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That Was Then... This Is Now (1985)

Two juvenile delinquents find themselves growing apart, for one is growing up, and the other is staying young and reckless.

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Christopher Cain

Writers:

S.E. Hinton (novel), Emilio Estevez (screenplay)

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Cast

Cast overview, first billed only:
Emilio Estevez ... Mark Jennings
Craig Sheffer ... Bryon Douglas
Larry B. Scott ... Terry Jones
Matthew Dudley Matthew Dudley ... Curly Shepard
Jill Schoelen ... Angela Shepard
Kim Delaney ... Cathy Carlson
Barbara Babcock ... Mrs. Douglas
Frank Howard ... M & M Carlson
Morgan Freeman ... Charlie Woods
Francis X. McCarthy ... Mr. Carlson (as Frank McCarthy)
Diane Dorsey Diane Dorsey ... Mrs. Carlson
Ramon Estevez ... Mike Chambers (as Ramon Sheen)
David Miller David Miller ... Punk
Steven Pringle Steven Pringle ... Dirty Dave
Robert Swan ... Smitty (as Bob Swan)
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Storyline

A delinquent teenager's only link to society is the attachment he feels towards an older brother-figure. When the older boy starts spending time with a new girlfriend, the teenager begins to feel even more alienated, and gets involved with drugs and the police. Written by Cynan Rees <cynanrees@hotmail.com>

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From the Author of "The Outsiders" and "Rumble Fish" See more »

Genres:

Crime | Drama

Certificate:

R | See all certifications »

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Country:

USA

Language:

English

Release Date:

8 November 1985 (USA) See more »

Also Known As:

A Força da Inocência See more »

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Box Office

Opening Weekend USA:

$2,502,780, 10 November 1985, Wide Release

Gross USA:

$8,630,068
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Sound Mix:

Dolby

Color:

Color (TVC)

Aspect Ratio:

1.85 : 1
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Trivia

According to her website, this is the only film adaption of her book, in which author S.E. Hinton was not directly involved. See more »

Goofs

In just about every scene where a bus is involved, it's bus #461. See more »

Quotes

Mark Jennings: Let's move out... Teabag!
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Connections

References Tex (1982) See more »

Soundtracks

Rap Song
Lyrics by Larry B. Scott
Music by Keith Olsen & Bill Cuomo
Performed by Larry B. Scott
Produced by Keith Olsen & Bill Cuomo
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The most mediocre of the S.E. Hinton-based adaptations. (spoilers)
12 December 2004 | by vertigo_14See all my reviews

I always loved S.E. Hinton's novels as a kid: The Outsiders, Rumble Fish (which in my opinion, is the greatest film adaptation in the series despite everyone's fascination with The Outsiders), Tex, and That Was Then This is Now.

'That Was Then, This is Now' was the last film adaptation (although the TV series for 'The Outsiders' follows five years later after the release of this movie). I would've attribute the mediocrity of the movie, or at least the inability to really put forth all that the novel did, was because it was not directed by Francis Ford Coppola (who directs 'The Outsiders,' and does a fabulous job with 'Rumble Fish'), except 'Tex,' which was a pretty good movie, was likewise not directed by Coppola.

I think it is in part the chemistry among the characters. The whole mood looks like something out of a music video, with Craig Scheffer coming off more like a guy who broke off a long relationship with a girlfriend rather than dealing with a rambunctious brother (in addition to other things). Plus, as another viewer already mentioned, they shifted the focus on characters so that superstar Emilio Esteves becomes the center of attention. Most of S.E. Hinton's novel always portrayed a struggle from the brother who is looking out at things that, by his perception, have become (or always were) seriously out of control. (See 'Tex' and 'Rumble Fish'). And yes, they unfortunately acquiesced to the Hollywood happy ending, and in the sappiest way, despite all of the problems that the characters endure.

Unlike previous adaptations of Hinton's novels, even those not directed by Coppola, they really fail to portray the struggles that the characters realize in the book. And, lack of developing the story on this point really makes you only half appreciate the characters and their conflicts (and in this case, not even their resolution).


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