Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (2017) User Reviews

They could do it better

[songtri · 5/10 · 15 December 2017]

I'll write briefly.

• many unnecessary scenes, characters
• waste of characters, such as Snoke
• unexplained background stories
• plain action scenes compared to other episodes, fighting scene with red guards should have to be better

Misjudged tone, didn't build on last movie, but some brilliant Rey / Kylo scenes

[indieanarchismo · 5/10 · 15 December 2017]

The tone of this movie was completely misjudged and was really jarring. It opened with a prank phone call of all thing, constant quips from every character, even the best scenes in the film (featuring Rey and Kylo) were undermined by 'funny' lines and visual gags (rock destroys wheelbarrow, Rey asks Kylo to put on a towel, Rey hit on the head with a lightsaber). The film also failed to build on anything set up in the force awakens - who is Snoke?, character development for Finn, what happened to the New Republic, etc. The plot surrounding Kylo, Rey, their 'force link' was really clever and original, and should have been explored further. Honestly, after they killed the guards, I'd have liked them to team up for a bit longer.

Overall, probably one of the worst 3 Star Wars films, on par with episode I or II. I'm really shocked that none of the professional reviewers are saying this, and it's current IMDb score of over 8 is scandalous.

Such great potential, ultimately a bitter disappointment

[ibrarali-37803 · 5/10 · 15 December 2017]

This review is in two parts. A shortened version for those without time to read and a longer more in depth version afterwards.

The Good

• Absolutely terrific performance by Mark Hamill
• Excellent visual effects
• Better performance from Daisy Ridley
• Likeable new character Rose Tico

The Bad

• Subplots that made no difference to direction of the film
• Under-development of several characters
• Overuse of Porgs
• Forced Humour

The Ugly

• Complete destruction of everything Luke Skywalker has done or achieved
• Waste of true potential with the death of Snoke
• Narrative inconsistencies from previous Star Wars Films

Now the TL:DR version

I feel really let down by this instalment. I am someone who thoroughly enjoyed TFA and enjoyed Rogue One. The choices made for certain characters in this film however made very little sense. They were diabolical. What i will explain now is the really Ugly parts of this film.

Its well established that Darth Vader was immensely powerful through previous films. Luke Skywalker however was the chosen one, The one to bring balance to the force. Not only did he beat Vader in combat, he saw the light in Vader and helped turned him back into the light. Fast forward a few decades and Luke is easily bested by a young Ben Solo. A Ben Solo that is beyond redemption, too far gone to be saved. Leading Luke to contemplate the most despicable of acts, something unimaginable, something that makes no sense. Why Ben Solo was so far gone, i guess we will have to see. What was it about the Dark side that pulled him? What was the allure? We know Anakin was pulled in through fear, fear of losing Padme. He was manipulated by Palpatine. We know very little about the Kylo Ren/Palpatine relationship even though we are two films into a trilogy.

This is a Ben Solo that others can sense conflict in. By his own admission, even Snoke can sense this conflict. Yet Luke cant. And what becomes of this man, who is beyond redemption too far gone that he killed his own father. Someone who isnt able to kill his mother (one maybe can understand this) or Rey. The latter makes very little sense at all. Narratively speaking, Kylo Ren should have no concerns about killing Rey. Yet this being a Disney film that was never going to happen. She should never have been led to this point by the writers who seem to make things up as they go along.

Speaking about making things up as they go along, how Rey ever got to be so powerful is ludicrous. Anakin was trained by a Jedi Knight for many years. Luke was the chosen one, trained by Yoda, perhaps the greatest of all Jedi. So think about this for a moment. Luke beats Vader, however cant beat Ben Solo. Kylo then cant beat Rey (on two occasions). Where is the consisntency? I was willing to forgive the first battle between Rey and Kylo in TFA, after all Kylo was injured, hadnt completed his training and Rey was competent in self defense/weapons fighting. Now we hear that years prior, it didnt matter that his training was incomplete, he was already too powerful that he could beat Luke Skywalker but now cant beat Rey, someone who has zero training in the ways of the Force?

This is what happens when different when you allow someone to completely write and direct their own script, someone who wants to bring his own ideas on board, at the expense of everything that has already been established. TFA had consistency. Even the prequel trilogies had it too, while they werent great at least they were consistent.

Then comes the waste of potential with Snoke. Here we had what could have been a true villain, extremely powerful. His use of the force was something that brought a chill to my spine. For a moment i thought this could be set up for a duel too good for words. Luke and Rey versus Snoke and Kylo. Or perhaps even with Rey turning Kylo a three on one battle? Alas it wasnt to be, they decided to go down the dull, senseless route.

Lastly, believe it or not, this is the first Star Wars film in the main series without a lightsaber on lightsaber duel. A duel between a sith and a Jedi. Make of that what you will. Personally, its a massive missed opportunity. This film as mentioned did have some good aspects. While the route they went with Luke wasnt to my liking, Hamill was still nonetheless magnificent. Daisy Ridley put in a better performance than she did in TFA and showed good range. The space battles were enjoyable and the special effects were excellent. Finally although they did overuse Porgs, there was one scene with Chewie that was hilarious.

The Last Jedi will leave you confused, with conflicting emotions. Much like Kylo Ren. Just dont expect Luke to sense this or do anything about it.

what is the point of "the force awakens"???

[luc_leopard · 5/10 · 15 December 2017]

After watching this abomination, i think i can say that Rian Johnson hates JJ Abrams. The hype that was built around JJ Abram's "mysteries box" and the trailer's theme "pick your side" are based on a lie because of this abomination called the last jedi. All of the hype surrounding the new characters, captain phasma, del toro's character is pointless

they said that the last jedi is very imaginative and you will see a lot of different things on this universe, but the reality is the opposite. The last jedi is the most uninspiring and unimaginative star wars i have ever seen.

without further ado these are my pros and cons

pros

• new star wars
• superb soundtrack
• luke skywalker

Cons

• Snoke's 2 years hype is emptiness
• Rey's 2 years hype is emptiness
• finn and co has zero character development
• luke skywalker
• the twist is there is no twist
• the main story is about running away from the first order that makes me felt isolated
• casino story arc is useless
• there is no lightsaber duel
• yoda is a thor
• leia is a superman
• the beginning scene should be the final scene
• there is no space adventure
• the humor are cheesy
• phasma is a waste
• Snoke death scene is laughable
• there is no knights of ren ( i think rian johnson forgot about this fella)
• it is not like watching a star wars movie
• unimaginative, uninspiring, boring as hell
• there is no climax on this movie
• Rian Johnson is developing the new trilogy

5/10

A gurning flashback to the prequels

[TwistedMango · 5/10 · 15 December 2017]

The Last Jedi opens with Poe Dameron (Oscar Isaac) prank calling General Hux (Domnhall Gleeson) before going on an extremely dangerous mission. This is the sort of comic relief handy to Guardians of the Galaxy, but the continued attempts to transpose it here has left The Last Jedi smugly light when it could've been better served with a tone akin to The Empire Strikes Back. Production-wise, The Last Jedi looks and sounds fantastic. The star wars themselves are the most bombastic of the saga, yet the CGI never feels cheap or overdone. The planets all look great, with scenery varied without ever ripping off the original saga (though the final battle was lovingly reminiscent of the confrontation in Hoth of Episode V). The problems lie not with Rian Johnson's execution of scenes but his shooting script. There are way too many characters, and new creatures that in their cheap comedy remind of Jar Jar Binks in singularity and the Ewoks in general. There is no point too monumental to be checked by a throwaway gag with signaled music cue. The thematic confrontation between light and dark that is at the core of the saga is only delved into through Kylo Ren, and for all of the time Rey (Daisy Ridley) is on Ahch-To she is never convincingly portrayed as fighting with the darkness. tempt-trailer_1 The greatest slight is the portrayal of the characters from the original trilogy. Chewbacca (Joonas Suotamo), R2-D2 (Jimmy Vee) and C-3PO (Anthony Daniels) are chronically underused bits of fluff, and Leia Organa (Carrie Fisher) spends a large portion of the film unconscious. Yoda's (Frank Oz) appearance is a jolt, but ultimately only serves as a reminder of how ridiculous the character can be if not handled properly. Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill) is the only figure from the original trilogy with sizeable screentime and a character arc. Some fans not like the optimistic and headstrong figure of Episode IV becoming a miserable recluse, but decades of profound hurt can do that to a man. Characters from Episode VII are also mishandled. Why the effort was made for Maz Kanata (Lupita Nyong'o) to be established in The Force Awakens to get a ninety-second cameo here is beyond me. Captain Phasma (Gwendoline Christie) is as underdeveloped as before. Rey is with Luke for the majority of the film, leaving her friendship with Finn (John Boyega) unexplored. Poe's subplot exists outside the company of either. Finn is instead lumbered with Rose Tico (Kelly Marie Tran), whose only real character features are a mawkish backstory and stubbornness. The film is overlong, and in no small part due to their subplot taking them to Canto Bight. It's a nice touch to replace Mos Eisley with a true hive of villainy, a casino for the wealthy, but it's clear from the get-go that this storyline is incidental and all action from there on in is uninvolving. The real reason for this diversion is to introduce Benicio Del Toro's self-serving crook DJ. Del Toro is a fantastic actor who plays the part well, but like so many in this film suffers from a limited screentime in an overcrowded world. lastjedi3 A highlight of the film as per The Force Awakens is Adam Driver as Kylo Ren. You can feel the conflict roiling within him, and a confrontation with Rey is the undisputed highlight of the film. This scene had echoes of both the Episode V and VI finales. That the film carried on for a half hour more after this is a shame, as emotionally and narratively there wasn't much to go on from there. What is left is one of the most visually exciting moments of the saga, decrepit TIE fighters leaving great red trails across the salt flats in a final showdown. Yet even here the film is dogged by cheap comic moments, laboured sentimentality and unnecessary creature introductions. Film Twitter is ablaze with people viciously defending The Last Jedi from all comers, insisting it's the most creative and engaging Star Wars yet. I'm sure people were saying the same of The Phantom Menace on its release.

TERRIBLE!!!

[markdel316 · 15 December 2017]

This movie was a major let down, Snoke is just a guy with Sith powers who gets killed off quickly. Rey is not a Skywalker her parents are peasants who are buried on her home planet or so the story says for now. The CGI on Yoda was terrible, Luke Skywalker was misused again and new characters are highly unlikeable or you just do not have any interest in getting to know them. Garbage I can not believe I waited two years for this movie. It's worse than The Phantom Menace.

"THIS ISN'T GOING TO GO THE WAY YOU THINK"

[royalmoosemovie · 5/10 · 15 December 2017]

I came out of Star Wars The Last Jedi full of excitement and joy, but the more i sit and think about it the more i feel robbed. The trailers for The Last Jedi were promising a dark dramatic film where Luke Skywalker is broken and conflicted with himself and on the verge of insanity, Rey is shown asking Kylo Ren to show her her place in this world taking his hand in the First Order...NONE OF THAT HAPPENED.

Instead, the film begins like a saturday morning cartoon where General Hux(who was an intimidating and powerful character in The Force Awakens)is receiving prank calls from Poe Dameron(who also is very different in this film). The main plot pretty much consists of the slowest high speed chase in film history between The Resistance and The First Order, which is very disappointing because Rey and Luke's arc which is what the film is named after is taking a backseat to a space janitor(Finn)and maintenance worker(Rose)flying around the galaxy with some dude named "DJ" trying to destroy a tracker.REALLY???

Throughout the first and second act Rey attempting to get Luke to return and help the Resistance "Light The Spark That Will Burn The First Order Down" and trying to figure out who her parents are on the side. This arc was very important in The Force Awakens and is thrown out the window with Rey admitting that she knew who her parents where the whole time. Drunks. WHY??? If the Star Wars Saga is supposed to focus on The Skywalker Family then why is Rey so heavily focused on? She even goes so far to fall in some pointless "Darkside Pit" and have some trippy dream, all to add up to nothing.

Most of the characters in The Last Jedi are treated very poorly with a few exceptions. Snoke, who was another character who was built up so much in The Force Awakens is easily killed by Kylo Ren when he is teased to turn to the light, which was also for nothing rendering Snoke's death pointless. Poe Dameron is perceived as some dimwitted "Blow Everything Up Pilot", who disobeys even the simplest direct orders. Carrie Fisher(RIP)does a terrible job as Admiral Leia, delivering her lines like a robot. Not to mention that she's not dead? Are they just going to have a CGI Leia for the entirety of Episode Nine?

The film is also way too crowded, Maz Kanata shows up for 30 seconds and has no purpose whatsoever. Yoda shows up as a force ghost to get Lukes head back in the game, at first I was blown away with surprise and happiness to see them using the original puppet, but now i realize that there was again literally no point of his cameo because Luke doesn't listen to him anyway. Captain Phasma is heavily advertised in the trailers and merchandise and is killed off less than 5 minutes into her appearance.

The moments in this film that were full of potential and promise were quickly shot down with unneeded puns and goofs, Luke tickles Rey with a leaf telling her The Force is trying to connect with her, Kylo Ren tries to persuade Rey with his abs and everytime there is a cool moment a Porg appears out of nowhere and does something stupid usually with slapstick comedy.

Sadly, there are little to no action sequences in this film and literally not one, NOT ONE lightsaber duel. And of course the film builds one up, teases it and you guessed it; doesn't deliver. Not only does it not deliver it gives the film and excuses to needlessly kill of Luke Skywalker.

Nevertheless, The Last Jedi isn't all bad, the cinematography is amazing and Rian Johnson delivers some stunning visuals. There is a JAW-DROPPING flashback with an Evil Luke Skywalker trying to kill A Pre-Kylo Ren Ben Solo. The Set Pieces are spectacular, especially Snoke's Liar which is home to the Amazingly-Choreographed "Red Room Battle"

In the end, Star Wars The Last Jedi is not a perfect film, in fact it has a lot of problems with the script and not being as it seems. But, it still is an entertaining film that never gets boring thanks to easy flowing pacing and delivers some very cool and surprising moments.

Too many mistakes

[marhoffm · 5/10 · 15 December 2017]

To start with the marketing departure of Disney made a great job putting the impression in our minds that this one could be close to 'the empire strikes back'. I am referring to comments of JJ Abrams on the high quality of the story, reactions to early Screenings and even reviews from normally reliable magazines. The only explanation for this misjudgement may be that Cobb from Inception now works for Disney.

The reality is that 'Last Jedi' is a disappointment. It is far worse than the two newest Star Wars movies which I voted 9/10. The main reason is the poor story. Additionally there are some really big plot holes where you think 'aha if this is possible why hasn't person y done this in situation x before (in this one or any other film)?' This is one aspect which makes me angry because most of the plotholes could have been easily fixed. Why not hire somebady to look out for those mistakes? After all Disney does not seem to dislike reshoots. When the good atmosphere created by good pictures, costumes etc. (which is similar to the old movies by the way) is not destroyed by those plotholes, the chances are good that totally misplaced humor (even though the jokes are funny if you judge them isolated) do the rest.

Nevertheless there are also good aspect in this movie justifying 6 stars (on second thought it may be just a 5/10). These are the atmosphere (before it gets destroyed several times), the acting of Mark Hamill especially and the other main characters as well, plus some overall good scenes. To sum up sadly the bad aspects of the movies outweigh its good ones. This is especially annoying because I had the feeling that the movvie could have been an 8/10 if a few decisions by the director would have been different/better.

To paraphrase, this film did not go the way I thought it would.

[inforlonghaul · 5/10 · 15 December 2017]

To paraphrase Luke Skywalker from the Last Jedi, this film did not go the way I thought it would. The Last Jedi had its high moments, and boy were they great and entertaining. It had its lows, too. But it was a few of those lows that were a real deal breaker for me. I'll be honest here, I don't do movie reviews. But after watching this film, I had to get this off my chest.

I'm no hardcore Star Wars fan. I love my Star Wars, but I don't live and breathe it like many. I appreciate Rian Johnson taking a different direction with the trilogy and taking chances to make this film stand out and not a rehash; and he did a phenomenal job on numerous aspects of the film that left me intrigued and wanting to know more.

To be the 2nd installation of this series, however, The Last Jedi left several questions from The Force Awakens vaguely answered, or not answered at all, and even had storyline line decisions that left me astonished, dumbfounded, and asking myself "are you serious?" all at the same time. A few of the new characters and planets introduced were not fleshed out and felt like nothing more than a plot device to push the story along and probably should have been left on the cutting room floor as it unnecessarily prolonged the film.

Mark Hamill said early on that he had his issues with the script and Rian Johnson's treatment of his character Luke. There was so much potential after two years. This may get into minor spoiler territory for those of you that haven't seen the film yet, so I encourage you to skip this, but after Luke being a hermit for several years, I was really hoping to see Luke go beastmode as Vader did in Rogue One, but instead we get a bitter old man who wants nothing to do with thats going on with the Resistance and the First Order.

The movie satisfied my SW hunger, but I wasn't pleased with it either; rather it was lukewarm (no pun intended), so-to-speak. I will probably watch this film again if it pops up in my local hometown theater in a few weeks to see if maybe it will grow on me more, but we'll see. I can only hope that JJ Abrams can salvage whats left in Episode 9 and fix the issues that left me disappointed in The Last Jedi.

PROS and CONS of TLJ

[mustbeamateurhour · 5/10 · 15 December 2017]

To be fair here are the pros and cons of TLJ

PROS- 1. Ship going into light speed into new star destroyer 2. Luke getting shot by a ton of new AT-ATs and surviving 3. New ways the force is portrayed. example: seeing each other face to face even across galaxies. and Luke using that trick at the end 4. Yoda force ghost 5. Some good star wars slap sticky jokes 6. Some new aliens with puppetry 7, different story. it was not a "lets build star killer base 2.0" they stuck with a somewhat different backstory which was nice.

CONS- here we go 1. CASINO SCENES. nothing appealing at all about this scene. completely pointless could have been cut down way shorter. aliens looked like something from a star wars rebels animated series

• BB-8 has a feature that can shoot coins out of himself??? and the stupid alien was so dumb he didn't realize he wasn't a slot machine AFTER what it looks like is hundreds of credits worth...
• the aliens where awful looking especially that troll leprechaun looking cgi character. was not a fan of looks of horse race aliens either.

2. CHARACTERS

• Rose - It is nice to add in new characters but adding them in just to have both of them die means absolutely nothing to us. Rose was funny and i was on board having her but i don't caaaaaaare she was raised the way she was and i dont caaaaare she wants to punch the casino city in the face (even though i wanted to punch casino city in the face as well)

why not spend this effort to building FINs character?? or adding to Ray or Kylo!? LUKE CHEW?! ANYBODY ELSE that we've have already established. FIN feels like a complete waist of a character now. the last jedi made me watch 2 new characters have character arcs and then they killed them off.

• Holdo - just tell the crew the plan you had and a lot of things could have been avoided. poe would not have gone rouge on everyone or committed mutiny!!! glad she died at the end. it was the one human thing she did
• Poe - disobeyed orders with little to no repercussions really. Leia ignored her punishment for him as if it was nothing. Poe disobeys a second time AGAIN by doing what he wants to do and send FIN and Rose on a mission to casino city and failed. THEN commits mutiny. THEN after all is said and done they are trapped and wants to do his own thing AGAIN... sure he pulled away from the attack only because he knew it was a suicide mission. great Poe only some of your crew died again so... Poe is this unpunished rouge of a character with no consequences or actual arc. lets just let Poe do whatever he wants to do forever!
• MAZ - do you need some time to call you back?? you seemed busy

-FIN - i wish we got to know you better. -Mark Hamil said he dissagreed with everything Lukes character was. i agree and disagree. sad to see him as an old grumpy winey man. guess he never grew up? -REY - remember all the theories we had of her origin and then all we got was "oh your parents were nothing"... wish they showed us and didn't tell us that

• stupid kid at the end who looks to the stars and has a resistance symbol on his wrist watch.... uuuuuuUUUUUGHHHHHHHH

porgs - i liked but stop shoving them in my face. Disney you can still sell them as toys they dont have to be in the falcon when chewy even is irritated of them. pointless.

3. STORY Bad writing all around. cant emphasize enough the casino planet. if DJ the hacker could escape anytime he wants why didn't he? Pretty convenient he was there. oh he was trying to trick them and get money off them? then why did he look like he was just trying to escape himself? he didn't even give them a "hey cmon this way" he just left them and the ONLY reason they met back up was because BB8 was like "hey see those idiots on those new alien horse cats? yeah those are my friends pick them up". there are so many different ways to write all of this out.

I've seen bad movies where there is a lot of phones being used. this seemed like one of those movies where people were just calling each other constantly. Rey and Kylo. Luke and Leia. Maz and FIN just stop calling each other and write the movie with a little more effort.

In conclusion it is sad to see so many fan theories on youtube have more thought out character build up than a professional studio. Disney obviously does not care about us as fans they just care about making more money as if they don't have enough. Disney is basically the first order in real life. I'm out

I have no words and I must speak

[halaszgabor1990 · 5/10 · 16 December 2017]

Imagine if the "I am your father" scene of The Empire Strikes Back ended with Luke's smartass comeback. Imagine Obi-Wan throwing a one liner while Anakin is crawling at the edge of the lava stream on Mustafar. Imagine Yoda sharing a joke with Mace Windu between two wise words. Imagine the Empire being led by idiots, spineless lackeys and undisciplined aggressors instead of masterful manipulators, threatening strongmen and dutiful officers. Imagine the Rebel fleet at the end of "Empire" consisting a dozen individuals, and nothing else, all going nowhere. Imagine the whole concept of learning the ways of the Force means absolutely nothing as even someone without training can move object and stuff. That's The Last Jedi without any spoilers, through some thought experiments.

I was generous with the rating of The Force Awakens, because at that point, I saw potential, I saw ways the three movie saga can turn out well. Now it all seems finalized and not for the better.

I gave 5 stars, but 4 of them are-as the Resistance would put it- just hope, nothing more.

And whoever is trying to destroy my favorite franchise, because they have the power and education but also lack the soul, this message is for you:

Star Wars was always made great by the drama and not by cheap laughs. The universe was good because it was credible by its own logic, the villains looked like a real threat, the heroes had something personal AND something greater to fight for, not because it had something cutesy in it.

You are not making a Marvel flick for cheap laughs in the Summer season. You are ruining Star Wars with one liners, random gags and characters that just don't fit in their alleged role. You are not providing comic relief, you force jokes on a good drama. That being said, I don't mind humor if it's actually relevant, not just thrown in, as if there was an algorithm that forces characters to say or do something funny once in every two minutes of screen time.

Riddle me this one thing: Which part, which scene, which character of the new trilogy will be the one that people will speak about even decades later like it happened in the case of the last two trilogies? Just name one. If you can.

All in all, my personal Star Wars canon seems to terminate at Episode VII. I refuse to accept anything that happened to my childhood heroes and even to their initially promising follow-ups in Star Wars: The Last Jedi.

Disappointed with character Development ***SPOILERS***

[getlaudanow · 5/10 · 16 December 2017]

Like many, I went into this film full of hope with a completely open mind, and wanted to like it! It started well, a bit of forced humour in places, but still enjoyable. The middle of the film seemed quite pointless in parts like the Canto Bait scenes, but I loved Snoke's throne room scenes and he came across as a really good villain, really driving Kylo and Rey against eachother and manipulating them nicely. When Rey is brought before him I could not wait to see how everything was going to play out. But then he died very easily, and rather pathetically in the end, and then so did Phasma, and then Luke seemed to go out on an anti-climax as well after a great build up in the ending sequence.

It's quite clear that Disney/Johnson did not have a place for these characters in the future, which is completely fair, but I'm not sure they got the ending they deserved after all of the hype surrounding their inclusion in the film. I'm all for changing the franchise and giving things a new lease of life, but it wasn't the number of new twists that were disappointing, it was more the manner of them, and how little they actually contributed to the story.

It was the ONLY Star Wars film where I left feeling disappointed at the potential places they could have taken the film, even though I have come out of every other Star Wars film on a high....even after the Prequels (Yes, I did say the prequels)! This film left me scratching my head. I wanted to like it so badly, but I just wasn't sure I liked where it was going, or how everything had been handled.

They had just killed off a lot of the good characters that they had built up in TFA, and now under Johnson's direction, he deemed them surplus to requirements. It just felt like they were trying to fit too much into this film, whilst trying to make a complete fresh start in Episode 9. Let us not forget that we knew little about the Emperor or Boba Fett when they were both killed off in the original trilogy, but I thought with Rian Johnson's new take on the franchise, that he might have explored these characters a little further.

I thought that Rey had little character development too in this film, other than attempting to chase Luke around the island, then only to find out that her parents were complete nobodies. This is fine, but it felt like that was an easy way out of trying to appease fans who had compiled numerous theories about who her parents might have been over the past 2 years.

I understand that Disney may be wanting to attract a larger audience to the franchise, but it felt like the opinions of die hard fans were casually tossed aside in this next installment, and I can understand why many of them will not be happy with the end product. On looking back, I wouldn't say the plot was unique at all, more of a mashing between the ROTJ and Empire, with fillers thrown in to buy screen time. However, saying that, on the whole it is an entertaining film.

I definitely want to see the film again when it comes out on blu ray, as you cannot always get the full impact of the film on a first watch.

It is NOT the worst film ever, but nor is it anywhere near the best, in my opinion. Some great scenes in this, but I personally had hoped for a better storyline and character development, which is why I am giving it a 5. I'm hoping that on a second viewing that my mind will have been changed and the score will be much higher, but for now I'm still pondering as to why things happened the way they did in The Last Jedi.

Two Options to have made this a much better movie..IMHO

[pitmouse · 5/10 · 16 December 2017]

OK...Hindsight is 20/20 and we all no that Carrie Fisher has passed away...Hollywood does last minute re-shoots ALL THE TIME for this circumstance but in this case the production team was just LAZY.

I get that the point of this new trilogy in essence is to kill off all the old Heroes and introduce new ones to continue the Star Wars journey for the youth of today and I am fine with that. I even agree with it to an extent as long as their deaths make sense. Han dying in the last movie was a perfect example of a "good way to go"...His death was a tragedy and furthered the plot. IN my opinion they could have handled this movie in 2 different ways from what was on screen to deal with Leia. One if they wanted her in the next movie and the other a small reshoot after her real life death to give her character an onscreen end.

1) Carrie Fisher doesn't pass away in real life: Keep the movie the way it is except instead of having the STUPID flying space scene, they should have just had her off the bridge when the attack happened. This scene makes no sense at all. If someone not trained in the force but has it in them can fly through space and live, then why can't a fully trained jedi master survive a laser blast or falling off a high structure (the way more jedi died than I can count in the Clone Wars)? Also instead of having the new character of Laura Dern sacrifice herself they should have given that job to Admiral Ackbar (who would also have had to leave the bridge during the attack). Admiral Ackbar has been an Admiral and leading troops in all the Star Wars movies up to this point. In this film he is seen in the background in like 4 scenes and has like 4 lines of dialogue before he is sucked into space...BAD WAY TO END A LEGEND.In this scenario fans are pleased because one of the characters from the original trilogy makes a sacrifice and Laura Dern is still around as a leader for the next film so we can grow more attached to her. Also, Leia is still around for whatever way they originally had planned for her to die in the next film.

2) Carrie Fisher passes away after filming: Fix the film in one of two ways EITHER end her last scene with the closeup of her face in space and her last breath. Then have Admiral Ackbar make the sacrifice going to lightspeed and you keep Laura Dern for the next movie (since there will be a female lead missing without Carrie Fisher OR do some reshoots with a stand in and some clipped footage and have Leia be the one to sacrifice herself jumping to light speed through the other ship. Same as before Laura Dern is saved to fill the female lead spot in the next movie.

Since they didn't change the story after the news about Carrie Fisher fans are going to be left with one of two things happening in the next movie and both options are going to be a let down. EITHER she will die off screen in between the two movies somehow OR she will be on a ship that is blown up in someway and we will only hear her voice on the radio clipped from other movies or something right before it happens.

I understand what their original plan was...3 new movies and each movie has 1 of the 3 main characters from the original trilogy die. 1.Han 2. Luke, 3. Leia but they should have been willing to change this slightly with Carrie Fishers untimely passing.

There is so much more I could go into about the fact that Finn hasn't helped the story AT ALL since breaking Poe out of jail, or what they did to Luke, etc. but in the end I don't beleive the 8.1 current rating on IMDB at all. There is no way this movie is a 1, 2, or 3 but also no way it is an 8,9, or 10!!

Another Disney Star Wars Film superficially loaded with effects and action without any deepness

[grpe-48624 · 5/10 · 16 December 2017]

I'm with my age a Star Wars fan from the beginning. I love the "Original Trilogy" and the improved digital version, I appreciate the broad-spreaded informations of the "prequel trilogy", I cheered "Rogue One", I have an ambiguous status to the films of the new trilogy. As I mentioned the films are loaded with action and attractive sets fishing for the applause of the audience and the fans by leaning on the plot and phrases of the "Original Trilogy". George Lucas used "archetypes" as a fan from the "one and only" mythologist and scientist in religions Joseph Campbell. He invented worlds and characters who could have been possible in reality, he invented a believable system with his "galaxy far far away". "The Last Jedi" is only a fast-told story without any profundity. The time you hope to get an answer for the most interesting parts (Snoke, Kylo, Rey, the Knights of Ren, the Force actually) the plot switches to another part and leaves you flat. It's only half-truth. In detail the humour and the new-founded irony is okay. The "porgs" are very "disney-like" but you would love them. The lack of deepness in the character of Kylo Ren is unbearable! You won't get the answer what turned him that bad to kill his father, to hate Luke, to bow to Snoke, to his relationship to Rey. He has a conflict within. Snoke was responsible for that. Snoke could "reed him like a book" but missed it to pay attention that Kylo will kill him? Snoke reigns the galaxy on a giant Star Destroyer. He has his own pretorian guards. He founded the First Order. He is the "puppet master". We don't get any answer to him till he was too easily through Kylo. Leia's rebel flagship was bombed by the First Order. She was pushed into space- helplessly? No she used the Force to glide back into the flagship to be safe. Looked like some "witch thing". Ridiculous. The rebel flagship navigates in front of the persecuting Star Destroyer in that distance that the guns couldn't reach it. In the meantime they send another ship th a "casino planet" to go for a "decoder" who may switch of the tracking signal on the Stardestroyer. They have the time to come back and board on the Star Destroyer in secret. That sounds "surrealistically". The Star Destroyer does nothing but shooting behind the rebel flagship till their fuel is empty, the rebel flagship does nothing but waiting for any help?! The character of Finn found no "work-out". Plasma is senseless furthermore. Hux is ridiculous. Luke is heavily depressed and disillusioned. He hides on a planet in nowhere. The only answer given to the audience is that he recognised the deep badness in Kylo.- That's why he gave up everything? That's why the only wanted to die in his "nowhereland"? Thats why he wont help his friends his sister in a heavy crisis?- That's much too less for me! He doesn't give Rey lessons in the Force he just talks big about the Force. In the end Yoda- a highlight in the film- persuades him to act with responsibility. Luke confronts Kylo as an "illusion" from his planet and helps his comrades to escape. Then he becomes "one with the Force" totally exhausted and fades away. Leia- please forgive me I loved her RIP- survives as the only human hero/heroine of the "old human actorship", the one who passed away last december. This is sarcastic, isn't it? Poor Star Wars...

Nothing Left

[pootc · 5/10 · 16 December 2017]

Be aware - spoilers ahead.

"This is not going to go the way you think" - Luke Skywalker "Let the past die" - Kylo Ren

Oh I get it, The Last Jedi certainly shocked us but it's not a good thing in this case.

Porgs are actually cool but The Last Jedi is not particularly good. The best movie since Empire Strikes Back some critics are claiming. So better than A New Hope? Not even close. It might be better than say Attack of the Clones because it doesn't look like a bad video game, the dialogue, acting and special effects are much better as they should be but I don't get the reviews citing this as an intelligent Star Wars movie because it manages to avoid any answers to any meaningful questions and when it does -- the answers are just so disappointing. I feel like J.J Abrams set it all up and Rian Johnson came in and completely messed it up.

If his mandate was to turn the series upside down in response to the criticism of The Force Awakens being too much like the original Star Wars Rian Johnson has succeeded but at what cost?

The Last Jedi is a really disappointing movie for somebody looking any connection or backstory anything Star Wars lore. It has some good action moments but after The Force Awakens left viewers such a high-note with the return of Luke Skywalker - I left feeling so empty and wondering if they just should have left it all alone.

The legend of the rebellion and childhood hero for so many Luke Skywalker is a broken man who unfortunately has not learned too much in his time in exile despite tracking down the original Jedi temple, texts and scrolls he apparently hasn't read them or learned too much after all these years which I find completely puzzling and frustrating. He has no new revelations, we learn nothing new about the force. Rey barely learns anything from Master Skywalker who doesn't seem to be all that wise at all. I wanted something new, some new revelations about the nature of the force, the Jedi and how it began. Unfortunately we learn nothing here from the ultimate Jedi and its so frustrating.

Don't get me wrong, we're treated to a great performance by Mark Hamill but Luke Skywalker is wasted. He should be great and wise and in the Last Jedi he just isn't. I mean at all. I'm all for the broken, lone samurai type loner who is shamed but this is the hero of the original trilogy which is by far the moat revered and while Luke gets his redemptive moment, it merely serves to 'pass the torch' to the younger cast which is so contrived and obvious.

I must admit like many I had really high hopes for this film, the trailers got me. For nostalgic reasons and as much as I really liked the characters in The Force Awakens it's the original characters who we all fell in love with and seeing them treated like this is, is just sad in the end. A means to simply pass the torch to younger actors is really disappointing. The Force Awakens did it right with Han Solo, no qualms, because it elevated Kylo Ren's villain status enormously while this seemed like it was just a generational hand-off for the sake of it.

This is all made worse by the real-life and very tragic passing of Carrie Fisher who is back in her final performance, and a good one at that. Just knowing she won't be there for the next episode stings even more so now after this one. But the problem with this story is Rey and Luke are at it's center and the dynamic needed to be fleshed out way more to make her a worthy successor to Luke Skywalker and the question of her parentage, one of the biggest hooks in Force Awakens is one of the most disappointing parts of this whole entire story. It is just such an unsatisfying answer and a massive wasted opportunity. Basically Rey gets a light sabre and she is the most powerful Jedi, no backstory, no anything she just is. She did not earn anything, she has not learned anything. She just is...

More wasted opportunities lie with some of the characters. Supreme Leader Snoke's character 'moment' was a shocking but ultimately empty. We got no backstory and nothing clever to bind the saga together at all. He is literally just a pop-up 'bad guy' that just appears out of nowhere and corrupts young Ben Solo, aka Kylo Ren.

Captain Phasma is another throwaway character with nothing to do at all as is General Hux, who just provides comic relief which is overdone here anyway. The other twists and turns lie in the relationship between Kylo Ren and Rey which does manage to keep you guessing for a time as to where their allegiences will end up. Again both are really good in their roles but its not enough to save a lackluster story which is overlong.

Oscar Isaac's ace pilot Poe Dameron is back and joined by Laura Dern playing newcomer Admiral Holdo. Their story and their interaction is one of the best subplots or side stories that completely pays off . I loved Poe Dameron's energy and enthusiasm in The Last Jedi just like I loved Finn's in The Force Awakens.

Unfortunately Finn's journey is far less compelling now. He is joined by actress Kelly Marie Tran who plays Rose Tico and a friendship/ possible romance ensues but it's all very cliche and nothing to write home about nor is the much-hyped Canto Bight scenes which resemble something more out of a Harry Potter movie than Star Wars, though Benecio Del Toro's good in his limited role.

There is a commentary on war and politics that seems like an afterthought here just like a lot of the characters. Ultimately The Last Jedi is a completely lost opportunity to tie in the Skywalker story (aka the Star Wars story we all fell in love with) together in a satisfying package. It's all very disjointed and it's the first time I have left Star Wars movie this flat.

Disney have tried to throw one too many curve balls this time around for curve ball sake and they're way off. Shocking twists are one thing but I remember leaving The Force Awakens with so much optimism and hope for the future. I wish this were different but I feel as though there is no steam left in this story and nowhere else to go that is really enjoyable.

This is definitely a new feeling after watching a Star Wars film.

The Entire Movie Is Up And Down!

[adamb-00861 · 5/10 · 16 December 2017]

I don't think I have ever been excited for star wars as much as I was for the last Jedi. The trailer made the movie look like the greatest star wars film ever. Yet I left the theatre expecting more and wishing that Disney would have taken it's characters in different directions.

Pros-

• The movie is visually stunning. One of the greatest graphical movies of all time. The hyperspace scene with the first order and resistance ships was epic.

• I love loved Carrie Fisher in this movie. She was bad*** from start to finish.

• Rose was a good edition to the series.

• I liked the internal conflicts between Rey and Kylo. Their dynamic bond and polar opposite attitudes were great for the series.

Bad-

-Luke Skywalkers roll was pathetic. Disney turned him into a wounded duck when they should have used him as a bad*** hero. He dies without even getting touched by a lightsaber. They ruined his character!

• Why did they kill off snoke? He is portrayed as being super powerful and strong in the ways of the force and then he dies the same way as Palpatine. His arrogance blinds him and clouds his mind which allows Kylo to cut him in half. Andy Serkis said Snoke was more powerful than Sideous. Nope don't by it! They had a great mysterious character with snoke and they cast him aside literally mid movie!

-The ending is basically like Empire Strikes Back

• Captain Phasma dies without any character development.

-Finn is a worthless character in my opinion. I like how John Boyega portrays Finn but I just don't think this character is necessary.

Overall it's good enough to see and experience but the gaping plot holes, piss poor character decisions, and bad pacing leave me feeling conflicted about the future.

Disney comedic show

[leanonpokemon · 5/10 · 16 December 2017]

After the dark and serious "Rogue One" movie we get an average sci-fi comedy with light swords and apparently some Luke Skywalker. It had some of the best fighting scenes. Overall visuals were stunning. But the plot choices (accidental romance, highly questionable key moments...) and gags/"oh cutie creatures" just killed the vibe. Still there are some of the best scenes I've seen in Star Wars. I personally hope there is a director's cut version without this corporate "movie-selling recipe" stuff. Is it worth watching? Yes. Will you swear after? Very well may be.

Slow motion car crash... Worst movie since episodes I, II, and III.

[mchayes-95965 · 5/10 · 17 December 2017]

I feel totally misled by initial critic reviews. This had an awesome trailer, a good foundation in the Force Awakens, and ridiculously strong follow up with Rogue One. What happened here I don't know. But at least half and hour could have been left on the cutting floor. Laura Dirn was like some one out of Hunger Games and was a wooden and boring actor. Snoke was underdevleoped and his last few lines were straight out of the hobbit style of 3rd party Gollum... And nowhere near as scary as the emperor on Return of the Jedi. The interplay between Rey and Ben was awesome, and Adam Driver was this films saving Grace. The little characters that filled space around various scenes were silly. General Hux was a joke. Vadar would have axed him. The First Order can't be portrayed as bumbling goof balls. They need to have menace and some success (perfectly achieved in Empire strikes back) otherwise they lose credibility. The whole casino side story was absolute crap. This one lacked imagination and story development. They are going to have to dig deep to salvage this for the next installment. And no one will believe the critics next time - they must have been on the payroll.

(Spoilers!) Underwhelming at best...

[milospanta-20346 · 5/10 · 17 December 2017]

Oh boy, here we go...

So, I got myself hyped for this movie after seeing the trailer (which was brilliant, in my opinion). I started expecting this movie to finally answer most of the questions from TFA, to have great scenes packed with good action, meaningful and good character development and writing. Turned out I shouldn't have set such high expectations...

The good:

• CGI and camera works are really great, magnificent at moments even. Props to the guys who were working on this aspect of the movie;
• Kylo has finally matured into a young Sith Lord who knows what he wants and is not afraid to stretch out his hand and grab his destiny by the throat. There is much difference between this Kylo and the TFA Kylo, who was nothing but an emo teenager with serious anger issues;
• Luke is back! Mark Hamill does a wonderful job yet again. But, that's really all there is to say about Luke (I never thought I'd say such a thing about Luke freakin' Skywalker!);
• Poe was amazing in this movie, loved Oscar Isaac's performance so much
• John Boyega once again did a great job on portraying Finn, as did Daisy Ridley on portraying Rey.

The bad:

• the overall story is... mediocre. Writing was underwhelming particularly in Luke's case, where he was unnecessarily reduced to a mere "has-been Jedi" who for some reason believes that the Jedi must come to an end. Really?! Did you see/hear Yoda say that after Galactic Empire destroyed the Republic? No. Because true Jedi never lose hope, especially not legendary and most wise ones;
• Snoke - such a wasted potential. So many great options for this guy and Disney chose... nothing? Killed in such an appalling fashion by his student who was beaten by an untrained Rey in TFA. All knowing, all powerful, cannot be betrayed!... Gets betrayed a second later and doesn't see it coming. Everything that was intimidating and great about a good character was spilled down the drain;
• Leia's death in space should have been just that - death. I get the feeling that the basic laws of physics are changing just to make one character seem badass. Such an unnecessary and nonsensical scene all in all;
• Captain Phasma is one more potentially good character who should have gotten more screen time;
• Yoda's appearance. As soon as I saw Yoda, I nearly screamed out of happiness, but then... Disney turned him into a Force-ghost troll who nonchalantly destroyed precious and ancient Jedi books just to... prove a point to Luke? Really?! And Luke, being one of the best and wisest Jedi ever, needs Force-ghost Yoda to tell him to learn from his failures. Freakin' really?!
• Porgs are as useless as people predicted, serving only to attract younger population to watch the movie and to sell Disney merchandise;
• entire character of Rose. Basically, Disney came up with Rose character like this: "We have several strong female characters, including the main protagonist Rey. How about we add one more just for laughs and giggles?" Goes from just an ordinary mechanic to a super-skilled pilot who then proceeds to take a dump all over Finn's noble intentions at the end of the movie. Because her crush on Finn is more important than Rebellion not getting wiped out by the First Order, amirite?
• overall humor falls flat most of the time, with only 2-3 scenes worth a chuckle.

I could go on and on about the negatives, but I won't since I think those above prove my point. The worst part is that I wanted to give TLJ a grade of at least 7/10. But, after first impressions settled down I just kept remembering all the flaws, so now it's officially a 5/10 from me. And that's me being generous because Star Wars is love, Star Wars is love.

Some Highs, Many Lows

[vrusso30 · 5/10 · 17 December 2017]

Star Wars: The Last Jedi is the 3rd SW movie I've seen in theaters, and definitely the most polarizing of them. It has a few big highs, but many, many lows that weigh down the overall quality and timelessness that is expected of a SW film. I'm gonna divide my review of this film into 3 simple categories listed below. SPOILERS INCLUDED.

THE GOOD

Decided to start with what I liked in the film, because there is a decent amount. First, the acting. For the most part, it's outstanding. Performances from Daisy Ridley, Adam Driver, and of course Mark Hamill are nailed. What the rather corny writing subtracts, these 3 really add back. I like Kylo's emotions tearing him between 2 sides and being forced to pick because of Rey's refusal to join him. At this point, I hope they keep him with the First Order and don't try to pull a transition to the light like with Vader. Without Snoke in the picture, Kylo is the only one who can stand a chance against the Resistance, so I hope he gets further developed as a bad guy rather than good. Another thing I rather enjoyed was the choreography of the few lightsaber encounters there was in this movie. They definitely aren't too numbered within the film, but seeing Rey and Kylo get into the intense battle with Snoke's highly trained guards was adrenaline pumping to say the least. Lastly, the appearance of Yoda within this film was awesome. If you asked me what I thought about Yoda appearing within ANOTHER SW film a few weeks ago, I would've told you it sounded awful. But the way he was portrayed by the legendary Frank Oz was absolutely wonderful within this movie. By the time the scene was over, I had a giant smile across my face. Sadly, that's about where the good things end.



VERDICT

Star Wars: The Last Jedi had some really cool moments, all of which I couldn't even mention in this review. Ultimately, though, these moments are more than overshadowed by the movies undeniable downsides that really ruined the film for me. That being said, I'll be going back to this film in the future, but definitely making sure I skip the entire casino sequence.

A Mishmash of Empire Strikes Back with Return of the Jedi

[christopher-cole83 · 5/10 · 17 December 2017]

I didn't like this movie. I didn't hate it, but I didn't like it.

This was, in many ways, like two of the previous (good) movies: The Empire Strikes Back, and The Return of the Jedi. ESB in the sense that the resistance is nearly destroyed but still manages to survive somehow. ROTJ in the sense that Kylo Ren ends up killing Snoke. But, ultimately, this really isn't either one of those movies.

What this part of the story ends up being is Rey spending close to 80 percent of her scenes trying to convince Luke Skywalker to either join the resistance, or train her, or both, but he's become a self-loathing caretaker of some ancient Jedi texts even though, for him, the way of the Jedi is dead.

This movie also gets bogged down in what turns out to be a completely pointless subplot in which Finn and another character, Rose Tico, figure out how the First Order is able to track them through hyperspace, and they hatch a plan (without consulting any superior) to disable that ability. Why it becomes pointless is because the superior officers of the rebels have already figured it out and were undertaking their own plan. But because of Finn, Poe, and Rose and them getting mixed up with a smuggler named DJ (who ends up selling them out), hundreds of rebel fighters were lost.

And to top it all off, Rey's origin is as much a mystery as it was before. Except, by the end, Skywalker is dead.

This movie could have been so much more.

The Soul is missing in this Star Wars movie. Very disappointing.

[Spring15 · 5/10 · 17 December 2017]

What separated the Star Wars movies from the rest of the Sci fi movies and action films was the depth it brought to the story. No other movie franchise touched so many fans the way Star wars did. The characters were well developed, there was the philosophy about the force, the Jedi were certain types of people that many of us admired. We loved all characters, even the villains.

I had enjoyed The force awakens and Rogue one. I had even enjoyed the three prequels. So I went in to see The last Jedi with great expectations. I could not believe how bad this movie was. It was not Star wars at all. The Story was poorly told. It was being jerked around. Really bad use of humor. So many whys and hows that were never explained. So many disconnected and 'makes no sense' type scenes! Awful screenplay. The Snoke character is so badly portrayed!. Kylo Ren keeps getting on the screen and disappearing. Luke Skywalker is to be accepted only because he bears the name, and we know Mark Hamill is playing it. We never find out much about Rey or anyone else. Rey miraculously becomes a great fighter without any visible training, except in one scene. The new character Rose, the maintenance worker, added nothing. The group of goats, foxes, color, fire, just created more distraction. The fight scenes were unbearably long. Chewbacca was (mis)used just to create humor. The persistent theme for me throughout was- confusion.

There was a constant onslaught of special effects, as if they would make up for what was lacking in the story, dialogue and characters. I kept hoping that somehow the story would get on track. It never did. Rian Johnson did a terrible job as Director and writer.

There were a few positives. Daisy Ridley was very good again as Rey. Some of the scenes were spectacular. It was good to see Carrie Fisher one last time in a movie.

I couldn't wait for the movie to be over. It was boring, disappointing, and it made me angry to see what they did to my favorite movie series. I read a couple of reviews by critics and they were praising the movie! I couldn't believe it! I can't believe how bad this movie is. It's not like a Star wars movie at all. Its soul is missing, and what we got is a ton of special effects that obliterate an already flawed story. The only touching moment was at the end of the credits- "In loving memory of our princess Carrie Fisher". It brought tears to my eyes.

Will there be an Episode 9? I have no desire to see it. George Lucas should never have sold the rights to his beloved Star wars franchise. This is the worst Star wars movie, and really the only Bad Star wars movie.

It's time for the Jedi to end.

[changx · 5/10 · 17 December 2017]

I liked original Star Wars trilogy when I was a "kid" in the 80s. The year is now 2017, I'm an adult now and I expect more. More depth, more story, more thrills, more action. The Force Awakens was nostalgic, okay. I had hopes that the Last Jedi would really awaken the saga into the 21st century. Overall, I personally feel nothing spectacular. Special effects were okay. Action was weak. Fight scenes were not memorable. Plot is dull. Bad guys hunts good guys. Good guys run. Bad guys catches good guys again, good guys run. They fight and escape. 5 stars is left for the actors and actresses who did a great job playing their roles in a unoriginal film. Kill the past.

I have never been a big fan of Star Wars

[bOOnish · 5/10 · 17 December 2017]

I have never been a big fan of Star Wars because I found the movies to be mediocre in most of the relevant aspects. They had mediocre stories placed in a galaxy of mediocre creativity with cheap aesthetics and a questionable concept of man. So watching a Star Wars movie has been a mostly boring experience for me in the past.

Now guess what: This one was a positive suprise. Probably because I didn't have high expections.

Of course the story isn't really good. It's in a lot of parts ridiculous and it's 100% predictable. Of course the movie irritates an intelligent human being from the first scenes on: Why do we have bombers that have to fly "above" the target in space? Why are their bombs falling "downwards" as there were gravity? Why do laser shots have a ballistic path to their target? If you can destroy a whole fleet with a light jump why didn't they "weaponize" this long ago? But to hell with such questions. Star Wars always has been fantasy and never Science Fiction. They nerver understood space. They never had an inspired access to technological fiction.

So why did I enjoy wtching this piece then? Because I start to like the aesthetics and the well made action scenes. And this is said by someone who normally hates the overuse of boring action sequences in movies. But somehow the overuse of action sequences didn't seem boring to me. Dont' know why. Maybe because there were those super-cool red guys? Who knows.

So overall I can say that I found the new Star Wars entertaining. But I feel a bit sad for the real fans of the franchise. I guess they had some expectations about character development and continuation of story that weren't met. Because this must be said: The charecters are mostly colourless and dull. The movie tells us almost nothing about their history, their psychology, their goals. What's about this Snoke guy? Oh never mind, he's dead before you learn anything about him anyway...

... but hey - who did expect a decent story from Star Wars anyway?

Forget everything you knew about the Jedi, the Force, the far, far away galaxy for that matter

[TheMara61 · 5/10 · 17 December 2017]

I've seen Rian Johnson praising himself that he had this 'vision' about Luke's character, that he pushed all the characters to their limits. I think this is the most outrageous statement one can deliver, when that one is honored the making of another movie about the Star Wars universe. For it's not about YOUR personal vision, it's about respect for the values the Star Wars stand for. No one should be allowed to strip the Star Wars Universe of its epicness and greatness in order to introduce his 'personal vision' in the far, far away galaxy. For the stake it's not the amount of money Disney invested into the movie, but at least, again, the respect the producers, the director and the studio owe to the fans that are supposed to buy the tickets to the movie. And it's not any sci-fi Justice League movie (forgive me, Justice League fans). It is Star Wars, and Star Wars belong to their fans, for Star Wars is a legend and our live-history already. It's OUR Star Wars, not theirs. OUR Star Wars cannot be bought and trashed like in an ordinary-whatever-let's do a sequel-movie.

My point here is that the Star Wars Universe stands for loyalty, greatness, epic. That is what the Force, the Jedi represent. Even the anti-heroes like Darth Vader are a match for the Epic we so much love about. So that's what I'm waiting to see in a Star Wars movie. I want to witness Epicness, not petty wrongdoers.

I'm still waiting for the next Star Wars. One in which the legends, the values, the Jedi are respected.