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The camera is there, so there is interaction. There is always a performance. I don't believe in absolute reality. I want to use the language of film in order to transform that into something else. What I film is real; it's there, it's not written. They are not actors, but they are performing. Once you put yourself in front of the camera, no matter what, you change. 
Member of the 'Official Competition' jury at the 71st Berlin International Film Festival in 2021.