Stargate SG-1: Season 8, Episode 15

Citizen Joe (18 Feb. 2005)

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A man breaks into Jack's house and hold him at gunpoint claiming that Jack ruined his life. Seven years ago he came upon an Ancient artifact at a garage sale that allows him to see all of SG-1's missions.



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Episode cast overview, first billed only:
Mark Hansen ...
Beatrice Zeilanger ...
Cindy (as Beatrice Zeilinger)
Peter Williams ...
Apophis (archive footage)
Skaara / Klorel (archive footage)


Seven years ago Joe Spencer, a small town barber, bought a strange looking stone at a yard sale. Every time he touches the device, he has a vision of the SG-1 team and a mission they've undertaken. Over time, he becomes very involved in what he sees. He tells the stories to family and friends, couching it in terms of a science fiction story he's developed. He even tries to make contact with Jack O'Neill, but with little success. As his obsession with SG-1 grows, his friends become bored with it all and his wife leaves him. With little to lose, he tracks down Jack who seems to know exactly what he's talking about. Written by garykmcd

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The "For Sale" sign seen outside the house of Joe Spencer (Dan Castellaneta) is the same one seen in "Threads" with some flyers stuck to it. See more »


Joe's employee Gordie mentions that he dropped off an application at the local Piggly Wiggly. There are no Piggly Wigglys in Indiana where the episode is set. See more »


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4 August 2010 | by (France) – See all my reviews

I find it very hard to give a mark to this episode. It begins rather dramatically with a man holding O'Neill at gunpoint. Then the tone completely changes as we go back to the beginnings of the series -and of Joe's problems- to follow his family life, his job as a barber and his accidental discovery of a Goa'uld device which allows him to literally watch SG1's adventures. Soon this innocuous hobby turns into a life-altering obsession, and Joe loses his family and his job as he is unable to prove that his "stories" are real.

So basically, it's the story of a SG1 fan who gets to meet the real thing. A variation on "the Other Guys".

Incidentally, this means that once again, we spend a good part of the episode reminiscing (guess what, this is the freebee episode this year). Fortunately, we don't get to re-watch the same old sequences that had already appeared in Politics, Disclosure, Inauguration &co: for once, the reminiscing focuses on different events. And on the whole it is rather fun to watch Joe's reactions to some dramatic events, and to compare them with our own.

But still. When all is said and done, I've just spent 40mn watching a guy watch Stargate SG1. Now I'm all for mises en abyme, especially when they are spiced with a dose of self-derision; but I tend to like my plots and characters a bit more fleshed out. And don't even get me started on the *glaring* plot hole that comes with the "explanation" (HOW could O'Neill not notice?!). The scriptwriters didn"t even make a token attempt at hiding it, and settled for turning it into a non sequituur joke. Sorry guys: lampshading it doesn't make it less of a plot hole.

So even though Citizen Joe was oddly fun to watch, I'll go with a rather so-so mark because it really felt like fan-fiction rather than like a real, honest-to-God SG1 episode. Obviously, you are free to disagree and decide that you like the high-concept thing. (Edit: obviously someone decided to take me up on that one ^^)

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