I have never embraced holiday episodes of shows. Hitchcock actually speaks disdainfully of this in the opening segment. He is bricking up his fireplace, hoping to injure Santa Claus whom he finds arrogant and tiresome. We go to the episode, where Barry Fitzgerald plays a small time thief who is forced into playing Santa at a department store. He is tough and irreverent and gives the kids a bad time. A female social worker latches on to him and makes him toe the line. Of course, the Christmas spirit eventually gets to him. He acts, even at the risk of his freedom. The nice thing about this episode is that he maintains his hard edge and it doesn't get too sappy. Fitzgerald is a wonderful character actor and made this role his own. It works pretty well, all things considered.
Alfred Hitchcock Presents (TV Series)
Santa Claus and the Tenth Avenue Kid (1955)
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Hitchcock meets Christmas
TheLittleSongbird9 February 2022
It was very interesting to see "Santa Claus and the Tenth Avenue Kid", with it being such a big change of pace up to this still early stage of 'Alfred Hitchcock Presents'. Instead of the usual mystery, thriller and psychological type episodes, the story here is more of the sentimental kind. And even after the series ended, this is an episode that stands out from the rest tonally. Barry Fitzgerald was always well worth watching, especially in the curmudgeonly charm sort of roles.
While not one of the best episodes of Season 1 or of 'Alfred Hitchcock Presents' overall, "Santa Claus and the Tenth Avenue Kid" is still very good in its own way. Tonally it may stick out like a sore thumb, with it being so far removed from what was usually seen with the series before and since. But doing something different doesn't mean automatically that it's bad, have seen a lot of changes of pace done very well. "Santa Claus and the Tenth Avenue Kid" does its change of pace very well.
Did feel that Virginia Gregg's character was underwritten and that she was given too little to do.
How it all ends is never really in doubt and it was a touch too on the convenient side.
Fitzgerald however is absolutely wonderful in a role that is letter perfect for him, he gives it a curmudgeonly charm that he was so great at and one of the best actors at that time to do it and also a hard edge that fits the petty criminal side of the character expertly too. Bobby Clark is not cloying or too childish and he brings heart to the episode. As does the chemistry between him and Fitzgerald. Hitchcock's sardonic bookendings are a joy here and it was very interesting hearing what he had to say about the episode.
Moreover, "Santa Claus and the Tenth Avenue Kid" is very nicely made, if not the most visually inspired episodes due to it being different from the usual. It is niftily directed, where sentimentality is kept at bay and the slight story still has energy and momentum. Nice use of music and the theme tune is one of the best uses of pre-existing classical music on television in my view. The script is concise and thoughtful, with it having a heart while never being sugary sweet. The story is slight but incredibly charming yet also has some edge.
In summary, very good if not one of the best 'Alfred Hitchcock Presents' episodes. 8/10.
While not one of the best episodes of Season 1 or of 'Alfred Hitchcock Presents' overall, "Santa Claus and the Tenth Avenue Kid" is still very good in its own way. Tonally it may stick out like a sore thumb, with it being so far removed from what was usually seen with the series before and since. But doing something different doesn't mean automatically that it's bad, have seen a lot of changes of pace done very well. "Santa Claus and the Tenth Avenue Kid" does its change of pace very well.
Did feel that Virginia Gregg's character was underwritten and that she was given too little to do.
How it all ends is never really in doubt and it was a touch too on the convenient side.
Fitzgerald however is absolutely wonderful in a role that is letter perfect for him, he gives it a curmudgeonly charm that he was so great at and one of the best actors at that time to do it and also a hard edge that fits the petty criminal side of the character expertly too. Bobby Clark is not cloying or too childish and he brings heart to the episode. As does the chemistry between him and Fitzgerald. Hitchcock's sardonic bookendings are a joy here and it was very interesting hearing what he had to say about the episode.
Moreover, "Santa Claus and the Tenth Avenue Kid" is very nicely made, if not the most visually inspired episodes due to it being different from the usual. It is niftily directed, where sentimentality is kept at bay and the slight story still has energy and momentum. Nice use of music and the theme tune is one of the best uses of pre-existing classical music on television in my view. The script is concise and thoughtful, with it having a heart while never being sugary sweet. The story is slight but incredibly charming yet also has some edge.
In summary, very good if not one of the best 'Alfred Hitchcock Presents' episodes. 8/10.
Charmingly curmudgeonly.
planktonrules17 February 2021
This Christmas episode of "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" is interesting as it's the first comedy episode AND it's the most anti-Christmas Christmas show I can recall! Barry Fitzgerald stars as 'Stretch' Sears, a five-time loser who has been given a job as a department store Santa as part of his 'rehabilitation'. However, Stretch has about as much Christmas spirit as a bad case of halitosis...and he has no interest in being Santa-like in any way. And, when he deals with the kids, he's pretty awful...especially at first. Over time, he softens a bit but this guy never has the magical Grinch transformation....just a tiny one, as, after all, he's a career criminal.
While there really isn't much of a message or meaning to all this, amidst the usually sappy holiday fare, this is a welcome relief...albeit very grouchy! Barry Fitzgerald is wonderful in the lead and his nasty persona is, oddly, rather funny to watch. Oddly cast is Virginia Gregg, who often played scum on "Dragnet" as well as a disreputable character earlier in season one of "Alfred Hitchcock Presents"!
While there really isn't much of a message or meaning to all this, amidst the usually sappy holiday fare, this is a welcome relief...albeit very grouchy! Barry Fitzgerald is wonderful in the lead and his nasty persona is, oddly, rather funny to watch. Oddly cast is Virginia Gregg, who often played scum on "Dragnet" as well as a disreputable character earlier in season one of "Alfred Hitchcock Presents"!
Very Nice Change-Of-Pace Episode
Snow Leopard23 February 2006
This is a very nice change-of-pace episode of "Alfred Hitchcock Presents", with a typically good starring performance by Barry Fitzgerald, plus Virginia Gregg and child actor Bobby Clark getting some good moments of their own during their scenes of give-and-take with Fitzgerald. The story combines a relatively standard holiday theme with a dose of practical cynicism, and Hitchcock himself adds to it with his sardonic opening and closing remarks.
The story actually has a positive theme to it, and the more sarcastic moments actually serve to make the upbeat point more believable. The setup has Fitzgerald as a recently paroled petty criminal, who is given holiday employment as a department store 'Santa Claus'. Gregg is the overly cheerful employment agent who takes an interest in him, while Clark is a bad-tempered boy whom the equally grouchy 'Santa' views as a personal challenge. The story line is concise and the script is carefully written, fitting perfectly into the half-hour television format.
Fitzgerald was excellent at portraying this kind of hardened character who nevertheless has something good somewhere inside him. He makes the character likable and sympathetic even when he is behaving in a disreputable fashion, and he never overdoes things in either direction. There are many similar holiday-themed features that are based on similar ideas, yet this one is still worth seeing for the simple yet skillful way that it presents its story and its characters.
The story actually has a positive theme to it, and the more sarcastic moments actually serve to make the upbeat point more believable. The setup has Fitzgerald as a recently paroled petty criminal, who is given holiday employment as a department store 'Santa Claus'. Gregg is the overly cheerful employment agent who takes an interest in him, while Clark is a bad-tempered boy whom the equally grouchy 'Santa' views as a personal challenge. The story line is concise and the script is carefully written, fitting perfectly into the half-hour television format.
Fitzgerald was excellent at portraying this kind of hardened character who nevertheless has something good somewhere inside him. He makes the character likable and sympathetic even when he is behaving in a disreputable fashion, and he never overdoes things in either direction. There are many similar holiday-themed features that are based on similar ideas, yet this one is still worth seeing for the simple yet skillful way that it presents its story and its characters.
"Jolly is as jolly does, you know"
classicsoncall15 July 2021
Warning: Spoilers
The first problem I had with this episode was the casting of kindly and loveable Barry Fitzgerald in the role of a sourpuss pickpocket, on parole after robbing his fifth victim. How could you do that to Father Fitzgibbon from "Going My Way"? He does go with the role in commendable fashion, but I think the screen writers missed a good opportunity to make this a poignant Christmas message story. You get the idea that 'Stretch' Sears (Fitzgerald) is going to teach the 'Tenth Avenue Kid' (Bobby Clark) an important life lesson by not resorting to the kind of petty crime that he himself resorted to by growing up without parents. But then, after sending the boy on his way to think things over, he steals the airplane from his temporary employer! That employer by the way, was Sampson and Cole, a department store in the city that hired a 'Sears' as a Santa Claus! Any irony there?
Even Hitchcock himself throws shade on the idea of Christmas with his opening monologue while he's setting a trap for Santa Claus coming down the chimney. I don't know if he was like that in real life, but it seemed to have sent the wrong message about the spirit of the season. What I'd like to do is recommend an episode of The Twilight Zone that aired almost exactly five years later called 'The Night of the Meek'. It's a story in which Art Carney portrays a man named Henry Corwin, who states "Just on one Christmas, I'd like to see the meek inherit the Earth". There's a richness to his character that shows through Carney's performance, pointing to the true meaning of Christmas in a way that's missing in this story, even if by it's end, old Barry finally got that little twinkle in his eye.
Even Hitchcock himself throws shade on the idea of Christmas with his opening monologue while he's setting a trap for Santa Claus coming down the chimney. I don't know if he was like that in real life, but it seemed to have sent the wrong message about the spirit of the season. What I'd like to do is recommend an episode of The Twilight Zone that aired almost exactly five years later called 'The Night of the Meek'. It's a story in which Art Carney portrays a man named Henry Corwin, who states "Just on one Christmas, I'd like to see the meek inherit the Earth". There's a richness to his character that shows through Carney's performance, pointing to the true meaning of Christmas in a way that's missing in this story, even if by it's end, old Barry finally got that little twinkle in his eye.
You Better Watch Out
ExplorerDS678924 December 2020
Warning: Spoilers
This is the story of Harold "Stretch" Sears, thief and con artist who has been jailed five times, and is finally getting out on parole, which he is constantly reminded can be revoked at any point. The first thing to do to get Sears back on the straight and narrow is finding him suitable employment, as they don't need any more ex-cons on welfare. His peppy case worker, Miss Webster, has found him the perfect temporary job at a local department store and says it can grow into something more permanent. Unfortunately, when Sears found out he would be playing Santa Claus, he probably began to miss being in stir. I guess department stores played more loosely with hiring policies in the 1950s, as they hire an ex-con to play Santa. This pre-dates Billy Bob Thornton's Bad Santa by five decades. So the personnel director runs Sears through the routine, let a child sit on his lap, tell him what they want, and if it's a piece of merchandise in the store, point the parents in that direction. Decked out in his jolly reds, a reluctant Sears goes about his task. Unfortunately, "Santa" gets off to a bad start when he tries to pilfer some silverware. Old habits die hard. Then all the kids file in and stare at him like he's Swamp Thing. He belligerently asks what they want for Christmas, and a shy little girl asks for some girly things and a few pets, and a little boy wants a nifty model plane that he sees his father playing with, and it even has realistic backfiring. However, "Santa" must deny the request after he sees the father shaking his head. Probably 'cause Dad wants it all for himself. That boy isn't the only one who wanted that model plane, as Sears' next customer is a little preteen smart-ass who calls him a fake right to his face. Oh, and I found it odd that Sears wonders to himself, "how did he get in here?" when he first sees that boy. I mean, he doesn't look that much older than the other kids, and he wasn't seen prior to this moment. Very odd. Well, needless to say Sears' first day on the job was trying, and he swore he'd had enough. He makes this abundantly clear to cheery Miss Webster who came to pick him up, but after having to endure his complaints for so long, she drops her sweetness facade and basically tells him to suck it up and that she's not very fond of him either.
Well, it was finally Christmas Eve, just one more day and Sears would finally receive his pay, then he could do what he pleased. So, after a marathon of kids telling him what they'd like under their trees, it was finally time to receive his dues... instead of having to pay them. Unfortunately, what Sears found in lieu of a check was a note from Miss Webster telling him she collected his funds and deposited them into a savings account. I agree with him when he says that was low, dirty and underhanded, however it will be a good thing she did that, as we'll find out later. But for now, with no money in his pocket and another few hours of annoying kids, Sears was distraught and lost what little joy he had in his work. Matters weren't helped when the plane admiring brat came back. They get to talking and Sears actually finds himself goaded into actually giving the boy the plane, at first it's to shut him up, but then it was to make the boy behave, as he had noticed his bulging pockets and realized he was another little Harold "Stretch" Sears in the making. So the boy gives him his address, then forks over the stolen goods and leaves. Well, what was Santa to do now? The store was closed and he hadn't any money. Only one thing to do: purloin the plane and dash out like a thief in the night. That store must be very watchful over their merchandise, because no sooner does Sears deliver the gift on Tenth Ave than a cop is outside waiting for him. Either it was about the robbery, or they finally found out he was serial killer U.N. Owen. Anyway, just as his parole officer was berating him for making him come down to the police station on Christmas Eve, Miss Webster arrives to try and defend Sears. When she hears why he did what he did, she offers up his money which she kept because the banks were closed, and so the plane was paid for and Sears hadn't violated his parole... just bent it a little. So touched was he by this act of generosity as well as his own good deed, Harold "Stretch" Sears was like a new man, so I think everything is going to work out fine for him.
Classic episode of Alfred Hitchcock Presents, and is even bookended by Mr. Hitchcock bricking up his chimney to keep certain persons from dropping in uninvited. Very good story, good plot, and fantastic acting by Barry Fitzgerald, a revered character actor in his day. I'm wondering if the makers of Bad Santa were inspired by this episode, as well as Bob Rivers when he wrote the song "I'm Dressing Up Like Santa Claus on Christmas (As Soon as I Get Out on Parole)". This Christmas episode of Alfred Hitchcock Presents is similar to The Twilight Zone's "Night of the Meek" where Art Carney plays a bum Santa Claus who finds a magic sack full of presents, which he gives out to people, only to later discover it was the real Santa's sack, and Art has a new job lined up for him. Another episode of a thriller series with a happy ending. So, this Christmas, I recommend Santa Claus and the Tenth Avenue Kid. Very nicely made and it captures the spirit of Christmas.
Well, it was finally Christmas Eve, just one more day and Sears would finally receive his pay, then he could do what he pleased. So, after a marathon of kids telling him what they'd like under their trees, it was finally time to receive his dues... instead of having to pay them. Unfortunately, what Sears found in lieu of a check was a note from Miss Webster telling him she collected his funds and deposited them into a savings account. I agree with him when he says that was low, dirty and underhanded, however it will be a good thing she did that, as we'll find out later. But for now, with no money in his pocket and another few hours of annoying kids, Sears was distraught and lost what little joy he had in his work. Matters weren't helped when the plane admiring brat came back. They get to talking and Sears actually finds himself goaded into actually giving the boy the plane, at first it's to shut him up, but then it was to make the boy behave, as he had noticed his bulging pockets and realized he was another little Harold "Stretch" Sears in the making. So the boy gives him his address, then forks over the stolen goods and leaves. Well, what was Santa to do now? The store was closed and he hadn't any money. Only one thing to do: purloin the plane and dash out like a thief in the night. That store must be very watchful over their merchandise, because no sooner does Sears deliver the gift on Tenth Ave than a cop is outside waiting for him. Either it was about the robbery, or they finally found out he was serial killer U.N. Owen. Anyway, just as his parole officer was berating him for making him come down to the police station on Christmas Eve, Miss Webster arrives to try and defend Sears. When she hears why he did what he did, she offers up his money which she kept because the banks were closed, and so the plane was paid for and Sears hadn't violated his parole... just bent it a little. So touched was he by this act of generosity as well as his own good deed, Harold "Stretch" Sears was like a new man, so I think everything is going to work out fine for him.
Classic episode of Alfred Hitchcock Presents, and is even bookended by Mr. Hitchcock bricking up his chimney to keep certain persons from dropping in uninvited. Very good story, good plot, and fantastic acting by Barry Fitzgerald, a revered character actor in his day. I'm wondering if the makers of Bad Santa were inspired by this episode, as well as Bob Rivers when he wrote the song "I'm Dressing Up Like Santa Claus on Christmas (As Soon as I Get Out on Parole)". This Christmas episode of Alfred Hitchcock Presents is similar to The Twilight Zone's "Night of the Meek" where Art Carney plays a bum Santa Claus who finds a magic sack full of presents, which he gives out to people, only to later discover it was the real Santa's sack, and Art has a new job lined up for him. Another episode of a thriller series with a happy ending. So, this Christmas, I recommend Santa Claus and the Tenth Avenue Kid. Very nicely made and it captures the spirit of Christmas.
"Santa Claus and the Tenth Avenue Kid" a sentimental piece
chuck-reilly23 July 2013
Warning: Spoilers
Behind the grim face and dour manner, Alfred Hitchcock could be a sentimentalist of the highest order. This Christmas entry is a prime example of that facet of his multi-layered personality. "Santa Claus..." predates Rod Serling's "Night of the Meek" by several years, but the plots are similar as is the moral to the story. Both episodes involve a department store Santa Claus, in this case, famous character actor Barry Fitzgerald. He is an ex-con on parole who is given some temporary employment in an expensive Macy's-like store by a cloying (at least to him at first) parole officer's assistant played by Virgina Gregg. Hitchcock allows Fitzgerald's thoughts to be heard by the audience, and he seems cynical, at best, and a career criminal, at worst. He reluctantly takes the assignment handed to him and dresses up like Santa to greet a long line of children anxious to give him their Christmas lists. He doesn't hold any pretenses with these kids and his "hardened" and plain-talking Santa Claus act actually has a positive effect with the kids. One boy, a tough but poor kid from Tenth Avenue, gives him a difficult time about a $50 toy airplane he wants for Christmas. Fitzgerald sees through him immediately and admonishes him for stealing some small items in the store. But he does promise him the airplane if he changes his ways. Fitzgerald obviously sees some of himself in the boy and decides to risk his job and parole to get him the toy. In the meantime, unbeknown to him, he has gained an ally in Ms. Gregg. She has an intuitive feeling that underneath his gruff exterior, old Barry is really a nice guy waiting for the right moment to prove it. She couldn't be more correct. "Santa Claus and the Tenth Avenue Kid" is certainly not the usual Hitchcock episode, although the host tries his best to play the "Grinch" by sealing up a chimney in the opening prologue so that Santa Claus can injure himself. In the end, he changes his mind in lieu of the holiday season. "Good will towards men" exists, even on "Alfred Hitchcock Presents."
A decent holiday themed episode that sorta feels out of place.
b_kite7 November 2018
Ex-con Stretch Sears (Barry Fitzgerald) finally gets another chance at parole, and is given the job of a department store Santa during the holidays. At first Sears hates the idea of the job, but, soon begins to take it seriously when a young juvenile delinquent boy questions his really being Santa. Sears plans to show the young boy by stealing a toy plane he wanted while at the store, but, how will it work out for Sears in the long run.
I've never really been a great fan of holiday themed episodes, but, this one isn't to bad considering it sticks out like a sore thumb in a series devoted to tales of crime, mystery, & thrillers. The main reason to catch this one is the great performance by Barry Fitzgerald, his scruffy old look and Irish accent make him a pleasure to watch. Other then that its pretty standard fair, with a happy ending, even though it doesn't get to sappy on us like most holiday shows do. Hitchcock himself even kinda scoffs at the idea of Christmas and holiday themed shows in general with his opening and closing monologues.
I've never really been a great fan of holiday themed episodes, but, this one isn't to bad considering it sticks out like a sore thumb in a series devoted to tales of crime, mystery, & thrillers. The main reason to catch this one is the great performance by Barry Fitzgerald, his scruffy old look and Irish accent make him a pleasure to watch. Other then that its pretty standard fair, with a happy ending, even though it doesn't get to sappy on us like most holiday shows do. Hitchcock himself even kinda scoffs at the idea of Christmas and holiday themed shows in general with his opening and closing monologues.
Christmas, Santa & the parolee
joclmct10 June 2020
A perfectly unexpected and heartwarming Hitchcock episode. Both Barry Fitzgerald and Virginia Gregg are excellent and it has become one of my all time favorite Christmas programs. I watch it every Christmas Eve and it's charm never diminishes. Sorry but no murders this time and that is okay with me, but this time only!
Rehabilitated
AvionPrince168 February 2023
Warning: Spoilers
So yeah we found a man who get free from jail and need to find a new job. He find one and need to dress like Santa Clauss for the job. So yeah its pretty boring all along and we just see that man do his work. But a child will make him robbed the store but the woman will helped him with that and cover the toy robbed. And they will be more friendly together after that and we can see that man get out without any problems. I didnt really find the purpose of the episode except to tell the story of a man who need to integrate the society after prison. But i didnt find the morality or really the meaning of it. It was pretty uninteresting in my opinion.
Barry Fitzgerald a true American Institution!!
elo-equipamentos2 January 2020
I used to do few reviews on the series, but this time I had to make it, due the Fitzgerald acting as a former convict who get a parole at Christmas time, actually he is a lost case as human being, some many times in jail became him in an irretrievable man, his thoughts were displayed by the audience, coarse and unfriendly, however Miss Webster an social assistance finds a job to him in a famous department store, as Santa Claus, what a performance, he accepts but planning an escape after a week, on the work he was a bit affable with those kids, but one day receives a haughty kid around nine years old or something, the kid wants a sample airplane expose at store, after a grudge talking the boy went away, but in final day he appears once more, the ending is so compelling over so remarkable acting for this true American Institution called Barry Fitzgerald, also Hitchcock made a joke sealing the fireplace with bricks to Santa Claus doesn't able to get in, highly recommended episode!!
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Santa Claus and the Tenth Avenue Kid
Prismark105 March 2023
Harold 'Stretch' Sears (Barry Fitzgerald) is a habitual criminal now on parole. The veteran burglar only got caught five times in a career of crime.
Out on parole, Miss Clementine Webster sets the curmudgeonly Sears as a Santa Claus at a department store in the run up to Christmas.
It is not a kind of job that Sears is looking forward to, but at least he is not the store cleaner.
On Christmas Eve Sears steals an expensive model plane for a boy who does not believe in Christmas or that he is Santa Claus.
It is not long before the police catch up on Sears.
This might have worked better if Sears learned the true meaning of Christmas. Instead he just mindlessly robs his temporary employer on his final day.
There was not much of an Alfred Hitchcock twist. The police were overzealous as they also wanted to book Sears for taking the Santa costume.
It was nice to know that in the good old days, it was ok for habitual criminals to get jobs as Santa Claus in a children's department.
Out on parole, Miss Clementine Webster sets the curmudgeonly Sears as a Santa Claus at a department store in the run up to Christmas.
It is not a kind of job that Sears is looking forward to, but at least he is not the store cleaner.
On Christmas Eve Sears steals an expensive model plane for a boy who does not believe in Christmas or that he is Santa Claus.
It is not long before the police catch up on Sears.
This might have worked better if Sears learned the true meaning of Christmas. Instead he just mindlessly robs his temporary employer on his final day.
There was not much of an Alfred Hitchcock twist. The police were overzealous as they also wanted to book Sears for taking the Santa costume.
It was nice to know that in the good old days, it was ok for habitual criminals to get jobs as Santa Claus in a children's department.
A Hitchcock X-mas
dougdoepke18 July 2017
Hitchcock and Santa Claus. That's like pairing a glass of lemonade with a lump of sugar. But leave it to curmudgeonly actor Fitzgerald to bridge the gap, which he does in slyly fine fashion. Seems he's a petty criminal on parole, something of a habit over a long lifetime. But he better straighten out this time or it's the slammer for his remaining years. So what job does the parole assistant (Gregg) find for him. Why it's a Santa Claus gig in a big department store. After all, what's more appropriate than lining up the old sourpuss with a string of adoring kids who can't wait to sit on his lap. Well, you can imagine the rest.
Okay, I'm drawn to X-mas shows like a fly to a swatter. But this one's a goodie, hitting the right non-sappy notes. Fitz is perfect for the role, looking like he's just come off a two week bender; plus, I like the way they've supplied deeper motivation for his swiping the jet plane. After all, why should a kid follow him down the same rocky slope. Good also to see fine utility actress Gregg on a break from Dragnet, and looking all fresh and sparkly. All in all, it's a X- mas episode worthy of the Hitch brand and this grumpy old viewer's down time.
Okay, I'm drawn to X-mas shows like a fly to a swatter. But this one's a goodie, hitting the right non-sappy notes. Fitz is perfect for the role, looking like he's just come off a two week bender; plus, I like the way they've supplied deeper motivation for his swiping the jet plane. After all, why should a kid follow him down the same rocky slope. Good also to see fine utility actress Gregg on a break from Dragnet, and looking all fresh and sparkly. All in all, it's a X- mas episode worthy of the Hitch brand and this grumpy old viewer's down time.
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