Forgiving (15 Apr. 2002)

With Connor trapped in a hell dimension, Angel is willing to do anything to rescue him... Even make a deal with Wolfram and Hart. Meanwhile, Fred and Gunn search for Wes, who is gravely ... See full summary »

Director:

Turi Meyer

Writers:

Joss Whedon (creator), David Greenwalt (creator),

Stars:

David Boreanaz, Charisma Carpenter, Alexis Denisof

Cast

Episode cast overview:
David Boreanaz	...	Angel
Charisma Carpenter	...	Cordelia Chase (credit only)
Alexis Denisof	...	Wesley Wyndam-Pryce
J. August Richards	...	Charles Gunn
Amy Acker	...	Winifred 'Fred' Burkle
John Rubinstein	...	Linwood Murrow
Andy Hallett	...	Lorne
Laurel Holloman	...	Justine Cooper
Stephanie Romanov	...	Lilah Morgan
Jack Conley	...	Sahjhan
Kay Panabaker	...	Girl
Kenneth Dolin	...	Bum
Tripp Pickell	...	Holtzian
Sean Mahon	...	Truck Driver

Storyline

With Connor trapped in a hell dimension, Angel is willing to do anything to rescue him... Even make a deal with Wolfram and Hart. Meanwhile, Fred and Gunn search for Wes, who is gravely wounded. As Angel tries to save Connor, he learns some terrible new information about the prophecy.

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Genres:

Action | Drama | Fantasy | Thriller

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Certificate:

TV-14

Details

Country:

USA

Language:

English

Release Date:

15 April 2002 (USA)

Filming Locations:

Paramount Studios - 5555 Melrose Avenue, Hollywood, Los Angeles, California, USA

Company Credits

Production Co:

Mutant Enemy, David Greenwalt Productions, Kuzui Enterprises

Technical Specs

Runtime:

43 min

Sound Mix:

Dolby Digital

Color:

Color

Aspect Ratio:

16:9 HD

Did You Know?

Trivia

This is the first episode that features the "White Room," an inter-dimensional gateway that allows communication with the Senior Partners. Charles Gunn will have access to it more in Season 5.

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Quotes

Sahjhan: Angel. I guess I have you to thank for the whole mortal coil thing. Making me corporeal once again.
Angel: Yeah. I'll tell you what. You take me to the Quor'toth world, help me find my son, we'll call it even.
Sahjhan: Really? You and me? Buddy cops, latest summer release movie. We iron out our wacky differences and bond? Don't think so.
Angel: You're taking me there.
Sahjhan: Couldn't even if I wanted to.
Angel: You're lying.
Sahjhan: No, I'm telling you the truth about that. Your kid's gone for good. I can open the Quor'toth exactly one ...

User Reviews

Team Angel rent asunder

FORGIVING

The Good; Some great acting from Amy Acker as Fred is horrified that Connor has been lost to a portal, just as she was. The little girl in the White Room is a really creepy little moppet.

The Bad; Gunn and the orderlies seem to overpower Angel at the hospital very easily (although I guess that settles the whole question of Angelus' confrontation with Xander in 'Killed by death'. Thinking back on the cops/security guards in that scene would probably have had tasers which is weapon that seems to affect vamps a lot. Although bullets are no joke to them either)

Best line: Angel; (heartbroken) "Cordy will be back soon, with presents for Connor"

Jeez, how did they get away with that? Lilah cutting her hand just like Darla, the whole 'women cope better with pain' idea certainly gets a lot of mileage in Joss's shows. Angel meanwhile prepares to stick a needle in Linwood's eye. Angel attempts to smother Wes and is quite prepared to kill Lilah to get his son back. Justine is beaten to a pulp, so much so that even Gunn feels sorry for her. Fred using the hot coals against Sahjhan is pretty damn ruthless.

Apocalypses: 5

Angel Clichés Inverting the Hollywood cliché; we think Angel will forgive Wes after he's so compassionate to the poor guy at the accident but oh boy he doesn't! Sahjahn mocks the standard Hollywood buddy-cop thriller. AI are getting hammered by Sahjahn but get saved by Justine?

In disguise; 8

DB get's his shirt off; 12

Cheap Angel; 9

Fang Gang in bondage: Cordy: 5 Angel: 11 Wes: 6 Gunn; 4 Lorne; 3 Fred; 2

Fang gang knocked out: Cordy: 11 Angel: 14 Wes: 5 Doyle; 1 Gunn; 1 Lorne; 4

Kills: Cordy: 5 vamps, 3 demons Angel; 39 vamps, 57 and 1/2 demons, 7 humans Doyle; 1 vamp Wes; 12 demons+3 vamps, 2 humans Kate; 3 vamps Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans. Gunn; 10 vamps+ 10 demons. Groo; 1 demon Fred; 1 vamp

Fang Gang go evil: Cordy: 2 Angel: 2 Gunn; 1 Wes; 1

Alternate Fang Gang: Cordy: 2 Angel: 8

Characters killed: 46

Recurring characters killed; 8;

Total number of Angel Investigations: 7, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn, Fred, Lorne and Groo

Angel Investigations shot: Angel: 11 Wes; 1

Packing heat; Gunn refers to the shotgun Wes keeps that we saw in Epiphany Wes; 6 Doyle; 1 Angel; 2 Gunn; 1

Notches on Fang Gang bedpost: Cordy: 4 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis+Groo Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde Gunn; 1 Fred Fred; 1 Gunn Groo; 1Cordy

Kinky dinky: Angel tell Justine he isn't her boyfriend and she should find someone else to smack her around.

Captain Subtext; Sahjhan once again demonstrates his insecurity about his masculinity, insisting he flitted in a 'manly way'

Know the face, different character; 4

Parking garages; 5,

Guantanamo Bay; Linwood get's kidnapped and threatened with torture

Buffy characters on Angel; 16 Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony

Questions and observations; Shouldn't Linwood know who Lorne is? Surely Lorne's concern for humans and disregard for 'slimy demons' is hypocritical. Like any good Watcher Wes keeps comprehensive diaries. Why do people always cut the palm of their hands in films? Surely that's one of the most sensitive parts?

Marks out of 10; 8/10 here comes the emotional pain but it's SUPREMELY well done.