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Saw IV -- Jigsaw, as well as his apprentice Amanda, have died. After hearing of Detective Kerry's murder, two veteran FBI agents, Agent Strahm and Agent Perez, assist Detective Hoffman in sorting out the remains of Jigsaw's last game.
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Writers:
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Release Date:
26 October 2007 (USA) See more »
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It's a Trap See more »
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Despite Jigsaw's death, and in order to save the lives of two of his colleagues, Lieutenant Rigg is forced to take part in a new game, which promises to test him to the limit. Full summary » | Full synopsis »
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1 win & 6 nominations See more »
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Cast

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Tobin Bell ... Jigsaw / John Kramer

Costas Mandylor ... Lt. Mark Hoffman

Scott Patterson ... Agent Peter Strahm

Betsy Russell ... Jill Tuck

Lyriq Bent ... Lt. Daniel Rigg

Athena Karkanis ... Agent Lindsey Perez

Louis Ferreira ... Art Blank (as Justin Louis)

Simon Reynolds ... Lamanna

Donnie Wahlberg ... Eric Matthews

Angus Macfadyen ... Jeff Denlon

Shawnee Smith ... Amanda Young (archive footage)

Bahar Soomekh ... Lynn Denlon

Dina Meyer ... Detective Allison Kerry

Mike Realba ... Detective Fisk

Marty Adams ... Ivan Landsness

Sarain Boylan ... Brenda

Billy Otis ... Cecil Adams

James Van Patten ... Dr. Heffner / Coroner
David Boyce ... Pathologist

Kevin Rushton ... Trevor

Julian Richings ... Vagrant
Kelly Jones ... SWAT Pete

Ingrid Hart ... Tracy Rigg

Niamh Wilson ... Corbett Denlon
Janet Land ... Morgan

Ron Lea ... Rex

Joanne Boland ... Crime Scene Photographer
Zoe Heath ... Lab Technician
Bill Vibert ... Young Cop

Eric Gores ... Matt

Devon Bostick ... Derek

Tony Nappo ... Gus

Emmanuelle Vaugier ... Addison Corday

Noam Jenkins ... Michael Marks
Mike Butters ... Paul Leahy

J. LaRose ... Troy
Oren Koules ... The Man
Alison Luther ... Young Girl

Kim Roberts ... Nurse Deborah
David Webster ... Dr. Steve
Sandra Manson ... Nurse Patti

Shauna Black ... Additional Voice Talent (voice)

Darrell Dennis ... Additional Voice Talent (voice)
Tracey Ferencz ... Additional Voice Talent (voice)
Catherine Fitch ... Additional Voice Talent (voice)
Christopher Marren ... Additional Voice Talent (voice) (as Chris Marren)
Christopher Morris ... Additional Voice Talent (voice)

Geoffrey Pounsett ... Additional Voice Talent (voice)

Directed by
Darren Lynn Bousman 
 
Writing credits
Patrick Melton (screenplay) &
Marcus Dunstan (screenplay)

Patrick Melton (story) &
Marcus Dunstan (story) and
Thomas Fenton (story)

Produced by
Troy Begnaud .... associate producer
Peter Block .... executive producer
Mark Burg .... producer
Jason Constantine .... executive producer
Greg Copeland .... co-producer
Daniel J. Heffner .... executive producer (as Daniel Jason Heffner)
Gregg Hoffman .... producer
Oren Koules .... producer
Stacey Testro .... executive producer
James Wan .... executive producer
Leigh Whannell .... executive producer
 
Original Music by
Charlie Clouser 
 
Cinematography by
David A. Armstrong (director of photography)
 
Film Editing by
Kevin Greutert 
Brett Sullivan 
 
Casting by
Stephanie Gorin 
 
Production Design by
David Hackl 
 
Art Direction by
Anthony A. Ianni  (as Anthony Ianni)
 
Set Decoration by
Liesl Deslauriers 
 
Costume Design by
Alex Kavanagh 
 
Makeup Department
Patrick Baxter .... prosthetics
Damon Bishop .... key prosthetics assistant
Chris Bridges .... prosthetics
François Dagenais .... prosthetics makeup
Kyle Glencross .... first prosthetics assistant
Stephanie Ingram .... key hair stylist
Neil Morrill .... prosthetics
Candice Ornstein .... key makeup artist
Colin Penman .... assistant makeup artist
Vincent Sullivan .... assistant hair stylist
 
Production Management
Matt Cahill .... post-production supervisor
Greg Copeland .... production manager
 
Second Unit Director or Assistant Director
David Hackl .... second unit director
Joel Hay .... second assistant director
Nick Lopez .... trainee assistant director (as Nicholas Lopez)
Elizabeth Scherberger .... first assistant director
Karen Young .... third assistant director
 
Art Department
Sam Agro .... storyboard artist
Chris Andrews .... painter
Mike Andrews .... painter
Michael Bunt .... on set carpenter
Ronald Bunt .... carpenter (as Ron Bunt)
Jamie Burke .... construction coordinator
Garry Cain .... daily on set dresser
Douglas Catty .... carpenter
Steven Ciancamerla .... set dresser
Gord Craig .... assistant carpenter
Robert Craig .... carpenter
Brian Cranstone .... carpenter
Rebecca Dawes .... construction
Rebecca Dawes .... paint administrator
Donavon Drummond .... on set dresser (as Donovan Drummond)
Ted Dudas .... painter
Mike Dutkowski .... carpenter
Miro Dziwik .... painter (as Miroslav Dziwik)
Rick Fernandez .... head carpenter
Napoleon Forbes .... painter
Matthew Hallett .... carpenter
Victoria Hamilton .... key scenic artist
Jeff Helgason .... painter
Stefan Holmberg .... carpenter
Emily Hyde .... labourer
Michael Hyde .... carpenter
John Keenan .... carpenter
William Koon .... painter
Andrea Kristof .... art department trainee
Matthew Lammerich .... on set painter
Mark Leduc .... labourer
Brian Lumley .... carpenter
Jason Lunn .... leadman
Jeff Mawle .... daily props
Leslie McCullagh .... painter
Keith McCully .... carpenter
Brent McGillivray .... first assistant art director
Brent McGillivray .... set designer
Bill McShane .... labourer
Kari Measham .... set decoration buyer
J.D. Moore .... carpenter
Mario Moreira .... assistant property master
Mario Moreira .... props buyer
James R. Murray .... property master (as Jim Murray)
Dan O'Neill .... painter
Hubert Peddle .... carpenter
Frank Perna .... painter
Sorin Popescu .... first assistant art director
Jamie Pounder .... painter
Doug Rennie .... painter
Sean Scoffield .... graphic designer
Jay Sonderer .... head scenic painter
Cherie Spencer .... set dresser
Sven Thaysen .... carpenter
Rob Valeriote .... carpenter (as Robert Valeriote)
Al Vrkljan .... weapon specialist
John Wareing .... carpenter
Ian C. Harris .... daily construction laborer (uncredited)
 
Sound Department
Steve Baine .... foley artist
Tom Bjelic .... sound effects editor
Roberta Bratti .... project manager: sound
Christian Carruthers .... project coordinator: sound
Keith Elliott .... sound re-recording mixer
Allan Fung .... dialogue editor
Mark Gingras .... supervising sound editor
Jamie Gould .... re-recording assistant
Gina Gyles .... foley assistant (as Gina Wark)
Jason Hopfner .... boom operator
John Laing .... adr editor
Matthew McKenzie .... adr recordist
Jordan O'Neill .... DTS Sound Mastering Engineer
Michael Paterson .... optical track recordist (as Mike Paterson)
Rick Penn .... sound mixer
Jason Perreira .... re-recording assistant
Peter Persaud .... foley recordist
James Robb .... assistant sound editor (as Jimmy Robb)
John Douglas Smith .... supervising sound editor (as John D. Smith)
Andrew Tay .... sound re-recording mixer
Mark Zsifkovits .... sound re-recording mixer
Kevin Belen .... adr recordist (uncredited)
Gina Gyles .... foley assistant (uncredited)
Kevin Jette .... adr mixer (uncredited)
Sean Lacefield .... additional adr (uncredited)
Josh Machado .... assistant sound effects editor (uncredited)
Colin McLellan .... adr recordist (uncredited)
Marilee Yorston .... foley assistant (uncredited)
 
Special Effects by
Warren Appleby .... special effects coordinator
Tim Barraball .... special effects key
Terry Doyle .... special effects builder
Jason Ehl .... props builder: animatronics
Gregory Jones .... first assistant special effects
Fiona MacPherson .... special effects shop coordinator
Daniel White .... special effects foreman
John MacGillivray .... special effects (uncredited)
 
Visual Effects by
David Alexander .... cg artist: opening title
David Alexander .... senior modeller: Switch VFX
Kemal Ally .... lead tracker: Switch VFX
Don Asido .... data manager: Switch VFX (as Jun Asido)
Jon Campfens .... visual effects supervisor: Switch VFX
Min Hyun Cha .... compositor: Switch VFX
Peter Denomme .... visual effects producer: Switch VFX (as Pete Denomme)
Amir Eftekhari .... compositor: Switch VFX
Jamie Franklin .... dustbuster
Mike Habjan .... model maker: Switch VFX
Gudrun Heinze .... senior digital compositor: Switch VFX
Jason Kozsurek .... compositor: Switch VFX
Voytek Kufner .... animator: Switch VFX
Keren Kurtz .... compositor: Switch VFX
Jef Lonn .... compositor: Switch VFX
Rob MacDonald .... dustbuster (as Robert MacDonald)
Seth Martiniuk .... compositor: Switch VFX
Seth Martiniuk .... inferno artist: opening title
Beau Parsons .... visual effects coordinator: Switch VFX
Mag Sarnowska .... compositor: Switch VFX
Alison Schouten .... dustbuster
Rob Sischy .... compositor: Switch VFX
Chris Wallace .... digital intermediate colourist
Geoff Wigmore .... compositor: Switch VFX
Steve Wigmore .... compositor: Switch VFX
Greg Zajac .... compositor: Switch VFX
Barb Benoit .... digital compositor: Switch VFX (uncredited)
Tavia Charlton .... digital intermediate coordinator (uncredited)
Nils Croné .... digital effects (uncredited)
Yoga Kurniawan .... playback animator (uncredited)
 
Stunts
Marco Bianco .... stunt double: Cecil
Marco Bianco .... stunt rigger
Neil Davison .... stunt double: Art
Thomas J. Larsen .... utility stunts: wrangler
Billy Oliver .... stunt double: Eric Mathews (as Bill Oliver)
Alison Reid .... stunt coordinator
Shawn Stewart .... stunt double: Trevor (as Shawn Stuart)
Dave Van Zeyl .... stunt rigger
 
Camera and Electrical Department
Richard Berube .... electrician
Jan Brunton .... video assist operator
Thomas Care .... dolly grip (as Tom Care)
Steve Cocks .... grip
Ira Cohen .... gaffer
Adam Craig .... camera trainee
Pete Daprato .... rigging grip (as Peter Daprato)
Robert Daprato .... rigging grip
Michael Darby .... hot head technician (as Mike Darby)
Sean Dawes .... electrician
Cylvan Desrouleaux .... second assistant camera: second unit (as Cylvan Desrouleax)
Dave Ferguson .... grip
Greg Gayne .... videographer
Brian Gedge .... camera operator
James Jeffery .... camera operator: second unit
Danielle Leblanc .... playback operator: 24-frame
Kevin Michael LeBlanc .... first assistant camera (as Kevin LeBlanc)
Monty Montgomerie .... key grip
Stephen Myers .... electrician
Derek Parkes .... best boy grip
Roger Playter .... grip and lighting equipment: William F. White
Tracy Shaw .... rigging grip
Mike Smith .... camera crane technician
Ernest Spiteri .... first assistant camera: second unit
Christopher Takacs .... best boy electrician (as Chris Takacs)
Blain Thrush .... second assistant camera: second unit
Steve Van Denzen .... grip
Philip Charles Whitfield .... electrician (as Phil Whitfield)
Steve Wilkie .... still photographer
Mike Williams .... second assistant camera
Richard Berube .... lighting technician (uncredited)
Jamie Hodgson .... rigging electrician (uncredited)
 
Casting Department
Jane Rogers .... extras casting
Kathleen Howell .... casting associate (uncredited)
Misha Rasaiah .... casting assistant (uncredited)
Karen Williams .... casting associate (uncredited)
 
Costume and Wardrobe Department
Ciara Brennan .... costume coordinator
Karen Eppstadt .... key costume breakdown artist
Gerri Gillan .... wardrobe buyer
Leslie Kavanagh .... wardrobe set supervisor
Stephanie Lees .... assistant costume designer
Roslyn Hanchard .... costume buyer (uncredited)
Adam Smith .... costume prop (uncredited)
Bonnie Sutherland .... wardrobe assistant (uncredited)
 
Editorial Department
Diane Brunjes .... additional editor
Tavia Charlton .... digital intermediate coordinator: Deluxe
Chad Glastonbury .... assistant editor
Jeff Hocken .... telecine suite operator
Nick Iannelli .... digital intermediate producer: Deluxe
Trevor Lewis .... digital intermediate scanner and recorder
Chris MacKenzie .... digital intermediate editor
Chris MacKenzie .... digital opticals
Tom Mayclim .... negative cutter: Exact Cut
Dave Muscat .... digital intermediate editor
Dave Muscat .... digital opticals
Nick Paulozza .... digital intermediate scanner and recorder
Valoen Power .... post-production: Lionsgate
Ryan Ruskay .... color timer: dailies
Danny St. Pierre .... post-production: Lionsgate
Bob Wenokur .... post-production: Lionsgate
 
Music Department
Charlie Clouser .... music mixer
Charlie Clouser .... music recordist
Charlie Clouser .... original score performer
Peter Freeman .... original score performer
Eric Gorfain .... music arranger: strings on main theme
Paul Intson .... music editor
Yvonne McDonald .... music clearances
Jonathan McHugh .... music supervisor
Jonathan Scott Miller .... music supervisor
Jonathan Platt .... music supervisor
Chas Smith .... original score performer
Ruwanga 'Ru' Samath .... composer: additional music (uncredited)
 
Transportation Department
Eddie Bowman .... transportation coordinator
Mike Bowman .... driver
Frank Eldridge .... transportation co-captain
Ryan Eldridge .... driver
Joe Hall .... transportation captain
Paul Marshall .... special effects driver
Marty Monro .... construction driver (as Marty Munro)
Doug Perry .... driver
Evan Siegel .... set dec driver
Regina Petrik .... daily driver (uncredited)
 
Other crew
Horace Abel .... stand-in
Charlyn Adkins .... business affairs: Lionsgate
Dean A. Avedon .... accounting services: Twisted Pictures
Adam Bialow .... business affairs: Lionsgate
Dillon Bowman .... production assistant
Anne Marie Boysen .... international sales: Lionsgate
Gary Brown .... project manager: picture
Ralph Bruzzese .... location security: Concepts International
Dorothy Burg .... travel services: Linden Travel
Andrew Byrne .... security
Miguel Casillas .... marketing: Lionsgate
Cristin L. Cornett .... production coordinator (as Cristin L. Becker)
Kym Crepin .... production accountant
Stephanie Denton .... international sales: Lionsgate
John Doyle .... caterer: Catering by David's
Tricia Edwardson .... production assistant
Yon Elvira .... marketing: Lionsgate
Andrew Finch .... security
Alan Fraser .... film negative stock: Fuji Film Canada
Shyama Friedenson .... marketing: Lionsgate
Yerusalem Ghebrhwet .... set medic (as Yerusalem Ghebrhiwet)
Sarah Greenberg .... marketing: Lionsgate
Lisa Gyorfi .... production secretary
David Heys .... security
Kathryn Hughes .... set production assistant
Ryan Hupponen .... assistant production coordinator
Tess Jackson-Spentzos .... production assistant
Wendy Jaffe .... business affairs: Lionsgate
Chela Johnson .... marketing: Lionsgate
Kaleigh Kavanagh .... assistant: Dan Heffner
Jane Kim .... assistant: Darren Bousman
David Kinnersly .... craft service: Star Grazing
Darren Kotania .... film negative stock: Fuji Film Canada
Eda Kowan .... acquisitions: Lionsgate
Amy Lennie .... script research: The Rights Company
Wayne Levin .... business affairs: Lionsgate
Stephanie Lewis .... acquisitions: Lionsgate
Roger Lumyoung .... assistant location manager
Roger Lumyoung .... studio manager
Darren Martin .... craft server
Aubrey McClure .... marketing: Lionsgate
Julie McLeod .... stand-in
Kelly Mikolovich .... caterer
Ashleigh Millar .... craft service
Darlene Milley .... insurance broker: AON/Ruben-Winkler Entertainment Insurance Brokers
David Mintz .... caterer: Catering by David's
D. Jim Mirkopoulos .... studio staff: Cinespace Studios (as Jim Mirkopoulos)
Steve Mirkopoulos .... studio staff: Cinespace Studios
Joey Monteiro .... international sales: Lionsgate
Stacey Mooradian .... marketing: Lionsgate
Tom Ortenberg .... marketing: Lionsgate
Tim Palen .... Co-President, Theatrical Marketing: Lionsgate
Jim Panno .... medic services: Panno Therapeutic
Anne Parducci .... marketing: Lionsgate
Kate Phillips .... set medic
Marc Primiani .... legal counsel: Twisted Pictures
Pauline K. Quong .... payroll accountant (as Pauline Quong)
Tammi Robinson .... key accountant: Twisted Pictures
Erick Salomon .... assistant: Mark Burg & Oren Koules
Erika Schimik .... marketing: Lionsgate
John Shone .... location production assistant
John Sinopoli .... location support: Film Inc.
Carla Spizziri .... first assistant accountant
Justine Stevenson .... office affairs: Twisted Pictures
Bob Tarantino .... company production counsel: Heenan Blaikie
John Teixeira .... location production assistant
Elizabeth Tremblay .... script supervisor
Bill Vibert .... stand-in
Marvin Waxman .... physician (as Dr. Marvin Waxman)
Kris Wood .... playback coordinator: Tellavision
Kris Wood .... playback supervisor
Wendy Benge .... production attorney (uncredited)
Chris Farquhar .... photo double (uncredited)
Jesse Korosi .... playback editor (uncredited)
Brad McIlroy .... on-set caterer (uncredited)
Michael McNaughton .... photo double (uncredited)
Al Vrkljan .... tactical consultant (uncredited)
 
Thanks
Laura Bousman .... special thanks
 

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MPAA:
Rated R for sequences of grisly bloody violence and torture throughout, and for language
Runtime:
93 min | 96 min (unrated director's cut)
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Certification:
Argentina:18 | Australia:R18+ (original rating) | Australia:MA15+ (re-rating on appeal) | Austria:18 | Brazil:18 | Canada:18A (Alberta/British Columbia/Manitoba/Ontario) | Canada:16+ (Quebec) | Canada:18+ (TV rating) | Chile:14 | Denmark:16 | Finland:K-18 (self applied) | France:-16 (with warning) | Germany:18 (cut) | Hong Kong:III | Ireland:18 | Italy:VM14 | Japan:R-15 | Malaysia:(Banned) | Netherlands:16 | New Zealand:R18 | Norway:18 | Peru:18 | Philippines:R-13 (MTRCB) | Portugal:M/18 | Russia:18+ | Singapore:R21 | South Africa:16LV (DVD rating) | South Africa:18 (theatrical rating) | South Korea:18 | Spain:18 | Sweden:15 | Switzerland:18 (canton of Geneva) | Switzerland:18 (canton of Vaud) | Taiwan:R-18 | UK:18 | USA:R | USA:Unrated (director's cut)
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Trivia:
Spent only 5 weeks in pre-production. Post-production took up 2 months.See more »
Goofs:
Continuity: When Rigg arrives at the shop, the clock shows 1:16. But, at a second look, it's 3:46See more »
Quotes:
[first lines]
Pathologist:Subject's name is John Kramer. 52 year old male; Caucasian. He's seen better days.
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Soundtrack:
I.V.See more »

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Do the "Saw" movies stem from a book?
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Is the fate of Dr. Lawrence Gordon revealed?
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187 out of 305 people found the following review useful.
The SAW Franchise finally descends into absurdity., 27 October 2007
Author: Matt_Layden from Canada

Jigsaw is dead, but his game is far from over. A detective is on the hunt for clues around the city, in which he must act in the same manner as Jigsaw with the victims he finds. He must do this in order to find the location of two of his colleagues and save them.

It's easy to see how the SAW franchise, as it is now called, is turning into the same mess that struck Friday the 13th, Halloween and Nightmare On Elm Street. The story is over, but the cash flow still has some juice in it. In this installment Jigsaw is dead, but his cruel game continues. How you might ask? Well, if I were to explain that, it would ruin the film, but it's hard to review this film without leaking something.

The original SAW redefined the horror genre, so much so that there are now countless imitators. It packed the goods in gore and a shocking twist at the end. The sequel, which really was not needed, tried to capitalize on the same system. It failed. Yet still made boatloads of money. Hence the 3rd, and this film and of course the next one. SAW IV becomes a parody of itself, unintentionally mind you. It tries to re-capture the essence of the original from plot points to the twist, which is a staple in the series now. Why SAW IV doesn't work as well as it wants to, is because it's far too confusing and doesn't satisfy it's audience, instead it leaves more holes, that will be filled in by it's sequel, much like how this one filled in some from the 3rd.

SAW IV answers the questions, such as who the blonde woman was in Jigsaw's dreams and why he covered the tape in wax. Yet leaves out other things, specifically what the letter said to Amanda. It could have easily been explained, but they wanted to leave as much story as possible to continue this franchise, which should have been over at 1 and could have been wrapped up completely with 3. This leaves the audience confused, as well as angry. When the final credits rolled up I sat back in my chair and asked myself if they really answered anything as to why it ended the way it did…it doesn't. It throws in that twist that is expected, but doesn't bother to explain it. I guess we have to wait another year to find out why things happened the way they did.

SAW IV is gory, probably the worst out of all of them, but not quite as nerve flinching as the others. It doesn't have any scenes that make you squirm in your seat like when Dr. Gordon saws off his foot, or when Amanda falls into the pit full of needles, or even when Detective Matthews smashes hiss foot with the toilet cover. Those small things are the ones that get the audience; this film simply shows the bloody entrails of people.

I will give credit to where it's due. The film stays consistent with the others and I applause the actors and writers for continuing certain characters through out the entire series. It gives fans goose bumps when they see a familiar face. Also, the twist, which fails in comparison to the first two but it better then the third, is adequate. In fact there is more then one twist. We also get some more background history on Jigsaw, who he was before he became a psychopath. A little hint as to why as well.

We can't connect to any of these characters. Characters from the previous films that show up here, have very little screen time and are killed off. Why have them survive through all this stuff just to kill them off. It cheapens the films in which we root for them to live; we know their fate in the end. There may have been characters that you cared for in previous installments that were trapped in Jigsaw's game, this time around, unless you knew them from before, we know their fate, we know we don't care.

The ending will confuse the hell out of a lot of people; I had to take a minute to figure it out myself. Maybe because it was really well written, or horrible executed, I haven't decided yet. I found myself sitting there with a confused look across my face, wanting more, not simply because I wanted more, but because the film needed more. The film has a lot of stuff going on, it's not to know who' who, who's dead, what's going on where and so on.If you've missed one film in the series, you will most likely be lost in this film. It asks you, as do the others, to pay attention to the previous films. I really enjoy that; it asks the audience to think a little bit, which is usually missing from horror films these days.

It's a tad better then the second and third, but falls apart near the end. This time around we can't seem to care for the guy whose trapped in Jigsaw's mind game. We've come to expect the unexpected, we've comes to be grossed out. Have the makers of this series run their course? Well, after the next film, to tie everything up, I hope the answer is yes. The first is still the best and I cannot imagine the next one being any better.

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