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That Was Then... This Is Now

  • 1985
  • K-14
  • 1h 42m
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6.1/10
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That Was Then... This Is Now (1985)
Two juvenile delinquents find themselves growing apart, for one is growing up, and the other is staying young and reckless.
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Two juvenile delinquents find themselves growing apart, for one is growing up, and the other is staying young and reckless.Two juvenile delinquents find themselves growing apart, for one is growing up, and the other is staying young and reckless.Two juvenile delinquents find themselves growing apart, for one is growing up, and the other is staying young and reckless.

  • Director
    • Christopher Cain
  • Writers
    • S.E. Hinton
    • Emilio Estevez
  • Stars
    • Emilio Estevez
    • Craig Sheffer
    • Larry B. Scott
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  • IMDb RATING
    6.1/10
    2.6K
    YOUR RATING
    • Director
      • Christopher Cain
    • Writers
      • S.E. Hinton
      • Emilio Estevez
    • Stars
      • Emilio Estevez
      • Craig Sheffer
      • Larry B. Scott
    • 33User reviews
    • 8Critic reviews
    • 45Metascore
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    Emilio Estevez in That Was Then... This Is Now (1985)
    Emilio Estevez, Kim Delaney, Craig Sheffer, Frank Howard, Jill Schoelen, and Larry B. Scott in That Was Then... This Is Now (1985)
    Emilio Estevez, Craig Sheffer, and Christopher Cain in That Was Then... This Is Now (1985)
    Emilio Estevez and Craig Sheffer in That Was Then... This Is Now (1985)
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    Emilio Estevez
    Emilio Estevez
    • Mark Jennings
    Craig Sheffer
    Craig Sheffer
    • Bryon Douglas
    Larry B. Scott
    Larry B. Scott
    • Terry Jones
    Matthew Dudley
    • Curly Shepard
    Jill Schoelen
    Jill Schoelen
    • Angela Shepard
    Kim Delaney
    Kim Delaney
    • Cathy Carlson
    Barbara Babcock
    Barbara Babcock
    • Mrs. Douglas
    Frank Howard
    Frank Howard
    • M & M Carlson
    Morgan Freeman
    Morgan Freeman
    • Charlie Woods
    Francis X. McCarthy
    Francis X. McCarthy
    • Mr. Carlson
    • (as Frank McCarthy)
    Diane Dorsey
    • Mrs. Carlson
    Ramon Estevez
    Ramon Estevez
    • Mike Chambers
    • (as Ramon Sheen)
    David Miller
    • Punk
    Steven Pringle
    • Dirty Dave
    Robert Swan
    Robert Swan
    • Smitty
    • (as Bob Swan)
    John O'Brien
    • Snob
    Paul M. Lane
    Paul M. Lane
    • Paul
    • (as Paul Lane)
    Brooks Gardner
    Brooks Gardner
    • Tim Shepard
    • Director
      • Christopher Cain
    • Writers
      • S.E. Hinton
      • Emilio Estevez
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    • Trivia
      Emilio Estevez's original script followed the book's ending more closely. Paramount Pictures executives forced Estevez to re-write the ending to be more "optimistic" and "realistic".
    • Goofs
      In just about every scene where a bus is involved, it's bus #461.
    • Quotes

      Mark Jennings: Let's move out... Teabag!

    • Connections
      Referenced in Times Square, New York (1986)
    • Soundtracks
      Born Alone
      Written by Scott Lipsker & Mike Kapitan

      Performed by Kipp Lennon

      Produced by Scott Lipsker & Mike Kapitan

    User reviews33

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    5/10
    The most mediocre of the S.E. Hinton-based adaptations. (spoilers)
    I always loved S.E. Hinton's novels as a kid: The Outsiders, Rumble Fish (which in my opinion, is the greatest film adaptation in the series despite everyone's fascination with The Outsiders), Tex, and That Was Then This is Now.

    'That Was Then, This is Now' was the last film adaptation (although the TV series for 'The Outsiders' follows five years later after the release of this movie). I would've attribute the mediocrity of the movie, or at least the inability to really put forth all that the novel did, was because it was not directed by Francis Ford Coppola (who directs 'The Outsiders,' and does a fabulous job with 'Rumble Fish'), except 'Tex,' which was a pretty good movie, was likewise not directed by Coppola.

    I think it is in part the chemistry among the characters. The whole mood looks like something out of a music video, with Craig Scheffer coming off more like a guy who broke off a long relationship with a girlfriend rather than dealing with a rambunctious brother (in addition to other things). Plus, as another viewer already mentioned, they shifted the focus on characters so that superstar Emilio Esteves becomes the center of attention. Most of S.E. Hinton's novel always portrayed a struggle from the brother who is looking out at things that, by his perception, have become (or always were) seriously out of control. (See 'Tex' and 'Rumble Fish'). And yes, they unfortunately acquiesced to the Hollywood happy ending, and in the sappiest way, despite all of the problems that the characters endure.

    Unlike previous adaptations of Hinton's novels, even those not directed by Coppola, they really fail to portray the struggles that the characters realize in the book. And, lack of developing the story on this point really makes you only half appreciate the characters and their conflicts (and in this case, not even their resolution).
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    • Release date
      • July 25, 1986 (Finland)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Language
      • English
    • Also known as
      • Asfaltti viidakko
    • Filming locations
      • Spanky's Saloon - 1066 7th St East - St. Paul, Minnesota, USA
    • Production companies
      • Media Ventures
      • Paramount Pictures
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    Box office

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    • Gross US & Canada
      • $8,630,068
    • Opening weekend US & Canada
      • $2,502,780
      • Nov 10, 1985
    • Gross worldwide
      • $8,630,068
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    Technical specs

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    • Runtime
      1 hour 42 minutes
    • Sound mix
      • Dolby
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.85 : 1

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