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270 out of 313 people found the following review useful:
Misconceptions, 14 November 2005
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PacManPolarBear from Canada
I have watched this movie several times and have come to a number of
conclusions. The first is that 90% of the North American audience knows
nothing about Asian films and more to the point, martial arts. Several
other IMDb members commented on the repetitiveness of the movie,
comparisons to Jackie Chan/Jet Li and its use of Kung Fu.
First of all martial arts flicks will always be redundant to some
extent since there are only so many ways to pick a fight, but stories
do vary as does the quality of action. Tom Yum Goong is very similar to
Ong Bak in its simplistic story and the noble feeling that surrounds
Tony Jaa's character. Mind you in this movie Tony is much more violent
and brutal to his enemies. His sorrow at the loss of the elephants is a
big part of his rage and the simplicity of the story left lots of space
for action. Perhaps left simple for international appeal or for the
simple fact that a simple, pure story would be more poignant. Anyway,
if you go to a martial arts flick looking to pick it apart and analyze
the acting skills then your a fool and should never leave your American
Hollywood watering hole.
As to comparing Tony Jaa to Jackie Chan or Jet Li, are you insane?!
Both Jackie and Jet are in their forties. Both are from China and went
through actual training schools and academy's as well competitions. Wu
Shu, Crane, Drunken Boxing etc... These are the styles these men made
famous. Jackie built his comedic style from the ground up with his
amazing acrobatic abilities, fighting skill and on screen charm. Now
I'm not a Jackie Chan fan by any means, but credit where it is due. Jet
Li was one of the youngest Chinese National Tournament winners ever and
blew people away with his Tai Chi and Shaolin style Kung Fu.
How does this relate to Tony Jaa? It doesn't at all and thats the
point. Tony was very poor growing up in Thailand idolizing Bruce lee in
the movies. He earned every break he has in his own way, and built his
style accordingly. This movie is so amazing because it not just Kung Fu
and Karate for the thousandth time. Tony is a master of Muay Thai
Kickboxing, which he uses 80% of the movie. Now you don't even need to
know anything about fighting to notice the difference between karate
(or other styles) and Muay Thai. Through the diversity of his fighting
style as he battles people who using everything from crane style Kung
Fu to Capoeira, you understand why comparing him to others is unfair.
While he has trained in similar martial arts its obvious that he is
unique. He is in the best shape of his life and just now coming into
his prime. His screen presence, skill and experience mean he could be
as big or bigger than Jackie or Jet in the next ten years. At the very
least he is going to be a major Thai action star for years.
Also people keep in mind this is a Thai movie. Hollywood wouldn't even
have finished the credits before they ran out of money if they worked
with the same budget. More International success will give Tony Jaa
access to a bigger budget, more talent (ie writers, language
instructors, studios etc..) and allow him to grow. Its easy to bash but
look at the low budget flicks Jackie Chan or any other martial artist
made when they where twenty and you'll see that this movie is much much
better than most.
Remember it all just opinion people, everyones got one. PacManPolarBear
110 out of 139 people found the following review useful:
the best action movie of the year, 12 August 2005
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LaHaine from Bangkok
Had the opportunity to watch Tom Yum Goong at a local cinema here in
Bangkok on opening night. Expectations were high, and the movie
fulfilled them in both good and bad.
The action was some of the best caught on film (do they still use
film?) that I have ever seen. Panom "Ja" Yeerum again showed that with
his background of Muay Thai, gymnastics and stuntman work, he can
deliver action scenes that are graceful and brutal at the same time,
and will have the audience picking up their jaws from the floor at
times. They don't use gimmicks like strings or special FX, so
everything you see him do is stuff he really does. Except maybe one
flying knee where he literally flew about 5 meters into the guy so he
must have been launched off something.
However, as good as the action was, the obvious comparison would be to
Ong Bak (same lead, same director). And as amazing as TYG's action
scenes were, they didn't have the raw power that Ong Bak delivered. I
think this may be because of different stuntmen - in Ong Bak, a lot of
the people that got beaten up were probably amateur Thai stuntmen or
retired muay thai dudes (scene in cave, for example) who don't mind
taking a very heavy kick or punch to make a few Baht and be in a movie.
So the impacts were very hard and very real in Ong Bak, and it made the
action that much more "in-your-face". In TYG, due to the action taking
place in Australia and the higher production values, the stuntmen
didn't seem to get beaten up as badly. Sure, it was still better than
any other action movie besides Ong Bak, but not quite as raw and
powerful.
Then... the plot. The plot has already been criticized by many, and
obviously it is full of holes, unintentional humor (unless there really
is an English-language news channel in Australia where the newscaster
has a strong Thai accent?) and so on. But it was nowhere near as bad as
Ong Bak. Ong Bak really is a "fast forward to the action scenes" type
of movie, whereas Tom Yum Goong is a watchable movie in its entirety.
The first 15 minutes have barely any action at all, but the elephant
scenes and the beauty of rural Thailand were beautifully shot and the
actors did a surprisingly good job - both Panom and the guy who played
his father. It seems that Panom's acting classes have paid off. Now if
only he can learn passable English, he'll really have a chance of
becoming the next big thing in Martial Arts action movies.
The (intentional) comic relief was much better than in Ong Bak - Mum
Jok Mok plays a Thai policeman in Sydney. How he got to be Sergeant
there, we'll never know, but he has a few funny lines - most of which
are much funnier to Thais or people who know Thai culture than to the
international audience. Like the ".... oh, oh, oh - and Laos!" line.
More laughs came from cameos like the Jackie Chan lookalike at the
airport and Sek Loso drinking M150 on the street in Sydney. Not so much
product placement as an inside joke ("go inter") for the Thai audience.
Getting the audience to cheer for the hero in an action movie obviously
requires a nasty villain or a group of villains. Tom Yum Goong does
well in this regard as well - both the Thai mobsters and especially
their bosses in the Asian mafia in Sydney are an interesting, suitably
detestable bunch. Also their "bodyguards", from the Capoeira guy to the
three huge Caucasians in the end, are very good opponents for Panom
"Ja" to beat up on. Furthermore, having the motivator be elephants
(respected animals, and to Kham, family members) instead of a stolen
head of a Buddha statue (like in Ong Bak) works much better, especially
for non-Thai audiences. Good acting by the baby elephant in one early
scene in the movie, by the way! Deserving of an Animal Oscar.
To sum up, Tom Yum Goong has a decent plot, a good cast with better
acting than was to be expected, good cinematography, and of course,
plenty of cracking, beautifully choreographed action that will not fail
to impress any Martial Arts action movie enthusiast.
Highlights: Kham learning how to fight the Capoeira guy in a very well
choreographed scene, and the bone-crunching extravaganza that was like
Kill Bill Vol. 1's restaurant scene without the swords.
An excellent achievement in its genre. A whole lot of fun. 9/10.
71 out of 92 people found the following review useful:
Jaa is amazing !!! The script on the other hand..........., 7 December 2005
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Merklin from United Kingdom
As a coherent , well acted film tom yum goong is a failure.As an
opportunity to see tony jaa completely and utterly destroy his
opponents in the most awe inspiring and brutal ways possible, its a
huge success! The action in tom yum goong is phenomenal to say the
least - tony jaa proves that ong bak was no fluke!The part where jaa
does battle with a gang of bikers and roller bladers is an exciting
sequence , reminiscent of jackie chan in his police story days. The
fight where he battles his way to the top floor of a restaurant in one
continuous tracking shot, is a truly amazing piece of work that demands
to be re-winded more than once .The fight that pits jaa against dozens
of suited henchmen is a bone crunching, applause worthy spectacle that
proves what ong bak fans already know- TONY JAA IS THE MAN !!!!! These
fights are just some of a collection masterful action sequences .
As for the rest of the film...lets put it this way- if the action was
no good then tom yum goong would be unwatchable. The action makes up
for the moronic , near pointless plot . I know that we don't watch
these sort of films for plot, but tom yum goong takes the cake with its
"one man looking for his elephant" story!And don't get me started on
the acting, particularly the lines spoken in English.Tony jaa needs to
work with a decent script writer in future....
Weak on pretty much everything else except the fights , tom yum goong
has Superior action and confirms that tony jaa is an amazing performer.
64 out of 87 people found the following review useful:
A Nutshell Review: Tom-Yum-Goong, 2 November 2005
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DICK STEEL from Singapore
After having watched Tony Jaa in Ong Bak about a week ago on TV, I was
waiting for the day when Tom-Yum-Goog finally made its way here. There
was a film in between these two, called The Bodyguard, which wasn't
released in the theatres here, so I guess I gotta hit the shops to look
for it.
My friend has likened the introduction of Tom-Yum-Goong to watching
National Geographic, and he's right. It's an idyllic Thai village scene
where Kham (Tony Jaa) grows up and bonds together with herds of
elephants, and it might even looked as if it came right out of
Kipling's The Jungle Book.
It's a picture of calm before the storm, and the first 10 minutes set
the scene, as the elephants will play an important aspect in this movie
as it gets elevated into mythical status (check out the CGI scene,
looks like Jackie Chan's The Myth, with its historical fights). You'll
know right away that this is a Thai movie, with its excellent fusion of
Thai elements into the storyline - the elephants, the rivers, the
rituals, Buddhism, "Tom-Yum-Goong", and of course, Muay Thai.
With elephants, the natural baddies are first and foremost, the
poachers, who kidnap our hero's pets (wrong move). Of course these
baddies belong to a larger crime family and syndicate operating out of
Sydney, Australia, which deals with drugs, human and animal
trafficking, prostitution, all with the blessings of corrupt cops, and
led by a transvestite (yes, you heard me right).
Tom-Yum-Goong may refer to a shrimp dish in Thailand, but in this
movie, it refers to a restaurant which serves as a front for illegal
activities. Action fans need not wait too long for Tony Jaa action, as
he plunges head on into fights with the Thai gangsters first, in their
bungalow hideout. And that's just to whet your appetite for more
mayhem! Bridging the fights from Thailand to Australia is a short boat
chase scene that looked right out from Indiana Jones and the Last
Crusade, but that's the only weak action sequence in Tom-Yum-Goong.
There are plenty of fights in Sydney to keep all action fans happy -
like the massive battle with the Aussie streetgangs (on roller blades
and bikes) in an abandoned warehouse, which also showcased Jaa's
agility and acrobatic ability. I thought that somehow the
cinematography during this sequence let Jaa down at times, especially
when he weaved in and out of the trains, the camera just couldn't keep
up, and was positioned at a bad angle.
But that aside, it made up for itself in a beautifully filmed,
one-motion tracking shot of Jaa making his way through a four-storey
restaurant, kicking major rear, without seemingly any cuts (I said
seemingly, as there was a part where water droplets stained the camera,
but somehow disappeared abruptly). Doom has its gimmicky first-person
shooter perspective, this one here has its classic third-person
perspective, as if you're controlling Jaa in a coin-operated fight
console, taking on the baddies with various swift moves.
If you've known by now, I kinda likened Jaa's movies so far to Bruce
Lee's (some see shades of Matrix in this movie), and there was another
action sequence in which Jaa was up against hordes of gangsters in an
enclosed room (think Lee in the Japanese dojo in Fists of Fury), and he
floored them all with bone-crushing, limb-breaking kicks and punches.
Move aside Steven Seagal, Jaa's doing it faster, and more lethal! The
fights with the huge wrestlers too was a highlight (ala Lee in Game of
Death with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar), as was the final fight with the final
"boss".
Perhaps my favourite in the movie is the scene at the temple. Water,
Fire, and a looming Buddha, Jaa takes on three distinct exponents
one-on-one - the hip hop breakdancer, the Chinese wushu sword expert,
and the Western wrestler. While this movie has done away with Ong-Bak's
repetitive sequences (yes, we know what Jaa is capable of already), the
slow-mo in this particular set is pure poetry in motion. It's different
from Ong-Bak, in that Jaa, like Lee in Enter The Dragon, gets beaten up
and injured. You can inflict pain and injure Jaa, but like Lee, he
bounces back with a vengeance, sans shirt too.
Jaa has let his action do the talking instead of his acting abilities
(no stunt double, no wire-work, no special effects), and I have no
qualms with that, given after all, this is an out and out action movie.
Petchtai Wongkamlao, who plays Inspector Mark, and has been featured in
all of Jaa's movies, returns to add his comedic touch to the film as a
Thai-immigrant policeman in Sydney, and fans of Ong Bak will also be
pleased that this movie is helmed by the same director Prachya Pinkaew.
While Hollywood struggles to find worthy successors to its 80s and 90s
action heroes like Stallone, Van Damme, and Schwarzeneggar, Asia has
already found one to takeover the mantle from Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan
and Jet Li (as the latter two seemed to have drifted and indicated a
preference for dramas). He's Thai, and his name is Tony Jaa. You heard
it here first, he's gonna be setting the bar for action movies to come.
He can only get better, and I'm already a huge fan!
45 out of 60 people found the following review useful:
a spectacle of martial arts greatness, 4 January 2006
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blaxican006 from Arizona
Ong Bak was a fantastic achievement by the young Thai fighter America
has come to embrace as Tony Jaa. Fantastic stunts, amazing fight
choreography, and an overwhelming sense of brutal martial arts action
that has been missing in fight films since Jackie Chan's Rumble in the
Bronx. However, the overall success of Ong Bak was diminished by the
lack of intriguing characters and a fluid story that actually made some
sense. Tom Yum Goong starts off on the same foot, but then takes the
viewer in an entirely different direction
an example of one of the most
explosive and entertaining martial arts movies of ALL TIME.
To go into intricate detail about the plot outlines of TYG will do you
no good, it will not make you want to see this movie. What makes me so
passionate about Tony Jaa and his visual appeal is his overall dynamic
nature in the fight scenes. As told in the plot outline, his elephants
get stolen, and he must fight to get them back
and fighting is what he
does like no one else I have ever seen. It doesn't matter how many
opponents appear before Tony, he takes them all in stride, and excels
in dramatic fashion, either by his flying acrobatic kicks or his
powerful breathtaking punches. But what truly makes this film unique is
Tony's ability to embrace a new type of Muay Thai made especially for
the movie: Muay Kotchasan.
Although this may not make much sense to you or interest you, trust me,
when you view this film and see Muay Kotchasan put into action, you
will witness something never before seen on film. Tony's moves are so
brutal at times, you can't help but grimace and wonder how the stunt
men could take such punishment. He breaks elbows, rips quadriceps,
destroys ligaments, cracks vertebra
I could go on, but the movie pretty
much speaks for itself. But, if I had to choose the most exciting part
of TYG, it has to be Tony's second bout with Nathan Jones. Learning
from his mistakes in the first fight, Tony's adapts his fighting style
to his smaller frame, and uses Nathan's size against him in a chilling
display of David vs. Goliath
it is quite a sight to behold.
Overall, Tom Yum Goong is an awesome spectacle of Tony Jaa's fighting
ability, and if you truly enjoyed Ong Bak, then be ready to be blown
away by something far better.
40 out of 53 people found the following review useful:
Where's my elephant!?!, 31 July 2006
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James Alex Neve from London, UK
The makers of 2003's Ong-Bak are back with bang, a crash, a couple of
elephants and many, many cracks. In fact, every other word spoken
appears to be "Argh!". Muay Thay expert-extraordinaire Tony Jaa returns
to lead us once again, as his sacred elephants are poached from
Thailand and sent to, of all places, Australia. As our hero Kham, he
must travel there himself to basically kick the living snot out of
anyone who steps in his way. And that's about it.
The maker of this film, Prachya Pinkaew, is either a really shoddy
storyteller, or has clocked on to the fact that no one goes to see
martial arts films for the plot. Warrior King has an almost identical
structure to his first film Ong Bak: a good 25 minutes or so of
religious Thai imagery, villagers roaming around with animals before
someone comes along and messes everything up. Petchtai Wongkamlao
essentially reprises the comedy role he played in the previous release,
although this time he hogs all the comic moments, as the wafer-thin
script offers little in compensation for its action scenes. All the
English-spoken acting is terrible. With that said I'm assuming most of
the foreign language acting is terrible too, but for obvious reasons
the Australian acting stood out more. The script is full of age old
Hollywood clichés such as cops being taken off the case, only to go
vigilante, gold-hearted prostitutes and a whole host of colourful
looking gangsters (former WWE reject Nathan Jones makes a hilarious
cameo) that wouldn't look out of place in a straight-to-video Steven
Seagal flick.
And yet despite the glaring faults with a film as silly as this, none
of the criticisms truly matter for one simple reason: Tony Jaa is
absolutely amazing. Watching our protagonist fly kick the hell out of
everyone before performing all sorts of acrobatic stunts will have your
jaw on the floor. The man can obviously smash through thin plot points
as fast as he can human bones. The film isn't badly shot either. Apart
from getting a nice sense of Thai culture and a splendid view of
Sidney, Warrior King is expertly choreographed. There is one remarkable
sequence in which our protagonist battles his way through four stories
of the same building absolutely smashing the hell out of anything thing
that moves, which seems to go on forever, taken all in one single
steady-cam shot. It would make David Lean jealous.
Granted if you've seen Ong Bak watching Muay Thay for a second time
won't have the same head-crushing impact. Whilst Warrior King boasts
plenty of superbly choreographed action sequences, it doesn't peak as
well as the much more pure Ong Bak managed to. The movie does, however,
generate a sense of darkness amidst the stalking threat of campy
buffoonery. So it's an impressive sophomore effort, obviously catering
more towards an ever increasingly cognizant western audience.
38 out of 51 people found the following review useful:
PURE ADRENALINE RUSH! Superb Action, TONY JAA style ... BAD EDITING, 25 August 2005
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Atis Ruchirawat from Thailand
I've never been a BIG fan of Thai movies (eventhough I am Thai) that
is, until I saw "Ong Bak". This was why I had high expectations for
"Tom Yum Goong". There was tremendous HYPE in the Thai media just
before the movie opened so as you can imagine, it didn't get good
reviews from the critics (ah ...expectations, it changes everything).
Feedbacks from the general public were pretty much MIXED. Some liked it
a lot and some didn't like it at all. Don't get me wrong, everyone
thought that Tony Jaa was absolutely amazing! some of them just didn't
like the story.
In my honest personal opinion, I thought the movie was much BETTER than
Ong Bak in terms of action sequences and fight scenes. The story I had
to admit, was a bit weak. But come on, what are you really paying your
money to see ... story? OR fight scenes? If the answer is the latter, I
guarantee that you will enjoy "Tom Yum Goong". If you thought Tony Jaa
was great in Ong Bak, you haven't seen anything yet. In "Tom Yum
Goong", Tony goes all the way to show you how talented he really is!
Muay Thai, grappling, gymnastics, weapons, etc. You'll also get to see
what happens when a Thai Boxer (Muay Thai stylist) go against other
martial arts like Tae Kwon Do, Wushu, etc. Some of Tony's new moves in
this movie are ABSOLUTELY STUNNING!!!! and I can't emphasize on the
word "STUNNING" enough. There are scenes in this movie which reminded
me of 2 of my favorite Bruce Lee's movies: GAME OF DEATH and FIST OF
FURY.
Personally, I think the problem ISN'T with the story NOR plot BUT with
EDITING. There will be some parts in the movie where you may get a bit
confused because some crucial scenes were cut out. I have heard (in a
TV interview with the Director) that initially, the final cut was 30-40
minutes longer than the theatrical version. The Director got commented
by several industry experts after the first screening that the movie
was TOO LONG and he had only 5 days for editing before the Gala
Premiere. Also, you need to know a bit about Thai culture to understand
some of the rationales behind the story line (eg. Why was the elephant
so important that Kham had to risk his life, traveled to Australia and
fight all these gang members just to find it ... certainly NOT because
the elephant was a beloved family pet,I can tell you that!).
I hope that by the time the movie hits theaters in the US and other
countries, they would have re-edited the movie. Columbia Tri-star has
already bought distribution rights to this movie and I am sure that all
you Tony Jaa fans outside of Thailand will definitely get to see this
great action flick SOON. If you LOVE Martial Arts movie, this is a
DEFINITE "MUST SEE" Film for you!
**DON'T BE FOOLED! That's only a Jackie Chan Look-alike ... the often
mentioned scene with Tony Jaa running into Jackie Chan really ISN'T
Jackie, just a look-alike. The guy is a Thai shop owner who apparently
got noticed when he did a TV commercial for a real estate company call
Noble House. In that commercial, he talked about how he was able to
entertain people who passed by his shops by portraying himself as
Jackie Chan. The title of that commercial was "BE MORE THAN JUST
YOURSELF". You can check the End Credits if you think otherwise.
48 out of 74 people found the following review useful:
Another Great Action Flick from the same director Ong Bak, 19 August 2005
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GrungeRock from Australia
The definition of Tom Yam Goong refers to the authentic Thai food which
can be found anywhere in a Thai restaurant. But bear in mind that this
movie has nothing to do with that.
I got a chance to watch this movie in Hong Kong. I was mesmerized by
the great action scenes done by Yaanom Phenom (Tony Ja). Tony Ja plays
a role of Kham, a character who pursed a gang that has kidnapped his
elephants.
He fought with so many great fighters, which includes the BMX and the
roller skate gang, Johnny, the Brazilian guy with cool kicks, the
sword-man and those huge guys and of course the leader.
One of the few scenes i consider great are: the continuous fighting
shot from the basement up to the higher level of the building (which
was taken at one shot without editing and somewhat reminds me of Bruce
Lee End of Game) and the bone crackling scenes with all the gangs! I
honestly think if you are into martial art flicks, this is one of the
best movie ever come out!
26 out of 37 people found the following review useful:
Poor storyline, great action. A review., 10 August 2005
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bangkok-1 from Thailand
*** This review may contain spoilers ***
The hardest part of watching this movie was that the action scenes were
so good, but the story was painfully bad. You may want the DVD version
so you can just skip through the story line to the beautifully
choreographed fight scenes. The movie starts off with so much promise -
great pictures of rural Thailand and majestic elephants, until its
first departure from reality with the shooting by a local politician of
Tony Jaa's (Kham) father, over the taking of the white elephant. Dude
you are a politician, the guy is 70, you are surrounded by henchman,
why the hell would you shoot an old man when you could easily just take
the elephant? From here on Tony is chasing after the elephant
kidnappers, which takes him to Sydney where he uncovers endangered
species restaurant. He ends up fighting Xing Jing (Rose) the katoey
(lady boy) evil head of the Chinese gang.
The best: the 4 minute single shot action scene. This alone makes the
movie worth seeing. Starting at the bottom of a 5 story circling stair
case, he works his way to the 5th floor kicking a ton of ass on the
way. Buy the time he reached the first floor you begin to realize that
the camera is following the action is on a single shot.
After possibly breaking the record for longest single cut action scene,
Jaa goes for the most broken arms award turn up your speakers to hear
every last crunch.
And then he goes for the first x-games fight scene. He takes on
rollerbladers, BMXers, a trial bike rider and a 4 wheeler. Where are
the skaters??? The biggest annoyances: - Petchtai Wongkamlao (Mark). He
was in the first movie (Ong-Bok) and I was hoping it would be his last.
While I found him totally annoying, the Thai audience seemed to laugh
at him.
- The fake new reports
how can you possibly be doing English language
news??? A few notes: Jackie Chan makes a brief cameo by bumping into
Jaa in the airport. Nice touch.
A singer from the band Loso does a little product placement for M-150
in one of the Australian shots.
And a blatant plug an Indian couple walking are the street are
overheard, talking about how disgusting it is to buy pirated DVDs.
Conclusion- The movie is a must see for the action scenes really
amazing and unique stuff. The story, unfortunately, was on par with a
porno.. making you want to fast forward to the Tony Jaa scenes.
Hopefully we'll see Jaa picked up by a different movie studio so that
his work can really blossom.
34 out of 55 people found the following review useful:
Awesome Muay Thai action with some good comic relief., 1 September 2005
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kpaske from United States
I saw this movie in Chiang Mai, Thailand the day it was released. Since I really enjoyed Ong Bak, which also starred Tony Jaa and Petchthai Wongkamlao, I knew this movie would be great. I was NOT disappointed! The action scenes with Tony Jaa are incredible and I believe he will likely continue to bring the Muay Thai style of fighting to the big screen worldwide. Wongkamlao (as inspector Mark) is HILARIOUS. If you don't get it, you just don't get it. He's kind of like Jackie Chan - if you don't think he's funny, you're just not going to like him. The story line is a little hokey, which is why I only gave it a 9 out of 10, but as far as Thai movies go, in this one the plot was above average. And it helps to understand the culture a little bit to understand why this guy (Kham) is so hung up on getting his elephant back. Either way, this movie has some great action scenes and some great comic relief, making it a "must see" in my book.
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