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What We Do Is Secret -- Clip: It's my people
What We Do Is Secret -- Clip: Rodney on the rock
What We Do Is Secret -- Clip: You're a germ


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Release Date:
8 August 2008 (USA) See more »
A biopic of punk legend Darby Crash and his band, the Germs. | Add synopsis »
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2 wins & 1 nomination See more »
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very mixed bag; watch it for the performances, and one or two things See more (24 total) »


  (in credits order)

Shane West ... Darby Crash

Bijou Phillips ... Lorna Doom

Rick Gonzalez ... Pat Smear

Noah Segan ... Don Bolles

Ashton Holmes ... Rob Henley

Tina Majorino ... Michelle

Lauren German ... Belinda

Keir O'Donnell ... Chris Ashford

Sebastian Roché ... Claude Kickboy Bessy

Azura Skye ... Casey Cola

Katharine Leonard ... Jena

Rachael Santhon ... Malissa
rest of cast listed alphabetically:

Noah Abrams ... Audience Member #1
Daniel Alvarado ... Bar Patron
David Alvarado ... Bar Patron

Ozzy Benn ... Captain Sensible

Thom Bishops ... Tony the Hustler

Christopher Boyd ... Dave Vanian

Missy Doty ... Amber

Brian Gleason ... Regi Mental

Leslie Grossman

Amy Halloran ... Becky

Michele Hicks ... Penelope Spheeris

Kylan James ... Rat Scabies
Chad Liffmann ... Audience Member

J.P. Manoux ... Rodney Bingenheimer
Chandra McWhorter ... Farrah-Fawcett Minor
Greg McWhorter ... Eddie Subtitle
Lachlan McWhorter ... John Morris

Howard S. Miller ... Starwood Manager
Jonathan Milliken ... Young Darby Crash

Bru Muller ... Teacher

Randi Newton ... Gerber

Paul Nygro ... Bob Biggs

Brian Oerly ... Bouncer

Ray Park ... Brendan Mullen
Trevor Parsons ... Billy Zoom

Chris Pontius ... Black Randy
Peter Prins ... Pogo Dancing Punk

Sara Rivas ... Shannon

Scott L. Schwartz ... Biker
Anna Waronker ... Joan Jett
John Westernoff ... Auditioning Drummer

Richard Wharton ... Whiskey Manager
Shane Finkenkeller ... HB Skinhead (uncredited)
Graham Hart ... Whiskey Douglas (uncredited)

Giddle Partridge ... Dinah Cancer (uncredited)

Justin Sandler ... Hippie Drummer (uncredited)
Christian Schmook ... Bartender (uncredited)

Genoveva Winsen ... Pat Burnette (uncredited)

Directed by
Rodger Grossman 
Writing credits
(in alphabetical order)
Michelle Baer Ghaffari  co-story writer
Rodger Grossman  co-story writer
Rodger Grossman  screenplay

Produced by
John W. Davidson .... associate producer
Michelle Baer Ghaffari .... co-producer
Bruce Wayne Gillies .... line producer
Rodger Grossman .... producer
Michael LaFetra .... executive producer
David G. Mack .... executive producer
Kevin Mann .... producer
Damon Martin .... executive producer
Stephen Nemeth .... producer
Matthew Perniciaro .... producer
Andre Relis .... co-executive producer
Lise Romanoff .... co-executive producer
Todd Traina .... producer
Andy Wombwell .... co-producer
Cinematography by
Andrew Huebscher 
Film Editing by
Ross Albert 
Joel Plotch (co-editor)
Casting by
Jay Scully 
Production Design by
John Mott 
Set Decoration by
Julieann Getman 
Costume Design by
Julia Caston 
Makeup Department
Matthew Kasten .... assistant hair stylist
Heather Mages .... makeup department head
Isabelle Murray .... assistant makeup artist
Elissa Prager .... hair stylist
Deborah Rutherford .... makeup designer (as Deborah Patino)
Yoi .... key hair stylist
Production Management
Christian Bevington .... unit production manager
Brian Buckland .... additional production manager
Minor Childers .... post-production supervisor
Second Unit Director or Assistant Director
David Clair .... second unit director
Morgan Elam .... additional first assistant director
David Mendoza .... first assistant director
Joe Moore .... additional second assistant director
Sam Nainoa .... second second assistant director: additional photography
Blake Perkinson .... second assistant director
Kyle Sherman .... assistant director: additional photography
Kyle Sherman .... second second assistant director
Austin Sipes .... second second assistant director
Matt Tulve .... second second assistant director
Art Department
Frederick Agnew .... lead scenic artist
Kalvar Antzon .... carpenter
Jen Fiedler .... on-set dresser
McJoel Hamilton .... assistant property master
Derrick Hinman .... property master
Lori Lee Korth .... set dresser
Frank Meroney .... construction coordinator
Mungai Nguku .... swing gang
Blake Sherman .... art department production assistant
Terrance Zdunich .... storyboard artist
Sound Department
Michael Brown .... foley artist
John Fairlamb .... foley mixer
Seann Flynn .... playback
Bill Jenkins .... location sound mixer
Yagmur Kaplan .... sound re-recording mixer
Sylvain Loiseau .... post-production audio manager
Sean O'Malley .... sound
Sergio Reyes .... sound re-recording mixer
Stacey A. Washer .... boom operator
Visual Effects by
Christopher Dusendschon .... digital imaging supervisor: iO FILM
Ron Althoff .... stunt performer
Shawn Crowder .... stunts
Christopher Doyle .... stunt coordinator
Zack Duhame .... stunts
T. Ryan Mooney .... stunts
Sam Situmorang .... stunts
Bryan Thompson .... stunts
Mickey Cassidy .... stunts (uncredited)
Camera and Electrical Department
Darrick Akey .... assistant camera
Alexander Brown .... electrician
Brannon D. Brown .... second assistant camera (as Brannon Brown)
Jonathon Carmichael .... grip
Eddie San Chan .... additional gaffer
Michael Chateauneuf .... best boy electric: additional photography
Jason Cochard .... camera loader
Christian Grosselfinger .... gaffer
Matt Gulbin .... best boy grip
Michael Gulbin .... key grip
Matthew Heckerling .... director of photography: second unit
James Heywood .... key grip
Bryan Hong .... grip: additional photography
Erwin Landau .... Steadicam operator
Mareo-Ahmir Lawson .... grip
Kevin Mucha .... lighting console programmer
Michael O'Connor .... still photographer
John Orphan .... first assistant camera
Cass Rasmussen .... electrician
Nickolas Rossi .... assistant camera (as Nickolas Dylan Rossi)
Sonoko Shimoyama .... additional best boy electric
Andy Steinman .... camera operator: "b" camera
Sam Stewart .... electrician
Sam Stewart .... grip
Dwight Elliott Stone .... key grip: additional photgraphy
Reza Tabrizi .... additional second assistant camera
Raul Vasquez .... grip
Somsy Vejsiri .... best boy electric
Christopher Vinopal .... rigging best boy electric (as Chris Vinopal)
Erin Williams .... still photographer
Michael Witczak .... electrician
Bobby Woo .... lighting network technician
Casting Department
Carol Grant .... extras casting
Jennifer Rudolph .... casting: New York
Costume and Wardrobe Department
Monica Brazelton .... costumer
Amelia Buhrman .... assistant costume designer
Rebecca Fenton Brezovec .... set costumer (as Rebecca Fenton)
Moksha McPherrin .... additional costume designer
Jamie Redwood .... key costumer (as Jamie Bresnan)
Editorial Department
Gary Friedman .... first assistant editor
Zara Park .... digital intermediate post supervisor (as Zara Roberts)
Robb Porter .... post-production Coordinator: Modern VideoFilm
Eric Putz .... telecine dailies colorist
Elvio Sordoni .... assistant editor
Kathy Thomson .... digital intermediate colorist
Music Department
Dean Menta .... music editor
Howard Paar .... music supervisor
Karen Sidlow .... music assistant
Micki Stern .... music clearance
Genoveva Winsen .... soundtrack engineer (uncredited)
Transportation Department
Matthew Ballard .... transportation coordinator
Shay Morgan Brook .... driver
Other crew
Jonathan M. Abrams .... production assistant
Noor Ahmed .... production legal
Jill Becker .... pre-production coordinator
Matthew Bolin .... production assistant (as Matt Bolin)
N. Charlie Brown .... stand-in
Cameron Carlson .... production assistant
William Clark Coit III .... location manager
Jen Dougherty .... assistant to director: pre-production
Pat Fear .... technical advisor
Michael Goss .... assistant production coordinator
Rena Hanover .... production assistant
Kimberley A. Helms .... assistant production coordinator
Klara Jolesz .... assistant to director
Megan Kristen Lane .... production assistant (as Megan Lane)
Jenny Lens .... photography: original source
Sheila Louie .... set medic
Ian Menzies .... unit location manager
Lizz Morhaim .... production assistant
Lucy Ramirez .... caterer
Mark Schaefer .... misc crew
Tracy Scott .... script supervisor
Mary Shellogg .... additional script supervisor
Rob Spence .... additional production coordinator
Sam Vlahovich .... technical advisor (uncredited)
Brandon Zinn .... location assistant
Jessica Hong .... production assistant (uncredited)
Jeff Alulis .... special thanks
Jill Ash .... special thanks
Karl Austen .... special thanks
K.K. Barrett .... special thanks
Jeanine Basinger .... special thanks
Kristen Bell .... special thanks
Solange Bertet .... special thanks
Harold Bronson .... special thanks
Stephanie Bronson .... special thanks
Jeff Byron .... special thanks
Bambi Conway .... special thanks
John Doe .... special thanks
Shephard Fairey .... special thanks
Robbie Fields .... special thanks
Tamara Garfield .... special thanks
Earl Ghaffari .... special thanks
Isa Ghaffari .... special thanks
Mellie Ghaffari .... special thanks
Greg Ginn .... special thanks
Bill Gray .... special thanks
Marshall Grossman .... special thanks
Lukas Haas .... special thanks
Tony Hoffman .... special thanks
Carrie Holt .... special thanks
Amy Horton .... special thanks
Joan Jett .... special thanks
Hellin Killer .... special thanks
Michael Le Blanc .... special thanks
Chad Liffman .... special thanks
Ellen M. Mann .... special thanks
Jack Mann .... special thanks
Doug Mark .... special thanks
Dave Markey .... special thanks
Wendy Marmo .... thanks: Music Clearance
Alexis Martinez .... special thanks
Erin McPherson .... special thanks
Shannon 'Little Doggy' Mila .... special thanks
Jeff Morrone .... special thanks
Howie Pyro .... special thanks
Paul Roessler .... special thanks
Phil Rowland .... special thanks
Penelope Spheeris .... special thanks
Lincoln Stalmaster .... special thanks
Brooke Stites .... special thanks
Ricky Stoutland .... special thanks
Albert Sweet .... special thanks
Darren M. Trattner .... special thanks (as Darren Trattner)
Akiko Uchida .... special thanks
Adrian Velicescu .... special thanks
Lee Vin .... special thanks
Julie Warner .... special thanks
Mike Watt .... special thanks
Monica Weinger .... special thanks
Jeremy Weinstein .... special thanks
Mike White .... special thanks
Steven Wren .... special thanks
Geza X. .... special thanks
Gordon Zacks .... special thanks

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Additional Details

Rated R for drug use, language and brief sexuality
USA:92 min
Aspect Ratio:
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Did You Know?

In the scene at The Whisky, the gig is seen as becoming a full on riot without The Germs even playing a song, when in actuality, The Germs did indeed play a full set that night, as evidenced in the "Caught In My Eye" home video. The date of the show in the movie was also incorrect, being labeled as having taken place on December 23, 1979. In truth, the show took place a day earlier, as presented on a flyer of the event.See more »
Revealing mistakes: After being kicked out of the Orpium for messing up stage equipment, The Germs introduce themselves as Darby Crash and Pat Smear even though at the time The Germs hadn't come up with their stage names yet.See more »
Darby Crash:Everything works in circles. Like sometimes you're doing something, and a year later you're back at the same point. You understand that? So circle one, is what we're doing now, and someday we'll probably do circle two.See more »
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3 out of 5 people found the following review useful.
very mixed bag; watch it for the performances, and one or two things, 2 December 2008
Author: MisterWhiplash from United States

It's simply this: Shane West, as a singer and performer of Germs songs as Darby Crash in What We Do is Secret, works fine. In the 1/4 of the film where the filmmakers turned their attention to the on-stage performances for the film (or one-time album recording), West does very good work, so good in fact one may be tempted to revisit just those aggressive and loud and messy and amazingly crude songs when the film is broadcast on a loop on IFC (you know it will be). And yet, for all of West's feracity in the part as the singer, when he has to *act* as Darby Crash, it's at best halfway believable and at worst very stupid.

There is a resemblance, somewhere, between West- who previously appeared in such films as, yes, A Walk to Remember- and the grimy and death-by-junk singer who had a real intelligence and some crazy ideas. But at the same time West also looks and sounds and sometimes emotes just like what he is: a good but definite pretty boy. Darby Crash was many things, but a pretty boy assuredly not. And because the writing means to try its damndest to put a lot of the emotional weight on Crash, many moments (though not all) with West as Crash fall flat. Thankfully, by the third act, he isn't as irksome, and it almost turns into a halfway decent portrayal of such a true cult figure (cult in the literal sense perhaps).

And yet I can't put all blame on West, or even for the other competent-to-good-to-not-so-good supporting actors playing other members of the Germs. It's the first-time writer/director Rodger Grossman, who hasn't quite figured out at times how to be very confident with the camera, and at best is most daring (in somewhat predictable ways) during the musical sequences and perhaps one shot where a pool is reflected. The rest is a lot of rote work as far as the dramatic stuff goes - when it comes to the "iterviews" done with the people in the band, the groupies, the b-word "manager/girlfriend/mother" of Darby Crash, they fare much better. Indeed if Grossman had been more decisive with how to take the direction of the film (as a documentary done with actors filling in the parts and going through actual things they may or may not have said), it would have worked better either way as gritty bio-pic or bittersweet pseudo-documentary.

I probably sound harder on this movie than the actual vote/rating would say. Maybe it's because as a big fan of The Germs I was slightly more forgiving than other people may be. For the uninitiated it definitely gives a precisely strange and f***-ed up idea of who Crash was and how he drifted into heroin. And as well the uninitiated will find that it stinks. It's for die-hards only.

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