Koch Brothers Exposed

i've seen the same sort of thing come out of the right. makes many claims and assumptions; provides no proof of anything. mindless dribble that will only pour fuel on the fire. tailored toward the unthinking masses yet highly unlikely to spur them to action. jumps around from one thing to the next. no continuity.

i wouldn't say that it flat out tells lies, but it doesn't make it easy for a thinking person to believe any of it, despite how much they might want to believe it. we the people must be better than this if we are truly to overcome the powerful influences of money. then again, sometimes it is easier to just start bashing and throwing things.

the irony is that the same people who would be offended/angered by this film would probably eat up the same type of garbage which supports their own way of thinking. in either case, nobody is really looking to find out the truth and nobody cares about doing what is right, except in their own eyes.

...and that is precisely why humanity is doomed.

I'm familiar with Greenwald's work and this is the second "documentary" of his I've seen. While it's been some time since I viewed, "Wal-Mart, The High Cost of Low Prices", this investigation of the elusive Koch brothers has little balance in presentation. Regardless of whatever the Kochs are accused of, there is no side of their argument presented whatsoever. Barring this, there is little historical evidence to base the Koch's alleged political motivations. What is presented, and clearly there's evidence there, is done so snarky that it is embarrassing. Hiring a voice actor to portray a Koch gives the film its sole comedic moment, but this hardly serves us and puts pressure on Scott Walker, not the Kochs. All we have to go on is the motivations of father Fred Koch, who in turn informs the brothers' industrial / political adventures, and even this evidence has an air of hearsay. Little is said of and by lesser-known and assumed estranged brother William, who could have shed much more light on his brothers' activities. Despite the obvious rift between the brothers as documented in the film, this Koch brother seems to have aspirations not far removed from his more noteworthy siblings. Attempts to get the Kochs themselves to defend themselves before the camera comes off as a dumb stunt relegated to the end credits.

Therefore, if you prefer one-sided character assassinations, go for this one. Me, I prefer a balanced approach that rewards the viewer with a richer understanding of whatever the subject is and how it seems to influence our lives. With much of the content existing in "... Exposed" intact and more of the Koch's side of the equation delved into we'd get a far more satisfying, true documentary. This video screams "shockumentary" that poisons the art and form of documentary filmmaking.

Pros: Short'n'Sweet; preaches to the choir, if you like this sort of thing; an investigation into the Kochs is warranted, but;

Cons: this ain't it. One-sided echo chamber it accuses the Koch machine of; asks us to follow the money - examples? Not enough historical reference or insiders to give us a fuller understanding of Koch motivations; too short and far incomplete

Net: Unconvincing argument to accuse the Kochs of being active democratic subversives

Disclaimer: Not a Koch follower or supporter, I simply wished to know about these guys, wanted a documentary and got a butter sandwich instead. There's plenty of Koch-type characters to go around today, who are they, what makes them tick?

You know that something smells fishy when you start seeing people who didn't rate anything else EVER giving this movie 1 star. People who don't even bother creating a profile here. How strange that the only people doing it so and ranting about it are these unknown characters that came out of nowhere and disappeared the same way.

Allow me to review this film, in a first step, by focusing on the strange negative comments these suspicious people left.

Like the one tiled "this movie lowered the IQ in the room", whose author states "(...) perfect example of how people who know nothing, (...), can be easily manipulated (...). In order to rate this movie above a 1, you would have to have a similar I.Q." I guess those people would have IQs in the range of the 130s, since that's where I stand and I'm giving it a 10.

In a different comment, we read "(...) you will spend most of the following day restocking your booze supply after having angrily consumed it all attempting to finish the thing". I suppose this is the I.Q. type the other individual refers to and identifies with. I'm glad I'm not part of them so.

Finally, we find in yet another example of absurd comments: "The film talks about Koch Industries being a "major polluter", but it doesn't talk about what they produce,(...) like describing Shakespeare as a major waste of paper, or Mozart as a major polluter of silence! (...) Koch Industries produce products that are used by hundreds of millions of people,(...) they donate billions of dollars to medical research (...) who needs science when you already have an angry mob?". Holy cow! Now we are comparing a couple of eco-terrorists (in the true meaning of the word, not that definition the government wants to brainwash citizens with), bribers and manipulators to Shakespeare and Mozart! This reviewer simply decides to ignore the truth and believe that, if millions of people want to waste resources given by a bunch of industries destroying their very home planet, there cannot be anything wrong with it. After all, so many people cannot be wrong... The only reason for which they give money to cancer research is because, at least one of them, is dying of cancer! And god forbid if it's a research free of wasted resources or animal suffering (including great apes). The more pain these brothers can cause the better. The final touch is given by that sentence about science and an angry mob... How ridiculous is to defend lies with science, when all the brothers do is against reason and common sense. Anyone defending the destruction of life for profit is fighting rational thought and, therefore, science.

Alas, I'm not a political person, rather anti-political, so terms like libertarian, socialist, conservative, etc. don't say much to me. What it does speak volumes to me is action. And these brothers' agenda says it all. They want free market, meaning more power to the already powerful. Because they are part of it and, therefore, get something from it. And they are pushing it into schools (reminds me of the same tactics used by those claiming an "intelligent design" and denying evolution). They lobby for oil, gas and chemical industries. No surprise, they are also getting money from it. Who cares about the planet when you can put some millions in your pocket? Climate change? Yeah, right!

The Koch brothers are oil suckers, earth destroyers, tea party puppets. We are talking about people who paid more than $400 million in fines, penalties and judgments from 1999 to 2003 for environmental and safety related issues. People who illegally discharge crude oil and petroleum products and get the largest civil fine ever imposed on a company under any federal environmental law. These are people who don't and won't give a damn about you, me or our home, Planet Earth, as long as they have a dollar to put in their pocket, and they will continue to lie, manipulate and hurt in order to achieve their goals. Because these people base their fortune in the destruction of life, the extermination of the lower classes, and the consummation of their orgasmic, twisted, apocalyptic fantasies.

As a final statement, I will just point out how absurd it is for people to criticize this film because it shows what the Koch brothers do, without wanting to put itself in their shoes. To those complaining about this, let me ask: if this movie was about a rapist, or a pedophile, would you also want to know how great he feels about it, or a number of reasons why he enjoys it so much, even when those reasons are irrational? Would you also complain about the fact that the film doesn't show all its sources when they are widely known and readily available for anybody interested in them? Would they want the movie to sympathise with the children molester and tell the supposedly good deeds he did like opening a kindergarten or giving private lessons to kids, even when those were just a way to achieve his disturbed pleasures? The Koch brothers are, simply, evil. There's no reason to try to defend them unless you are like them. Like pedophiles, they do what they do for their personal gain, and there's no reason to try to defend what it's not logically defensible. You don't do a movie about a heartless pedophile who enjoys torturing children in order to try to put the public on the side of his perverse mentality. You just show the evil he does so people mobilize to try to stop it. This documentary does the same. No need for arguments nor numbers when you have right-in-your-face realities.

I don't like the Koch brothers, but this Michael Moore style propaganda mockumentary is so biased and slanted, it's not worthy of any praise. When you try to influence the audience by saying the Koch brothers have bought the government including the Supreme Court by trying to connect some sketchy dots, you've lost all credibility. Sure, power and big money has greatly damaged the respect of our government, but the money comes in from the special interests from all sides. This film unfairly attacks the Republicans without any semblance of balance, in fact all the contributors who comment are far left leaning activists and politicians. If they could have at least mentioned that 98% of all televised media and journalists support democrat policies and candidates, that could have offered a slightly level playing field but no, this effort is 100% activist slant and not worth the time of day.

Robert Greenwald does it again with yet another installment of intellectual filth that clumsily omits the whole truth from each tortured apologue in order to demonize conservatives and peddle another sickly sweet elixir of phony progressive virtue to the noncritical thinkers of the modern university-educated democrat party. Progressivism, as with all forms of collectivism is certainly a mental disorder and Greenwald spares no truth from the cutting room floor that would suggest any alternate conclusion.

What is that mechanism that drives a modern progressive democrat to categorize (classify) each and every person as merely race, gender, and class? Why does the democrat need an 'enemy' (conservative} to accuse of unjustly discriminating against the rightful opportunities of 'classified' individuals? -Answer: A belief that the power of ideas is more important than the value of individual people is a core construct of the progressive democrat just as it was the framework for Marx and Engle's theories (and yes, these destroy the individual and a collectivist society built of destroyed individuals is truly a broken society), while the conservative has always held that the recognition of value of the individual person is the fiber that weaves the strongest society.

Who are the REAL bigots of this age? -Answer: The very same ideological decendents of the bigots and totalitarians who created: ·The Trail of Tears ·Slavery ·Segregation ·Jim Crowe Laws ·the Klu Klux Klan ·Lynching ·Blocking The Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s This is simply the historical truth of the democrat party USA.

"Come on people now, smile on your brothers (let's see everyone as a group) Everybody get together (make certain everyone is of the SAME group) Gotta love one another right now" (to be loved you MUST be a member of this group and then everything will be good) ...There is your revolution