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Kohtalo kiskoilla - meidän historiamme

Original title: Notre histoire
  • 19841984
  • 1h 50m
IMDb RATING
6.4/10
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Nathalie Baye and Alain Delon in Kohtalo kiskoilla - meidän historiamme (1984)
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A desperate alcoholic reaches a turning-point in his life when he meets a strange woman in a railway carriage: they make love, but then she leaves. Chasing after the girl, he clings to her a... Read allA desperate alcoholic reaches a turning-point in his life when he meets a strange woman in a railway carriage: they make love, but then she leaves. Chasing after the girl, he clings to her as if she were his final chance.A desperate alcoholic reaches a turning-point in his life when he meets a strange woman in a railway carriage: they make love, but then she leaves. Chasing after the girl, he clings to her as if she were his final chance.
IMDb RATING
6.4/10
1K
YOUR RATING
POPULARITY
47,142
9,146
  • Director
    • Bertrand Blier
  • Writer
    • Bertrand Blier
  • Stars
    • Alain Delon
    • Nathalie Baye
    • Gérard Darmon
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  • Director
    • Bertrand Blier
  • Writer
    • Bertrand Blier
  • Stars
    • Alain Delon
    • Nathalie Baye
    • Gérard Darmon
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    • 7User reviews
    • 6Critic reviews
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    • Awards
      • 2 wins & 3 nominations

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    Alain Delon in Kohtalo kiskoilla - meidän historiamme (1984)
    Nathalie Baye and Alain Delon in Kohtalo kiskoilla - meidän historiamme (1984)
    Kohtalo kiskoilla - meidän historiamme (1984)
    Nathalie Baye in Kohtalo kiskoilla - meidän historiamme (1984)
    Alain Delon, Geneviève Fontanel, and Michel Galabru in Kohtalo kiskoilla - meidän historiamme (1984)
    Nathalie Baye and Alain Delon in Kohtalo kiskoilla - meidän historiamme (1984)
    Kohtalo kiskoilla - meidän historiamme (1984)
    Kohtalo kiskoilla - meidän historiamme (1984)

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    Alain Delon
    Alain Delon
    • Robert Avranche
    Nathalie Baye
    Nathalie Baye
    • Donatienne Pouget…
    Gérard Darmon
    Gérard Darmon
    • Duval
    Geneviève Fontanel
    Geneviève Fontanel
    • Madeleine Pecqueur
    Jean-Pierre Darroussin
    Jean-Pierre Darroussin
    • The second passenger
    Sabine Haudepin
    Sabine Haudepin
    • Carmen
    Jean-François Stévenin
    • Chatelard
    Ginette Garcin
    Ginette Garcin
    • The florist
    Michel Galabru
    Michel Galabru
    • Emile Pecqueur
    Philippe Laudenbach
    Philippe Laudenbach
    • Sam
    Paul Guers
    Paul Guers
    • Clark
    Jean-Louis Foulquier
    • Bob
    Jacques Pisias
    • Fred
    • (as Firmin)
    Vincent Lindon
    Vincent Lindon
    • Brechet
    Norbert Letheule
    • Paraiso
    Bernard Farcy
    Bernard Farcy
    • Farid
    Pierre Le Rumeur
    Michel Peyrelon
    • A neighbour
    • Director
      • Bertrand Blier
    • Writer
      • Bertrand Blier
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    • Connections
      Edited into Histoire(s) du cinéma: Une histoire seule (1989)
    • Soundtracks
      Concerto for Two Pianos and Orchestra
      Music by Bohuslav Martinu

    User reviews7

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    7/10
    A surreal twist on marriage!
    Please don't get me wrong - I like this movie. It is pure 80's French romantic cinema, has two excellent leads, and like the Flic flicks of the time, has relevant modern themes. It is, however, deeply flawed.

    "Notre Histoire" is a classic example of a movie in which an established director carries out all the mistakes he should have shaken off at film school. For instance, Blier is the only director I know who doesn't know how to use music effectively - music is just slotted in at random points, and very unsuitable points at that.

    Like a lot of Blier's work, this is a film of confusion, alternative reality and twisted takes on what we call normal life. Its' characters change persona, distance becomes meaningless, relationships blur - yet the film's final few seconds puts everything - and I do mean EVERYTHING - into sharp context.

    Essentially, this is a vehicle for Alain Delon, but it's nowhere in the same league as Le Samourai. It's Delon - the King of 60s Cool - playing Robert, a middle-aged man in crisis; yes, playing against type! His marriage is on the rocks, but being Delon, he attracts the attention of wayward young mother Donatienne (Baye). After a fleeting assignation on an SNCF train, Robert won't let go. Donatienne is the woman for him, and he won't give her up! To hell with the marriage, the job, the house, the normal life - let's be reckless!

    What follows is a series of surreal set pieces taking Robert from fascination to obsession to the spiritual nature of beer. The surreal nature of the film does throw up some problems as times. The objectification of women for instance; women are displayed as problematic objects for men; inconveniences that get in the way of a good Gallic life. Even Nathalie Baye herself is portrayed as a hooker, wife, mother, teacher and adulteress in many episodes of the tale.

    However, the leads are wonderful - Delon gives it his seedy, confused best, whilst Baye (in my mind the most underrated French actress of her generation) gives a wonderful weak/strong performance as the many faces of Donatienne.

    Yes, this is a surreal love story. Yes, this is so Gallic it could not be remade in English. Yes, it isn't perfect, but it's an excellent example of a purely French cinema that is simply too homegrown to be appreciated by a wider audience.
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    • Apr 24, 2001

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    • Release date
      • May 16, 1984 (France)
    • Country of origin
      • France
    • Language
      • French
    • Also known as
      • Our History
    • Filming locations
      • Cluses, Haute-Savoie, France
    • Production companies
      • Adel Productions
      • Films A2
      • Sara Films
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    • Runtime
      1 hour 50 minutes
    • Color
      • Color
    • Sound mix
      • Mono
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.66 : 1

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