" is as gritty and audacious as one expects while the necessary claustophobic tension needed to make the scenario work is brilliantly brought out in the direction. The music is not over-bearing but fits with the atmosphere like a glove. The script is taut and also surprisingly elegant and despite the scale in characters being smaller the story is still big in intensity and emotional power. The claustrophobia and intimacy is on point too. Didn't feel that it was too slow most of the time.

Summarising, excellent episode, very powerful and gave me the chills. 9/10
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10/10
What makes you a bad guy?
and_mikkelsen11 February 2024
This episode managed to change the perspective of it all, forcing us to look at our characters in a new way! Diving into the moraly complex acts that they have commited and ultimately what makes them any different from the people they are trying to kill!

I loved the conversations Maggie and Carol had with the Saviors as it allowed for a new perspective on them! Paula in particular, stole the show in this one!

You could tell that something changed in Carol! She has always been the one to kill anyone who posed a threat, and now she was faced with that fact!

The episode was also very graphic and violent, with some brutal mercyless kills!
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7/10
Good despite overall slowness and some questionable character development. Warning: Spoilers
I have seen filler episodes of Walking Dead. I wouldn't quite classify this as filler, just as I wouldn't classify "The Grove" as filler. It furthers the plot, develops the characters, and has a good chunk of action at the end. It was a little slow paced, but there wasn't too much that could have been actually cut. Sped up, sure, but not cut.

The performances are good, although I don't like the direction they're taking Carol. Actually, I don't so much mind the direction so much as the speed. I see what they're going for, but as it is it comes out of nowhere and doesn't make as much sense as the writers would like to think.

There's also the "We're all Negan" moment. I really hope they're just doing a version of "I'm Spartacus", and not actually changing the nature of The Walking Dead's best character. I did really like the climactic action sequence. It was a solid little gory classic Walking Dead style thing.

Overall, I thought the episode was just okay. It had problems, but it was solid.
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3/10
Carol turns to Mother Teresa
ksenguptaprcsdigital12 August 2020
Carol from manipulating and asking rick to kill the guy for domestic fight or killing people cause they were sick. Turns to getting almost the whole group killed due to stopping Maggie and then she catches the Morgan virus and trys to save people who will kill them without a thought.

Who tried to kill Daryl, Abrahim & Shasha before. Now she almost gets all of them killed due to Morgan Flu. But Kills with a conscience now like a priest who is preaching. While she caused the death of many before.

And now she finds conscience in the middle of a fight.

If you lost your cohonas don't come simple. First you manipulate people make them what they are then you find Conscience ???

Mia Khalifa to Mother Teresa. Cant digest.

Having said that the episode was good. Would be much better if they found a better angle than the moral police crap.
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9/10
CAROLS CHARACTERISATION
gangeshgnair25 November 2022
I really like the characterization of carol, played by melissa mcbride. The character is so compelling. That girl, who looks soft from the outside and is cold hearted in the side. This episode tries to show the goodness left in her. Carol herself realizes that she is turned into a beast right now, like rick. The episode also shows her manipulative skills. This trait in her is also shown in episodes before, but the one in this episode was amazing. Even though Maggie appears to be intelligent, physically strong than carol externally, this episode clearly shows how carol is much better in surviving and is much more skillful than Maggie.

Looking forward to how carols character arc progresses.
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8/10
Grim but compelling
snoozejonc26 January 2022
We see what happens to Carol and Maggie.

This is another vicious yet compelling episode with memorable character moments for the above.

The main narrative is moved on slightly, but there is significant focus on Carol and Maggie. Their survival skills and the toll that the killing appears to be taking is handled well.

Much like the previous episode these characters are taken in a darker direction and it is uncomfortable to watch at times. They are put in a situation with little choice in the actions they take, but ultimately they put themselves in the position due the choices they made prior. It is cleverly written to try and keep you onside by showing how seemingly tortured the characters are by what they have done and continue to do.

It is what reviewers like to call a 'bottle episode' and it uses both regular and guest characters well to keep you hooked. There are some feminist themes that come through strongly in the resolution to the events and some of the dialogue.

There are a few little nitpicks that make eyes roll such as the hostage movie cliché of the leaving prisoners unguarded and one zombie related piece of gore that is clearly there for shock value. I have to say though, the twist involving the kill room is great storytelling.

I like the design of the set. As with all the production design of The Walking Dead the attention to detail is great and it feels as creepy and desolate as ever.

All performances are excellent with Melissa McBride, Lauren Cohan and Alicia Witt standing out.
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10/10
wild and woolly, with the right balance of everything
bdwilneralex15 March 2016
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This was a phenomenal episode. I was particularly impressed because, the way things started out, I thought it could readily end up in just another boring shootout with predictable plot lines. But that's not at all what happened. I was impressed with Carol's resourcefulness and most UNIMPRESSED with "Neegan" being sufficiently plumb-ignorant to let Carol hold on to a rosary with a metal crucifix that could (and, in fact, did) turn into an escape tool. The episode offered the proper balance of tension, horror, character development, edge-of-your-seat timing, and relief. I was left with one question, however: how is it that Carol managed to escape from the room where she was being held? Were there no locks on the door? If not, then how did Paula and her buddies keep the "growlers" (their term for "walkers") from barging in? Surely they have enough "intelligence" to push or pull an unlocked door open!
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10/10
Feminine version of Reservoir dog
instantpresent16 January 2021
Are women meant to give life or death? Walking Dead at its best.
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8/10
Carol
meltingmel15 April 2023
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I see a lot of complaining about Carol on these reviews. I can guarantee every single one of those were written by men. Carol was pretending in the middle of the episode - she's good at that. But at the end? She truly was upset and didn't want to kill. Here's the kicker and the part that the male reviewers don't understand AT ALL. She was UPSET because this was her first time seeing women fighters like her. Women just like her and the other women in Rick's group. They are bad*** and they also had similar backgrounds to Carol and Maggie. All of these women could relate to each other in someway. They could see themselves in each other. These women of Negan's group even tried to help Carol and Maggie - they sympathized with them. In this post-apocalyptic world not a lot of women survive. They have to do terrible things or give themselves up to bad men for protection. It's a man's dystopia. She was distraught because she didn't WANT to kill these women. They could have easily been her comrades. She knew this.

It's very irritating seeing male reviewers bag on her that she's getting "weak" or it's "out of character". It's NOT. This is very much in her character. Paula commiserates how her husband beat her too, how they were so alike.

I wish those women with Negan's group could have lived. They would've been great characters to see go further.
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10/10
A Great Episode for Carol
kidjaynite28 November 2023
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Love this episode. It has your basic kills and some murders that clearly will take a toll on Carol. I love this one cause we get to see multiple sides to her and leaves you guessing at some parts if she was acting a certain way to fool everyone or if she was truly going through it all. But there was a throwback with her playing the carol before she lost Ed, then before she lost Sophia, then her current self, then finally her breakdown. I truly believe McBride gave most of her best self in this episode. The episode felt even realistic for the most part, by showing how the murdering is finally burdening everyone.

Alicia Witt's scream in this episode still haunts me.
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8/10
The episode explores the moral complexities of war, as Carol and Maggie are forced to confront the consequences of their actions and the toll it takes on their conscience
fernandoschiavi18 March 2024
Paula and her group of Saviors have taken Maggie and Carol hostage. Rick tries to convince them to trade the women for Primo, a Savior who his group has captured. Although Paula initially resists the idea, she eventually agrees. During Rick's final communication, however, Paula becomes suspicious: The lack of static in his transmission suggests that his group has followed Paula's people back to the slaughterhouse in which they are holed up. Paula prepares to defend the building.

Carol, meanwhile, is pretending to be weak-willed in order to get her captors to let their guard down. She waits for the right move. Paula's people begin to show signs of dissent, as a Savior who Carol earlier wounded in the arm demands to take revenge. Paula stops him, but only after being struck in the face by the man, who is also her lover. Carol attempts to bond with Paula over the incident, citing the abusive marriage she was once in. Paula rebukes her, saying that she's weak... which is exactly what Carol wants her to think.

As Maggie is taken away for interrogation and the room is temporarily clear of watchful eyes, Carol sharpens the crucifix on her rosary beads. She then uses the makeshift tool to cut herself free. She attempts to escape with a minimum of bloodshed, as previous conversations with Morgan have caused her to question her propensity toward violence. After Maggie's stomach is nearly sliced by a Savior, however, Carol immediately kills the person.

Paula appears in the hallway. She is impressed by how Carol fooled the group into underestimating her. There is a fight, during which Paula is killed. As a group of backup Saviors arrives, Carol uses Paula's walkie and impersonates the woman, tricking the men into entering the killing room of the slaughterhouse. She then traps them inside and lights a fire, burning them to death.

Rick and the group arrive to find that Carol and Maggie have already saved themselves. He goes on to question Primo, asking him if the as-of-yet unseen Negan was in the satellite compound or the slaughterhouse. "Both", Primo replies. "I am Negan." Seeing that the man will not cooperate, Rick immediately kills him. Carol is shocked by Rick's actions, realizing that she's not the only one who has become quick to turn to violence.

"The Same Boat" follows Carol and Maggie as they are captured by a group of Saviors and held hostage. The episode is notable for its exploration of the moral complexities of war, as Carol and Maggie are forced to confront the consequences of their actions and the toll it takes on their conscience. One of the most memorable scenes in the episode is when Carol and Maggie are confronted by their captors and must find a way to escape without resorting to violence.
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7/10
Negan's angels vs. Alexandria's
gedikreverdi16 December 2020
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Carols having some problems. Paula and others held hostage Maggie and carol. They shed blood and killed them all who took them. Rick took a bald guy and he turned out to be Negan and he shot him instantly. Carol kills and burns people with a cross in her hand.
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2/10
Awful. Totally disappointing episode.
lomaran-115 March 2016
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I hated this episode. The hypocrisy of the Savior women - her calling Rick prick from the get-go. Where does she get off? I hadn't even seen the character and I already wanted her dead. (Spoiler** Very appropriate death BTW. I said to the TV 'somebody please eat her face and ...'). Why can't Hollywood writers produce likable strong women? Whenever they make the attempt, they are always masculine, man-hating examples who are generally always unlikable. Carol, to me, is an example of a strong woman but you notice - she is still feminine at times. She does, though, what needs to be done and now, they are even messing with her. Kind of see the writing on the wall. She hesitated several times tonight and regretted doing so afterward. You don't hesitate in a zombie apocalypse, if you want to survive.
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2/10
Here we go again
twilight-9071013 March 2016
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Another Sunday night dedicated to finding out how this show failed to hit the bar of good television, and this episode hit so low it dug into the ground.

We started off the episode in the prospective of the ones capturing Carol and Maggie, with their apparent "strong" female leader with attitude that was probably the weakest attempt at a character I have ever seen, not to mention the other 3 with her. So after first "threats" to kill our beloved Carol and Maggie, the captors flee the scene to "think things through". Of course these tough captors have no real pack to their punch and aren't even convincing in wanting to kill Maggie or Carol at any point in this episode.

After getting settled in their new location, Carol turns nut crazy religious, at first giving the impression she is faking it, but right till the dirt nasty end "boss battle" (boss battle referring to that fight with the red-head with carol that lasted 5 seconds) she continues her hick personality after not really facing death in the face, in fact, given what has happened to their previous encampments in the last seasons, Carol was probably safer than she has ever been in the show.

Going back to the middle of the episode, we have 25 minutes of attempts to get to know these 3 women captors, creating an odd women oriented episode, given the lack of women found in the captors encampment last episode. It created an odd setting and didn't really show what these captors were "supposed" to be like. What they turned out to be is just a step-up from impolite. The interrogation with Maggie was closer to a heart-to-heart girl bonding moment than an actual interrogation. Cause ohhhh, this interrogator also had a child and had a hard life... like ohhhh.... I totally care.

I don't really feel like going into the redhead or the redneck woman much, since they all fall into the same pool of terrible character writing and uninteresting dialogue that proved to be a terrible episode.

The show rushed everything extremely quickly these past few episodes. We went from kidnapped to saved in the matter of 40 minutes. We allegedly figured out who Negan is, and figuring it out was pointless since it didn't matter who or what Negan is. All he was in a name someone muttered at some point in this season. Nothing more. The very smell of a continued plot line was sucked up and used in a matter of 5 terrible episodes. Next on the list is the "Hobo Magic Jesus Dude" turns out to be the second coming of Christ and they all go to heaven to fight off zombie god, alternating of course between episodes to focus on different characters to make the illusion we are having good character progression (which is definitely what happened this episode with Carol).

Well, I can't say a good thing about this episode. Just more pointless write-ins of characters to kill for cheap story that doesn't last more than this episode. 2/10 only because the show "The 100" is far worse than this so I reserve the 1/10 for that.
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5/10
Slow -- and of course the one dumb thing all kidnappers do
wbagot114 March 2016
I don't think this should have been a full episode. It really ground to a halt the action pace that had been happening in previous episodes. It would have worked better as a 20 minute segment of another episode cutting back and forth. And overall the characters and how they reacted were a bit too predictable to me ... like we've seen all of this before.

** Mild Spoiler ***

And I'm too old to watch the same eye-rolling scene again and again. Kidnappers leave the kidnapped alone in the room ... and the door unlocked behind them. (Groan)
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1/10
A pointless filler episode
evanbro13 March 2016
Warning: Spoilers
This episode reaffirms why I despise this show. In the first 40-45 minutes of the episode nothing occurs. You have meaningless and horrible dialogue b/w characters that were killed off anyway. You have absolutely zero plot progression, like usual. Zero character development. etc.

Then of course Carol the deus ex machina saves the day like usual. Then all of a sudden Carol actually develops a conscience. When faced with the opportunity to shoot the lady who victimized her the entire episode... She can't! It's not like Carol remorselessly killed a mentally disabled child a few seasons ago...

In addition to all of this there was some godawful acting. The red haired lady had to be one of the worst actresses I have ever witnessed.

And don't get me started on how much this show likes to senselessly tease the deaths of key characters. In this episode they just had to tease the death of carol by a walker even though the average viewer with half a brain would understand she has plot armor that makes her invincible.

Anyways, this will most likely be flagged as not helpful by the walking dead fanatics who praise this show regardless of what episode it is.
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