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The following FAQ entries may contain spoilers. Only the biggest ones (if any) will be covered with spoiler tags. Spoiler tags are used sparingly in order to make the page more readable.

For detailed information about the amounts and types of (a) sex and nudity, (b) violence and gore, (c) profanity, (d) alcohol, drugs, and smoking, and (e) frightening and intense scenes in this movie, consult the IMDb Parents Guide for this movie. The Parents Guide for Saw V can be found here.

What is 'Saw V' about?

Just before John 'Jigsaw' Kramer (Tobin Bell) died, he devised the plans for his next game and charged Lt Mark Hoffman (Costas Mandylor) with carrying it out. The game involves five people -- Ashley (Laura Gordon), Luba (Meagan Good), Brit (Julie Benz), Charles (Carlo Rota), and Mallick (Greg Bryk) -- all of whom had a hand in a fire that caused the death of eight people when a supposedly-abandoned building was burned down. The five must make it through four rooms, the point being that the five people, all selfish opportunists, must learn to work together. In the first test, they are placed in a trap with collars locked around their necks. The collars are connected to razor sharp blades that will decapitate them if they don't retrieve within one minute the keys to their collars, which are stored in glass boxes across the room. The problem is that all five collars are connected, and there is only enough length for one person at a time to retrieve a key. In the second room, keys stored in overhead jars must be found in time to unlock three chambers that will protect them from bombs set to go off in one minute. In the third room, five cables must be connected to a bathtub full of water in order to unlock the door. The problem is that none of the cables is long enough to reach the tub. In the fourth and final room, they must fill a beaker with ten pints of their blood in order to unlock the door and end the game.

No. Saw V is the fifth movie in the Saw series, all of which stem from a screenplay by Australian screenwriters Leigh Whannell and James Wan. Saw V was co-written by screenwriters Patrick Melton and Marcus Dunstan. Prior to Saw V is Saw (2004) Saw II (2005), Saw III (2006), and Saw IV (2007). Sequels to Saw V are Saw VI (2009) and Saw 3D (2010).

FBI agent Peter Strahm (Scott Patterson) chased Jeff Denlon (Angus Macfadyen) into the operating room (also shown at the end of Saw III). Strahm shot Denlon, who attacked him while screaming, 'Where is my daughter?' (referring to Corbett Denlon, kidnapped by Jigsaw in Saw III). Jigsaw was seen lying on the operating table with his throat cut. Lynn Denlon's (Bahar Soomekh) headless body and Amanda Young's (Shawnee Smith) bloody remains were seen lying on the floor. Lt Daniel Rigg (Lyriq Bent) found a tape that detailed the rules of the game and how he violated them. It told him that, if he had not violated the rules, Det. Eric Matthews (Donnie Wahlberg) and Lt Mark Hoffman would have lived. As Rigg tried to crawl to his feet, Hoffman rose from a chair and said, "Game over," revealing he is the second accomplice the FBI had theorized about. Hoffman then went to the operating room and locked the door, leaving Strahm inside with the bodies of Jigsaw, Lynn, Amanda, and Jeff. In the final scenes, Jigsaw's voice on the tape recovered from his stomach was heard, warning that the games are not over just because he is dead, and that "you will not walk away untested."

Saw V picks up immediately after the ending of Saw IV, showing how Strahm gets out of the operating room and how Hoffman goes on to rescue Corbett Denlon (Niamh Wilson), those three being the only ones to survive the events in Saw IV and get out of the meatpacking plant alive. The story then continues with Strahm learning that Hoffman has been Jigsaw's second accomplice all along. There are occasional flashbacks to Hoffman's involvement in the murder of Seth Baxter (Joris Jarsky) and how Jigsaw got Hoffman to help him with his games, as well as some of the games on which Jigsaw and Hoffman worked together prior to Jigsaw's death.

Is Rigg alive?

No, Hoffman, Strahm, and Corbett were the only three shown to get out of the warehouse alive. Rigg's picture is also shown at the press conference as one of the five officers that died in the pursuit of Jigsaw, the others being Steven Sing, David Tapp, Allison Kerry, and Eric Matthews. FBI agent Lindsey Perez is also assumed dead (after sustaining shrapnel injuries at a crime scene), but this isn't confirmed or denied until Saw VI.

Hoffman's sister Angelina was killed during a domestic dispute by her boyfriend, Seth Baxter. After being released from jail after serving the minimum sentence, Hoffman finds and kidnaps Seth, taking advantage of the recent murders to make it look like Jigsaw trap. However, unlike the other Jigsaw traps, Hoffman doesn't give Seth a way out of the pendulum trap, and Seth is killed. Jigsaw is furious about being given credit for something he didn't do, especially since Hoffman's trap was inferior to his. Jigsaw kidnaps Hoffman and condemns him for not offering Seth the chance to change, as his philosophy is that everyone deserves a second chance, if they want it. Jigsaw offers to show him how to truly help somebody, hoping it will help him become a better person. However, if Hoffman continues to pursue him, Jigsaw threatens to let everybody know what Hoffman did, as he has the evidence necessary to prove the pendulum trap wasn't done by him, but by Hoffman.

Whether or not Amanda knows that Hoffman is assisting Jigsaw is not addressed in Saw V. However, during flashbacks in Saw VI, it is made clear that Amanda and Hoffman not only knew about each other, but worked together with Jigsaw on several games.

Mallick was a rich boy, a drug user and a bit of a pyromaniac who was paid to set a building on fire (although it is revealed he didn't know people were still living there). Brit was the real estate developer who paid Mallick to burn down the building, even though she knew there were still eight people living inside. Luba was the city planner who pushed through the permit. Ashley was the fire inspector who wrote a fake accident report. Charles was an Investigative journalist who buried the story.

In the decapitation trap, all of their collars had the same lock, meaning one key would have opened all locks. In the jar room, there was enough room for two people in each of the tunnels...no need to sell one player out to the bomb. For the electric bath tub test, each person was supposed to use one of the cables to complete the connection to the tub. If one person took all the electricity it would kill them, but five people would just receive a bit of a shock and be fine. In the last room, they are supposed to fill the jar with 10 pints of blood. The average person has 10-12 pints of blood in their body. If all five had survived, two pints of blood from all five players would have easily made 10 pints and they all would have survived. Since only Mallick and Brit made it to the last room, they each have to give five pints. In the end, 'five become one' meant that they were supposed to become a team, not that only one could survive.

John is referring to a scene in Saw IV in which his pregnant wife Jill (Betsy Russell), who works at the Homeward Clinic, had a door slammed into her abdomen during a robbery by a drug addict, resulting in a miscarriage.

The final game takes place in the basement of the house from Saw and Saw II. The house has been fixed up and redone. When Strahm enters the basement a blood trail is visible leading up to the door where the bathroom from the original Saw is located. This is most likely blood from Dr Gordon's severed foot and/or Det. Matthews' broken foot.

John described the contents of the box as a "grave matter" and Jill looked very serious when she looked inside. What's inside the box is revealed later in the movie series, but for those who have not yet seen the entire Saw series and wish to speculate first, here are some possibilities. One thing that could possibly be in the box is the evidence that proves Hoffman is the real accomplice. In the scene where Hoffman first meets Jigsaw, Jigsaw tells him that he has all the information that proves Hoffman was involved with the "Pendulum trap" and he will have it released following Jigsaw's disappearance. This could mean that he left all of this information to Jill. As he says, "I trust you will know what to do with it." Another thing that could be in the box is the test for Hoffman. At the end of Saw IV, Hoffman finds the tape in Jigsaw's stomach which promises that Hoffman will not go untested and that Jigsaw's work will continue. Seeing that the autopsy scene still has not happened by the end of Saw V, it is possible that there will be a tape or video that will be Hoffman's test. There is behind-the-scenes footage of Jill standing in a hallway next to the box. All around Jill are photos of different people. Even though we still do not know (at this point) the contents of this box, it is possible that the photos came from the box and that Jill hung them up.

No. Many people have thought there were two tape players...one in the glass coffin that told Strahm to get in the box and the other "hidden" under the box, which stated that he should have gotten in the box. This isn't the case. The entire message was on one tape. Its just that Strahm stopped the tape when he heard Hoffman coming towards the room, and then Hoffman signaled him to /finish playing the tape.

The pen was left in his pocket on purpose as the means of surviving the game. This is evidenced by the view of everything else of Strahm's belongings left on the barrel. Jigaw was adamant in Saw III and in this movie that he despises murderers and that all victims should always be able to survive their respective tests. It has also been confirmed by the cast at Sawmania that the pen was left in Strahm's pocket on purpose. It was said to be the same pen that Jigsaw has in his possession in Saw IV. However, Strahm does state that the trap was constructed for his execution and that everyone was supposed to die, leaving Hoffman the "last man standing." This hints at the idea that the pen was left in his pocket by accident, but this is merely Strahm speculating on the situation. He has no way of actually knowing.

The stomach can contain about 1.5 liters of fluid (source), about a quart and a half. There were two five gallon bottles dumped into that box. It would be impossible for Strahm to drink enough to get his nose above the water. Also, he would have had no way of knowing whether the water was actually drinkable, or that it would be just water and not something else.

It must have been absent on the first discovery of Mark's scene. Hoffman would have had to plant it later, most likely in a spot that could have easily been missed.

These are the first six victims listed on the victim list: (1) Cecil Fletcher (Knife Chair), (2) Mark Wilson (Candle/Safe), (3) Seth Baxter (Pendulum), (4) Paul Leary (Razor Wire), (5) Amanda Young (Reverse Bear Trap), and (6) Donnie Greco (Question Mark Man in Reverse Bear Trap game). One theory is that they could have found Cecil's body with the puzzle piece taken out, labeled the killer the "Jigsaw Killer" and labeled Cecil his first victim. Amanda could have been tested before Mark and Paul but, since she didn't die, there was no puzzle piece cut from her. When she originally came forward about what happened to her, they couldn't have officially labeled her a Jigsaw victim...only assumed. Then they find Mark's body with the puzzle piece cutout. He is declared the second Jigsaw victim. But, the penlight couldn't have been there on this first discovery. They find Seth with the puzzle piece cutout and the same type of tape, with the puppet "Billy" explaining the rules that Amanda would have described to them and would have found at her scene. He is falsely declared the third Jigsaw victim. Paul is declared the fourth Jigsaw victim. Whether before or after discovering Paul's scene makes no difference; Hoffman must have gone back to Mark's scene and planted the penlight. With further investigation, because of the connection between the puzzle piece and the tape in Seth's trap, Amanda and Donnie are finally labeled the fifth and sixth Jigsaw victims.

The actually timeline would be: (1) Cecil is tested, dies, is discovered, and is declared the 1st victim. (2) Amanda is tested, survives, and goes to the police, but the perpetrator is unclear. (3) Mark is tested, dies, is discovered and declared the second Jigsaw victim. (4) Seth is tested, dies, is discovered, and is falsely declared the third Jigsaw victim. (5) Hoffman is captured by the real Jigsaw and is turned into an apprentice. (6) Paul is tested and dies. (7) Hoffman plants the penlight at Mark's scene. (8) Paul's body is discovered, and he is declared the fourth Jigsaw victim. Through further investigation, links are found between Amanda's case and other Jigsaw victims. She and Donnie are finally declared the fith and sixth Jigsaw victims.

What is the body count?

6 confirmed. Seth Baxter, Ashley Kazon, Charles Salomon, Angelina Acomb (flashback), Luba Gibbs, and Agent Peter Strahm. Mallick and Brit are both bleeding rather severely and have lost half of their blood. Without a way to stop the bleeding fast, they would both bleed to death. Their fates are not confirmed or denied until later in the series.

How does the movie end?

Hoffman plants Strahm's cellphone in the control room to be found by Erickson, implicating Strahm as Jigsaw's second accomplice (the first being Amanda), so Erickson puts out an APB on Strahm. Meanwhile, Strahm enters a room that contains nothing but a box full of broken glass and a player with a tape inside. He listens to the tape from Jigsaw (Tobin Bell) telling him that, if he has learned to trust Jigsaw, he will enter the box full of broken glass. When Hoffman enters the room, Strahm is hiding behind the door and, during the insuing fight, Strahm knocks Hoffman into the box filled with broken glass. To Strahm's horror, Hoffman's box is then lowered safely into the floor, and the walls start to close in on Strahm. Turns out if he had trusted him and climbed into the box, he would have survived. But he didn't, and will now die. He climbs to the top of the room, hoping to escape the walls but is crushed to death.

AMERICA (released on January 20, 2009): 1. Standard DVD with no bonus features. 2. Unrated Edition DVD with added footage, five featurettes, two commentaries, and trailer. 3. Unrated Collectors Edition DVD has the same bonus features as the Unrated Directors Cut but has special packaging featuring a button on the front that spins a saw when pushed. 4. Unrated 2-Disc Blu ray with digital copy. UNITED KINGDOM (released on March 9, 2009): 1. Extreme Edition DVD with added footage, five featurettes, two commentaries. 2. Extreme Edition Blu-ray with added footage, five featurettes, two commentaries. AUSTRALIAN (released on March 11, 2009): 1. Uncut DVD with added footage, five featurettes, two commentaries. 2. Uncut Blu-ray with added footage, five featurettes, two commentaries.

The Saw V standard edition (rated R) is the exact same Saw V as seen in theaters. The Saw V uncut (Director's Cut) edition has some scenes added and some taken out. Also, the director's cut has some scenes moved around. The two things that were removed was Pamela Jenkin's line, "Why isn't this a joint press conference with the FBI?" and the scene where Jill receives the box is slightly edited; the line where he asks her what is in the box is removed. The things that were added: (1) an extended and gorier version of the Pendulum trap, including a line by Seth Baxter, "I did what I was supposed to"; (2) an extended water box trap; (3) an extended bath tub scene; (4) an extended, gorier final trap of the Fatal Five; (5) more conversation between Mallick and Brit, including lines that confirm Mallick's arm was burned, not full of needle marks, as some previously assumed; and (6) an extended and gorier ending where Strahm is crushed. A detailed comparison between the theatrical version and the Unrated Director's Cut can be found here.

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