287 out of 438 people found the following comment useful :- With its shameful rating, poor acting, awful writing and mediocre direction, 'AvP' disappoints the fans at every turn, and will probably leave non-fans feeling a little wishy-washy. Fox has taken two of thei, 13 August 2004
Author:
MovieAddict2008 from UK
We don't go to see movies about dueling alien species for deep themes
and intricate character development, but a little sympathy would be
nice. I didn't feel any sympathy for the characters in 'Alien vs.
Predator' because they were all unlikable clichés: The Heroine, The
Hero, The Nerd, The Tomboy, The Gruff Leader, et al. These carbon cut
out characters we've seen in hundreds of other films are all assembled
together by Charles Bishop Weyland (Lance Henriksen) in 'AvP' to
venture into the Antarctic, where they uncover an ancient pyramid
recently discovered by Weyland's multi-million dollar satellites
hovering about in space.
The movie is based, of course, upon the iconic 'Alien' and 'Predator'
films the rights to which are both owned by Fox Studios. The concept
for the project originated with 'Predator 2' (1990), when a cop (played
by Danny Glover) ventured into a Predator spaceship. There, in the
'trophy room,' was the distinct skull of an Alien.
This small in-joke reference (similar to that of Freddy Kruger's claw
appearing in the 'Evil Dead' sequel) sparked a phenomenon of fans
speculating as to the meaning behind the very brief big-screen
insinuation. And due to strong requests, the two fictional species were
finally united together for a string of comic books, videogames, novels
and action figures in the early-'90s. By the year 2002, 'Alien vs.
Predator' had become one of Fox's most profitable off-screen
franchises. So, it was only reasonable to demand a film be made. By
October 2003, production was underway, with sets in Prague being
assembled.
And the film's director, Paul W. S. Anderson, has always excelled at
set design. In 'Event Horizon' he perfectly captured the dark essence
of the 'Alien' series; with 'Resident Evil' he managed to mimic the
Gothic structure of all great zombie movies. But, to be honest, that's
about it. He's never been any good at three other vital elements of
film-making: story, characters and direction. 'Alien vs. Predator' - a
project that took 14 astonishing years to bring to the big screen
(longer than 'Freddy vs. Jason') - doesn't do much to change this.
Yes, his set design here is fantastic (it's no surprise that a great
amount of pre-production work went into creating these enormous
surroundings). The pyramid is buried deep within the wastelands of the
Antarctic (2,000 feet, actually), which provides us with some great
cinematography and stages.
The plot could have used extra work, though. After venturing deep into
the pyramid, the team of scientists soon realizes that the pyramid is
- surprise, surprise! - actually the home of an alien hive. And
furthermore, a pack of teenaged Predators -- on an annual 'manhood'
hunting ritual -- are there, too, and they begin to draw the humans
into their fight, using them as bait.
The movie's cast is comprised of many newcomers and they are all
unimpressive. Sanaa Lathan ('Out of Time'), as Alexa, the heroine, is
rather annoying. Raoul Bova, playing the hero Sebastian, is the most
likable of the characters, but even then, he's simply no Arnold.
Furthermore, the dialogue is completely lame. Sure, 'Predator' had lame
dialogue too ('Knock, knock!') but at least it was funny and delivered
with charisma. This movie unfortunately takes itself way too seriously.
I've heard many people quote lines from 'Predator' over the years ('I
ain't got time to bleed!' being a popular one). I can't imagine anyone
ever *wanting* to quote dialogue from this film.
Even Henriksen seems like he's just in it for the paycheck. (His
character, Charles 'Bishop' Weyland, is the billionaire who according
to 'Alien' mythology -- creates the Bishop androids seen in 'Aliens'
and 'Alien 3,' which are modeled after his own image.) Is it any
coincidence that the only returning cast member from either series of
films happens to be the same actor whose career has devolved into
straight-to-video duds recently?
However, kudos must be handed to "'AvP's' creature effects artists
(mainly Tom Woodruff, Jr.). I had expected lots of CGI, but there are
also many close-ups of the Predators and Aliens played by thankless
actors in suits (and some good IL'-fashioned animatronics). Kevin Peter
Hall (the original Predator) passed away shortly after the release of
the film's sequel, but Anderson has comprised an acceptable team of
replacements (most of the actors being some seven feet tall!).
That, and the set design, and one or two OK action sequences, makes
'AvP' adequate for 'regular' cinema-goers expecting nothing more. If
you're just looking for the average Saturday night blow-'em-up action
flick, you could certainly do worse. But, for any true die-hard fans of
the films, this movie continually disappoints and worst of all, due
to its restrictive PG-13 rating, the fights (which take place all too
often and rapidly become boring) are all over the place. We are not
'allowed' to see anything, which hinders the flow of the film. There
was more violence than I had expected, but still not enough. (For the
record, 'AvP' is the only film from either of the two series to ever
receive an under-R rating.) After negative test screenings, Fox Studios
decided to go against the will of the film's own director and brutally
chop the movie apart so that it could fit into a more marketable age
demographic. (So, the awkward flow in many of the sequences cannot be
entirely contributed to Anderson's directing skills.) The day the
official rating was released, fans across the world united online to
protest it. I can't say I blame them.
I had personally been looking forward to seeing this movie for quite
some time now, being a fan of both 'Alien' (1979) and 'Predator'
(1987). Yet I tried to view 'AvP' unbiased, and judge it on its own
terms, as a movie, and not particularly a sequel. It was a difficult
task, but the truth of the matter is that the film as a stand-alone
project is still not particularly enthralling. With its shameful
rating, poor acting, awful writing and mediocre direction, 'AvP'
disappoints the fans at every turn, and will probably leave non-fans
feeling a little wishy-washy. Fox has taken two of their greatest
franchises and turned them into a joke. 'AvP' is nothing more than
typical action fare which, all considered, isn't much of a compliment
at all.
2.5/5
211 out of 330 people found the following comment useful :- It's been two years, and I still can't forgive the unscrupulousness of this POS., 23 April 2006
Author:
Jimmy Little (littlejimmy835) from Australia
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
Paul W. S. Anderson, the man who has directed previous travesties as
"Mortal Kombat" and "Resident Evil" doesn't fail to live up to his
standards which consist of a horrible script, cheesy "2 kewl 4 skool"
directing styles, weak cast, and every other weakness in a film you can
think of. The only person who rivals his ineptness is none other than
Uwe Boll. He has already ruined other franchises with his previous
films, and now by directing and writing Alien vs. Predator, he has
managed to ruin two movie series at the same time.
The story of this film is bay far the weakest aspect of this derision
of a movie. All the previous Alien/Predator films had simple plots with
good dialogue. Just simply there was a monster trying to kill the good
guys, and they had to survive it. The stories were so uncomplicated yet
incredibly well written that the viewer could not possibly complain
that the story was bad. Alien vs. Predator however attempts to be a
big, complex story with deep meaning to it, but it just comes off as
being stupid and try hard. Paul, a complex story is good, only if you
know how to write that is.
It's about a pyramid that is discovered on Earth in Antarctica. It
turns out that this pyramid was part of the first human civilisation
ever, that the Predators built it for the humans long ago, and in
return, the humans worshiped the Predators as gods and acted as hosts
for the captive alien Queens eggs that are in the pyramid, to make
Aliens for the predators to hunt, not for sport like in the previous
Predator films, but to prove that they are men. When modern day people
go to investigate this pyramid, they become the new hosts for the
Aliens that they Predators are going to hunt.
Not only is this completely unbelievable, (a pyramid in Antarctica?
Come on) but it totally contradicts the previous Alien and Predator
movies. In each Alien movie the point of the film was, "Don't let the
Aliens get to Earth or they will kill everything!" Yet in this movie it
was like, "Oh the Aliens have been on Earth the entire time and it
wasn't really that bad now that we think about it." The previous
Predator films are contradicted as well because the Predators are
portrayed as creatures who are noble warriors, who actually respect
humans and will help them if need be, rather than the ruthless
merciless hunters who killed for sport and would kill a human just out
of spite if he looked at him funny. Having Predators help humans build
societies contradicts their nature, and takes away the mysteriousness
and awesomeness of the Predator character.
But the thing is even as a stand alone film it's a very weak story. It
can be compared to the later Jaws movies where you saw too much of the
shark. Both extraterrestrial species are too in your face and have no
mystery; leaving them just look like guys in rubber suits running
around punching each other. Human characters have so little character
development that often you don't even get to learn their names before
they are killed, and so much more makes you feel like the script was
made from a tipped over box of alphabet cereal.
Here's a perfect example of how bad the dialogue is in AVP.
FemaleTechnician: What is it?
Male Technician: It's a data stream from PS12.
Female Technician: Where is she?
Male Technician: Right above sector 14.
Female Technician: There isn't anything in sector 14.
Male Technician: The is now.
It is obvious in that piece of dialogue that Paul W. S. Anderson
doesn't know anything about mapping or geography. Look moron, there is
no such thing as this elusive "sector 14", things are mapped using
latitude and longitude, bearings and such. Secondly for this Female
Technician to have said on the spot, "There's nothing in sector 14"
implies that she has memorised the presumably thousands of sectors all
over the world and what is in each and every one of them so she can
recall instantly off the top of her head that the isn't anything in
sector 14. This is just one example of how cheesy and full of holes the
very dialogue in Alien vs. Predator can be.
It is clear that a movie this bad was made only for the action, not the
story. The thing is, in this whole move THERE ARE ONLY TWO FIGHT
SCENES! If you are going to make a movie that has no good script which
is only about the action, put in a decent amount of fighting at least!
AND THE PG-13 RATING?! Every other Alien/Predator film released before
this one had and R rating. This film has been dumbed down for kids so
much, that about 95% of the movies deaths or other injuries were off
screen. You would see an Alien just getting near a guy before the
camera would cut away, leaving you thinking, "So not only do we have no
story but we have no gore?! I want my money back!" The line "You are
one ugly mother fer" which is the trademark line of each other
Predator film had the last word of it not filmed to keep the low
rating! Yet earlier in the film they said, "I hope it kills every fing
one of them!". Why did they decide to put the F word in earlier when it
wasn't necessary, yet cut it out later when it was?! If they had of
just shifted the F word to the ugly mother part then there could have
been just as many F words yet still kept the trademark line!
It's a POS movie. The 1000 word limit has stopped me from going on.
152 out of 244 people found the following comment useful :- It amazes me so much on how the film lacks on what the title promises., 12 February 2005
Author:
criehle from United States
Many fans want different things from this film. Many fans, including
myself, were hoping to see lots and lots of action. One Alien &
Predator battle after another. Some fans were hoping for a edge of your
seat, truly terrifying horror movie much like the original Alien. No
matter what you want, hope, or expect from this film you will be
disappointed.
The direction this film takes is a horror route. It tries to be like
the original Alien movie in the sense that the horror has to come more
from the characters and their fear than from the monsters themselves.
Paul Anderson tries to show as little Alien & Predator as possible
without being ridiculous and let the actors & characters sell us the
fear. Now this sounds like a good approach to a film and normally it
would be. Here however it is the reason the films fall flat on its
face. The problem being is that the characters aren't interesting and
their actually paper thin cut outs. And after a short while the
characters become boring and un-interesting and then u begin to long
for either an Alien or a Predator to show up and start killing people.
But as I said, Paul Anderson tries to hide the monsters and show as
little as possible much like the formula Ridley Scott & James Cameron
used for their films. And thats where the film fails. Fans come to see
this movie to see Aliens & Predators fighting. They don't come to see
Sanna Lathan and the other people run around a dark pyramid. Fans
didn't wait 14 years to see paper thin characters run around all over
the place. They go to see Aliens & Predators.
The film should have taken the action route and gives us large amounts
of AVP battles. However Paul Anderson only gives us ONE, count them
One, true fight scene between an ALien & predator. And that fight scene
doesn't occur until half-way through the film and it only lasts 2
minutes. 2 minutes. As a fan I did not wait this long to see a AVP
movie only to have one battle that lasts 2 minutes.
Above I said "true battle" because there is technically another battle.
It is between a Predator, Lex, and an Alien Queen. Much like the first
AVP battle it is disappointingly short and 90% of the battle focuses on
lex fighting the queen than it does focus on the Predator. After a
while you begin to think the title "Alien vs. Predator" is
inappropriate and instead should be called "The Adventures of Lex".
Paul Andersons direction leaves out the two title characters.
The idea of hiding your monsters appearance till half way through the
film and rely more on your characters is a formula that has worked in
the past. It even potentially could have worked here but in order for
that to happen you need to do one thing. Make the characters more
interesting. If your characters are paper thin then the audience aren't
going to care about them and then they quickly become bored. The film
should have done is focus less on characters and more on the monsters.
It amazes me so much on how the film lacks on what the title promises.
100 out of 144 people found the following comment useful :- Alien and Predator for Barney's primary audience..., 12 December 2004
Author:
mentalcritic from Southern Hemisphere
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
If you give a toss about the story, stop reading. But believe me, this
comment couldn't possibly ruin the film for you any more than Fox has.
Spare a thought for Paul Anderson as he struggles to make a film that
hasn't been neutered by the MPAA or a cowardly studio. Once Paul
Verhoeven left America to resume his stellar work in Europe, I guess
the MPAA had to have someone to pound upon. After moronic parents who
took their single-digit-age children to see Resident Evil complained, I
guess it was inevitable that future Anderson projects face an even
bigger butcher's knife.
But I am getting ahead of myself here. There are two things that made
the Alien and Predator franchises work. The first was human
interaction. In essence, the films were about humans trying to screw
each other over for power, with the titular enemy there to deliver the
consequences of not working together. A non-subtle and somewhat shallow
social statement, in other words. Then there's the gore factor. Once
the human drama is set up, who cannot help but feel for the survivors
as a marine's face is melted by Alien blood, or when a train full of
commuters are torn to pieces by a Predator who doesn't fully understand
what is going on around him?
AVP tries to set up the former factor with Lance Henriksen's character
anxious to find the strange artefact under the polar cap before he
dies. Unfortunately, where Aliens in particular excelled was that it
managed to give every character a third dimension. Here, only
Henriksen's character gets such effort. So every act of violence or
mayhem is given a feeling of absolutely no consequence. It's almost
like a video game.
Paul Anderson is on record as saying that he made the film with every
intention of it being screened with the MPAA's R rating. Apparently,
Fox, fearing it will alienate children, decided otherwise. Never mind
that the audience which kept both franchises in the black are now
either in their mid-twenties or middle-aged. Forget creativity or
making something that people might enjoy. The lowest common denominator
rules here. Those parents who complained when the studio didn't
accommodate them because they were too stupid to realize a film based
on a video game which is in turn based on Night Of The Living Dead
might not be a good babysitter, I hope you are proud of yourselves.
Meanwhile, if any studio wants to let Anderson make a film without
tying his hands over his audience's eyes, I will gladly pay to see it
multiple times. Trust me, you will make more money this way once
backlash is accounted for.
AVP also marks the first Anderson film I have seen in which the
shaky-cam technique is used. Here, they don't even bother to try and
make their excuse that it puts the audience more into the action seem
plausible. Every shaky-cam frame might as well have the phrase "we are
shaking this camera to preserve our PG-13 rating" stamped across it in
big, bold letters.
You may have noticed that I haven't said anything about the actual
characters yet, apart from mentioning Lance Henriksen by his own name
rather than that of the character. There is a reason for this. If a
group of film characters became any more generic, they could all be
played by the same actor. The Aliens and Predators do not fare any
better. Seriously, why on Earth didn't they just base the script upon
the first comic book series? These comic books showed more for the
audience to get interested in with one issue than this film shows in
its entire running length.
The story also shows every conceivable sign of not being thought
through. The humans discover an alien temple a couple of thousand feet
below the surface of a polar cap. Great, but wouldn't that mean it is
basically submerged in the ocean? So when the intrepid humans decide to
go and check it out, the Predators oblige them by firing a beam from
Earth's orbit into said polar cap, tunneling the thousands of feet
needed to find the entrance. I guess the budget cuts at NASA meant that
nobody could notice the massive hulking ship above the Earth. I'm also
guessing that Alien blood and armour made from Alien parts gives one
special powers, such as the ability to stand below a spacecraft as it
takes off without being burned by the thrust. Or did they just not see
Danny Glover's race to get away from the Predators' ship at the end of
Predator 2?
In short, this film insults the fans of both franchises, sci-fi action
fans in general, as well as the basic principle of adults being able to
watch and hear what they choose to. I strongly urge the viewing,
DVD-buying public to give this film the butt, lest more be made in this
kindergarten-oriented fashion. Fox, you ought to be ashamed of
yourselves.
135 out of 224 people found the following comment useful :- Try filming a decent movie to go with the marketing..., 17 August 2004
Author:
sixtwentysix from Denver, CO
This movie is the perfect epitome of Hollywood taking something beloved,
running it straight to hell (Predator 2, Alien 4) and then taking it even
one step further by completely disjointing the stories and continuity,
*ahem* alienating the fans and basically wasting everyone's time while
marring the original (Caddyshack 2 anyone??) all in the name of the mighty
dollar bill. Seeing this movie only eggs them on people! This is a movie
that you immediately wish you could UNWATCH and erase from your memory
banks.
I would be highly surprised if more time went into the script of this film
than the actual marketing. I'm not even going to complain about the PG-13
rating because it is what it is.... just a bad movie.
Horrible acting. Pointless plodding sub-plots. Decent action sequences and a
precious few cool moments in what should have been a fan-boy's wet dream.
The lead in this movie is a demographic friendly woman with barely enough
acting ability to make a shampoo ad believable. Any mildly entertaining
characters were immediately destroyed in the first twenty minutes of the
film with zero payout. Even the marquee monsters end up looking bored as the
audience is lead along in a by numbers popcorn sales ploy.
59 out of 82 people found the following comment useful :- Complete and utter failure., 31 August 2004
Author:
Manthorpe from Austin, TX
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
AVP fails on several levels. It completely fails as an addition to both
series, and it fails as a film itself. When I heard Anderson was in
charge of this project, I knew that it couldn't be good news .and then
when the PG-13 rating came along, my fears were multiplied and
confirmed. A huge fan of both series, I wanted more than anything to
like this film and for it to at least be average. After all, I cannot
think of many film ideas that have had more potential. This very well
could have been the best action and sci-fi film ever created, only if
it had a decent director. I actually gave Anderson a chance, a 10%
chance of making an average film, and a 0% chance of making it into
what it deserved and had the potential to be. Those who gave him more
should be embarrassed. I'm embarrassed that I paid to see it, however,
I have a unique way of justifying it. Since I paid for it, the only way
I can redeem myself is to rip this excuse for a film apart in this
review, which will be long, and tell everyone I know how much this film
completely sucks and how the originals and all copies should be burned.
MASSIVE spoilers:
First off, it fails right off for having a weak and unbelievable story,
all thanks to the brilliantly moronic Anderson. Full of holes. An
ancient pyramid, reminiscent of the Cube, 2000 feet below the ice in
Antarctica? Riiiiiight. Predators have hunted humans for years, so
let's send some adolescent ones to go after the fiercest species in the
universe, and hey, let's only have them do it every 100
years .Riiiight. A chained up Queen Alien that's also been frozen and
imprisoned by some wimpy ass Mongoloid Predators that get schooled like
little b*tches? Riiiiight. A Predator and a woman make friends and the
Predator even makes a shield and spear for her out of an Alien carcass?
Oh-f-ing-KAY! I'll stop, but it doesn't take a film professor to see
where this is going. They might as well have put an Alien Predator sex
scene in it. So much potential and this was what Anderson shat out.
Anyone with even a lick of respect for either franchise can see how
utterly stupid this film was even before any production was set forth.
It gets even worse. Why in the hell would you claim to be a fan of both
franchises and then go against many things we know about both creatures
and make yourself look like a fool? Easy, Anderson is a fool.
Face-huggers now fall off within minutes of attachment, the gestation
period for the chest-bursters is now also a few minutes .and, to top it
all off their blood is only sporadically acidic. How's that for
consistency? Want more? Why in the hell would Predators set up an
entire human civilization to perpetuate their ritual Alien hunts and
bring weapons with them that melt when they come in contact with Alien
blood? If these things have been hunting Aliens for hundreds of years,
you'd think they'd be smarter than that.
And while we're at it, let's change the way the Predators and Aliens
look. The Preds in this film look like they have down syndrome with
their masks off. The fact that they look like linebackers doesn't help
either. The original in 1987 looked infinitely better and more
realistic, not like some lumbering oaf in a rubber suit. And just to
make them fiercer, as if it were needed, let's make the Aliens so that
they can open their mouths as wide as a Muppet, particularly Guy
Smiley, can. This is the material we waited 14 years for?! I actually
felt sorry for the Predators in this movie, they're just sad. On top of
looking like they rode in on the short ship, they get their asses
KICKED. Colonial Marines did better against a HIVE of Aliens than the
Preds did against a few running around .and these were friggin'
Predators!!! I thought the Predators hunted the ALIENS? These Preds
were sissies, and were about as stealthy as a rhino giving birth during
an electrical storm. Utterly ridiculous.
The cinematography used is entirely out of place. The quick-cut editing
used during the fight scenes is some of the worst I've seen to date.
You can't see anything that's going on and you might as well not even
see the fights at all. That's exactly what I was looking forward to
after 14 years, especially in a film with 'Vs.' in the title. While
some of this may be possibly attributed to the studio axing it to make
it PG-13, the shots that are left are far too close to the action,
leading me to believe that this may have not been the studio's fault as
some Anderson supporters claim. It's truly confusing and annoying.
Straight out of The Blair Witch Project. And let's not forget to throw
some Matrix bullet time into a face-hugger sequence, we'd be lost
without that. And for a film that is obviously meant to be
action-packed, it certainly isn't. Half of its measly runtime is spent
setting up this ridiculous scenario. Where is the damn epic showdown?!
This was a Versus movie right?
End of 'spoilers'.
And to all of you people defending this film, what in the hell are you
thinking? Just because you're a fan of both franchises doesn't mean you
have to swallow this and embarrass yourself on these pages. We deserved
more. If you are OK with this film and do find it enjoyable, you are
completely void of any taste in film. I simply do not understand your
mediocrity.
For having more potential than almost any film in the last decade and
releasing this stank pickle, I give AVP 1/10. R.I.P. Alien and
Predator.
135 out of 236 people found the following comment useful :- Paradoxial, 10 September 2004
Author:
jaywriterXIII from USA
Most people going into this film want to see one thing: Aliens and
Predators rip into each other. I suspect a great many geeks and lame
individuals inhabiting message boards of every corner of the internet
will complain that this film spends too much time with the humans when
the name of the film is 'Alien versus Predator' and they couldn't care
about the humans, and another sect will whine about how shallow the
film is to jump right to the big fight as soon as it can possibly set
it up.
The nice thing about the Freddy vs Jason premise is the fact that most
of the Elm Street films and none of the Friday the 13th films had any
substance to them, so throwing the two juggernauts into a battle rumble
with each other with a side of useless characters and uninspired plot
shouldn't have phased anyone but the most deluded of fans. I really
liked FvsJ more so than all but the Craven-driven Elm Streets and the
all the F13s.
Alien vs Predator is quite a bit different since I love Ridley Scott's
Alien and James Cameron's Aliens, and though I don't hold Predator 1 &
2 on the same level, I'm still pretty fond of the original Predator
film (been too long since I've seen Predator 2). The Alien series (and
to a much lesser extent, the Predator series too) has always been about
depth . . . so to just throw the two monsters at each other and let
them rip into each other really does not do them any justice and strips
away what makes their films so good to begin with.
So . . . AVP takes a middle path. It attempts to build up the
characters to an extent, it attempts to give a valid reason for both
the Aliens and Predators to be in the same location, and it attempts to
do it as quickly as it can. How well does it succeed? I found myself
wishing it would either slow down more or pick up the pace.
I'm very pleased to see the stylish Paul Anderson lead this tangled and
difficult project. His nods to the original films, in jokes, and slower
paced setup were much appreciated from me. Ninety minutes of guys in
rubber suits cut with CG monsters fighting constantly just will not cut
it. I felt Anderson rushed the setup (or the studio rushed him); but
part of me did grow bored of the characters rather quickly, and I did
want to see the Alien and Predators get together sooner than they did.
The lingering time between bouts did create more tension and
anticipation for the coming fights, which I admired, and when the
beasts finally sank claws and teeth into one another I found myself
more or less satisfied. At first I felt somewhat let down by how
seemingly easily a few Predators went down; however, then I remembered
these things were fighting Aliens with bare fists and blades when Space
Marines were getting slaughtered with state of the art artillery.
A classless director would have started with a bang, ended with a bang,
and had a boring parade of bangs. When I want meaningless, yet
entertaining, bangs I buy firecrackers and save myself both time and
money. Paul Anderson strived for something more, and pretty much came
through. While I did like the film and the idea of Aliens and Predators
fighting it out, I couldn't help but compare it to the superior films
that inspired it. As fun as AVP is, and as much as I like Paul Anderson
. . . he is not Ridley Scott and this is not Alien.
149 out of 268 people found the following comment useful :- An utter work of genius, 2 July 2006
Author:
eboxtree
Many people castigate Paul Anderson for destroying both the Alien and
Predator franchises. I must say that they have no clue and the
director/writer is a true genius for having pulled this movie off.
Notice that I did'nt say that this movie itself was great but it was a
work of genius. So what is the movie like? It is by far one of the
worst and most disgusting pieces of crap that will kill your interest
in both the Alien and predator. But don't you get it? That's the point.
Paul Anderson obviously hates the fans of the franchises and has been
hating them for a while now. He hates them beyond anything and they
must be made to pay dearly and suffer. So in a brilliant plan, he
manages to fraud the fools at Fox to give him the project. He did that
despite the fact that his previous movies were laughable. Now isn't
that just genius? Anderson has made a joke out of every single thing
that made the concepts stand out. Your innocent curiosity will make you
sit through his parody in hopes of some big twist but it never happens.
Scene after Scene is one joke after another. How can anyone possibly
imagine a bullet-time mode for an Alien attack? All this has been done
very intentionally and nobody realises that. Once you've watched this
movie, there's nothing you can do about it. You've lost and Anderson
has won. His revenge on fans is complete. Hes also left room for a
sequel by including a predalien birth at the end, further putting a big
hole in future stories. He makes a ton of money too. Genius.
Oh, I should have said EVIL genius.
UNLESS YOU WANT YOUR INTEREST IN ALIENS AND PREDATORS KILLED OFF, DO
NOT WATCH THIS MOVIE. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
79 out of 131 people found the following comment useful :- well, 2 July 2006
Author:
rudagar666 from United Kingdom
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well mainly that out of the 3 predators, two of them are killed easily,
i mean watching them fight that one alien was like watching a 2 old
child fight a lion. however the one "main" predator who is the biggest
wuss ever to come from the predator home world because he has a soft
spot for humans, well human, kills dozens with relative ease also, in
aliens the acid burns through a lot of METAL floors, however this
woman's face has developed the ability to with stand this potent acid?
i therefore deduce that the woman is in fact a terminator, sent back in
time for a completely irrelevant mission....at least my explanation
makes more sense then the movie!
121 out of 221 people found the following comment useful :- Bad, really bad, 5 June 2006
Author:
Andrade David from Brazil
Okay, I'll confess that the only reason I registered at this site is to
tell people how bad this movie really is.
AVP is embarrassing, the whole thing gives you the impression of an
empty commercial exploitation on the well-known monsters images.
Anyone who comes to this kinda of review sites and gives this movie a
10 out of 10 is either a Fox films employee or related to the film crew
somehow. Don't fall for it.
The whole idea of teen Predators hunting Aliens to become "real
warriors" is idiotic. How can you compare a high tech civilization that
is able to travel space to Indians? Okay, maybe It is possible they
would have the same kind of ritual, after all why can't highly
developed species have their rituals...
I was intrigued about how the first time a Predator blew itself up on
top of the Pyramid it did not damage the construction at all.... Of
course, the second time that another Predator did that, the whole thing
fell apart.
It is laughable the friendship among the hero-chick and the teen
Predator. I could almost see them holding hands and running away in the
end of the movie. It turns out that the Predator developed feelings for
her. I wonder why the Predators first came down from the sky shooting
the hell out of the other guys who stayed in the abandoned whailing
facility, no questions asked. Still wondering...
I didn't like the "new" Alien life cycle. The face-hugger burst out as
an alien in 40 seconds. This is truly ridiculous. Anderson did not even
take the time to watch the original Alien movie.
On top of that, the cast is composed by a bunch obscure nobodies in
shallow roles. Even if they were any good, the lines they received
would just have made them look as bad as they did.
As an Alien and Predator fan I felt I was disrespected. If you are too,
you will know what I am talking about
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With its shameful rating, poor acting, awful writing and mediocre direction, 'AvP' disappoints the fans at every turn, and will probably leave non-fans feeling a little wishy-washy. Fox has taken two of thei, 13 August 2004
Author: MovieAddict2008 from UK
We don't go to see movies about dueling alien species for deep themes and intricate character development, but a little sympathy would be nice. I didn't feel any sympathy for the characters in 'Alien vs. Predator' because they were all unlikable clichés: The Heroine, The Hero, The Nerd, The Tomboy, The Gruff Leader, et al. These carbon cut out characters we've seen in hundreds of other films are all assembled together by Charles Bishop Weyland (Lance Henriksen) in 'AvP' to venture into the Antarctic, where they uncover an ancient pyramid recently discovered by Weyland's multi-million dollar satellites hovering about in space.
The movie is based, of course, upon the iconic 'Alien' and 'Predator' films the rights to which are both owned by Fox Studios. The concept for the project originated with 'Predator 2' (1990), when a cop (played by Danny Glover) ventured into a Predator spaceship. There, in the 'trophy room,' was the distinct skull of an Alien.
This small in-joke reference (similar to that of Freddy Kruger's claw appearing in the 'Evil Dead' sequel) sparked a phenomenon of fans speculating as to the meaning behind the very brief big-screen insinuation. And due to strong requests, the two fictional species were finally united together for a string of comic books, videogames, novels and action figures in the early-'90s. By the year 2002, 'Alien vs. Predator' had become one of Fox's most profitable off-screen franchises. So, it was only reasonable to demand a film be made. By October 2003, production was underway, with sets in Prague being assembled.
And the film's director, Paul W. S. Anderson, has always excelled at set design. In 'Event Horizon' he perfectly captured the dark essence of the 'Alien' series; with 'Resident Evil' he managed to mimic the Gothic structure of all great zombie movies. But, to be honest, that's about it. He's never been any good at three other vital elements of film-making: story, characters and direction. 'Alien vs. Predator' - a project that took 14 astonishing years to bring to the big screen (longer than 'Freddy vs. Jason') - doesn't do much to change this.
Yes, his set design here is fantastic (it's no surprise that a great amount of pre-production work went into creating these enormous surroundings). The pyramid is buried deep within the wastelands of the Antarctic (2,000 feet, actually), which provides us with some great cinematography and stages.
The plot could have used extra work, though. After venturing deep into the pyramid, the team of scientists soon realizes that the pyramid is - surprise, surprise! - actually the home of an alien hive. And furthermore, a pack of teenaged Predators -- on an annual 'manhood' hunting ritual -- are there, too, and they begin to draw the humans into their fight, using them as bait.
The movie's cast is comprised of many newcomers and they are all unimpressive. Sanaa Lathan ('Out of Time'), as Alexa, the heroine, is rather annoying. Raoul Bova, playing the hero Sebastian, is the most likable of the characters, but even then, he's simply no Arnold.
Furthermore, the dialogue is completely lame. Sure, 'Predator' had lame dialogue too ('Knock, knock!') but at least it was funny and delivered with charisma. This movie unfortunately takes itself way too seriously. I've heard many people quote lines from 'Predator' over the years ('I ain't got time to bleed!' being a popular one). I can't imagine anyone ever *wanting* to quote dialogue from this film.
Even Henriksen seems like he's just in it for the paycheck. (His character, Charles 'Bishop' Weyland, is the billionaire who according to 'Alien' mythology -- creates the Bishop androids seen in 'Aliens' and 'Alien 3,' which are modeled after his own image.) Is it any coincidence that the only returning cast member from either series of films happens to be the same actor whose career has devolved into straight-to-video duds recently?
However, kudos must be handed to "'AvP's' creature effects artists (mainly Tom Woodruff, Jr.). I had expected lots of CGI, but there are also many close-ups of the Predators and Aliens played by thankless actors in suits (and some good IL'-fashioned animatronics). Kevin Peter Hall (the original Predator) passed away shortly after the release of the film's sequel, but Anderson has comprised an acceptable team of replacements (most of the actors being some seven feet tall!).
That, and the set design, and one or two OK action sequences, makes 'AvP' adequate for 'regular' cinema-goers expecting nothing more. If you're just looking for the average Saturday night blow-'em-up action flick, you could certainly do worse. But, for any true die-hard fans of the films, this movie continually disappoints and worst of all, due to its restrictive PG-13 rating, the fights (which take place all too often and rapidly become boring) are all over the place. We are not 'allowed' to see anything, which hinders the flow of the film. There was more violence than I had expected, but still not enough. (For the record, 'AvP' is the only film from either of the two series to ever receive an under-R rating.) After negative test screenings, Fox Studios decided to go against the will of the film's own director and brutally chop the movie apart so that it could fit into a more marketable age demographic. (So, the awkward flow in many of the sequences cannot be entirely contributed to Anderson's directing skills.) The day the official rating was released, fans across the world united online to protest it. I can't say I blame them.
I had personally been looking forward to seeing this movie for quite some time now, being a fan of both 'Alien' (1979) and 'Predator' (1987). Yet I tried to view 'AvP' unbiased, and judge it on its own terms, as a movie, and not particularly a sequel. It was a difficult task, but the truth of the matter is that the film as a stand-alone project is still not particularly enthralling. With its shameful rating, poor acting, awful writing and mediocre direction, 'AvP' disappoints the fans at every turn, and will probably leave non-fans feeling a little wishy-washy. Fox has taken two of their greatest franchises and turned them into a joke. 'AvP' is nothing more than typical action fare which, all considered, isn't much of a compliment at all.
2.5/5
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It's been two years, and I still can't forgive the unscrupulousness of this POS., 23 April 2006
Author: Jimmy Little (littlejimmy835) from Australia
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Paul W. S. Anderson, the man who has directed previous travesties as "Mortal Kombat" and "Resident Evil" doesn't fail to live up to his standards which consist of a horrible script, cheesy "2 kewl 4 skool" directing styles, weak cast, and every other weakness in a film you can think of. The only person who rivals his ineptness is none other than Uwe Boll. He has already ruined other franchises with his previous films, and now by directing and writing Alien vs. Predator, he has managed to ruin two movie series at the same time.
The story of this film is bay far the weakest aspect of this derision of a movie. All the previous Alien/Predator films had simple plots with good dialogue. Just simply there was a monster trying to kill the good guys, and they had to survive it. The stories were so uncomplicated yet incredibly well written that the viewer could not possibly complain that the story was bad. Alien vs. Predator however attempts to be a big, complex story with deep meaning to it, but it just comes off as being stupid and try hard. Paul, a complex story is good, only if you know how to write that is.
It's about a pyramid that is discovered on Earth in Antarctica. It turns out that this pyramid was part of the first human civilisation ever, that the Predators built it for the humans long ago, and in return, the humans worshiped the Predators as gods and acted as hosts for the captive alien Queens eggs that are in the pyramid, to make Aliens for the predators to hunt, not for sport like in the previous Predator films, but to prove that they are men. When modern day people go to investigate this pyramid, they become the new hosts for the Aliens that they Predators are going to hunt.
Not only is this completely unbelievable, (a pyramid in Antarctica? Come on) but it totally contradicts the previous Alien and Predator movies. In each Alien movie the point of the film was, "Don't let the Aliens get to Earth or they will kill everything!" Yet in this movie it was like, "Oh the Aliens have been on Earth the entire time and it wasn't really that bad now that we think about it." The previous Predator films are contradicted as well because the Predators are portrayed as creatures who are noble warriors, who actually respect humans and will help them if need be, rather than the ruthless merciless hunters who killed for sport and would kill a human just out of spite if he looked at him funny. Having Predators help humans build societies contradicts their nature, and takes away the mysteriousness and awesomeness of the Predator character.
But the thing is even as a stand alone film it's a very weak story. It can be compared to the later Jaws movies where you saw too much of the shark. Both extraterrestrial species are too in your face and have no mystery; leaving them just look like guys in rubber suits running around punching each other. Human characters have so little character development that often you don't even get to learn their names before they are killed, and so much more makes you feel like the script was made from a tipped over box of alphabet cereal.
Here's a perfect example of how bad the dialogue is in AVP.
FemaleTechnician: What is it?
Male Technician: It's a data stream from PS12.
Female Technician: Where is she?
Male Technician: Right above sector 14.
Female Technician: There isn't anything in sector 14.
Male Technician: The is now.
It is obvious in that piece of dialogue that Paul W. S. Anderson doesn't know anything about mapping or geography. Look moron, there is no such thing as this elusive "sector 14", things are mapped using latitude and longitude, bearings and such. Secondly for this Female Technician to have said on the spot, "There's nothing in sector 14" implies that she has memorised the presumably thousands of sectors all over the world and what is in each and every one of them so she can recall instantly off the top of her head that the isn't anything in sector 14. This is just one example of how cheesy and full of holes the very dialogue in Alien vs. Predator can be.
It is clear that a movie this bad was made only for the action, not the story. The thing is, in this whole move THERE ARE ONLY TWO FIGHT SCENES! If you are going to make a movie that has no good script which is only about the action, put in a decent amount of fighting at least!
AND THE PG-13 RATING?! Every other Alien/Predator film released before this one had and R rating. This film has been dumbed down for kids so much, that about 95% of the movies deaths or other injuries were off screen. You would see an Alien just getting near a guy before the camera would cut away, leaving you thinking, "So not only do we have no story but we have no gore?! I want my money back!" The line "You are one ugly mother fer" which is the trademark line of each other Predator film had the last word of it not filmed to keep the low rating! Yet earlier in the film they said, "I hope it kills every fing one of them!". Why did they decide to put the F word in earlier when it wasn't necessary, yet cut it out later when it was?! If they had of just shifted the F word to the ugly mother part then there could have been just as many F words yet still kept the trademark line!
It's a POS movie. The 1000 word limit has stopped me from going on.
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It amazes me so much on how the film lacks on what the title promises., 12 February 2005
Author: criehle from United States
Many fans want different things from this film. Many fans, including myself, were hoping to see lots and lots of action. One Alien & Predator battle after another. Some fans were hoping for a edge of your seat, truly terrifying horror movie much like the original Alien. No matter what you want, hope, or expect from this film you will be disappointed.
The direction this film takes is a horror route. It tries to be like the original Alien movie in the sense that the horror has to come more from the characters and their fear than from the monsters themselves. Paul Anderson tries to show as little Alien & Predator as possible without being ridiculous and let the actors & characters sell us the fear. Now this sounds like a good approach to a film and normally it would be. Here however it is the reason the films fall flat on its face. The problem being is that the characters aren't interesting and their actually paper thin cut outs. And after a short while the characters become boring and un-interesting and then u begin to long for either an Alien or a Predator to show up and start killing people.
But as I said, Paul Anderson tries to hide the monsters and show as little as possible much like the formula Ridley Scott & James Cameron used for their films. And thats where the film fails. Fans come to see this movie to see Aliens & Predators fighting. They don't come to see Sanna Lathan and the other people run around a dark pyramid. Fans didn't wait 14 years to see paper thin characters run around all over the place. They go to see Aliens & Predators.
The film should have taken the action route and gives us large amounts of AVP battles. However Paul Anderson only gives us ONE, count them One, true fight scene between an ALien & predator. And that fight scene doesn't occur until half-way through the film and it only lasts 2 minutes. 2 minutes. As a fan I did not wait this long to see a AVP movie only to have one battle that lasts 2 minutes.
Above I said "true battle" because there is technically another battle. It is between a Predator, Lex, and an Alien Queen. Much like the first AVP battle it is disappointingly short and 90% of the battle focuses on lex fighting the queen than it does focus on the Predator. After a while you begin to think the title "Alien vs. Predator" is inappropriate and instead should be called "The Adventures of Lex". Paul Andersons direction leaves out the two title characters.
The idea of hiding your monsters appearance till half way through the film and rely more on your characters is a formula that has worked in the past. It even potentially could have worked here but in order for that to happen you need to do one thing. Make the characters more interesting. If your characters are paper thin then the audience aren't going to care about them and then they quickly become bored. The film should have done is focus less on characters and more on the monsters. It amazes me so much on how the film lacks on what the title promises.
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Alien and Predator for Barney's primary audience..., 12 December 2004
Author: mentalcritic from Southern Hemisphere
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If you give a toss about the story, stop reading. But believe me, this comment couldn't possibly ruin the film for you any more than Fox has. Spare a thought for Paul Anderson as he struggles to make a film that hasn't been neutered by the MPAA or a cowardly studio. Once Paul Verhoeven left America to resume his stellar work in Europe, I guess the MPAA had to have someone to pound upon. After moronic parents who took their single-digit-age children to see Resident Evil complained, I guess it was inevitable that future Anderson projects face an even bigger butcher's knife.
But I am getting ahead of myself here. There are two things that made the Alien and Predator franchises work. The first was human interaction. In essence, the films were about humans trying to screw each other over for power, with the titular enemy there to deliver the consequences of not working together. A non-subtle and somewhat shallow social statement, in other words. Then there's the gore factor. Once the human drama is set up, who cannot help but feel for the survivors as a marine's face is melted by Alien blood, or when a train full of commuters are torn to pieces by a Predator who doesn't fully understand what is going on around him?
AVP tries to set up the former factor with Lance Henriksen's character anxious to find the strange artefact under the polar cap before he dies. Unfortunately, where Aliens in particular excelled was that it managed to give every character a third dimension. Here, only Henriksen's character gets such effort. So every act of violence or mayhem is given a feeling of absolutely no consequence. It's almost like a video game.
Paul Anderson is on record as saying that he made the film with every intention of it being screened with the MPAA's R rating. Apparently, Fox, fearing it will alienate children, decided otherwise. Never mind that the audience which kept both franchises in the black are now either in their mid-twenties or middle-aged. Forget creativity or making something that people might enjoy. The lowest common denominator rules here. Those parents who complained when the studio didn't accommodate them because they were too stupid to realize a film based on a video game which is in turn based on Night Of The Living Dead might not be a good babysitter, I hope you are proud of yourselves. Meanwhile, if any studio wants to let Anderson make a film without tying his hands over his audience's eyes, I will gladly pay to see it multiple times. Trust me, you will make more money this way once backlash is accounted for.
AVP also marks the first Anderson film I have seen in which the shaky-cam technique is used. Here, they don't even bother to try and make their excuse that it puts the audience more into the action seem plausible. Every shaky-cam frame might as well have the phrase "we are shaking this camera to preserve our PG-13 rating" stamped across it in big, bold letters.
You may have noticed that I haven't said anything about the actual characters yet, apart from mentioning Lance Henriksen by his own name rather than that of the character. There is a reason for this. If a group of film characters became any more generic, they could all be played by the same actor. The Aliens and Predators do not fare any better. Seriously, why on Earth didn't they just base the script upon the first comic book series? These comic books showed more for the audience to get interested in with one issue than this film shows in its entire running length.
The story also shows every conceivable sign of not being thought through. The humans discover an alien temple a couple of thousand feet below the surface of a polar cap. Great, but wouldn't that mean it is basically submerged in the ocean? So when the intrepid humans decide to go and check it out, the Predators oblige them by firing a beam from Earth's orbit into said polar cap, tunneling the thousands of feet needed to find the entrance. I guess the budget cuts at NASA meant that nobody could notice the massive hulking ship above the Earth. I'm also guessing that Alien blood and armour made from Alien parts gives one special powers, such as the ability to stand below a spacecraft as it takes off without being burned by the thrust. Or did they just not see Danny Glover's race to get away from the Predators' ship at the end of Predator 2?
In short, this film insults the fans of both franchises, sci-fi action fans in general, as well as the basic principle of adults being able to watch and hear what they choose to. I strongly urge the viewing, DVD-buying public to give this film the butt, lest more be made in this kindergarten-oriented fashion. Fox, you ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
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Try filming a decent movie to go with the marketing..., 17 August 2004
Author: sixtwentysix from Denver, CO
This movie is the perfect epitome of Hollywood taking something beloved, running it straight to hell (Predator 2, Alien 4) and then taking it even one step further by completely disjointing the stories and continuity, *ahem* alienating the fans and basically wasting everyone's time while marring the original (Caddyshack 2 anyone??) all in the name of the mighty dollar bill. Seeing this movie only eggs them on people! This is a movie that you immediately wish you could UNWATCH and erase from your memory banks.
I would be highly surprised if more time went into the script of this film than the actual marketing. I'm not even going to complain about the PG-13 rating because it is what it is.... just a bad movie.
Horrible acting. Pointless plodding sub-plots. Decent action sequences and a precious few cool moments in what should have been a fan-boy's wet dream. The lead in this movie is a demographic friendly woman with barely enough acting ability to make a shampoo ad believable. Any mildly entertaining characters were immediately destroyed in the first twenty minutes of the film with zero payout. Even the marquee monsters end up looking bored as the audience is lead along in a by numbers popcorn sales ploy.
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Complete and utter failure., 31 August 2004
Author: Manthorpe from Austin, TX
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AVP fails on several levels. It completely fails as an addition to both series, and it fails as a film itself. When I heard Anderson was in charge of this project, I knew that it couldn't be good news .and then when the PG-13 rating came along, my fears were multiplied and confirmed. A huge fan of both series, I wanted more than anything to like this film and for it to at least be average. After all, I cannot think of many film ideas that have had more potential. This very well could have been the best action and sci-fi film ever created, only if it had a decent director. I actually gave Anderson a chance, a 10% chance of making an average film, and a 0% chance of making it into what it deserved and had the potential to be. Those who gave him more should be embarrassed. I'm embarrassed that I paid to see it, however, I have a unique way of justifying it. Since I paid for it, the only way I can redeem myself is to rip this excuse for a film apart in this review, which will be long, and tell everyone I know how much this film completely sucks and how the originals and all copies should be burned.
MASSIVE spoilers:
First off, it fails right off for having a weak and unbelievable story, all thanks to the brilliantly moronic Anderson. Full of holes. An ancient pyramid, reminiscent of the Cube, 2000 feet below the ice in Antarctica? Riiiiiight. Predators have hunted humans for years, so let's send some adolescent ones to go after the fiercest species in the universe, and hey, let's only have them do it every 100 years .Riiiight. A chained up Queen Alien that's also been frozen and imprisoned by some wimpy ass Mongoloid Predators that get schooled like little b*tches? Riiiiight. A Predator and a woman make friends and the Predator even makes a shield and spear for her out of an Alien carcass? Oh-f-ing-KAY! I'll stop, but it doesn't take a film professor to see where this is going. They might as well have put an Alien Predator sex scene in it. So much potential and this was what Anderson shat out.
Anyone with even a lick of respect for either franchise can see how utterly stupid this film was even before any production was set forth. It gets even worse. Why in the hell would you claim to be a fan of both franchises and then go against many things we know about both creatures and make yourself look like a fool? Easy, Anderson is a fool. Face-huggers now fall off within minutes of attachment, the gestation period for the chest-bursters is now also a few minutes .and, to top it all off their blood is only sporadically acidic. How's that for consistency? Want more? Why in the hell would Predators set up an entire human civilization to perpetuate their ritual Alien hunts and bring weapons with them that melt when they come in contact with Alien blood? If these things have been hunting Aliens for hundreds of years, you'd think they'd be smarter than that.
And while we're at it, let's change the way the Predators and Aliens look. The Preds in this film look like they have down syndrome with their masks off. The fact that they look like linebackers doesn't help either. The original in 1987 looked infinitely better and more realistic, not like some lumbering oaf in a rubber suit. And just to make them fiercer, as if it were needed, let's make the Aliens so that they can open their mouths as wide as a Muppet, particularly Guy Smiley, can. This is the material we waited 14 years for?! I actually felt sorry for the Predators in this movie, they're just sad. On top of looking like they rode in on the short ship, they get their asses KICKED. Colonial Marines did better against a HIVE of Aliens than the Preds did against a few running around .and these were friggin' Predators!!! I thought the Predators hunted the ALIENS? These Preds were sissies, and were about as stealthy as a rhino giving birth during an electrical storm. Utterly ridiculous.
The cinematography used is entirely out of place. The quick-cut editing used during the fight scenes is some of the worst I've seen to date. You can't see anything that's going on and you might as well not even see the fights at all. That's exactly what I was looking forward to after 14 years, especially in a film with 'Vs.' in the title. While some of this may be possibly attributed to the studio axing it to make it PG-13, the shots that are left are far too close to the action, leading me to believe that this may have not been the studio's fault as some Anderson supporters claim. It's truly confusing and annoying. Straight out of The Blair Witch Project. And let's not forget to throw some Matrix bullet time into a face-hugger sequence, we'd be lost without that. And for a film that is obviously meant to be action-packed, it certainly isn't. Half of its measly runtime is spent setting up this ridiculous scenario. Where is the damn epic showdown?! This was a Versus movie right?
End of 'spoilers'.
And to all of you people defending this film, what in the hell are you thinking? Just because you're a fan of both franchises doesn't mean you have to swallow this and embarrass yourself on these pages. We deserved more. If you are OK with this film and do find it enjoyable, you are completely void of any taste in film. I simply do not understand your mediocrity.
For having more potential than almost any film in the last decade and releasing this stank pickle, I give AVP 1/10. R.I.P. Alien and Predator.
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Paradoxial, 10 September 2004
Author: jaywriterXIII from USA
Most people going into this film want to see one thing: Aliens and Predators rip into each other. I suspect a great many geeks and lame individuals inhabiting message boards of every corner of the internet will complain that this film spends too much time with the humans when the name of the film is 'Alien versus Predator' and they couldn't care about the humans, and another sect will whine about how shallow the film is to jump right to the big fight as soon as it can possibly set it up.
The nice thing about the Freddy vs Jason premise is the fact that most of the Elm Street films and none of the Friday the 13th films had any substance to them, so throwing the two juggernauts into a battle rumble with each other with a side of useless characters and uninspired plot shouldn't have phased anyone but the most deluded of fans. I really liked FvsJ more so than all but the Craven-driven Elm Streets and the all the F13s.
Alien vs Predator is quite a bit different since I love Ridley Scott's Alien and James Cameron's Aliens, and though I don't hold Predator 1 & 2 on the same level, I'm still pretty fond of the original Predator film (been too long since I've seen Predator 2). The Alien series (and to a much lesser extent, the Predator series too) has always been about depth . . . so to just throw the two monsters at each other and let them rip into each other really does not do them any justice and strips away what makes their films so good to begin with.
So . . . AVP takes a middle path. It attempts to build up the characters to an extent, it attempts to give a valid reason for both the Aliens and Predators to be in the same location, and it attempts to do it as quickly as it can. How well does it succeed? I found myself wishing it would either slow down more or pick up the pace.
I'm very pleased to see the stylish Paul Anderson lead this tangled and difficult project. His nods to the original films, in jokes, and slower paced setup were much appreciated from me. Ninety minutes of guys in rubber suits cut with CG monsters fighting constantly just will not cut it. I felt Anderson rushed the setup (or the studio rushed him); but part of me did grow bored of the characters rather quickly, and I did want to see the Alien and Predators get together sooner than they did.
The lingering time between bouts did create more tension and anticipation for the coming fights, which I admired, and when the beasts finally sank claws and teeth into one another I found myself more or less satisfied. At first I felt somewhat let down by how seemingly easily a few Predators went down; however, then I remembered these things were fighting Aliens with bare fists and blades when Space Marines were getting slaughtered with state of the art artillery.
A classless director would have started with a bang, ended with a bang, and had a boring parade of bangs. When I want meaningless, yet entertaining, bangs I buy firecrackers and save myself both time and money. Paul Anderson strived for something more, and pretty much came through. While I did like the film and the idea of Aliens and Predators fighting it out, I couldn't help but compare it to the superior films that inspired it. As fun as AVP is, and as much as I like Paul Anderson . . . he is not Ridley Scott and this is not Alien.
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An utter work of genius, 2 July 2006
Author: eboxtree
Many people castigate Paul Anderson for destroying both the Alien and Predator franchises. I must say that they have no clue and the director/writer is a true genius for having pulled this movie off. Notice that I did'nt say that this movie itself was great but it was a work of genius. So what is the movie like? It is by far one of the worst and most disgusting pieces of crap that will kill your interest in both the Alien and predator. But don't you get it? That's the point.
Paul Anderson obviously hates the fans of the franchises and has been hating them for a while now. He hates them beyond anything and they must be made to pay dearly and suffer. So in a brilliant plan, he manages to fraud the fools at Fox to give him the project. He did that despite the fact that his previous movies were laughable. Now isn't that just genius? Anderson has made a joke out of every single thing that made the concepts stand out. Your innocent curiosity will make you sit through his parody in hopes of some big twist but it never happens. Scene after Scene is one joke after another. How can anyone possibly imagine a bullet-time mode for an Alien attack? All this has been done very intentionally and nobody realises that. Once you've watched this movie, there's nothing you can do about it. You've lost and Anderson has won. His revenge on fans is complete. Hes also left room for a sequel by including a predalien birth at the end, further putting a big hole in future stories. He makes a ton of money too. Genius.
Oh, I should have said EVIL genius.
UNLESS YOU WANT YOUR INTEREST IN ALIENS AND PREDATORS KILLED OFF, DO NOT WATCH THIS MOVIE. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
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well, 2 July 2006
Author: rudagar666 from United Kingdom
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
well mainly that out of the 3 predators, two of them are killed easily, i mean watching them fight that one alien was like watching a 2 old child fight a lion. however the one "main" predator who is the biggest wuss ever to come from the predator home world because he has a soft spot for humans, well human, kills dozens with relative ease also, in aliens the acid burns through a lot of METAL floors, however this woman's face has developed the ability to with stand this potent acid? i therefore deduce that the woman is in fact a terminator, sent back in time for a completely irrelevant mission....at least my explanation makes more sense then the movie!
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Bad, really bad, 5 June 2006
Author: Andrade David from Brazil
Okay, I'll confess that the only reason I registered at this site is to tell people how bad this movie really is.
AVP is embarrassing, the whole thing gives you the impression of an empty commercial exploitation on the well-known monsters images.
Anyone who comes to this kinda of review sites and gives this movie a 10 out of 10 is either a Fox films employee or related to the film crew somehow. Don't fall for it.
The whole idea of teen Predators hunting Aliens to become "real warriors" is idiotic. How can you compare a high tech civilization that is able to travel space to Indians? Okay, maybe It is possible they would have the same kind of ritual, after all why can't highly developed species have their rituals...
I was intrigued about how the first time a Predator blew itself up on top of the Pyramid it did not damage the construction at all.... Of course, the second time that another Predator did that, the whole thing fell apart.
It is laughable the friendship among the hero-chick and the teen Predator. I could almost see them holding hands and running away in the end of the movie. It turns out that the Predator developed feelings for her. I wonder why the Predators first came down from the sky shooting the hell out of the other guys who stayed in the abandoned whailing facility, no questions asked. Still wondering...
I didn't like the "new" Alien life cycle. The face-hugger burst out as an alien in 40 seconds. This is truly ridiculous. Anderson did not even take the time to watch the original Alien movie.
On top of that, the cast is composed by a bunch obscure nobodies in shallow roles. Even if they were any good, the lines they received would just have made them look as bad as they did.
As an Alien and Predator fan I felt I was disrespected. If you are too, you will know what I am talking about
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