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8/10
A show about an uncomfortable subject which gives a human face to the issues we face today
azanti002925 August 2017
Okay perhaps something of a wake-up call is needed for the people who wrote the scathing entirely undeserved one-star reviews of this show, out of, it would seem, hatred for any attempt to show sympathy for the characters portrayed here - I will take something of a more pragmatic approach to the material.

Jumping straight in at the deep end 'The State' introduces us to four young characters as they travel from the west to Syria, each with their own delusions about what it will mean to join Islamic State and build the new state of Syria. There's young Doctor and single Mother, Shakira (Ony Uhiara - brilliant) Jalal (Sam Otto - outstanding) whose brother joined prior to him and was killed in action, who wants to fight the enemy along with his childhood friend Ziyaad (Ryan McKen) and finally Ushna (an excellent debut from Shavani Cameron)who hopes to be a 'lioness among lions' but still hates to use a shared toilet. So it is on the front lines of the fighting in Syria that these four characters find themselves. The women are taken to the female compound run by the pious hands of westerner Umm Walid (Jessica Gunning, suitably patronising in the role) While the men are trained to kill and assigned combat duty, meeting other westerners who have come to join the fight. So it is that we follow the course of their lives and the people they meet over a few short weeks.

I find comments elsewhere about this shows attempts to sympathise with these young people rather vacuous and missing the point of the show entirely - There is little sympathy to be found for our leading protagonists here. We do not, for one thing, know why they came to join with perhaps the exception of Jalal. An advert for recruitment to ISIS, this show IS NOT. The threat of rape for the female characters is constant throughout the story while the men are sent into near suicide combat missions, being told a glorious death awaits them. This is a story about four people who were naively drawn into a cause, the reality of which they didn't fully comprehend until they were standing in the middle of it. Where the show is it's strongest is with the Shakira / Jalal story lines and this is as much down to the performance by the actors, as it is about the script. Casting Director Nina Gold has assembled an impressive and convincing cast here, with the stand out performance being that of Sam Otto. His inner conflict and doubt is precisely stated with just the odd look and glance, while Ony Uhiara, as the Doctor who finds she is increasingly marginalised realises her son is being turned into a killer before her very eyes, plays her growing doubt with great conviction. Special mention here must also go to child actor Nana Agyeman-Bediako who is fantastic as her son. A number of the supporting cast are extremely good as well, having cast a number of people who speak perfect Arabic. Karim Kassem is especially good as the local ISIS leader, who haunts Shakira's every move while Jack Greenless stands out as an ex-western soldier in a very under written role. Haaz Sleiman, Fayez Bakhsh and Hiam Abbass all make their mark in the story and deserve a mention.

What 'The State' does, is Humanise the characters it portrays. We can probably all remember a time once where some of us were naively influenced by a political movement at the time, be that CND or protesting against perfume being used on monkeys. This is a story about that time in our youth, where we were impressionable, we could make a mistake and suddenly we find ourselves growing up very fast. The experience these people went through felt authentic and that is important because nothing shown here would in my view ever encourage a person to take the same journey. Schools would do well to show this series to their students.

For me, there was one thing that was missing from the show. I felt it would have benefited from another episode prior to episode one which demonstrated how each person was drawn into this cause. The producers felt it was enough to show that they are, which is, of course, the reality but f we don't understand what draws people to a cause like this, how are we ever going to understand it?
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8/10
interesting drama about British citizens joining ISIS
jpdhadfield25 August 2017
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Many of the negative reviews of this film, complain it wasn't graphic enough,it was on channel four, public broadcast television, not cable or in the cinema, so their are strict rules on what can or cannot be shown, I think they did a good job, of showing exactly how awful ISIS really are, And how living in that society would be impossible for sane people. the four protagonists were naive in joining, which is shown with one of them bringing a pink wheeled suitcase in stead of a black backpack.I think it was well paced,.dealt with each character equally, i never felt sorry for any of them, but i could see the predicament they were in. There was quite a lot of inferred violence which was enough, there was no need for slasher style violence, a la game of thrones,as other reviewers seemed to want,this film may go along way to deterring other fools from joining. There really haven't been enough programs or films about this subject, hopefully more will follow this
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6/10
People only believe what they want to believe.
emuir-129 October 2017
Those who low rated this TV series and called it preposterous, alleging that intelligent people who have heard about ISIS crimes via the media would not naively go to Syria to join the Jihad, completely missed the point, which is that people believe what they want to believe and shut out anything which does not fit their belief. If this was not so, there would be no major religions and no one would smoke cigarettes or drive drunk.

Who in their right mind would believe in a heaven somewhere up in the clouds with pearly gates guarded by golden haired angels, or that a destructive evil named Satan ruled over an everlasting fiery pit. There are those in the Southern US who firmly believe that the Bible was written in English by Jesus Christ, and that Jesus was a blue eyed Anglo Saxon. If people can believe that the world was created in six days 6,000 years ago, that a savior was born to a virgin and after his death he rose again for 40 days, despite all the evidence to the contrary, they will believe anything.

Many otherwise intelligent people firmly believe in the lost continent of Atlantis, others that all the ancient ruins such as the pyramids and the temples of Central America were built by aliens as if ancient humans were not able to work things out for themselves. It is the same with those who run off to join the Jihad. Some are impressionable youths, but as in the case of Shakira, others might actually believe they are going to do good. They have closed their minds to whatever challenges their belief or brainwashing. Just as we had fanatical religious martyrs in the past dying for their faith, we now have martyrs dying for the Islamic faith. The fanatical Christians were created saints and venerated for their beliefs, so were hermits, monks and nuns who lived in severe hardship and discomfort and spent their days praying.

I did find some of the characters acted stupidly, but had they not been a little on the naive side they would never have gone to Syria in the first place. I certainly did not find the series a recruitment tool for ISIS as some viewers and reviewers seemed to. More like Reefer Madness being a considered a deterrent for marijuana use.
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9/10
Totally Worth It!
tylergagerd24 September 2017
I am amazed at the scathing reviews of 'The State'.

Trust me, as a man who has been on the front lines against daesh in Iraq, this is worth the watch. I think this show did an amazing job of showing the realities of living under a daesh state of power. All while doing it without crossing the line and keeping it clean enough for a younger audience. As someone who has actually been there, it is mind-blowing to me that this show is portrayed by other reviewers as wishing to be sympathetic to the recruits. It shows the brutal reality which those in areas under daesh rule face.

This show does an amazing job of captivating while educating on the beliefs of daesh and their twisted views of Islam. I am very disappointed in seeing how the masses received this show and hope it doesn't lead to Nat Geo closing the books permanently on the mini-series.
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6/10
Difficult to watch
chadandnola124 September 2017
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As a US Navy veteran, political junkie, and consumer of books written by those whom look to reform Islam. Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a woman I respect and cried with while reading through her three books.

This show may reflect the internal dialog of those who choose to follow this pathetic path, it also shows an arrogance and ignorance of the westerners that decided to create this story. A female doctor who brings her young son with her to ISIS controlled territory. She admits she knows gay men are thrown from roofs, women are taken into slavery, and children are trained to be killers. She continues on her worthless path as she's treated like a goat, pushed and shoved around, has her feet beaten bloody, is asked to use non-muslims as human organ donaters. She hits her limits when her son takes visits to chop chop square, learns to play football with a human head, then decides to run when her life is threatened. Only to go back to Europe and aggressively defend her mistake as simply a mistake anybody could make, and now that she came back wants to still have custody of her child. Give me a break.
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9/10
Excellent portrayal of how people can be "sucked in" to terror
corek-2431023 August 2017
Story of 4 Brits going out to Syria to support IS state in the overthrow of the Syrian regime. As the majority of British Moslems are Sunni and IS state supports the Sunni Muslims against the Shia followers, it doesn't take much effort for Sunni Muslims in Britain to go and support their fellow believers in Syria. The series pulls no punches of the brutality of the IS State and shows where it ignores the teachings of Mohammed "for their own ends" thereby corrupting the teachings of Islam. You can see how the four Brits start to slowly realize that the teachings of Islam is not really the main force of the IS leadership, they are looking for power and control and are just using the teachings of Mohammed, to lure the stupid and vulnerable, for their own ends. It shows how decent people are used, against their wishes to be humane, because of a corrupt ideology.
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Utterly false
keithlodge2123 August 2017
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The manner in which this programme tries to win sympathy for the main characters by pretending they were innocent victims who simply didn't know that ISIS sold women into sexual slavery, murdered Shia Muslims, behead people etc, would be laughable if it was not so disgusting.

For example, in episode 3, one of the recruits objects to a slave market as 'rape', while another attempts to 'rescue' the victim by buying her. Both recruits would have known perfectly well that ISIS behaved this way long before joining ISIS - it's all over the media. Similarly, we are supposed to sympathise with a female doctor who is disgusted by the misogyny and violence of ISIS. Unless she had been living in a cave, she would have known precisely what she was signing up for.

Trying to paint these characters as 'victims' for whom we should feel sorry, is evidently a more 'nuanced' approach. If, that is, you are willing to ignore the plain facts about their behaviour. Coming to terms with the fact that such recruits are wilfully complicit in ISIS' crimes is evidently more than some people can cope with.
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7/10
A hard-hitting difficult watch
dougroper-2316815 October 2017
Reading some reviews of The State, it seems some have completely missed the point of this mini-series. Far from glamourising IS this excellent series lays bare the lie that is at the heart of the death cult of Daesh. That lie draws impressionable, idealistic young Muslims across the west into a situation way out of their depth. Some argue that all who join IS know exactly what they are doing, which seems to leave some viewers unable to find anything sympathetic about the four young Brits portrayed here. Frankly, being unable to experience empathy for these characters says more about the person reviewing than it does about the situation itself.

Far from idealising and glamourising IS this remarkable mini-series shows the brutality and evil at the heart of it in a way nothing else I've seen quite does. Several scenes are incredibly difficult to watch, clearly intentionally so, and I found the changes of focus from the young jihadis experiencing the terror of battle and the brutalisation of witnessing torture, to the stories of the women and children equally brutalised and adapting (or not) to an almost alien culture, incredibly compelling.

This was brave television and for the most part well done. I feel it would have benefited from more time given to the ending, as this felt rushed and uncertain, but otherwise an excellent and compelling story.
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10/10
Simply brilliant
sea_goat25 August 2017
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Felt compelled to write a review (when I usually don't) because I couldn't believe how many other reviewers had missed the point of this series.

Four Brits travel to IS full of excitement and anticipation, each is there for a different reason, and one by one they all have to face disillusionment and regret. The whole point of the series is that they each deal with that regret in a completely different way.

It is a work of genius to portray brainwashed characters successfully because their actions do not make sense to viewers who have not been brainwashed themselves. But here they are so well written and acted that you sympathise and empathise with young, idealistic people who have been told not to believe what they've seen on TV or read in newspapers. They have trusted the people who told them that and it's how they act when they realise that trust was misplaced that is the interesting bit.

That these are sympathetic characters is not the issue here. This series is in no way an advert for IS nor does it apologise for anything the caliphate or its followers do. Simply brilliant stuff.
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7/10
Cause + Symptoms (Effects) = Results
dncorp19 September 2017
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Having been involved with "Islamic Nations" since the U.S. Army Special Forces Teams to U.S. Ally Iraq during the Iran Iraq Wars, and CIA Operation Cyclone Pakistan and Afghanistan, there is a lot missing from this reasonably detailed "Dramatization".

Cause "What Caused" the Rise of Today's Islamic State.

Primary Cause(s) A Failure on the part of the U.S. and Western European Nations.

2011 President Obama got the U.S. KICKED OUT OF IRAQ, the Muslim Nation of Iran got the Centuries of Iraqis Oil. Then the Shia of Iraq "Democratically Elected" Government KICKED OUT THE ACTUAL IRAQIS FROM THE IRAQIS GOVERNMENT AND IRAQIS MILITARY.

After the President Obama Overthrow of U.S. Ally President Mubarak of Egypt, the "Islamic Democracy Movement" changed their name to Islamic State Egypt and Islamic State Sinai. After the President Obama Overthrow of U.S. Ally President Gaddaffi of Libya the Islamic Democracy Movement renamed themselves Islamic State Libya, Islamic State Libya as Al Quada's Ansar Al Shariah then attacked U.S. Ally Tunisia, the President Obama Suported Islamic Democracy Movement Tunisia new name Islamic State Tunisia.

At U.S. Ally Syria, Millions of Kurdistanis turned Traitor and started to murder Syrian Military, Syrian Civilians, Russian Federation Civilians, Russian Federation Military that were Co Located at Syrian Military Bases, their Goal to Seize U.S. Ally Syrian Land to form their Muslim Nation of Kurdistan modeled after their Ally the Muslim Nation of Iran. Millions of Kurdistanis from Iraq's Muslim Kurdistanis Autonomous Region go to U.S. Ally Syria to Overthrow U.S. Ally President Assad of Syria, they are joined by the Holy Warriors of Islam.

Because President Obama's U.S. Military Operation Odyssey Dawn Violated U.S. Senate Law, War Powers Resolution of 1973, and U.S. House of Representatives Law, War Powers Act of 1973, President Obama was Required or get Impeached to Request Permission to use U.S. Airstrikes and U.S. Cruise Missile Attacks against U.S. Ally Syria, U.S. Congress Refused, as by Bombing U.S. Ally Syria the large amounts of Syrian Chemical Weapons would have contaminated U.S. Ally Turkey, U.S. Ally Syria, U.S. Ally Iraq, U.S. Ally Israel.

Symptoms (Effects) the Fall and Overthrows of U.S. Allies "Established Governments". U.S. was KICKED OUT OF IRAQ by the Ally of the Muslim Nation of Iran the Millions of Iranians living at Iraq the Shia of Iraq as the "Democratically Elected Government of Iraq, U.S. Ally President Mubarak a U.S. Ally since 1973, U.S. Ally President Gaddaffi of Libya a U.S. Ally since 2006 Overthrown. U.S. Ally President Saleh of Yemen Forced to Resigned, Overthrow of U.S. Ally President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali of Tunisia. Attempted Overthrow of U.S. Ally President Asif Ali Zardari of Pakistan, attempted Overthrow of U.S. and Russian Federation Ally President Assad of Syria a U.S. Ally since 1990.
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1/10
An insult of one's intelligence.
neilanosim26 August 2017
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This mini-series has received a lot of criticism, with good reason it appears after my viewing of this abomination. You can all argue the toss abut how 'evil' the west may or not be, but surely even the extreme leftist, Komminsky, could not make light of ISIS recruits and their motives? Komminsky wants us to believe that British citizens who went out to Syria in 2015 to fight for ISIS were simply misguided as to ISIS's actions. Of course, in 2015 and in the year or two leading up to this, the whole planet watched the news with horror at the mass beheadings on the beach, of the aid workers beheaded live on social media, of the people burned alive in cages and of the (mostly Yazidi) children sold into sex slavery after having their fathers and brothers slaughtered in front of them. We all knew this.

Is Komminsky really trying to tell us that ISIS recruits were not salivating over the thought of beheading non-believers? Did he really expect us to swallow that a Yazidi sex-slave would be saved by a disillusioned ISIS fighter? Really? What a horrifying and disgusting way to address the treatment of the Yazidis under ISIS. This is not a good way to treat such horrors. If you are female, imagine if it were you being passed around by filthy ISIS thugs like a piece of meat after having your family killed in front of you. And imagine then, if one of your nations most popular TV stations made a drama on such things and had an ISIS thug as some kind of anti-rape superhero? It's disgusting.

Not only that, Komminsky manages to pull at the heart strings and lingers for some time at the aftermath of a missile strike on a baby hospital. Yes, a baby hospital. Most of them in incubators, so really sick babies too. Komminksy lingers on babies under rubble and baby body parts all over the place. However, with ISIS's atrocities, he offers nothing like the scale of graphic horror.

Komminksy has pushed the boundaries for some time, but with this, he has over stepped the mark. I asked if Komminksy expected people to swallow his nonsense that ISIS are all happy-clappy, intelligent and generally lovely guys and girls who were duped into joining. Sadly, I know quite a few head in the sand liberals who will buy this hook, line and sinker.

Disgusting.
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8/10
Bad reviewers misunderstood the essentials
nathanrhyne1 September 2017
The premise is simple so I will skip that. The Muslim Jihad is a call to arms for all Muslims regardless of one's life in the false world. Those who have been called are fed propaganda by the previous waves of fighters who answered the call to jihad.

We learn that each person truly wants and believes in their faith. They each want to believe in the struggle and participate in their own way. We also learn that the Mujahadeen or soldiers know this is a losing battle. For them it is a path to shaheed or martyrdom. This is the ultimate gift from God.

But what each person thought they were seeking in their faith or even their own personal lives cannot be had in the caliphe or Islamic State. Each person has a different challenge that defies the teachings of the hadith or prophet.

They each learn that it isn't the lies but the truth that scares them.
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1/10
Sanitised and superficial
hydearchie21 August 2017
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Undoubtedly, one of the worst TV programmes I have watched in recent times. It is a sanitised and superficial portrayal of 'innocent' young people travelling to the so-called caliphate to fulfill their religious destiny in 2015 (a time when Daesh's atrocities were already known)! There are no back stories, which if accurate would have portrayed the protagonists as consuming violent rhetoric, promises of sexual fulfillment and horrifying videos online as part of their radicalisation before going to Syria to commit, support or facilitate war crimes. We are supposed to believe that inherently decent people would choose to follow a brother to 'martyrdom', to run away from home to marry a random assassin, or to offer medical services to people that brutalise civilians. We are supposed to believe that all the characters were unaware of how violent and cruel IS was going to be, which is an insult to us as viewers, but also to the victims of this death cult. The absurdity peaks in one grotesque storyline where an isis fighter, in order to protect her, buys a Yazidi woman who's husband has disappeared, who's small daughter has been raped and who herself has been raped and tortured by multiple men. She is won over by his 'goodness' and later seduces him in gratitude! The failure of this drama to 'own' the presumptive repulsiveness of the characters' decisions to go to Syria is too great a hurdle and no amount of light portrayals of isis violence later in the series makes up for such a gaping omission or the distortion it creates.
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8/10
Excellent
oliverdearlove21 August 2017
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This is a story of 4 travellers ( Brits ) who go out to Syria starry eyed and of their adventures there. They of course have a view of the New Dawn and the regimentation and discipline is applied pretty quickly. It is extremely well acted and it is difficult to know if the characters have insight into the measures that are taken to isolate them. As it is British - irony is used as a part of the drama - one girl comments in Arabic "She can't read the Qoran and she is telling me how to behave." The British doctor I particularly identified with - as my mother had stories of faceless bureaucracy ( in the program's case po-faced Arab bureaucracy ) saying 'no' when clearly the answer is 'yes, we need all the help we can get' The bombing of the neonatal unit is particularly well done

a very powerful program showing how supposedly educated Brits are led to the slaughter like willing sheep
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10/10
Window into Muslim paradise on Earth
Foiser18 February 2018
Stop! Don't believe the one star reviews.

As a conservative, I too had a negative reaction to just seeing the promotional material advertising this TV Series. Mainly because I expected your usual left-wing propaganda from liberal cabal that is running the entertainment industry, hammered into my brain. Or worse, glamorizing Jihadis much like Rolling Stone did with Tsarnaev Brothers.

But I assure it is not so. I have no idea who this Peter Kosminsky is, but he did a great job of bringing the story of five British would be Jihadis going to Syria, and their travails as they battle the Kurds, Assad's Army, Western backed coalition... But mostly battle with their own doubts.

The State shows in vivid terms what was happening in parts of Syria ISIS controlled during their heyday from early 2014 to late 2017.

The State is a fascinating insight for someone like me, a citizen of the West, who was affected by it during that time period. To see all those young men and women running off to join these cruel butchers, after we threw open the doors for their parents and gave them a chance at a better life in the West...

It deeply changed me who I am as a person. From a young, left-wing liberal secular progressive I used to be during 2000s, to a right-wing conservative Atheist considering conversion to Christianity or Judaism I am today.

After only half of first episode I was immersed into it. All along, I was expecting to be suddenly disrespected, or have my intelligence insulted by bankrupt liberal ideology, but... It didn't come.

Kosminsky just told a good story. Left it to us to be the judges. Which is what a good artists should be doing. Otherwise they are not artists. They are propagandists. Did he do that because he is aware of a deep cultural shift undergoing in the Western world (trust me, I wasn't the only one who was "Red Pilled" by ISIS), or because he just happens to be a good director, it doesn't matter.

What matters is that the first 4 episodes are among the greatest I've seen in British television. The liberals might be crying how there should have been another episode explaining the motivation behind joining ISIS, presumably so the filmmakers could blame the West...

But I'm glad they didn't do it. We don't care. We are sick and tired of excuses and blame. We are furious. And I'm glad that at least for the first 4 episodes we weren't made fools of.

We don't care about "why". We care about "because". The reasons they joined ISIS? It is BECAUSE they are Muslim. Looking for a way into paradise. If not in this life then in the afterlife.

It is an immersive, vivid portrayal of people caught up in the events in Syria. Some of whom would kill us if they had the chance. Following them along their journey is a deeply moving TV watching experience. So do yourself a favour and see this show.

Sooner or later, there will be yet another Islamic State of This and That, somewhere in the Muslim World. And there will be more young Muslims joining them in droves... But hopefully some of them will see this show and think twice what they are doing.
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10/10
Fresh Perspective and Detailed Oriented of ISIS
amandagates-349833 September 2017
I am so amazed with this amount of details from a show portraying lives in ISIS. Personally I have been to the Middle East several times and spent months traveling along, I truly am impressed of the detail and some cultural differences displayed.

The ISIS has been marked as evil from all over the news worldwide, however, this show provides a fresh eye simply telling stories on each character's angle. People do need to understand, despite general impression ISIS is bad, every single person living the lives has their story to tell, I like how it is staying out of accusation but simply display some doubts ISIS caused on ppl. A show is a show, and it is a great show and the plots are so delicate and neatly illustrated. If all you want is political accusation, then you should only read what news is feeding you and write your comments on forums instead of a TV series review.
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1/10
Scum Of The Earth Portrayed As Naive Wretched Of The Earth
Theo Robertson24 August 2017
I was looking forward to this. World headlines over the last few years have catalogued the continuing terrorist atrocities of Daesh (ISIS) against the West but how much does the average Westerner understand the Hell on Earth created by ISIS in their self styled Caliphate where at one point 8 million human beings lived under their theocratic jackboot . ISIS portrayed themselves as heroic defenders of the Sunni faith and with the Shia majority in Iraq and Shia minority in Syria making things difficult for the average Sunni in these two countries ISIS was quickly seen as Sunni saviours hence innocent men , women and their children flocked to this new found society. Very quickly the inhabitants found out that while they weren't going to be tortured and murdered for being Sunnis they could be tortured and murdered for countless other reasons such as smoking cigarettes or rejecting forced marriage

If nothing else I had hoped THE STATE would show this misery to a wider audience but my heart started sinking that it was written and directed by Peter Kosminsky , a writer/director of social issues and current affairs I once had a lot of respect for but who blew it by making a "Based on a true story" drama called NO CHILD OF MINE. As it turned out the "truth" involved a composite character whose ordeal of child sex abuse was on a constant daily basis by literally every adult she knew and it quickly stopped becoming real in any way and was pulled by several regional broadcasters at the last moment . This obscene sensationalism might have destroyed other film makers careers but since Kosminsky is the type of broadcaster lauded by the Islington dinner party mob it didn't hurt his career in the slightest, Nevertheless I gave THE STATE a chance because I have visited the Middle East a couple of times and you can't give a dog like ISIS a bad enough name but even so I wasn't expecting much

As it turned out THE STATE didn't even meet my low expectations. It's produced as a "disillusionment drama" but does not work on any dramatic or factually logical level . Set in 2015 a handful of Brits head to Syria to live in the caliphate. Let's think about this for a moment . In 2015 the ISIS stronghold had been established for a year and daily horror stories had made world headlines , not least aid workers , journalists and prisoners of war being beheaded . It seems these thinly written cyphers must be the only people in the Universe who are unaware of the barbarity of ISIS. Oh and one of these idealists off to fight for ISIS just happens to be a white former squaddie from Scotland. As one of the characters points out "He might be a spy" and this is why ISIS wouldn't be accepting Western former soldiers with combat experience , though of course the Kurds of the YPG and Peshmerga would accept him . Indeed several hundred brave and noble Westerners , some with military experience , some without have fought in the various Kurdish militias and some of them have paid the ultimate price for their courage in fighting for radical democracy in a region of the World needing democratic values

Kosminsky claims he went to extensive lengths in interviewing former ISIS fighters. I don't doubt he did but you have to ask yourself if a former Jihadist is capable of telling the truth. Put it this way - if you've spent a couple of years breaking every international military and humanitarian law and are now in a jail somewhere are you really going to tell the truth that you've been raping kids and murdering civilians ? The induction for ISIS 2014-17 involves the mass murder of captured prisoners , a fact easily researchable via Google. This fact isn't propaganda. To watch THE STATE you'd think these Jihadists naively joined Daesh in the same way someone naively volunteered to operate the gas chambers at Nazi death camps , and like Nuremberg no one denied that genocide and mass atrocities had taken place "but I personally wasn't responsible for any of that" Yeah right

As I write this in the late Summer of 2017 the self styled caliphate of ISIS is about to become extinct and consigned to history. Hopefully the career of Peter Kosminsky in about to follow suit and if you want to educate yourself on the horrors of theocracy please read up on it via the countless articles and books on the subject and give this ridiculous so called drama a miss
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8/10
Well done
penniweninger19 September 2017
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I didn't watch this series to be entertained. I watched it to learn more about how radical Islam grows and functions. In that respect, it succeeded, personalizing and putting into context all of the bits and pieces and stories we know about through the media.

As an American non-Muslim, I don't pretend to be able to follow all of the internal struggles in the Muslim world. But one only has to look back at the passion for freedom and self-determination of the colonists in the American Revolution against England to understand the vehemence and fire that drove the four young British Muslims to leave their homes to fight for the formation of the Islamic State. Inspired by their commitment to their faith and further fueled by the claims of glory by duplicitous internet recruiters, they came, pure of purpose, willing to make contributions up to and including martyrdom. But their biggest struggle wound up to be fighting their disillusionment on discovering the truth and reality on arrival. For a good dramatic piece to make its point, it needs to draw the viewer into the characters and their personalities, so I had no objection to some artistic license in their behaviors: if these realities caused repentance or resistance in some situations, that was okay with me. We can acknowledge that some humanity may exist in these individuals without agreeing with them, liking or forgiving them. In fact, I found it made me much more wary of how strongly-principled people can become dangerous when poisonously influenced by a fanatical philosophy. And that was my takeaway, courtesy of a brilliantly acted and engrossing piece.
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1/10
Wow
jasdbs24 August 2017
So on one channel I'm watching the news, seeing chaos and death on the streets of some of the most beautiful cities on the planet and it breaks my heart.

I then turn the channel over to find a show which almost glorifies these acts of violence and tries to make us feel pity for the sheep who travel land and sea to join their evil world and it disgusts me.

I decided to finish the series, and where I appreciate the characters (and actors) I just couldn't relate or connect to the overall point in the show.

To conclude, it shocks me that this drama was created when there are currently people all over the world being selflessly murdered by this organisation.
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8/10
Muito Realista
bukarine20 September 2017
An excellent series that shows a good preliminary work of investigation in order to make it as realistic as possible. It is neither by far nor by near, an apology for Islamic radicalism and violence; show only a naked reality that, whether we like it or not, exists and which is not worth ignoring. The most attentive viewer will find during the 04 episodes not only the large references associated with ISIS (free and medieval violence, religion, the situation of women, accepted and justified slavery, but also small references to the bombing of civilian targets, former officers of Saddam who, by being ostracized and persecuted in the Iraq, formed the backbone of senior officers who allowed ISIS to have some success at the beginning of the expansion of the Califado, as well as the relevant issue of advertising and its dissemination in social networks. To see without reservations ...
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9/10
Good portrayal of the harsh reality of the ISIS lifestyle.
creativeartistlb4 November 2017
Great portrayal of the heinous nature of ISIS. And how regular British Muslims can get sucked in by the internet propaganda. And then are shocked when they actually arrive and see the true nature of these people supposedly called Muslims. When they are just extremists like every Religion has. It really put into perspective for me that Christians & Muslims are not that different. And both have radical extremists that use religion as an excuse for violent and offensive behavior. I don't know how anyone saw this as propaganda for ISIS. Who would want to live that way? It wasn't glorified at all. It showed the harsh reality of everyday life. And it didn't look fun to me.
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9/10
Heaven: the greatest fallacy ever conveyed.
pakshalkatariya18 July 2019
Billions of people have been killed in the name of God of Abraham & his heaven, don't know how many more would be. The film has been well crafted, keeps your interest intact, shows what strict adherence to an idealogy can do.
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1/10
Daesh propaganda movie ! Be aware !
slusamboje10 September 2017
This is characteristic Daesh propaganda material. It is about mental disordered, psycho retarded, scum of society...etc. persons who joined Daesh with ultimate aim to extinct others who does not "think" as they do and now asks for forgiveness because they did not succeeded in their goals. In this, so called "movie", violently is presented to us, normal people, that their causes were justified and we shall forgive them because "they did not know where they gone....Oh yes...they knew that very well.

I am sick of that propaganda materials. This "movie" should be censored.
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8/10
Game of Thrones But More Real
georget-11 November 2017
While the action and character development took a little while to unroll I found myself thinking on several occasions, "That's a Game of Thrones twist right there." After watching the first episode I ended up binge watching the remaining following three episodes in one sitting. The characters enter into the ISIS death cult with the best of intentions and soon discover that their idealized, romantic vision of an Islamic paradise on Earth is in actuality a corrupt, power-obsessed regime bent on creating a uniform group think with an apocalyptic vision of the future, reinforced by heinous acts of savagery and barbarity. There are other reviews that outline the story line but in general, if you like the convoluted political machinations and character awakenings of Game of Thrones, you will really like The State.
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8/10
Do you know the reality?
kiowhatta10 January 2019
Mostly moist brained Americans- one on here even had the stupidity to suggest All the Middle East's problems result from not accepting Western democracy- are the ones who would typically choose to believe their OWN media as opposed to ANYTHING else. These are the unevolved worlds trash who think they know what ISIS is. The stark truth is only those who have lived within have any right to speak with authority. If ISIS doesn't adhere to the Quran, they get criticised for not being real muslims- Yet when was the last time you met a Christian who strictly adhered to the New Testament? The point is these troglodytes don't realise the extent to which they're being manipulated- just like ISIS recruits. When you compare the atrocities carried out by the U.S and it's allies- just in the Middle East alone- ISIS looks like a Boy Scout group. You fools don't understand context. Lastly cluster bombs and other weapons which are banned by the Geneva convention are currently used by Saudi Arabia, Israel and the U.S. Here's one that'll rattle your cage. How many Western men ( I've spoken to hundreds of you ) detest the way women flaunt their sexuality and rapidly rising blind power? That's what hijabs, etc prevent. I'm not advocating violence against women, but we live in a society that manipulated and subliminally stimulate our sexual desires so we become better consumers. But nobody, nothing addresses the terrible frustration and sexual angst that this advertising and marketing bombardment 24/7 causes. Except, we are vilified for being men. Before you judge the Arabic world as backwards- moderate Islam has evolved and thought deep and hard about the customs it has erected. They didn't rule an enormous empire for roughly 800 years influencing Western academic, cultural and social life that has long been forgotten. I abhor all organised religion because it's a weak cop-out to accept someone else's revelations about the way to live, rather than have the courage to take your own journey. Just cease thinking ISIS are one- dimensional goons from a horror movie. ( Americans who vote republican are excused as they don't have the ability and want to uphold the most evil structures in the world: The military industrial congressional complex.
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