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Kurtlar vadisi - Irak (2006)

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223 out of 329 people found the following comment useful :-
Is it really anti-semitic manure?, 3 February 2006

Author: eat_more_chikin from United States

I liked this movie.. I know it was a big deal back in Turkey, since it had a soap opera and all but I didn't have any knowledge about that when I watched the movie. If you think this movie is anti-semitic or brings up the issue of raising anti-American spirit, I'd like to remind you the midnight express movie. Americans shall be as well very familiar with the effect of a wrong assumption/judge-mental movie... You see it here in the United States every day, on TV, on movies and etc. I don't understand what is the big deal when another country does the same to the US? We should have the same criterion's for any movie not depending on their nationality but their qualifications. So overall, I suggest this movie not only because it is a perception of another culture also because it is a fun adventure type movie..

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148 out of 224 people found the following comment useful :-
Turkish addendum to how our world has gone out of control., 19 February 2006

Author: azrailangelo from Austria

In times of "Syriana", "Constant Gardener" and "Lord of War" this movie is the Turkish addendum to how our world has gone out of control. It is more right than ever to say that those who have power want more power those who have money want more money in any circumstances without any morals. So I wonder why some people complain about these facts, when this movie shows them to the viewers, if those people are for democracy, freedom and equality between all humans. Almost every mature man and woman knows and understands why the US has gone in to Iraq. After it has been covered up, what had been obvious to most of the Turkish and middle-eastern people, it was only a question of time, when such a movie would come out.

While "Syriana" reflects the dirty business of oil and corruption, while "Constant Gardener" reflects the dirty business of pharmaceuticals and corruption and while "Lord of War" reflects the dirty business of gunrunners and corruption "Kurtlar Vadisi Irak" gives a little bit insight what is going on in a country, occupied by those who want more power and more money, whatever it may costs in human-lives and human-dignity.

About the events shown in this movie, we have been aware of through various media before, haven't we? So what changes our minds as mature and righteous human beings, when we see those events in a movie, played by actors? We should condemn them in the same way we did before no matter if it is a bombing of innocents by the occupiers or if it is a bombing of innocents by suicide-attacks.

Is this an anti-Us movie? No this is an anti-war, anti-corruption and an anti-imperialism movie. "Kurtlar Vadisi Irak" does not condemn a whole nation like once "Midnight Express" did in the most shabby way, it damns those who know no ethical standards and show no respect to other cultures, religions and nations.

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94 out of 147 people found the following comment useful :-
This movie can help us understand how many Turkish, Arabic or Muslim people feel and think, 20 February 2006

Author: cb-71 from Germany

Most German newspapers (e.g. www.spiegel.de) said the film is anti-American, anti-Jewish, anti-Christian, and is bad because it deepens the existing "culture clash" even more.

I don't agree. Well, of course the movie is one-sided. With a single exception the Americans in the movie are unscrupulous, dead-heartened and bloodthirsty. They humiliate people of other countries/cultures/religion, don't care about deaths of innocent civilians, maltreat prisoners, etc. Of course most Americans are not like this, but as we know from the pictures and videos from Abu Ghureib and from several other incidents, most of these things did really happen. Why should it be not allowed to show these things in a movie? One scene remind me strongly of holocaust movies: captives are transported on a long journey in a container on a truck. One guard says to the other: they might suffocate in the container because there is no fresh air supply. The truck stops, the (American) guard gets off the truck and fires with an automatic gun hundreds of bullet-holes into the container and creates a bloodbath among the captives. Well, if a holocaust movie shows German Nazis committing terrible things, I don't object too. OK, I don't really know if something like this container incident did really happen in Iraq, but we know that many bad enough things did actually happen.

There are interesting scenes e.g. where a sheik stops some fanatists from executing an American journalist and confronts them with facts why this has nothing to do with Islam, or another one where he discusses with suicide bombers why their plans are wrong.

This movie can help us understand how many Turkish, Arabic or Muslim people feel and think. It is provocative, one-sided, and mixes historic truth with fiction in a questionable way. However isn't that a good starting point for discussing these issues? Sometimes provocation is necessary to get people start talking. First we need to learn to talk about our own feelings. Then we can talk to each other. It's not very healthy if the political correctness keeps telling us to not talk about what we really think and feel just because it could violate other peoples feelings.

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139 out of 245 people found the following comment useful :-
Polat Alemdar goes to Iraq, not only with the usual weapons, but also with the usual mentality..., 1 February 2006

Author: imedebe from Turkey

After being the top TV series of Turkey for many years, Kurtlar Vadisi (Valley of the Wolves) now appears as a cinema film. Year 1996 was a break stone in Turkish cinema history, in which Eskiya (The Bandit) was seen by more than one million people, which could be counted a very high number for that time. People started to revise their opinions about the national cinema. After Eskiya, high-budget movies followed, being seen by millions of people, and giving out the signs that Turkey was in fact a really profitable country for film-making, if the needs of the people were analyzed well. The result of the analysis is simple: People would pay for the movies if they knew the cast from television. Good or bad, every movie having its basis on TV worked well on the screen. Kurtlar Vadisi Irak will do good on the screen, without any doubt, for the same reason. However, there is a difference now. The movie is based on the characters from the series, but the story is completely different. It zooms in the war in Iraq, with a different subjectivity than the American one. The makers of the movie could base the story on the mafia events that the viewers of the TV series were used to, but they took a risk and carried the war to the screen. Billy Zane appears in the movie, which will take the attention of international viewers. Time will show, if the movie is going to be a success out of Turkey, but we can say, it has simply guaranteed the top in Turkey.

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69 out of 118 people found the following comment useful :-
The other side of the medal, 23 February 2006

Author: rawkidd from Switzerland

As mentioned before here somewhere, there is a true hysteria on going in Europe about this movie, which i don't understand at all. Why is it, that people get up now and denunciate the content. What is wrong with them guys ? I mean Hollywood produced Bullsh.. for years, and told so called "true" stories one-sided and no one ever said a word about their manipulative policy. Russians have been showed bad and evil for years, then the Japanese, then the Arabian world and it always was OK. Who says, the good guys are always American ? Who says justice is being made by stars'n'stripes ? Once Oliver Stone dragged a whole country and its people in the mud and every consumer thought, ooohhh yeah, so this is what Turkey is about. And when the Turks complained about that movie, Hollywood's answer was: Hey, it's just a movie. Don't take serious. Exact the same thing word, is what I'm saying now: Hey, it's only Showbiz !!! But back to the movie.

Valley of Wolves sure has some lacks in professionalism but what has to be said: the movie is thrilling. Besides the American actors, which are chosen very well, the Turkish ones have some work to do to take place in the higher class. But of course, there are also very touching moments, like the Hospital visit from the main character. The special and action effects are not bad but are too limited in its volume to be really spectacle.

I think it is a solid action movie and for once told from the other side than the usual "hero saves the world" stuff.

cheers.

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19 out of 26 people found the following comment useful :-
Great action movie - very controversial in the west, 16 December 2006

Author: Andres Salama from Buenos Aires, Argentina

A commando of Turkish intelligence agents enter Irak to avenge a real life episode in the war where Turkish soldiers were arrested and blindfolded by American troops. A very good action film, condemned unseen by many in the west, it represents at least a change of pace by showing the Muslims as the good guys and the Americans as the bad guys. The movie is actually very strongly against terrorism (the Sheikh in the movie criticizes the terrorists who wants to behead an American journalist, and prevents this from happening) but is also against American ignorant meddling in the Middle East. Most of all, though, Valley of the Wolves is a terrific action movie. And Billy Zane - who has apologized to the American press for appearing in this film - has actually one of the best performances in his career as a real meanie.

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Just a B-action movie, but behind it is a very good message, 23 February 2007
Author: Michael A. Martinez (aylmer666@juno.com) from Fairbanks, Alaska, USA

It's actually surprisingly slick for a Turkish movie, considering it's also part of an ongoing TV series, kinda like their "24".

The Good:

The actors all did well, and I'm surprised to see so many real American actors, including Busey and Zane in such a blatantly anti-war movie. The music The cinematography The editing The special effects

The Bad:

The production design is cheap by movie standards. The US military uniforms are not very believable and many of the US soldiers speak with thick accents (especially the jailer at Abu Ghraib). The plot is not believable, with the four Turkish special forces guys taking out a LOT of American G.I.'s at the climax. The US soldiers are shown to be cartoonishly evil - one guy even kills one of his own men for threatening to tell on him for killing some Iraqi civilians! Gary Busey as a Jewish Doctor harvesting organs to send to the West - a bit far fetched.

As ludicrous as it gets, this movie is a real eye-opener to how the Islamic world sees us. The war is controversial and polarizing here, just like this movie and most Americans are gonna love it or hate it long before they actually watch it. I liked it. One almost never sees an American (non-documentary) movie with the guts to be so completely one-sided, especially when our questionable foreign policy is involved. US soldiers as the bad guys, led by a fanatical Christian zealot, is definitely not something one sees every day. This movie is kinda like THE OMEGA CODE 2 turned on its head. Between the bad and the good, VALLEY OF THE WOLVES: IRAQ at least never fails to be entertaining.

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17 out of 29 people found the following comment useful :-
One of the most shocking movies ever, 17 July 2006

Author: anastas-mk from Macedonia

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The plot seems irrational. But this movie, for the rest of the world, plays much bigger role than just a movie - it tells us some stories that we couldn't even imagine. Thumbs up for the brave motion picture about the whole hegemony we are witnesses of... and, the message is that they can't shoot or bribe us all. About the anti-semitism: when a movie favors the Islam, it doesn't mean it discriminates the Jews. I am an atheist, but I have some Muslim friends - they are not terrorists. The US are serving paranoia among the world's population... and this movie is the opposite - it serves us the reality... And the reality has not been broadcasted on CNN.

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22 out of 39 people found the following comment useful :-
It is only the tip of the Iceberg, 31 March 2006

Author: Elias La Fendi from London, UK

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It is a great movie. Although not totally based on true events (since true events in Iraq of daily killings, torture and human rights violations are by far more horrific) for once, someone had the courage to depict the contrary of what the gigantic but biased US media consistently and persistently portrays the conditions in Iraqi.

Anti-Arab and Anti-Muslim, movies based on stories of total fabrication, such as True Lies, The Siege, and Syriana and many more were just the norms how Hollywood vilifies an entire ethnic and religious groups. It has become so common to see such bigotry as long as it is speaking of "others". I came to know that all these racist movies were shown in the movie theaters of the un-democratic Countries of the Middle East. None were banned, despite their prejudice and incitement, and in spite of the fact that these movies only serve to propagate stereotypes and misinformation about Arabs and Muslims, enhance hatred, mystify the truths and induce clash of civilizations.

Now that Valley of the wolves has come to show only the tip of the iceberg on the greatest terrorist act: invading an entire country and destroying its infrastructure and economy, bringing torture, cluster bombs, depleted uranium, innumerable acts of random murder(+173,000), arbitrary arrests, brutal detentions, misery and degradation to the Iraqi people and yet we read here that the American tax-payers (who are funding this terrorist invasion) are debating whether or not to show such movie, a piece of the reality of their Americans' own making!

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14 out of 24 people found the following comment useful :-
My salute to the producer, 21 May 2006

Author: j199 from Singapore

The making itself is not that great as most viewers have said. However, the action is entertaining enough. But I think what is more important is the subject of the movie. I'm glad that someone is finally has the gut to make a movie on the real injustice that committed by the America. It's amazing how many narrow minded people actually refuse to accept the truth about US army in Iraq. The massacre of civilian by US solder has already been reported by Time magazine and now the US defend department finally bowed to public pressure to investigate. Here's a report by US newspaper so no more arguments about the fact behind this movie. www.registerguard.com /news /2006 /05 /20 /a3.nat.iraqprobe.0520.p1.php?section=nation_world. (you need to remove the spaces in between to form a valid url)

I just hope we have a real hero like in the movie as well.

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