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7/10
Blind Dating is not what it looks like, it's more
ievolver7 September 2007
I just saw Blind Dating, and I really liked it. It was fairly well acted and, more importantly, it had heart.

What I'm confused about is the cover to the film, it looks like a teenage movie with hot girls and bad jokes, but it's everything but. Chris Pine's portrait of a blind guy seems very real to me, and I really felt for him throughout the whole movie. The story is somewhat obvious, and not that inventive, but it has a point, and even though it's sometimes a little cliché it's still very decent and enjoyable. (After all IT IS a comedy/drama, there just has to bee some parts we all know.)

Everybody are just human, after all. It doesn't matter if you are visually impaired, what skin color you have or what your heritage is. Watch this flick if you want to feel a little better.
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5/10
It's fun...could have been better
FreeLancer062 April 2007
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I just saw this movie at the AFI Dallas Film Festival. You can tell from the movie poster that the movie is intended to be taken light heartedly and be fun. Which I thought it was.

The main character, Danny, is blind and a virgin. He is not looking only for sex but for a relationship and something that has meaning. His brother does not understand this and sets Danny up on a slew of bad dates; ranging from the overly emotional to the very promiscuous. Danny finally meets someone on his own, Leeza, who works at his eye doctor's office. Leeza is Indian and engaged but still goes out with Danny. She falls for him but chooses her fiancée over him for cultural reasons. Danny and Leeza are separated and go through some ups and downs but ultimately they end up together.

I enjoyed this movie. It was funny and I thought Chris Pine (Danny) did a very good job. But I think this movie could have been more than it was. The two main characters obviously have stresses in their lives which I feel could have been explored more. But instead the movie focuses on the pranks that get pulled on Danny and the various nut-jobs his brother sets him up with. Personally I would have liked to see Danny and Leeza's relationship become deep and really feel their connection over the sometimes crude humor. I would have liked to see more of Leeza struggling with the cultural differences rather than a few teary eyes when she is at dinner with her family. Being of Indian descent I felt some of her insecurity, but I think had she been more developed more everyone could have really felt it. Chris Pine is lovable, kind, and clever as he gets back at his brother and takes his life into his own hands.

Overall, its a fun watch. Don't go in expecting anything profound, but expect a few crude jokes and take the movie for what it is. A comedy about a cute blind guy going on dates.
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6/10
Extremely uneven
dmasursky5 May 2010
I really wanted to like this movie. Chris Pine is adorable and gives an appealing performance as a blind man looking for love. It's such a compelling story - how can you not root for this guy? But the movie doesn't know how to pick a tone! First, it's a raunchy, sexed-up comedy, with Danny's therapist stripping down to her underwear for no discernible reason and one of his blind dates pushing his face into her breasts and another doing a completely unsexy strip tease, which, of course, he can't see. Meanwhile, he's fallen in love with the lovely receptionist at his doctor's office, where he is contemplating an experimental surgery to partially restore his sight. It's like there were two movies that got crammed into one. The first is aimed at teenage boys and the other is aimed at people like me, who actually like movies about real people and real emotions. If you can ignore the sophomoric stuff, it's not a bad romance. And I guess if you just came for the breasts, there's enough of those for you. But it could have been a far better movie if they had just decided which one they wanted to make.
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No Big Boy Pants!
daysky15 March 2013
Well, this was good enough that I watched it the whole way through... but also bad enough that at the end I was kind of letdown. I wanted it to be so much better than it was.

The romance was so simplistic that it did not seem authentic and they didn't seem to have much chemistry.

The family was so hodgepodge looking that it was distracting- yeah right they are brothers, yeah right that's his dad...

I think this got bit in the butt by a low budget and honestly it was kind of sophomoric... it's a romance without "big boy pants." So I neither recommend it nor swear you off it completely.. just keep your expectations low and they will be met.
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6/10
Better then expected
safinahmed20 February 2008
I would say that this movie came as a surprise, I was waiting on that comedy/romance/drama movies that you laugh hard in the beginning that it just starts get dramatic and you lose complete interest in the movie.

This movie has a steady flow of funniness, although it won't make you laugh your pants off, it can still make you laugh a few times. Also there are some dramatic parts that are nice and you can have an overall nice time watching this movie.

I liked some parts of the acting, but the main character must have forgotten sometimes that he was supposed to be blind, because he acts like a regular guy, doing regular stuff. Also the I think the part near the ending is a bit over-dramatic and over-acted.

The script takes the cliché story and add a bit of originality to it, and the result is a nice solid 6
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7/10
beautiful
deewalrond-19 June 2007
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I think this was a beautiful and heart warming romantic comedy. If you like feel good movies this is one to watch,and i really have to say that Chris Pine has the most beautiful eyes.I saw this on my birthday and it was definitely worth it.Danny is an intelligent, confident, GORGEOUS young man who also happens to be blind. Not that he's letting that hold him back--for the most part, Danny refuses to let his visual impairment get in the way of anything. Which is why Danny's girl-crazy, limo-driving brother Larry is horrified to discover that Danny is shy and nervous when it comes to the opposite sex, his brother tries to set him up on a variety of disastrous blind dates.
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6/10
A nice movie
leeeonly19 June 2018
Some people rated it very lower,"A bad movie?". every one should not see from particular User's eye glasses for any movie every one has right to see it and to see that a Reviewer wrote about it is correct or not. in my view it is a nice movie, i enjoyed it
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7/10
Good
manitobaman8130 August 2014
A blind young man (Pine) thinks he finds love with an Indian woman (Jay), though their relationship is fraught with cultural differences. And if you believe in that storyline, I've got a bridge in San Francisco to sell you! I refuse to totally dismiss this, because I find it quite engaging, in a guilty pleasure sense. I am not saying the film is a classic, but I love it. My only problem with the film was the supporting cast.The director likes to show certain things: scenes that might not be a part of the story, but add much to the story in general, the way a writer might prelude a chapter by describing something connected to, but not in line with the characters. My rating ends up being 7 out of 10.
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5/10
Interesting conceptually, blindly executed
super164 October 2008
There are several good, interesting ideas that could have been explored in this movie - one is a blind young man, interested in a serious relationship and wanting to have sex with meaning -- who doesn't view himself as attractive -- and how he goes about pursuing that relationship and what happens along the way. This movie could play as a drama with comedy or a comedy with drama. Another way it could have gone is the experience of a blind young man who undergoes experimental surgery and the outcome and difficulties encountered along the way. More than likely this would be mostly a drama. Finally, there's the relationship between a blind man and a sighted woman, a romance based movie, either drama or comedy, or the relationship between a Caucasian American male and an female of Indian descent from a very traditional Indian family, and the difficulties they would encounter along the way, again a drama with some comedy more than likely.

Unfortunately, this movie overreached it grasp. There were some very good moments: the basketball game with the friend, the parents at the hospital while they await the outcome of the surgery, etc. But the whole isn't even a sum of these parts -- it's a combination of movies that do not cohere in a way that one can call a success.

Its unfortunate: the idea of a romance comedy that isn't simplistic, Boy meets Girl, Boy and Girl find love, encounter hindrance, break-up, but Love Wins Out, is a trite, tired formula. This movie had the promise to be a bit more than that, as DEFINITELY, MAYBE attempted and succeeded earlier this year. A longer running time would have helped and a better screenplay.

The performances was reasonably solid for the budget. Technically, the film is fine, location wise and situation some interesting choices. The biggest weakness is the plot, story and script.

Chris Pine deserves some better roles, to see what he can actually make with something more complex and intelligent. Some excellent character actors are wasted, although their performances are fine. There are some unfortunate and unnecessary stereotypes with both the Indian characters and the females set-ups that the Larry character attempts to hook up with Chris Pine's role as Danny.
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6/10
Blind Dating
user-666-62210824 April 2013
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Rating: B

Blind Dating is a unique romantic comedy starring Chris Pine and Anjali Jay. This movie met my expectations as being the perfect chick flick with romance, comedy, and drama tied into an interesting storyline. With the vast array of romantic comedies, this film stands apart from the rest by offering a different take on how to find love. Not only is the main character named Danny blind, he also goes on several blind dates with many different types of women in order to find a woman that will accept him and his disability. In comparison to most romantic movies, the comedic aspect of the movie does fall flat during some scenes. However the alluring and hilarious prospect of watching a handsome, blind guy navigate his way on the "streets" and also into the dating scene kept me captivated throughout the whole movie. In the movie, Danny, played by Chris Pine, has adjusted to being blind with the help of his older brother, Larry, played by Eddie Thomas. At twenty two years old, Danny realizes that he is missing out on having relationships and enlists the help of his brother to set him up on blind dates. When Danny begins the dating process, he is optimistic about the prospect of finding someone who will accept him. However, he soon realizes that the girls that he goes on dates ignore his personality and focus on the fact that he is blind. Become conscious of the fact, Danny begins to try to memorize the restaurant setting in order to pretend that he is not blind in front of his dates. Before this scene in the movie, it seemed as though being blind was something he had come to accept, however at this point in the film it seemed as though he saw it as a weakness. He eventually falls in love with Leeza, an Indian woman who comes from a traditional family. Leeza works as a receptionist at the optometrist that Danny goes to. It is important to note that during the her lunch breaks Danny takes Leeza out, however they stay out much longer than the typical time allotted for a break at a job. Danny and Leeza's relationship develops throughout the movie, and eventually Danny considers having eye surgery so that he might be able to have a normal relationship with Leeza. A small twist in the movie comes in when Leeza becomes engaged to marry an Indian man that her family believes will "support" her. Leeza has to make the choice between someone her parents will accept and someone she loves. At the end of the movie, Danny and Leeza end up together, and the eye surgery is not as successful as it should have been. In addition, both of their families come together and learn about each other's respective cultures. Although the blind dates that Danny goes on provide comedic relief, the message of finding love that is deeper than just mere attraction is highly evident at the end of this film. It was not necessary for Danny to try to change who was, Leeza still chose him because of his personality and sense of humor and outlook on life. The film does have its quirky moments. For example, in order to cope with his disability, Danny sees a therapist named Dr. Evans played by Jane Seymour. For whatever reason, at each therapy session his therapist finds the need to strip in front of him, taking advantage of the fact that he is blind. However, towards the end of the movie Dr. Evans actions help explain the theme of the movie. Because both Danny and Dr. Evans eventually find love, the superficial message this movie leaves to the audience is that finding love is sometime difficult to do; Dr. Evans was old and Danny was blind, they both had major attributions that worked against them in their search to find love. However, perhaps the ending message is that if they can find love, anyone can. Overall, this movie had all the elements that made for a good romantic comedy. It made me laugh and hope for a good outcome for the main two characters.
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5/10
Love is blind
adi_200227 May 2016
The movie focuses on a blind man called Danny who tries to find a soul mate via his brother Larry. The few dates that he have proves to be unsuccessful because he has the bad luck to met only easy women but he is in search for the real love. Will he find her having in mind his flaw? Will a girl be able to accept him as he is?

I fancy this film only because on Chris Pine. He shows his acting skills by playing a blind guy and that's not an easy job. Here he demonstrates to all that he is a talented actor. Although I'm mad of the director for the scene where he tries a bunch on condoms and says they not fit. Are we really supposed to expect that he doesn't know that a condom must be put on a fully erect penis? Even a 16 years old knows that. He maybe be blind but not that silly. Why ruin the character for such a thing? In rest it was all OK.
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8/10
'Disabilities' and Possibilities
gradyharp1 April 2008
The title and cover of this DVD suggest a film that is more fluff than substance. But don't be fooled by these clues. BLIND DATING is a well-written (Christopher Theo), well-directed (James Keach - brother of Stacy Keach and husband of Jane Seymour) story about the coping of the visually impaired, the quirks of Italian and Indian families, brotherhood, and the gamut of finding the right partner in a world of essential blind dating! One of the reasons the movie works so well is the ability of actor Chris Pine to make us believe he is blind and convey the positive manner in which people with impairments 'view' those around them.

Danny (Chris Pine) was born prematurely and as a result is blind, and as he grows toward age 21 he feels he is unattractive to women. His family is warm, loving and Italian and supportive - especially his brother Larry (Eddie Kaye Thomas) who runs a Limo service and is constantly trying to find Danny his first physical encounter, be that with hookers, girls from the office or neighborhood, or just referrals - each of whom is a disaster when it comes to dealing with a date who is blind! Danny discovers an operation that implants a camera-like contraption in his brain that will allow him the possibility to see again, even if the images are simply black and white and indistinct. In the office of ophthalmologist Dr. Perkins (Stephen Tobolowsky) is a young girl Leeza (Anjali Ray) who is Indian and whose parents have arranged a wedding with a man she does not love. And yes, in time Danny and Leeza are attracted to each other in what appears to be a doomed relationship - for family reasons. Danny has his operation and is able to see some images, but the implant fails and Danny once again is without sight - but far from being without hope, as both his and Leeza's families undergo changes of heart.

There is a sense of love that emanates from the screen, due in part to the script, the direction, and to the acting. Chris Pine is exceptionally fine in a challenging role, finding the balance between courage, comedy, and tenderness that make his character believable and lovable, and never once making a move that breaks his image as a sightless person. The entire cast is fine, including a hilarious Jane Seymour as Dr. Evans, Chris' therapist with a penchant for disrobing in front of her sightless patient! But the aspect of the film that sets it apart from many is the presentation of everyday type prejudices that can be every bit as hampering as a physical impairments! This is a warmhearted, very human comedy with many messages. Grady Harp
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1/10
Always have to try and fix a person.
gdtestqueen4 October 2018
I'll admit...I didn't watch all of it. Only a bit at the beginning and end. And I could barely stomach those parts. I have the same problem I have with almost any other movie about a disabled person. We always have to be "fixed". For the majority of us, no experimental surgery will help. Life isn't going to get all rosey after the doctors try and "fix" us. And we don't miraculously become "normal" people. Please...make a movie that has a blind person always blind. A deaf person always deaf. And someone in a wheelchair who doesn't get up and walk down the isle at the end. Living life disabled in an able world isn't easy but no one's life is. These movies just perpetuate the idea we need to be "fixed", and aid the belief that we can only be accepted when we are normal.
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4/10
movie with split personality
SnoopyStyle5 June 2016
Danny Valdessecchi (Chris Pine) is blind and everybody likes him. Girls think he's hot and his psychiatrist Dr. Evans (Jane Seymour) can't stop stripping in front of him. His inappropriate limo-driving brother Larry (Eddie Kaye Thomas) keeps trying to set him up to lose his virginity. He volunteers for experimental brain surgery to regain his eyesight. Leeza (Anjali Jay) is the new receptionist at the medical office. She has been promised to a traditional East Indian arranged marriage.

Chris Pine is an appealing photogenic guy. Brother Larry and the various girls seem to be trying for a wacky comedy. It's not done that well but it looks worst next to the humorless Leeza. There is next-to-no chemistry between her and Danny. She might as well be in another movie from a stripping Jane Seymour. This movie has split personality and they don't get along. Instead of trying to give Leeza her own dramatic story, the movie should try harder to incorporate her into his drama and give her some fun.
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1/10
A painful waste of time.
ungy3575 May 2007
it's amazing to me that a society which has mastered the concept of fire is capable of making a film this bad. Too insipidly, cloyingly cutesy to be edgy, too crass, juvenile and vulgar to be cute, and not funny enough to be either.

Additionally, there is not one single iota of genuine wit, emotion, or originality in even one frame of this odious film. It's as someone took "At First Sight", "Daredevil", "My Big fat Greek Wedding" and "Bend Like Beckham" (among others) and threw them in a blender. Worse than that the film is insulting to every group it portrays: blind people, Italian-American, African-Americans, Indian-Americans, limousine drivers, therapists. Even the portrayal of prostitutes is somehow beneath the dignity of the profession.

The ludicrous, predictable plot would be easily forgivable. After all, this is a romantic comedy. We're there to have fun and feel good. But this film sabotages itself so completely with violent swings from saccharine to sleazy that it's just about unwatchable. It's not just bad, it's "Plan 9 From Outer Space" bad. There is no justice if it doesn't reach the IMDb's worst list.

Considering that director James Keach and producer/co-star Jane Seymour have done good work in the past, this is all the more painful. A truly horrendous, painful movie-going experience. It was an insult to my backside that it had to sit through this. When I die and go the Hell, I can say "No thnaks. i saw 'Blind Dating.'"
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8/10
A movie with a soul
tom-smid-612-77075219 June 2010
Reading the title and seeing the cover made me think this was one of those "American Pie" movies. En contraire mes amis, this movie made me laugh and feel sad at the same time.

The story of Danny's life (pretty darn well written) was touching. The story tells you how wonderful and sad true love can be at the same time. It makes you feel how less fortunate people go through life.

This movie is pure human, and that's what I liked about it.

If you like a good story with some funny and touching moments, I would definitely recommend this one as it's one of the better ones I've seen out there.
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1/10
What a piece of trash!
jdevriend1 April 2007
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I saw this movie at the AFI Dallas film festival. James Keane, the director, happened to be there with his wife, Jane Seymour (who is in the movie). He said it's being released in May and if you like it, tell your friends. Well, since I absolutely hated it, I figured I'd do the same. And then I expanded "friends" to include "everyone I could possibly think of".

At the beginning of the movie, we find out that Danny is 22, he's been blind all his life, and he's looking for love. That's about where the fun stops because from this point on he becomes a vehicle for cheap jokes and stereotypes. See Danny run down a hill and smack into a tree! See Danny get tricked into picking up dog poop because his brother tells him it's candy! See Danny walk right smack into a door! See Danny slip and fall on a toy! See Danny's therapist taking off her clothes because she finds him attractive and he can't see her! See his brother faking bench-pressing reps at the gym because he can't see the weights!

His slimy brother, Larry (played by Eddie Kaye Thomas, who apparently watched a lot of Mickey Rourke movies to prepare for the role), just wants him to get laid and sets him up with a string of predictably awful dates. See Danny's first date turn into a complete basket case the minute she finds out he's blind! See Danny's man-eating second date chase him into a bathroom stall! See Danny's third date paw at him under the table and tell a potential John that she costs $500 per visit!

By the way, Larry runs a limo service and he rents it out to prostitutes and their johns when he isn't busy. And this leads to an appalling stereotype. See the Asian man taking lots of pictures and asking Larry to take one of him with his hooker!

Wait, there's more. Leeza, a receptionist at a doctor's office for blind patients, takes a liking to Danny. (Because apparently you have to be someone who works with blind people to ever fall in love with one.) But she's Indian, and therefore her family has an arranged marriage set up for her. See Leeza fighting her mother for the right to marry whoever she wants! See the predictable lowlife she's been matched up with!

This is the first movie I've seen in forever that made me think of Roger Ebert's famous review of "North" as a comparison. You know the one - "I hated this movie. Hated hated hated hated hated this movie." It was stupid, insulting, and actually offensive at times. I guess it was trying to be like "The 40-Year-Old Virgin", which I really enjoyed, but there's a huge difference between that movie and this one. "Virgin" treated its main character with respect, and its characters had human flaws of their own that explained some of their antics. But this movie treats Danny like a joke surrounded by phoned-in caricatures. There's probably a good movie out there about the social awkwardness that can result from being blind, but this is absolutely not it. To think James Keane said he was really proud of this movie.
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Leaves much to be desired
Gordon-1120 September 2007
This is a comedy about a blind guy realising that he has never had any taste of women, and hence searches for his first love.

The poster suggests that this is a teenage sex comedy. However, just a few horrible dating scenes are not enough to make it into a comedy. It is not a drama either as there is too little portrayal of the characters feelings. Most of the characters are too clichéd and stereotypical to be funny. The relationship between Danny and Leeza is unconvincing either. The whole film lacks the substance which attracts the viewers to continue finding out what happened.

At least, a film about blind people gets made. It reminds people about the extra hardships that blind people face. Such a theme is not often explored. I guess the filmmakers should be applauded for their effort, but the outcome of it leaves much to be desired.
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1/10
A crime against humanity.
bigbaddude6717 August 2007
This movie not only made me question my love of film, it made me question the existence of God. Simply horrendous, excruciating and degrading from the first frame to the last. A putrid pastiche of so many other, better films (many of which weren't very good).

The acting ranges from fair to abysmal. The direction is . . . non-existent. The script . . . is an abomination. Predictably and formulaic to the pointing of being insulting to the intelligence of Vin Diesel, crass and juvenile, and NOT THE LEAST BIT FUNNY.

Instead of seeing this film, convert $10.00 into nickels, and flush them one by one down the toilet. It will be accomplish the same effect, and be more fun.

If you're a teenage to 21 year old girl pining for Chris Pine . . . wait and see him in a better movie, which would be ANY OTHER MOVIE HE MAKES. I'm not denying he has charisma, but NO ONE has enough charisma to care this disaster, this joke of a movie, this painful, insulting, insipid, noxious, toxic bore.

And I'm going easy on it.
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2/10
Doesn't know what it wants to be
cool_as_ice145 July 2007
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Is it supposed to be a romantic comedy, a drama about interracial dating or perhaps a feel good story about a blind man wanting to see and finding something special instead? This movie is a train wreck and though it initially seems like a good concept, the execution is way off!! After watching this movie, I am still confused about what the viewer is supposed to see? It doesn't entertain (there are a lot of movies out there that do the same thing less painfully), it doesn't provide a message and it doesn't even excel at being a good romantic comedy. It seems that through using an old clichéd storyline (blind guy falls in love), a twist is put upon this but whether that pays off, really is a different story.

'Blind Dating' chronicles the life of a blind man, Johnny who at 22 realizes that he has yet to fall in love. After a string of horrible blind dates, he falls in love with a receptionist at the clinic which he is going to, she happens to be Indian, and therefore drama ensues.

I would recommend seeing this movie only if you are extremely bored or there is nothing else to watch. After watching this movie, I have wasted an hour or so of my time which I won't get back. The writer should have really done many more rewrites in this script, and although the execution of this movie begs you to like it - at the end you are left with nothing but an big empty hole.
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10/10
Blind dating
dedebutton216 May 2007
The whole movie was very good. Steve Wellington who played young Danny did a great acting job. He seems very talented. I thought that he played a very realistic part. I also thought that the movie and all the actors were very good. The combination of actor worked really good together and it was a great story line too. I would tell people to go see this and enjoy. Hopefully you will be seeing this cast again very soon in upcoming movies. I give this a nine star. Make sure to go see it. It is in Theaters now. Enjoy and have fun at the movies. It is kind of a chick flick so be sure to bring a date................... Thank you.
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5/10
Should you watch it?!
molnosnorbert29 August 2018
Yes! Usually movies like this are good and this is no exception! But it's not one of the best so.. No! If you wanna watch a very special romantic movie.
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5/10
Unrealized Potential
Uriah439 October 2018
Blind since birth "Danny" (Chris Pine) has never had a relationship with a woman and his brother "Larry" (Eddie Kaye Thomas) is intent on correcting this problem. Yet, although Danny is initially willing to go along with his brother's match-making arrangements, he soon discovers that all of the women he has been set up with have issues of their own which completely turns him off. But then one day he meets a health care assistant named "Leeza" (Anjali Jay) who intrigues him very much. Likewise, she also has feelings for him as well. The only problem is that she is engaged to another man and because of her Hindu upbringing she has a great deal of difficulty in trying to break things off with him. Now rather than reveal any more I will just say that this was an okay romantic-comedy which is entertaining to a certain degree and definitely had some potential. Unfortunately, this film didn't quite have enough comedy or romance to sustain my interest or elevate it any higher than a rating of average.
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2/10
Unwatch this.
santiagocosme10 December 2016
I don't wish I was blind because that would be an overstatement, but deep down I feel that it would have been better than watching this monstrous horror of a movie. A blind man who tries to find love by faking that he actually can see. Obviously, the guy is so good at faking it and girls are so dumb that no one actually notices that the guy is totally blinded. Meanwhile, his brother tries to set him up with hookers who are super hot, and he gets upset cause he only wants to find true love. Will he find it? Well, do I really need to answer this question. What do you think? How does the heroe of a movie like this ends up? Marrying a lovely girl or forever alone? Exactly. This movie is punishing. It's worse than door to door selling and getting each potential customer slamming the door on your face. The worst thing is that I watched it right after "40 year old Virgin". As I look back I wonder what the hell did I do to inflict so much pain on myself.
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8/10
Humour, pathos and depth - what more do you want?
andym200910 January 2010
OK, I guess if you like action, horror or sci-fi you are right out of luck - but this is a really enjoyable movie. The start was a bit off-target for me and I thought it was going to be very slap-stick but actually it turned out it was making a few points about how kids deal with differences (I think). From then if started to contrast the way adults deal with disabilities like blindness, but not in a heavy way, always using humour - until it came to love - then it changed the approach again. I would perhaps have liked a bit more of the "contrasting cultures" difficulties but that might have been a bit too much to ask. At the end of the day I do think it is a movie I'll watch again.
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