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4/10
Educational film like telling of the Mormons' trek to Utah
dbborroughs19 April 2006
This is the story of the founding of the Mormon Church and their trek across America to found Utah.

I'm not sure how this will play if you're not a Mormon. To me it seemed like a cross between the old Sunn Classic pseudo documentaries (ie Beyond and Back, In Search of Noah's Ark) and one of the awkward educational films you'd see in school. Yes its informative, but ts not very interesting. It definitely not something that I would ever put on again for enjoyment. Its just sort of is.

Actually the most interesting thing is the casting of Richard Moll as Joseph Smith the founder of the church. The role is so very different than what we know him for, Bull on Night Court and monsters in low budget horror movies, that this is a nice change of pace.

Worth a shot if you're curious but I wouldn't go out of my way to see it.
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4/10
Come Come Ye Saints
bkoganbing28 October 2010
Savage Journey is the story of the Mormon Church if not from the beginning when Joseph Smith was visited by the Angel Moroni on his farm in Palmyra, New York, it does tell the story from its early days of wandering and persecution until the church settled in what is now the state of Utah. I presume it was made with the full cooperation of the LDS church and made with an audience of non-believers in mind. A kind of Mormon primer.

It certainly is more accurate than the Hollywood classic Brigham Young, Frontiersman that starred Tyrone Power and Linda Darnell back in the day with Dean Jagger as Brigham Young and Vincent Price as Joseph Smith. Though more historically accurate than that one, Savage Journey surely does lack the production values that 20th Century Fox could give it.

The only name familiar to most of us is Richard Moll who was Bull Shannon on Night Court and who played Joseph Smith in the film. It's kind of hard to accept Moll in the part, possibly not his fault, but I kept seeing the intellectually challenged Bull as I watched him. Someone like Vincent Price who was also tall as Joseph Smith was, but who also played cerebral characters when he wasn't scaring us to death on the screen was perfect.

I did enjoy Moll telling the Illinois jailers before he was lynched by a mob that as a prophet he foresaw blood and destruction on the USA within the lifetime of these people. Now I don't think it would have taken any metaphysical insights into predicting the Civil War. Many saw it coming and none of them claimed God as their source of information.

The seminal event of the LDS Church, the one that convinced them that the Deity was giving them a special providence was the sea gulls appearing to eat the locusts that were devouring that first crop of their's in the winter of 1846-47. That part was handled well given the limited budget this film must have had.

Still Savage Journey does not claim to be more than an educational and evangelical tool and it really doesn't rise much above the level of the Christian films from Protestant evangelical churches.
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4/10
Night Train to Terror crossover!
BandSAboutMovies28 February 2021
Warning: Spoilers
This movie made this entire month worth it.

That's because it unlocks another part of the saga that is my fascination with the utterly strange and mysterious Night Train to Terror, a movie that I have written about more than once.

While this movie is listed on IMDB as a 1983 made for TV movie, the truth is that this movie was originally released six years earlier as Brigham. I love this comment on the movie from Mormon Literature and Creative Arts, which stated that the film came about as David Yeaman wanted to "create a film billed as authentic and sympathetic to the LDS view. Top Hollywood brass was involved, primarily Oscar-winning screenwriter Philip Yordan, and the LDS public grew excited to finally see themselves depicted accurately on screen."

Oh man. Let's take a break from this quote just to remind everyone who Phillip Yordan was. In The Phillip Yordan Story, a Hollywood urban legend is just part of his legend. It was claimed that Yordan hired someone else to go through law school for him so that he could get a degree without doing the work.

While Yordan is the listed writer on nearly a hundred movies, including Dillinger, Detective Story and Broken Lance*, the jury is out on what films he actually wrote. Some believe that many of the movies he wrote were actually a front for blacklisted writers, who still wanted to make films, giving Yordan all the credit and half the paycheck.

In the late 1950s, Yordan finally got caught. He mixed up two scripts, delivering a Fox script to Warner Brothers and vice versa. Seeing as how he was under contract at Fox, Darryl F. Zanuck threatened to get him blackballed at all the major studios. A few years later, his secretary would claim that she was the real writer of The Rise and Fall of Legs Diamond and things got so bad that Columbia demanded that he have an office on their lot where they could watch him write, guaranteeing that he was the author. Despite this new contract, he was still hustling scripts at other studios and was fired and forced to return his paycheck. This time, he really was told you'll never eat lunch in this town again.

Yordan then showed up in Spain, working for Samuel L. Bronston, using folks like Ray Bradbury, Ben Barzman Arnaud D'Usseau, Julian Halevy and Bernard Gordon, who really wrote The Day of the Triffids, not Yordan.

By the mid 60s, he was back in Hollywood, a survivor of everything from being blackballed to going bakrupt, working as a script doctor on movies like Horror Express - also a horror movie set on a train - and Psychomania.

At the end of his life, he worked as an adjunct screenwriting instructor at San Diego State University and was writing scripts for movies like The Unholy, Marilyn Alive and Behind Bars (which is also part of Night Train to Terror), Cataclysm (ditto), Cry Wilderness and this movie.

Back to our friends at Mormon Literature and Creative Arts, who wrote that "Unfortunatley, when released, Brigham proved a critical fiasco. It was criticized for poor acting, incomprehensible chronology, sensationalized violence, incredibly poor casting, lack of dramatic focus, and even for recycling wagon train footage from earlier films like Brigham Young itself. The film was quickly withdrawn, reedited, and re-released early the following, billed as The New Brigham. Similar attempts at repackaging continued as it was apparently again revamped and christened Savage Journey a few years later (perhaps to parallel the 1983 handcart film Perilous Journey). Despite this, Brigham remained a critical flop, and modern Mormons, if they remember it all, do so with humor or derision."

Yes, this was a movie that Yordan made specifically for the Mormon Chuch and along the way, he brought director Tom McGowan, who - yes, you got it - also directed Cataclysm, and Richard Moll, who would star in that film and Marilyn Behind Bars. Seeing as how both movies are segments in Night Train, it gets really disconcerting watching Moll have hair, not have hair and be played by a double with astoundingly hairy arms.

Other actors who appear in both films include Maurice Grandmaison, who plays Brigham Young himself and Papini, the homeless Catholic priest who attempts to help the heroine Claire Hansen; Stephen Cracroft, Phineas in this one and a first AD on Night Train; Lou Edwards, Brother Becker in Mormon times and a production manager on Night Train; Faith Clift, who was Claire Rudley in this movie and appears as Claire Hansen in Night Train (she was also Yordan's wife, showing up in his movies Captain Apache, Horror Express and Cry Wilderness); an uncredited Marc Lawrence (yes, the very same man who made Pigs and appears in Night Train as Abraham Weiss) and most importantly, Yordan's son Byron, who is the song and dance man doomed to die on Satan's Cannonball, but not before he sings "dance with me, dance with me" more times than you can count.

I'm astounded that this film exists. Actually, I'm so into the fact that Yordan did, a flimflam man who claimed to have never read a newspaper before the age of fifty, yet somehow was a lawyer who became an Oscar-winning writer, a producer and the connection between so many movies that are just plain strange.

So how's the movie?

Moll, who used the named Charles Moll for this film, sums up Savage Journey best in the movie The Work and the Story, saying "All independent films suck, all Mormon films suck, and, ergo, an independent Mormon film must royally suck."

*A movie he won an Best Original Story Oscar for, despite it being a remake of 1949's House of Strangers and the fact that he probably didn't write a single word of the actual script.
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1/10
A strange science fiction that never delivers
bletcherstonerson6 October 2015
After an apocalypse, the world is in some weird post apocalyptic pioneer era, imagine "Little House on the Prairie" meets " A Serbian Movie". This guy gets tarred and feathered and then ends up being cleaned up by the preachers wife. He then has sex with the older woman and then does the walk of shame, only he can't run far enough to escape his secret cuckholding activities, He goes on the run with Bull from night court, who aids him in his quest to build a utopian society of where men own as many women as they like and breed litters of child laborers. The rest of the people outside of their group are an angry stupid and violent group of survivors that cannibalize their victims. They kill Bull by burning down his quarters forcing him through a window , then they lynch him. The rest of the group wander further west being chased by scavengers and other survivors of the Defcon 5 event. They make friends with a Native American that is so realistic in his appearance and demeanor that you can actually tell your friends that you know a real Native American and can actually call yourself an expert on Indian culture after seeing this film. The utopia is built and Brigham Young becomes their king, until one day, he runs into the Wu-Tang Clan. After a series of fights up to the top of the tower, a battle to the death takes place with the Mormon Masters of Kung Fu. In a violent free for all the marbles, young bites his opponents to death. Triumphant is Young in the 20 minute brutal breakdown a scene that is a must see for for the true Post apocalyptic Mormons. Young rules his land with violent blood reign of kung-fu and swordsmanship that he believes to be prophesized on Golden plates from God, which also supplement as flying guillotines. What this film does so effectively is to give the secular viewer a romanticized story about the the start up of the post apocalyptic society that we know as Utah, which oddly is almost exactly the same as it has ever been.
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1/10
It's About The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (the Mormons)
Rainey-Dawn29 October 2015
A film I ended up with from Mill Creek's Drive-in 50-pack. This film is not my cup of tea. It's basically like some critics and reviewers say it is a "Mormon Propaganda" flick.

The film basically portrays *almost everyone* as "savages" except the founder of the church Brigham Young. There are very few "good people" in the film and mainly, you know it, Brigham Young. Brigham Young is the only "good and holy" person around.

I'm sorry I don't by into the whole Brigham Young was the only non-savage person and basically the only "good" person around during those years. I'm not falling for this gimmick.

They wanted to portray Brigham Young as a martyr and basically the only person that is "Christ-like" but it comes off as propaganda that I'm not going to swallow.

1/10
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5/10
I don't know if you are a prophet of God, but I've seen the Devil's work tonight.
lastliberal15 January 2010
I only about the Mormon Church through the haters that run it today. I have no knowledge of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. I am told that this portrayal is accurate about the early years of the church and of the men.

I only remember Richard Moll as Bull from Night Court. Here, he plays Joseph Smith to a Brigham Young played by Maurice Grandmaison, who also played Brigham Young in the 1977 movie of the same name.

Watching the massacre of women and children at the hands of the rednecks was tough.

The acting was terrible and the production values were decidedly amateurish, but the story was compelling about the struggles of a people who have lost their way.
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1/10
Mormon Malarkey
StrictlyConfidential3 March 2022
Warning: Spoilers
"Savage Journey" was originally released back in 1968.

Anyway - As the story goes - In this pretentious tale of the Mormon Church, hypocritical Christian settlers are heading west to the land of paradise (or so they think). Along the way, the wagon train of pioneers faces many perils and hardships. Eventually, the settlers arrive in Utah to begin a new life.

If you are an atheist you are sure to detest this movie in a big way. I could barely tolerate this film's phony baloney message of the Mormon religion.
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5/10
Sausage Journey
Bezenby12 October 2016
Here's a quick question: Did I watch this because I have an active interest in the Church of the Latter Day Saints or because I'm a moron who just has to watch every film in Mill Creek's Drive In Classics box set? Answer: Only two to go! (now that I've also watched Invasion of the Bee Girls).

So as you should know unless you stumbled upon this page by accident is that this film is the story of the early days of the Mormon Church, what with the Joseph Smith and the….Brigham Young guy? And wee Jimmy Osmond.

Thing is, I didn't hate this one! I didn't think it was great either, but nonetheless it wasn't boring. I'm no god-fearing person (I worship Massimo Vanni) so the 'God will provide' speeches did rankle up my heathen gland, but then again it was interesting to watch how xenophobic and intolerant Americans were even back then. I knew of Joseph Smith but didn't realised he was murdered. Nor did I know that Jimmy Osmond parted the Red Sea and (must think of something funnier and more asinine before posting).

You're not going to be seeking this one out but if you have that box set please know that this isn't the worst film on there (that's Black Hooker, or maybe Who's Killing Her Now).

Or now that I've started watching it, Throw Out the Anchor.
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3/10
True, yet poorly executed, story about the formation of the Mormons
Red-Barracuda21 September 2016
Savage Journey tells the story about the original founders of the Church of the Latter-Day Saints as they trek across the United States looking for a home in the 19th century. Persecuted wherever they go, the Mormons end up in the unsettled land that will one day become known as Utah. The drama centres on the two founding members Joseph Smith and Brigham Young.

This film is certainly pretty ambitious in scope but it ultimately fails primarily on account of its poor production values which are not good enough to execute such an expansive story. It has to be said that this is a highly biased presentation of the Mormons, which whitewashes such contentious issues such as the groups endorsement of polygamy. The Mormons in this story are shown to be very worthy and good to a level that seems unlikely. The film itself gets plus points for its educational value, yet despite this it's still not exactly very good and simply does not engage the viewer as much as it should.
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8/10
much better than expected
spj-419 November 2007
I thought this movie was a pleasant surprise! It doesn't deserve its lowly rating I noted!!! - I assume that's connected to a prevailing dislike for religiousness, too often associated with bigotry & hypocrisy, with good reason!

I have no affiliation to such a church as the Mormons I understand this is centred on! I have also left my own mainstream religion that I intend never to return to!

But what I saw here was an impressive depiction of how hard it can be for a minority that might appear to be a sect to some, to find acceptance in any circumstances! It doesn't matter if someone is a visionary, an inventor, a prophet, or an innocent bystander! Likewise surely for God, whatever you conceive him to be!

Suddenly, you can find yourself in the middle of a storm, having your family threatened or even destroyed, having your property or existence or even letters confiscated, for your trust in God &/or man! While others gossip about you! Or bring on a sea of fireballs in the hands of rednecks, when you are in no position to defend yourselves! It can happen at the hands of a multi-national corporation, something like the slick tobacco or fast-food networks!

I have seen such red-necks & oppressors as portrayed here, as Christians or their adversaries! Equally distasteful! I have seen similar red-necks & oppressors amidst the unbelieving in any form of 'God' they might believe or not believe in! I have witnessed their individual & collective responses without tolerance & with amazing audacity & narrowmindedness!

I didn't know this was about Joseph Smith, only read it on your website later! I'd only vaguely heard of him, & don't even know the difference between the Mormons & the Seventh-day Adventists! But I respect the value of each & countless others from faithful to all manner of visions of God, or their perceptions of such a God, that I have met in churches or temples, to hotels & much beyond! I'm not sorry I watched this movie rated 3.2/10 & would recommend you view it for yourself!

You find both sides of it here! It has drama & action! It is poverty, even desperation! I don't understand why it is judged so poorly, but for the association of many churches to be centred or judged to be based on bigotry & hypocrisy! There's the old-fashioned version of a tels-evangelist (without requests for donations) & a mob of nasty rednecks (who don't like to be challenged in their perceptions) ... so much like the pharisees, while the outcasts & downtrodden were depicted in Jesus' times, variously worthy of condemnation & respect are still to be found!

It's not hard to see how anyone of faith in any belief, on anything from politics to religion, to how the world, could or should be, finding themselves to be a victim here! This deserves a favourable rating! 8/10!
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6/10
Reasonably accurate, dealing with early days of Mormonism
tmchesser29 January 2006
I originally saw this while I was living in Norway. As such, it had Norwegian subtitles across the bottom of the screen. I was, at the time, serving as a missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (the Mormons).

The two main players in the early days of the church were Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. Joseph Smith was the founder of the church, and Brigham Young later took the reins after his death, leading the members of the church to modern-day Utah. This movie deals with these early days of the church.

Brigham Young was well portrayed. Everything I've read about the man says this portrayal was spot-on. At first, I thought Joseph Smith had been miscast. I mean, come on: Richard Moll (who plays Joseph Smith) is better known as "Bull" Shannon on "Night Court." In retrospect, it's not that far off. The real Joseph Smith was well over six feet tall, and was generally known for being a very gentle person.

The early persecution of the church, and the subject of polygamy are dealt with head-on, and accurately.

All-told, a decent movie, carried by the strength of the stories and the portrayals. The budget is pretty low, so don't expect too much flash.
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7/10
Odd But Interesting
FightingWesterner4 September 2009
Savage Journey is an interesting and ambitious, though somewhat amateurish and turgidly acted history of the Mormon faith from the meeting of Brigham Young and Joseph Smith, through the days of violent oppression in Missouri and Illinois, to the trek west and the founding of Salt Lake City.

Made (I assume) with the cooperation of the LDS church, the film's decidedly pro-Mormon and thus not very objective, but it doesn't get too preachy, making it accessible to "gentile" viewers such as myself. It is sometimes pretty corny. (like the film's final scene)

Richard Moll is pretty hard to take serious as LDS founder Joseph Smith. With his imposing look and shaggy black hair (I'm used to seeing him on "Night Court".) he looks more like a scary "fire and brimstone" preacher than a wise and gentle prophet.

I'm surprised that something this frequently amateurish film is written and produced by Hollywood veteran Phillip Yordan and that the director of this fundamentalist Christian production is also responsible for the nudie movie Wilbur And The Baby Factory!
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7/10
"All I've got is the days of my life. How do I make them mean something"?
classicsoncall12 March 2011
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It looks like only viewers who rated this film better than a '3' are the ones thoughtful enough to leave a review on this board. The picture doesn't deserve such a low rating and is due in part (just assuming here) to a general discomfort over religious themes in general, and the subject of polygamy in particular. The latter subject is not dwelled on in the story, and is even given a slightly humorous turn in the sequence when Brigham Young (Mauric Grandmaison) is shown dancing with his different wives. Beyond that, polygamy is dealt with rather straightforwardly without opinion, and one can make up their own mind.

The story traces the development of the Mormon Church over a period of roughly two decades, from 1830 to the Great Westward Trek in the spring of 1847. It's principal characters are Joseph Smith (Richard Moll) and Brigham Young, who met in Ohio and developed a friendship and loyalty that endured until Smith's murder in 1846. During that time, the followers who were attracted to the preaching of both men slowly grew, and became a wandering vanguard moving from state to state as they came under attack for their different lifestyle from the mainstream.

The picture ventures into the political realm to a degree, as the governor of Illinois seems to intercede on behalf of the Mormons when they come under fire while in Nauvoo. However they are betrayed by his quick departure, deferring to his own political ambitions rather than seeking an equitable justice for Young. Once in Utah, Brigham Young inspires his followers to claim and work their own land while proclaiming water and timber rights for the benefit of all, a rather generous view that modern socialists might envy if they weren't eclipsed by their liberal elite pontificates.

Probably the most intriguing scene in the picture occurred right after the settlers made their way to the Great Salt Lake Basin and were almost destroyed by a force of nature, a plague of locusts that threatened their crops and livelihood. With no place to turn, Young prays yearningly to God to give him a sign that will give him and his community hope. The appearance of the gulls as saviors seemed akin to a heavenly band of angels swooping down to vanquish an enemy. From these humble beginnings, the Mormon Church and Brigham Young University were born and persevere to the present day.
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Not Very Savage...
azathothpwiggins21 June 2022
Don't let the title fool you, this isn't some action-packed thriller. In fact, SAVAGE JOURNEY is a rather dull account of the origin of Mormonism. Richard Moll plays Joseph Smith, who is tarred, feathered, arrested, and eventually lynched. There's pretty much one disaster after another for the early Mormons.

Brigham Young takes over for Smith, encountering plenty of tragedies himself, including a swarm of locusts and gaggles of backward yahoos with murder on their tiny minds.

If this movie had been as interesting or exciting as the actual history, it might have been more than a G-rated sleeping aid...
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