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260 out of 376 people found the following review useful:
Zero IQ Thirty, 4 February 2013
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Author:
Askar Ali Khan from Pakistan
I totally agree with the blog posted on Dawn.com regarding this movie
by Nadeem F. Paracha.
Zero Dark Thirty', was quite an experience. Though sharp in its
production and direction and largely accurate in depicting the events
that led to the death of Osama Bin Laden, it went ballistic bad in
depicting everyday life on the streets of Pakistan.
With millions of dollars at their disposal, I wonder why the makers of
this film couldn't hire even a most basic adviser to inform them that
1: Pakistanis speak Urdu, English and other regional languages and NOT
Arabic;
2: Pakistani men do not go around wearing 17th and 18th century
headgear in markets;
3: The only Urdu heard in the film is from a group of wild-eyed men
protesting against an American diplomat, calling him 'chor.' Chor in
Urdu means robber. And the protest rally was against US drone strikes.
How did that make the diplomat a chor?
4: And how on earth was a green Mercedes packed with armed men parked
only a few feet away from the US embassy in Islamabad? Haven't the
producers ever heard of an area called the Diplomatic Enclave in
Islamabad? Even a squirrel these days has to run around for a permit to
enter and climb trees in that particular area.
I can go on.
277 out of 471 people found the following review useful:
Technically Impressive but Surprisingly Hollow, 11 January 2013
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Author:
Danusha_Goska
"Zero Dark Thirty" is a grim, clinical depiction of the CIA search for
Osama bin Laden. Its strongest feature is its dramatization of the Navy
Seal Team 6 operation in Abbottabad, Pakistan, that killed bin Laden.
That sequence is so professionally shot it could be actual documentary
footage.
"Zero" has no real plot. Episodic scenes occur in a choppy manner, one
after the other. Scenes consist of depictions of beating and water
boarding of detainees in order to gather information, agents stalking a
suspect in Pakistan's crowded, chaotic bazaars, terrorist bombings,
assassinations and assassination attempts. There are also scenes in
offices where characters stare intently at computer screens or
interrogation videos, and characters yell at each other and use
obscenities, as their frustrating hunt for Osama bin Laden wears them
down.
"Zero" makes no attempt to draw the viewer in with any human sentiment.
Characters are given no backstory and no character arch. CIA agent
Maya, played by Jessica Chastain, is the closest the film has to a main
character. She reveals no affect. Her face is blank. She isn't so much
robotic as inert. We know nothing about her, except that she was
recruited to the CIA while in high school we are never told what
would draw the CIA to a high school student. I didn't care about this
character at all. All I kept thinking was, "Jessica Chastain is being
praised for *this* performance? Why?" The dullness of her performance,
and the underwritten character, made it almost impossible for me to
lose myself in the story, such as it was.
Jason Clarke is very strong and charismatic as Dan, a CIA interrogator.
Dan humiliates, beats, and water boards suspects, and then feeds them
delicious meals of hummus and olives when they deliver. His depiction
of his work as just another job he could be playing a bus driver with
the same amount and degree of expressiveness is provocative. I wish I
had gone to see a film built around his character and his performance.
Overall, I was disappointed in the film. Feature films are an art form.
I want them to do to me what drama can do. I want to be made to
identify with a character and I want, through that identification, to
learn more about life, or I want to be entertained. "Zero" did neither
for me. I wasn't entertained, and my understanding and worldview were
not expanded. I think the same material could have been better treated
in a documentary with selective re-enactments.
"Zero Dark Thirty" sidesteps key questions. Maya sacrificed years of
her life to the hunt for Osama bin Laden. Dan risks his humanity by
making his living beating and humiliating other men. Men, women and
children throughout the Muslim world, and, as the film makes clear, in
America's and Europe's cities, are eager to blow themselves up, as long
as they can take some infidels with them. Why? The film doesn't even
acknowledge that there are people out there asking the question, never
mind attempting to suggest an answer.
The film opens with audio from the September 11, 2001 terror attacks,
suggesting that the war between Islam and the non-Muslim world dates
from that attack. Not so. Islam increased its territory through jihad
from its invention in the seventh century until September 11, 1683, at
the Battle of Vienna. After that defeat, Islam stopped its spread. The
significance of the date of September 11 goes back over four centuries.
America's founding fathers had to deal with jihad; see Thomas Jefferson
and the Barbary Pirates. Some argue terrorism, including the 9-11
attack, is caused by Western imperialism. The solution to these
thinkers is for the Western world to be nicer to non-Western nations,
to practice multiculturalism and to share the wealth. Others argue that
jihad is inextricable from Islam, and that one necessary step is for
the West to recognize and cherish its own unique virtues to cherish
that for which its spies, soldiers, and citizens fight, sacrifice, kill
and die.
"Zero Dark Thirty" never so much as brushes up against these questions.
At its key moment, the film is hollow. We all know how the hunt ends
we all know Osama bin Laden is dead. "Zero" might have addressed why
Maya gave the time of her life to that hunt, why Dan risked his
humanity, why Seal Team 6 trained for years and risked their lives.
"Zero" never does consider why these, who might have been the film's
heroes, did what they did, and I walked out of the theater oddly
unmoved by all the high tension and graphic violence I'd just sat
through.
190 out of 310 people found the following review useful:
Ehhh... seriously?, 30 January 2013
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Author:
Will from San Diego
I was honestly expecting a lot more, given the multiple nominations for awards. I really thought this movie was overdone and could have been pared down by at least 45 minutes. In the end, it was just a glorified "we killed bin laden" pseudo-documentary. The character relationships never developed and seemed empty. And I didn't really find the main actress very believable or that great. Scenes of shooting dead bodies also were probably a bit too much -- overall this movie seemed overly nationalistic and simplistic without delivering much in the way of content. I thought Hurt Locker was a significantly better movie. Again, I am somewhat surprised at the number of award nominations this movie received.
299 out of 540 people found the following review useful:
Take this Movie and take a Dump on it..., 8 January 2013
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Author:
Janis Livens from Latvia
*** This review may contain spoilers ***
Zero Dark Thirty is one of the most offensive propaganda film crafted
for critics and American jingoists I've seen in a long time. There is
nothing worth while in this film. It's dull, repetitious, badly acted
mess without a clear goal or any intentions of exploring it's subject
matter, politics surrounding it and moral and ethical questions.
Zero Dark Thirty is amateurishly directed, badly written and poorly
acted trash. It has no style, no cinematic visuals or any indications
that this was made any kind of passion. Katheryn Bigelow was banking on
the fact, that the premise alone will carry the film. So visually and
technically it's bland, flat and badly shot without any spark of
creativity. The script is very mechanical and dry. The dialog is bad
and has some cringe worthy lines. The script focuses on dry facts and
forgets any humanity or conflict. Also the characters are one note
caricatures without any depth. Plus it's not helped by the terrible
acting. Jessica Chastain just kill this film with her blank, Kristen
Stewart like expressions mixed with painful attempts at being tough and
bad***. Other actors just seem bored or just ham it up. How dare you
use Mark Strong and not let him be awesome? Zero Dark Thirty has no
redeeming qualities and it should be buried in the shallow grave after
being shot in the head.
If enjoy watching scenes of people being tortured, audio queues from
9/11, integrating fictional characters into real life terrorist attacks
and other kind of pandering to lowest common denominator, you might
like this garbage. If not then avoid it, because it's a terrible film
that will only make you mad. If you are curios then find a way to see
it for free. Just don't give your money to those hacks that made this
fecal matter.
172 out of 288 people found the following review useful:
I can't believe how bad this movie is, 6 January 2013
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Author:
JR . from Canada
*** This review may contain spoilers ***
After watching Zero Dark Thirty I am simply amazed at the critical
reception it's received. In fact it's one of the most bizarre and
puzzling critical reactions I've seen since more than 60% of critics
liked Spiderman III on rottentomatoes To me this is simply not a good
film. In fact I wouldn't even be as kind to call it merely OK or
middling. I believe it's flat out bad.
Zero Dark Thirty is the type of film that needs exceptional editing and
writing to work. This is because it's about a long drawn out process
mainly done by people sitting at desks. The film I imagined, if as good
as its reviews, would have cracking dialog, sharp plotting, quick
editing The problem with the film is that it's writing and editing is
quite poor. The dialogs in this film simply do not work and undermine
talented actors/actresses. The characters talked to each other at a TV
movie level of depth and linguistic expression. Many scenes, including
some like the infamous F bomb laden ones simply do not feel believable
as happening in a professional CIA setting. Many of the arguments feel
stagey and "we need you to act emotional here" outburst-y, as mentioned
like they'd do in a TV movie. I suspect the screenwriter wanted to make
the people feel "real" and down to earth, except it does just the
opposite. The dialog makes the characters feel contrived, as if trying
too hard to feel real.
SPOILER - The other problem with the script is that while I do not know
the details of what really happened vs what Bigelow and co.
fictionalized, many parts of the manhunt felt ridiculous. eg. There is
a scene where a terrorist spills all his guts information wise just
because Chastain tricked him into thinking he told him all of that the
night before and had memory loss. Would he really just give up and say
everything like that? There's an entirely predictable explosion/death
scene prompted by a smiley CIA agent going "oh just let him into the
base, we don't want to spook him by scaring him" which was ridiculously
naive by a trained professional. The CIA are shown a video of a
detainee saying "X character is dead, I buried him, btw here's a
picture" and they all just believe it as fact without questioning
whether he'd be lieing. The entire plot hinges on catching a courier
who they seem to find because of a long lost picture, and some other
details I didn't really catch - either way the way they caught him was
very confusing and not drawn out well plotting wise. The manhunt did
not come off as very complex, intelligent or plotted well to me. It
felt like the characters just sat around for a decade and waited for
clues to fall in their lap!
Then there's the editing. This is a long, sloppily put together film.
Many of the scenes feel unnecessary. There are long, forgetting scenes
of people talking. For a large portion of the film I could hardly stand
to watch the dull back and forths while keeping my eyes open.
Many people have pointed out the lack of character development. This is
true but I also blame the dialog most of all. Chastain is a blank
terrorist catching robot and simply does not feel like a real person to
me. None of them do really. This makes it harder to cheer for them.
They come off as terrorist catching line delivery devices, not real
people with emotions.
Zero Dark Thirty came off to me as a misfire on almost every level.
It's poorly written, edited, it fails to make its characters or plot
interesting. Zero Dark Thirty tries so hard to be "realistic" and
"naturalistic" that it forgets it's a film. But not only does it go in
that docu-drama wannabe direction but it does a very poor job of
feeling realistic due to its stagey characters and dialog and clearly
contrived plotting and set-ups. It neither has its cake or eats it.
This is simply a colossal misfire after the near masterpiece that is
the Hurt Locker for Bigelow. I am truly shocked at how poor a film this
is on every level after the critical reception to it. One of the very
worst films I've seen all year
139 out of 230 people found the following review useful:
Why on Earth should this movie deserve an Oscar?, 12 January 2013
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Author:
naerayan from Romania
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Poor screenplay, poor dialogs, extremely bad actors and some strange
and disturbing way of directing for a two hour and a half movie. The
film is boring, the plot is childish and Maya it seems to be a little
bit psychotic. Kathryn Bigelow tried the Hurt Locker recipe once again
but this time her way to shoot just couldn't make anything
understandable and bearable. Sometimes steady, most of time shaky, the
camera is so confusing, especially in small spaces that you don't know
what the director want to say anymore....
And the script is as shallow as a B series movie...
Please don't loose your time. You'd better watch Tinke Taylor Soldier
Spy or even Looper, at least you'll get entertain. Or if you want
something European (because Bigelow it seem to me that she wants to
copy some of the European ways to shoot images) take a look at Beyond
the Hills. ;)
313 out of 591 people found the following review useful:
Thank you IMDb, 19 January 2013
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stargellmn from United States
Knowing this movie was nominated for best picture, I was afraid that I
was losing my mind after seeing it, since what I saw in the theater
was: one dimensional characters being frustrated about not being able
to do anything, inter-cut with a newsreel about current events,
followed a ridiculously overdone operation to kill a couple people in a
house.
No doubt this is a difficult story to tell dramatically, since it's
about people who are doing a job that is passive by nature. But what
was striking is how completely devoid it was of character. Courtroom
dramas trade in the same stock, but even the most pedestrian episode of
Boston Legal or LA Law contain more compelling characters than anyone
in this movie.
And most movies about real events overcome the inherent story problems
by provoking thought in the audience about the events themselves. What
they lack in dramatic momentum, they make up for in unsettling
questions. But it was amazing how completely empty this film was of
anything resembling a question about what was going on. It was as if
Kathryn Bigelow thought she was just "presenting reality" to the
audience.
In 50 years, people are going to look back at this movie in the same
way that we look at the jingoistic WWII Hollywood features now - as
empty fare designed to prop up our fragile national psyche. Maybe
that's what people need right now. But let's not pretend it's a quality
film.
147 out of 261 people found the following review useful:
Poor writing. Requires too much suspension of disbelief to pretend it is real...and slow, 5 January 2013
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David (OriEri) from Silicon Valley, CA
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If this movie had been entirely fictional, I would have given it 2
stars. The importance of the story and the care taken in some parts
gave it 5.
Before I excoriate, here are the good points. It tells a very important
story. Our country was spending soldiers' blood and sanity and HUGE
amounts of money. Getting UBL made it easier to stop. Even if he had
become less relevant to Al-Qaeda as the Pakistan station chief said in
the movie, he still was important to many voters.
The movie used real names and stories of persons of interest to the
analysts.
The movie shows how nasty the relatively low key torture techniques
that were used in the US's name are. I have no idea how realistic they
were, but certainly it was not fun to watch. Hopefully it gives the
viewer some sense of what they are approving or disapproving when they
express their views to their elected representatives.
The raid was depicted realistically, though I am no expert. It was
quiet; the soldiers weren't jumping around yelling "Hooyah" during the
operation. The children and women in the house were upset and terrified
and pitiable. Things went wrong and the soldiers needed workarounds.
The writing did not put the analyst physically present at the raid just
to add drama ( I have no doubt that was discussed and rejected.) The
only complaint I have is the man who killed UBL went into a shell
shocked daze afterward. I suspect after all that training, those men
are VERY professional and would be working quickly and with focus to
get the job done and get out.
Now the criticism: A few more subtitles and back story explanations of
names when they were used, would make easier for westerners to follow
the interesting paths of reasoning the analysts were following. Would
have kept the brain engaged a bit more.
The movie ends up being rather slow...seriously. A few people in my row
were nodding and one woman two seats down was sleeping through almost
the entire movie. (Maybe she had a rough night. . . )
Would have been nice to see some more character development. Except for
a few pairings, you could hardly tell from one scene to the next how
two people would interact. One scene professional, one scene
companionable, the next screaming and the next compassion, with no
explanation of the shifts. Huh? Maybe a little more time with the
character's back stories or seeing them interact in different ways
would have smoothed this out.
When a movie pretends to be documenting real events, even if
embellished for dramatic effect, it makes operation of suspension of
disbelief more difficult for me. The depicted behavior of the civilian
intelligence analysts was often amazingly unprofessional, ignorant of
very basic security practices and inconsistent and that pulled me out
of the story.
Examples: Maya is meeting a colleague for dinner at a Marriott. She
floats the name of the person they are hunting for across a table in an
insecure environment where anyone could hear! I hope real analysts
operate with a bit more discretion when they are away from the ID
badges and pass code protected doors and computer systems.
Later in the movie after the bombing at the Marriott, Maya is invited
out to eat and says "I don't eat out...too dangerous." Later, she is
seen half intoxicated at a bar when a colleague delivers a rather
important piece of intelligence equipment to her (which we never see ir
hear about again).
A senior CIA officer screams at his team during a meeting. Nothing more
constructive was communicated than "Please get me some answers" except
with no "please" and lots of histrionics. Not exactly effective
leadership. Really? With all the stress in the lives of folks in the
field already, it is hard to imagine any high level worker lasting very
long in that position with that sort of behavior. The team would self
destruct around him.
Maya, shrieks at her boss in a hallway in a way that would make anyone
question her stability. Very unprofessional. Unstable people don't work
in classified environments very long.
Maya, in a high level meeting with the CIA director, blurts out
irrelevant-to-the-discussion-data just to get some attention.
(Paraphrase: "the house is 4021 feet away, eight tenths of miles, not
one mile") This is 10 years into her character's career! A "I have
nothing important to say, but pay attention to me" meeting strategy is
discarded rather quickly after a little experience in the real world. .
.or folks who use it find themselves in quiet positions pretty quickly
where they won't distract from the core discussions and waste people's
time. Surely the writer could have had her say something that was
actually important to the discussion that no one else could have known?
Multiple classified conversations between CIA folks on *cell phones* ??
What are they even doing with cell phones in a secure area?
I was a tad disturbed that real suicide attack stories where real
people died were doctored up to make them apply more directly to the
characters in the movie. I am thinking in particular about the Chapman
attack. A 45 year old mother of three was killed for real, but she
wasn't an analyst out of Pakistan at the time, and her name was not
Jessica.
Check out the wiki article on the Camp Chapman attack in 2009 and read
the section on contractor and CIA casualties.
I have to give the writer that leeway to turn a complete snoozer into
something with a little excitement, but this seemed disrespectful.
In short too unrealistic to feel like a true to life story, and too
slow to enjoy like a piece of fiction.
52 out of 75 people found the following review useful:
Lazy and boring filmmaking, 14 February 2013
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Author:
analyzepk from Pakistan
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I want to thank Kate B for adding to my knowledge. Really. I had no
idea that Abbottabad was an Arabic-speaking city where most of the
world's camels come to take a nap as the dunes of the desert silhouette
them against the setting sun.
After about the fifteenth person yells "Yalla! Aimshee!" you begin to
wonder: couldn't they just have Wikipedia'd this stuff? It's written on
that website that the national language of Pakistan is Urdu, right?
Especially if one is to make a movie about an event a couple of years
after it transpired, surely a little Googling would help? It's an error
so enormous that it made me think, "If they got that wrong, why should
I believe they got anything right?" It's grossly insulting and reminds
me that one should never rely on others to represent oneself.
"You don't understand Pakistan!" White Chick screams at her supervisor
at one point. And you do? I wanted to ask. You, who just said "shukran"
at a "bar" at the Marriot Hotel after you were served wine in a
margarita glass? Overall disappointed with Kate B's lack of effort in
representing such recent events in a realistic manner. Another edifice
to lazy filmmaking and needless hype.
46 out of 69 people found the following review useful:
The worst movie I've seen in years, 13 February 2013
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Author:
zilian62
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"The greatest manhunt in history". Well, Dark Zero Thirty movie clearly
does not show this! I had way more thrills following the manhunt of the
fake Abu Nazir in the TV show Homeland than in this propaganda- movie.
And first, seriously, make a movie out of the death of Bin Laden not
even two years after the events? If there's a world war III someday, at
the end of it there will be a Hollywood movie about it the year after.
If I would like to tell spoilers about the plot I could not. It is
easier to follow by reading some Wikipedia articles about it.
Everything is boring, from the start to the last scene where special
forces shoot down unarmed people in Bin Laden's safe-house.
I really don't understand the official critics. No plot, no character
building, no suspense - it's actually the first movie I stopped
watching before the end in a while. (I later watched the "killing"
final scene, just to see).
(Actual spoiler)
Even if I didn't know about the camp attack, I wasn't surprised at all
by the suicide bombing. I mean, CIA agents trusted the double agent
like hell, and I could not even feel like them in a movie?
That's...that's just bad.
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