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8 Times Up (2009)

8 fois debout (original title)
Elsa makes a living from little jobs, struggling to gain custody of his son. Mathieu, who lives next door, also keeps getting job interviews only to polish his art of failure. Their ... See full summary »



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Cast overview, first billed only:
Mathieu Busson ...
Kevyn Frachon ...
Marc Bodnar ...
Le vigile
Fani Kolarova ...
Alissa Parutenco ...
Christian Erickson ...
Gabin Lefebvre ...
Tania Dessources ...
Constance Dollé ...
Frédéric Bocquet ...
Alix Poisson ...
Philippe Crespeau ...
Le propriétaire
Cédric Zimmerlin ...


Elsa makes a living from little jobs, struggling to gain custody of his son. Mathieu, who lives next door, also keeps getting job interviews only to polish his art of failure. Their situation is increasingly precarious, but both are trying to bounce back in a world that seems not to fit them. Written by wikipedia

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14 April 2010 (France)  »

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Hétszer lenn, nyolcszor fenn  »

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Meeting on the way down: a film about economic marginality
23 February 2010 | by (Berkeley, California) – See all my reviews

Xabia Molia's first feature is a psychological and social study with a light touch. Hopelessness and desperation are tempered by whimsy, and however downbeat the film, it is delicate and specific.

Julie Gayet and Denis Podalydès play Elsa and Matthieu, two marginal people approaching middle age with limited prospects who meet because they're apartment neighbors on the verge of eviction for non-payment of rent. To make matters worse, both are hopeless at job interviews and lack solid credentials. They talk about putting interesting items in their CV's, to stand out from the crowd of applicants. Matthieu includes the fact that he practices archery and Elsa lists Kabuki.

Molia is fortunate in his appealing principals. Gayet, who is pert and pretty but here has a kind of sad determination, is a busy and versatile film actress. Podalydès is a member of the Comédie-Française. He looks a bit like Wallace Shawn: balding, vague, rather sweet, someone you might like to have a drink with but probably not want to hire.

Since both are looking, rather hopelessly, for jobs,Elsa and Matthieu discuss strategies, both cluelessly. Matthieu suggests using offbeat Zen sayings in interviews. One is "7 fois à terre, 8 fois debout" -- "seven times down, eight times up." Another: "He who hits the target, misses all the rest." Both Elsa, who has an illegal job cleaning off buses and takes care of a well-off lady's little boy, and Matthieu, who has sporadic work doing PR surveys, know about being down and not hitting the target. Neither of them knows how to do an interview or has even fair prospects at this point.

We see several job interviews for both characters. Elsa's are painful. She lacks motivation or confidence. When asked to show her knowledge of English during the pre-titles footage, she just stammers. She can't justify dropping out of nursing school except to say she wasn't cut out for it. Even when the interviewer tries to help her she flounders. Matthieu philosophizes. He goes on at length about what he was doing in the five-year gap in his resume. He was reading, he says, thinking, deciding whether working was a necessary thing to do; he concluded it was.

A tentative romance develops between Elsa and Matthieu, the love of losers, simultaneously distracted from connecting and pulled together by shared confusion and need. Elsa is approaching desperation, but seeks to put up a good front, especially since she wants to be able to go on spending alternate weekends with her son Étienne (Kevyn Frachon) who otherwise is in the custody of her ex-husband. Her downward path continues when a mishap at the bus-cleaning job leads her to abandon it and she becomes too scattered to show up for her babysitting work and gives notice by phone.

Matthieu seems more a whimsical drifter, rather than a person like Elsa who is being pulled down against her will. Matthieu seems to be blithely coping, though likely to remain on the margins. He winds up for a while living in a tent in a forest, like the people in Pierre Schoeller's 2008 'Versailles,' which included the late Guillaume Dupardieu in a key role. Matthieu pops in and out of Elsa's life.

Elsa takes Matthieu to a dinner at her ex-husband's. It turns out he was a footballer, but only for the reserve team. Then he had muscle problems, and began to smoke, and went to Texas for a girlfriend, but didn't like Texas. End of football career. Elsa has been having psychological counseling, to conquer her fear of seeking jobs, but funding for these sessions has run out. She has also been evicted and is living out of her Volvo station wagon. She tries to give the therapist her mother's papyrus plant, but he refuses to take it. It floats down river, when she throws it away, looking as if it may actually make it.

Elsa's cousin secures her a job interview to be cashier at a supermarket but she has no experience as a cashier. As she becomes more desperate waiting for the results of this interview she takes Étienne on a wild weekend ride to the beach, where she seems to be trying to drown him. But then she saves him and they hug warmly when she leaves him off at his father's. She runs into Matthieu again on the verge of being fired from her first day as a clerk at a clothing store, and it looks like they are going to be bobbing together on the river for a while, like the papyrus plant.

The film succeeds in its aim of showing Elsa and Matthieu's situation sympathetically and without pathos. This is a film that shows how thin the line between security and homelessness can be. But the light touch in part backfires: the very delicacy and the tenuousness of the couple's relationship makes the film feel itself marginal and tentative at times.

'8 Times Up' was shown at the Rendez-Vous with French Cinema at Lincoln Center, New York, March 2010; scheduled to open in Paris April 14, 2010.

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