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Syyskuinen romanssi

Original title: September Affair
  • 19501950
  • SS
  • 1h 44m
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6.8/10
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Syyskuinen romanssi (1950)
DramaRomance
An industrialist and a pianist who fall in love in postwar Italy are pronounced dead when they miss their flight home, but the former's wife does not give him up.An industrialist and a pianist who fall in love in postwar Italy are pronounced dead when they miss their flight home, but the former's wife does not give him up.An industrialist and a pianist who fall in love in postwar Italy are pronounced dead when they miss their flight home, but the former's wife does not give him up.
IMDb RATING
6.8/10
930
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  • Director
    • William Dieterle
  • Writers
    • Ben Hecht(uncredited)
    • Fritz Rotter(story)
    • Andrew Solt(screenplay)
  • Stars
    • Joan Fontaine
    • Joseph Cotten
    • Françoise Rosay
  • Director
    • William Dieterle
  • Writers
    • Ben Hecht(uncredited)
    • Fritz Rotter(story)
    • Andrew Solt(screenplay)
  • Stars
    • Joan Fontaine
    • Joseph Cotten
    • Françoise Rosay
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    • 28User reviews
    • 3Critic reviews
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    • Awards
      • 1 win & 1 nomination

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    Joan Fontaine and Joseph Cotten in Syyskuinen romanssi (1950)
    Joan Fontaine and Joseph Cotten in Syyskuinen romanssi (1950)
    Joan Fontaine and Joseph Cotten in Syyskuinen romanssi (1950)
    Joan Fontaine and Joseph Cotten in Syyskuinen romanssi (1950)
    Joan Fontaine and Joseph Cotten in Syyskuinen romanssi (1950)
    Jessica Tandy in Syyskuinen romanssi (1950)
    Joan Fontaine and Joseph Cotten in Syyskuinen romanssi (1950)
    Joan Fontaine and Joseph Cotten in Syyskuinen romanssi (1950)
    Syyskuinen romanssi (1950)
    Syyskuinen romanssi (1950)
    Joan Fontaine and Joseph Cotten in Syyskuinen romanssi (1950)
    Joan Fontaine, Joseph Cotten, and Iphigenie Castiglioni in Syyskuinen romanssi (1950)

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    Joan Fontaine
    Joan Fontaine
    • Marianne 'Manina' Stuart
    Joseph Cotten
    Joseph Cotten
    • David Lawrence
    Françoise Rosay
    Françoise Rosay
    • Maria Salvatini
    Jessica Tandy
    Jessica Tandy
    • Catherine Lawrence
    Robert Arthur
    Robert Arthur
    • David Lawrence Jr
    Jimmy Lydon
    Jimmy Lydon
    • Johnny Wilson
    Fortunio Bonanova
    Fortunio Bonanova
    • Grazzi
    Grazia Narciso
    • Bianca
    Anna Demetrio
    Anna Demetrio
    • Rosita
    Lou Steele
    • Vittorio Portini
    Frank Yaconelli
    • Mr. Peppino
    Larry Arnold
    • Italian Waiter
    • (uncredited)
    Lorenzo Belmuda
    • Rinaldo
    • (uncredited)
    Dino Bolognese
    • Flower Vendor
    • (uncredited)
    Nick Borgani
    • Italian Workman
    • (uncredited)
    Enrico Caruso
    Enrico Caruso
    • Self - Vocalist
    • (archive sound)
    • (voice)
    • (uncredited)
    Iphigenie Castiglioni
    • Maid
    • (uncredited)
    Harry Cheshire
    Harry Cheshire
    • Jim
    • (uncredited)
    • Director
      • William Dieterle
    • Writers
      • Ben Hecht(uncredited)
      • Fritz Rotter(story)
      • Andrew Solt(screenplay) (uncredited)
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    • Trivia
      This was the earliest American film to feature extensive location work in Italy involving the principal actors. Whilst filming, Joseph Cotten was invited to lunch by his old friend Orson Welles, who confided that he had also invited a couple of Italian businessmen whom he wanted to invest in his film version of "Othello". The presence of a film star would, Welles hoped, influence them to put up some money. Also in the restaurant was Sir Winston Churchill, whom Welles hailed most affectionately as he walked past. He later admitted to Cotten that he and Churchill had never previously met, but that he was hoping that this, too, would impress the Italians. His strategies worked; they agreed over lunch to help finance Welles's film, and Cotten and his co-star Joan Fontaine even played uncredited cameos in "Othello" whilst they were still filming "September Affair".
    • Goofs
      Right after David Lawrence Jr says to Marianne 'Manina' Stuart, "We weren't sure that Madame Salvatini would forward it to him.", the street scene out the window behind them skips, revealing a projected film loop starting over again.
    • Quotes

      Jim: There's no vacation for decency.

    • Connections
      Featured in Down Came a Blackbird (1995)
    • Soundtracks
      September Song
      from "Knickerbocker Holiday"

      Music by Kurt Weill

      Lyrics by Maxwell Anderson

      Sung by Walter Huston

    User reviews28

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    6/10
    Dodsworth in a Parallel Universe
    Eerily similar in storyline and backdrop to William Wyler's 1936 masterpiece, Dodsworth. It's not so much the script or the direction that doom this film, it's the premise and its execution. Don't get me wrong; I like the film. However, it could have been much better. As other reviewers stated, the actors, their chemistry were excellent. It's the character development that's faulty.

    Whereas in Dodsworth the triangle is played out logically, along the lines of solid character development so that the hero ends up in Naples with the other woman; in September Affair (1950), love takes a back seat to 1950's morality, or "family values" which state that if you sin, you must pay.

    To represent this on the screen, the screenwriter uses the deus ex machina device of having the wife morph from shrew to martyr, not by showing us, as a film should do, but by telling us, in a letter no less, that she won't agree to a divorce. But when we actually see her, she doesn't seem all that bad a person. She's not like the woman in the letter and she's not the woman Cotten makes her out to be. With Ruth Chatterton (star of Dodsworth), the character development progressed faultlessly. In September Affair, the wife's character arc is unbelievable. Which is she? A shrew or a noble, long-suffering wife? If the latter, the film couldn't end with Joseph Cotten walking away from that sort of woman. He would have lost favor with the audience.

    That means forcing credibility to depend on us buying the unbelievable character arc of the wife who somehow morphs from meanie to martyr.

    He goes back to his wife and I'll bet the first thing she does is revert to her original persona (you can't escape that easily) — her Ruth Chatterton ways, emasculating Cotten out of spite, and he'll end up with no way back to the woman he loves, who loves him because she's also foolishly played the martyr to the point of NO return.

    The film is a cop out. No film should hinge on the changes in a minor character; it should be the leads whose actions set the course. In fact, the ending even goes against common sense:

    1) the wife's new persona has accepted the split, so has the son. That he's alive is enough for her.

    2) As for Joan, he loves her and Joan loves him. They've taken it to another level — like John Huston and Mary Astor in Dodsworth, a level the wife can't understand. They are clearly superior in their maturity, their lifestyles, their tastes.

    Why not let them fade into the Florence sunset together, she with her piano, him with his engineering projects?
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    • jjsemple
    • Jul 23, 2012

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    • Release date
      • August 31, 1951 (Finland)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Languages
      • English
      • Italian
    • Also known as
      • September Affair
    • Filming locations
      • Isle of Capri, Naples, Campania, Italy
    • Production company
      • Hal Wallis Productions
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    • Runtime
      1 hour 44 minutes
    • Color
      • Black and White
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.37 : 1

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