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7/10
Not a fan of sequels, but....
mockylock28 November 2004
I always get kind of agitated when producers feel a need to make sequels. I have never seen one that actually mattered. This one didn't either.

Having said that I do feel a need to actually recommend this Ju-On part. Besides the obvious rerun of old tricks, some of the new material is actually quite interesting and well-thought of. For example the thuds on the wall (that the couple hears every night around 12.30)are later explained in an eerie way. The wig-on-the-floor-thing was nicely done.

Finally, I thought the birth was original as well as the ending of the movie.

All in all entertaining (for a "Part two" movie) but not a MUST SEE.
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5/10
Man, we need a storyline to go on......
dcheng-721 August 2006
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If you have a pure affection for scary scenes you may find this movie pretty enjoyable. But most of us are human beings with a power to reason and that's where this film has completely failed us!

To start with I really don't know what this "grudge" means despite the explanation in the film. There's completely no logic.

Alright, a boy and an apparently innocent and good looking woman ( even in her ghost look) was brutally killed. They have turned into ghosts. I can take that. But why have they at the same time lost their minds and start murdering everyone they can get hold of? What are they up to? And can anyone tell me how the hell can ghost be reborn as human again? Is the reborn girl a hybrid inborn with the aptitude of pushing her mom down the stairs at the age of 5?

I mean, every day there are brutal murders to innocent people everywhere and these islands of grudges set up could have erased the human race in months if according to this"grudge" principle. What would the world be like if it is filled of grudged ghosts without humans?

The storyteller must give us humans some logic to chew on, some codes to comprehend ghosts' behavior, and some clues to untie the knot! This had not happened in the film. Instead, Shimizu untiringly performs the same trick over and over again , resulting in death after death from the same predators, and in very similar manners, and for no reasons.

Even if the logic is to be revealed in the later sequel it will be too late. We have to have a reason to bring us through these 3 hours of mutilation of human beings by angry ghosts to prevent us from becoming angry audience, and ending up having grudges against the movie.

Man, we need a storyline to go on! Not just scary scenes!
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5/10
Same as the first, but worse.
simonharpham-112 November 2007
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I found this even more confusing (and even less frightening) than the first Grudge film, with which it shares many features: The same lack of coherent plot (again I had to refer to the synopsis (above) to find out what the film's actually about), the same white-faced children, the same girl from The Ring (nice effect the first time I saw it, getting a bit passé now), same pools of water (ooh, scary, scary water), same silly hairpiece dragging itself across the floor (couldn't the characters just squash the thing with a heavy book or something?). Not scary in the slightest: would probably have been better billed as a light comedy, or a soporific.
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In my opinion; this is easily as great - and perhaps even more terrifying - than the first instalment.
ThreeSadTigers29 December 2007
By now, most audiences will be fairly familiar with the Japanese series of films known as Ju On: The Grudge; the phenomenally successful saga that began with the straight to video projects Ju On: The Curse, parts 1 and 2 - in which jealousy and adultery in a quaint Japanese suburb leads to an awful murder that marks the house for anyone who subsequently enters it - right the way through to the larger-budgeted Hollywood remake of the film and it's equally glossy sequel. Subsequent films following on from The Curse have taken the initial murder as their starting point and created around it a film of loosely connected horror vignettes, mostly in which a series of hapless characters end up in the film's iconic haunted house and then find themselves marked for death by the two most prominent apparitions of the story.

If you have already seen the American re-make of The Grudge with Sarah Michelle Geller then there's a good chance that this follow up to the Japanese original will come as something of shock. Unlike its US counterpart, this grudge features no real central character and has no real plot development (at least, not in the traditional sense). I personally don't see this as a bad thing, as it allows director Takashi Shimizu to concentrate on crafting a number of scenes of gripping high tension - as the collection of disparate innocents (this time a TV crew shooting a horror film based upon the events of the original film) who unknowingly come into contact with the infamous house and then must come to terms with the unexplainable horror that is happening all around them. However, viewers who look for things like narrative closure, explanations of plot developments and something approaching a hero that they can root for might be sorely disappointed.

As I mentioned above, this version of The Grudge instead strings together a series of inter-woven scenes that establish the significance of the curse whist setting up a number of fantastic, edge-of-your seat moments of haunted house horror. This isn't a gritty gore-fest with annoying, smug, ultra-cynical characters (as seems to be the trend with much contemporary horror - think Wolf Creek, Hostel, Cabin Fever, The Hills Have Eyes remake and 28 Weeks Later) but rather, the kind of horror that should appeal to anyone who has had to walk home late at night through an empty park and felt the presence of someone (or something) following closely behind. Your heart starts racing as you quicken your step and become convinced that you can hear footsteps rapidly approaching from the left of your shoulder! When you finally pick up the courage to turn around and look, you realise your mind has been playing tricks on you, but the thrill was still heart-stopping regardless.

I prefer this kind of horror, which is why I'm such a huge fan of the horror films coming out of Japan, China and North Korea; great works like The Eye trilogy, Wishing Stairs, Abnormal Beauty, Premonition, Infection, Chaos, A Tale of Two Sisters and Takashi Shimizu's own Grudge-follow up Reincarnation. It's slow moving and slow building, almost ambient even; often coming at you from the rear speakers rather than full and on in your face, which for me, really creates a great, eerie atmosphere that works perfectly if you're watching it at 1:30 AM and have to pause for a toilet break and to let the dog out to stretch her legs.

Unlike a lot of his American contemporaries, Takashi Shimizu realises that horror isn't about what you see, but what you don't see, and with this in mind he saves any prolonged glimpses of our ghostly antagonists until right towards the very end. He also manages to create a wonderful feeling of isolation, alienation and hopeless emptiness; not only from the haunted house so central to the story, but even in the brightly-lit suburban streets, schools, office blocks and apartment buildings that our characters inhabit. The film is also shot very simply and traditionally, with none of the hyper-cutting and frantic camera movements of western horror, which again, gives the Grudge a more believable and authentic feeling that only heightens the senses of horror and tension. This is also helped by the wonderful performances of the cast who manage to ably convey the right sense of fraught emotion without descending into screaming histrionics.

For me, The Grudge 2 is easily as great the first instalment; although some viewers may find the more outrageous elements of the closing scenes to be a little too much (I'm guessing the planned third instalment will pick up on and explain some of these ideas, but we'll have to wait and see). This is horror for those who want chills rather than spills, and those who like to invest some serious time in something that is slower, more deliberate and more dramatic than the usual stalk and slash type stuff (not that I don't love that kind of horror as well, but it's nice to have an intelligent alternative). As mentioned previously, there will be some viewers who won't want to invest their time in such a film that has no obvious sense of narrative and no single identifiable character, but at the end of the day, that's their decision. But they're clearly missing out!
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7/10
Just as great as the first film....
MovieGuy0117 October 2009
I Thought that Ju-on 2 Was a great horror film just as good as the first film. While driving, a pregnant horror-movie actress Kyôko Harase and her fiancé are in a car crash caused by the Toshio's friend. Kyôko loses her baby and her fiancé ends up in a coma. Kyôko was cursed together with a television crew when they shot a show in the haunted house where Kayako was brutally murdered by her husband years ago. While each member of the team dies. Kyôko is informed that she has a three-and-a-half-month-old foetus in her womb. I Thought that Ju-on 2 was a great horror film. I felt that This film which was directed by Shimizu Takashi was more psychologically disturbing than the first film. and i felt that it had a very creepy feel to it.
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6/10
S10 Reviews: Ju-On: The Grudge 2 (2003)
suspiria1027 March 2005
This sequel to the Japanese hit surrounds how the grudge curse affects the lives of a TV show crew and an actress who do a show from the accursed home. Ju-On: The Grudge 2 's story is told in the same non-linear way that the first one was, but this time around rather than being effective it seems to just muddy the whole film. It will leave you scratching your head at times and might even be a bit frustrating. The sequel lacked the overall atmosphere of the first one. It had several good chills or two and even a boo now and then but the overall effect is a bit lackluster and disappointing. The moral of this story is to be wary of ticked off people, especially dead ones and for heavens sake clean that stain on the carpet, it may well be a portal to another zip code.
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6/10
Oakay horror
tomimt31 July 2005
The Grudge 2 is surprisingly scary movie, even tough it's not extremely good as a movie. Most of this is merit to the eerie atmosphere of the film.

Now, the plot itself is quite simple: a TV group is making a documentary of a house, which has a history of violence. Angry spirits of the house start slaughtering the group from some reason or another, it really wasn't explained why, but that's what happens in the flick. You could actually say, that The Grudge 2 is almost totally plot less movie, that shows one killing after another, in not in any particular order.

And for another thing, the DVD I watched it from suffered from extremely poor encoding: there was unforgivable amount of pixelation visible on the TV. And it was official rental DVD. I hope you will have better luck with the image quality.
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4/10
Flat uninspiring sequel to a classic
slowcando8 October 2023
Ju-on: The Grudge 1 (2002) is brilliant. It should be watched before any other Ju-on/Grudge film. A real one-off: trippy, atmospheric, unpredictable, well-acted, nicely shot, genuine chills, great ending....all the elements work. Makes my Top Ten Horror Movies.

I've also seen the first two: Ju-on: Curse 1&2 (both decent but non-essential 7/10), and the first two american ones (6/10 & 4/10). Now the second japanese Grudge...which disappointingly is one of the worst entries...

...it's somehow flat. There's no real atmosphere. The 'scares' are tired rehashes. The trippy factor is missing. The main actress is dull. All the acting is a little basic. Sound-design seems off. Nothing really memorable happens, even the 'twist' felt a bit meh and is an uninspired ripoff of a certain famous american horror-classic from the late-60's.

It was the wrong decision to once again base the story at that same house, especially when the previous film hinted at a more profound event spreading outwards. Deciding not to go the ambitious route and staying safe by sticking to the house and utilising the same scares means this sequel is non-essential viewing...and unlike The Curse it doesn't even have atmosphere or memorable scenes going for it.

So out of now six Grudge movies, the only one definitely worth watching is 2002's Ju-on: The Grudge. The others are for completists. At this stage I don't feel inspired to check out the rest of the series.

Next jap-horror on the watchlist will be either 90's Spiral or the 60's Onibaba. Watch this space :)
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8/10
Freaky!
Gafke31 May 2004
The rage of Kayako and her son Toshio continue in this sequel to "Ju-On: The Grudge." Creepier and scarier than the first film, Ju-On 2 begins with a young couple and a tragic car accident which leaves a pregnant television star named Kyoko devastated. With her fiancé in a coma and her unborn baby supposedly lost, she continues with her blossoming career in horror films. But when she agrees to appear in a pseudo-documentary about the "haunted house" where Kayako and Toshio still "reside," the virus of the Grudge begins anew. Soon, everyone involved with the production is missing or dead, and Kyoko, who has recently been informed that her baby is not lost after all, begins to realize that what she is carrying may not be hers at all.

Ju-On 2 is definitely much more scarier than its predecessor. Disturbing sound effects, jerky camera movements and one dizzy nightmarish scene after another literally left me reeling, feeling as confused and freaked out as the characters in the film. There are some great visual effects here; Kayako and her wild hair spread over a ceiling, tendrils dropping down into lethal nooses; a wig come to hideous life and the ghostly blue Toshio staring out of the darkness. The ending was a work of morbid art, leaving me quite stunned. "Ju-On 2" has proved beyond a doubt that sequels are not always a bad thing, and sometimes, they're even better!

Highly recommended!
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6/10
Getting old.
troika1921 September 2004
I remember seeing the preview of this movie and thinking "wow" but sadly watching this movie left me with a now familiar feeling of "huh?".

Okay I kind of get the ending (I won't spoil it) but some middle parts of the movie were just plain confusing and just seemed to be there for the sake of cheap scares or fill time, My main complaint is the Chiharu part of the story that just confused Me and seemed to be part of a totally different movie all together (it reminded Me of A Nightmare on Elm Street), I didn't mind the unexplained elements in Asian cinema at first but sadly it's starting to show up in more and more movies and is imo becoming a cop out to avoid explaining confusing elements of movies which don't add up or fit into the overall plot.

Overall an okay movie but if I see one more Sedako style scene rip off I'll scream.

6/10
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3/10
can't understand it at all
ahmedjerry200017 September 2006
sorry it's really movie i couldn't understand at all first of all the name's were very strange to me then the plot was very confused the relationships between the characters of the movie another mystery what's happened to the mother is she died ? a lot of questions which you will never get an answer to them it's really so bad but still the main idea of the movie is not so bad this haunted house and whoever connect with it is disappeared by somehow i think i like it maybe the language has it's effect my mother tongue is Arabic and as you know we all used to English but Japanaise is very unfamiliar . It could be .the end of it was so mysterious don't get the meaning of this young girl with the mother and why she killed her
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8/10
Ju-On Two - Twice as Good
theeintolerablekidd12 June 2009
I was disappointed by the original but this sequel was much, much better. Everything about it has been improved - the plot, the character development, the direction, the mood, the fear factor. The over all feeling of this film is very very creepy. It's exactly how a ghost story should be. It doesn't give you the kind of scares that make you jump out of your skin like some movies do but what it does give you is a very uneasy and haunting feeling.

The arrangement and fragmentation of script was excellent. It's broken up into separate stories or chapters like the first one but they've played with the time line in this one in a very wonderful way which contributes to the ghostly feeling of the film as a whole. The story with the banging on the wall was a particular favourite of mine, and, I think, pretty genius.

I am so glad I watched this! It has now become one of my favourite Japanese horror films.
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7/10
nicely done sequel -- slight Spoiler
davidm-1414 February 2005
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i love this story! moody, slow-to-build, suspenseful and not-too-gory (though plenty creepy in places) sequel to the Japanese "ju-on" franchise. the so-called "queen of horror", after surviving an auto accident that puts her fiancé in a coma, takes part in filming a show at the infamous murder house. soon, the hair starts to fly and people start to disappear.

i loved the strange use of premonitions and the completely unexpected places mom and her son would show up. true, i don't speak Japanese, but you don't really need to to get the gist of the story. i felt in some places it was a little bit hard to follow (changing place, time and viewpoint very quickly) even with the subtitles. some of the characters targeted didn't even seem to have been to the house.....
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3/10
Poor. Waste of time
mighty_pickman9 June 2005
The first film Ju On: The Grudge, is personally one of the scariest films I have seen so I had high expectations of the sequel. I was sadly disappointed.

Ju On: The Grudge 2 really was a pointless exercise in film-making, that starts off poorly, barely keeps it's head above water in the middle & completely falls apart in the final third, it appears that the good ideas were used in the first film.

Sure you can get away with a lot in the world of horror but too many of the plot twist were just comically absurd & the whole Chiharu sub-plot was completely irrelevant to anything else in the film & didn't need to be there.

The whole rebirth concept reminded me a lot of the first Ringu sequel(Rasen) & guess what, it didn't really work for that series either but I did think that one it's own Rasen was a better film than Grudge 2.
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Best of the series.
HarryWarden2 March 2004
I'm happy to say that, after a slight disappointment with 'Ju On: The Grudge,' the series returns to form with this installment.

Just when you thought Takashi Shimizu had done everything there was to do with 'Ju On,' this third sequel (and second theatrical film) takes things in a slightly new direction...and gives us some of the most terrifying scenes yet.

Yes, Toshio and his Mum are still on the prowl. Yes, the plot is told in the same disjointed segment style. But, without spoiling the surprises, some new and unexpected twists are added to the mythology. And just as expected, there are plenty of images and sounds that will haunt you till your dying day.

I can't wait to see what Shimizu has in store with the fifth film (the American installment) and dread the thought of seeing these images on a big screen!
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6/10
Not as scary as the American remake
jvdurme28 February 2005
Rented this movie after seeing The Grudge (American remake) in the movies couple of weeks ago. While the American remake of Ju-On was extraordinary scary and so dark, this Japanese sequel let me down a little. I hadn't seen Ju-On (the first theatrical in Japanese), but friends told me that the original Japanese versions are always a tad harder edged than the American remakes. Well, not this one. The Grudge (with Sarah) made me scream and wanting to close my eyes every ten minutes. It was a new kind of horror, so I had to see more of this. But "Ju-On: The Grudge 2" is not as dark as the American remake. The atmosphere isn't as pressurizing and the camera viewpoints and the effects just aren't that great to scare the beezeejes out of you. Of course, it contains several freak moments, but in the end I was like: "Well, OK". Instead, the American The Grudge haunted me for weeks!
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6/10
Grand Theft Auto IV?
freakfire-126 April 2008
So, let me begin by saying I am not a Grudge fan. Well, OK, I am not a fan of the American Grudge versions. Those versions might have had better film quality, but certainly have less entertainment value. Really, giving birth to a new grudge? That was a neat little trick to keep it all going. But the American one only offers cat noises and flashbacks.

I found it interesting that the thud sounds were sounds from the future (in an eerie way). But most of all, I liked how this Grudge doesn't waste too much time with the stupid throat sound. Yes kind of creepy, but stupid.

However, the kills were nice. I wish these directors did the American versions. "C+"
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6/10
Weakest of the Japanese Originals
dbborroughs31 October 2004
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Pregnant actress has the spirits of the earlier films invade her life and the lives of those around her.

THIS MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS SO SKIP THIS PART

The trouble for me was that from the first moments I knew where this was going to go. One does not need to be a rocket scientist to know what direction this is going to go. Think about it pregnancy and you've filled in a good chunk of the plot.

The fact that I couldn't predict the 3 first films, even the second TV film which I wasn't a big fan of, added greatly to the enjoyment.

I also was not a big fan of how a large portion of this film repeated or referenced almost every scary moment of the earlier films.

END SPOILERS

Yes the effects are great and there are several creepy moments but for me this one just didn't come together the way it should have. There is something wrong about the film and it effectively ends the series as we know it, maybe...

For me 7 out of ten, for you?
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2/10
Nowhere near as good or scary as the first one
kiss_my_swingers31 January 2008
I bought this on DVD at Christmas without having seen it previously. I did the same with "The Grudge" and it was a great experience; my friend and I (23 and 21 at the time) were so scared we had to watch "Finding Nemo" to calm us down. I refused to watch "The Grudge 2" on my own, so waited for the same friend to watch it. Now, two friends (25 and 23 now) have never been less scared in their lives. I've been more scared by toy commercials than this film. It just seemed far too contrived and too similar to the first film. Bits of it were good, but instead of being scared we just said "That was good". This film is a big let down, let's just hope the 3rd one gets the series back on it's feet.
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8/10
It's one of the best horror sequel EVER!
atinder24 June 2009
I Start of with the The Plot: As driving, the pregnant horror-movie actress Kyôko Harase and her fiancé are in a car crash caused by the Toshio's friend. Kyôko loses her baby and her fiancé winds up in a coma. Kyôko was cursed together with a television crew when they shot a show in the haunted house where Kayako was brutally murdered by her husband years ago. While each member of the team dies or disappears, Kyôko is informed that she has a three-and-a-half-month-old foetus in her womb.

The first Ju-on-The Grudge was the creepiest movie I have ever seen.

It scared me for two days,Just when you thought The Grudge couldn't get any scarier then Ju-on-The Grudge they bring the Spine-chilling Ju-on-The Grudge 2.

This is one hell of a scary movie, From the start to thr end you will be left confused by some scenes,

the more confusing it gets, the more it creeps you out!

This movie has some very creepy scenes that keep you on the edge of your seat but then the last ten minutes of the movie was just petrifying,

it scared the living daylight out me! Acting from the whole cast was great!

This sequel was more creepy then the first movie but less scary then the first but It's one of the best horror sequel EVER! I give 9/10
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6/10
It Was OK
NutNutNutella17 April 2006
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It was an OK film. the good thing is it is MUCH easier to understand then the 1st Japanese film. But the bad thing is, The Grudge is just meant to be the feeling of anger and pain of the person who was killed in a horrible way in their home, so the emotions and memories sort of come to life as a curse on the house and have a grudge against everyone who goes in it, but in this film The Grudge is not just killing people but making a new grudge of their own from a pregnant woman? and the pregnant woman lost her baby so they impregnated her again? how is the grudge supposed to have the power to do that? Which i find very un-believable, well the whole grudge thing is not believable but still i think adding that was stupid, but if you look past that its still not a complete waste of time. But hey I'm only a teenager what do i know? Hope this helped slightly.
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1/10
What the hell was this?
gribbles18 April 2006
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I have to admit I haven't seen Grudge 1, but I have seen The Ring so I understand that Asian horror films are a bit different. But really, this film was terrible and not the least bit scary. Incomprehensible is a better descriptor. Corny, predictable and dull, yes.

The plot just left me going "what?" as you had a succession of undeveloped characters getting bumped off in disjointed "future-past-future" sequences that just left you scratching your head. Large chunks of the film went unexplained - such as the whole schoolgirl extra storyline, why ghost-woman-and-boy were targeting people who hadn't even been in the house (boyfriends, schoolgirl extras etc), why the hell ghost-woman-reborn-as-evil-child waited five or six years to kill mum on a whim....etc, etc, etc....

Sorry, this one just left me thankful we hadn't paid good money to see it at the movies.
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8/10
Actually quite good!
artemis03026 July 2005
"Ju-on:The Grudge 2" is the sequel to the smash-hit "Ju-on:The Grudge", and is the fourth installment into the "Ju-on" series. Like it's precursor, it is told in chapters. All the chapters are somehow connected to the curse of the grudge.

Were you disappointed by "Ju-on:The Grudge"? Well, if you were (like me), you'll be surprised. This sequel was MUCH better than the original in almost every aspect. The scares were more scarier, there were more scares, tenser scenes, a LOT better acting, a much better story, and a more solid plot. I was really surprised by how good this sequel was. Ever heard of the old sequel rule? "Sequels are never as good as the originals"? Well, I' happy to say that that doesn't apply here.

So to sum it up, I really enjoyed this movie. It was a major improvement on the original film. If you're a fan of the Ju-on series, you have to watch this.
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7/10
Ju-on: The Grudge 2 (2003)
SnakesOnAnAfricanPlain29 December 2011
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Another entry into the Japanese horror genre. The film focuses on a house where something truly awful has happened in the past. As different people enter the house the tormented spirits of the previous occupants wreak havoc. The films plot is simple and classic, it differs by offering a string of episodic adventures for each different person who enters. This approach makes sure that the scares keep on coming, fast and furious, but means it lacks a real narrative depth. It also means we are unable to really feel for any of the characters. 'Ju-on' is basically a straight forward horror. We are thrust into a mystery, as to what the hell is going on, and we get a continuous string of scares until the final revelatory scene. The scares are very effective, using a stripped down budget, with simple make-up proving very scary in deed. Freaky children, crawling women with long hair and cracking bones. This is all stuff we have seen before, but it is presented in such an effective fashion it is like a remastered edition of your favourite horrors. Sound plays a very important part of the film, with cats screaming, fingers scraping and throats gurgling. The audiences imagination participates in creating a few extra scares where needed. Some may find that the film is like a never ending story, and becomes repetitive. It may be so, but it is easy to digest in its bite size segments.
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3/10
Grudge 2 Ju-On zero
juliankennedy2318 October 2006
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Ju-On The Grudge 2: 3 out of 10. When horror franchises go back to the same well they often attempt to at least make superficial changes in the main character's circumstances. (It's Jason but he is in 3-d. It's Jason but he is in New York. It's Jason but he is in space.) Now I'm not suggesting these efforts actually worked. (Leprechauns in Space or Children of the Corn in the ghetto are two abominable examples but I have to give the Halloween people credit when their main killer Michael Myers went off to do Wayne's World)

However at least these franchises made the appearance of some effort. Ju-on the Grudge 2 is actually the fourth or fifth Ju-on movie depending on who is counting. And it is the exact same house and the exact same ghosts and the whole grudge part makes even less sense than ever. (Even the Amityville Horror series had the decency to leave the damn house eventually) To make matters worse we have had approximately 100 white screeching ghost chicks with black hair Asian horror films since the first one.

It seems like every Asian culture is raping their heritage to come up with their own home grown spook. (Strangely enough one of the recent knockoffs I saw Thailand's Ghost of Mae Nak used Final Destination death scenes rather than the black haired white faced knockoff to get scares. Even the Johnny come lately realize that this genre is spent.) The ghosts once again are the marshmallow boy and the scary woman with hair of death. The movie is shot Memento like completely out of order. Needless to say this does not help matters. The death scenes are generally not shown but suggested which can add to the confusion. By the time you figure out what is going on the movie is half over. Some effective scares but the wig bit in the middle and the Omen stuff at the end had me laughing with disbelief.

Large amounts of silence and a ridiculously slow pace will challenge even the most caffeinated viewers to stay awake. The main characters don't help as they are pretty boring and lack any personality or spark.

Ju-On the Grudge 2 is the same movie as the others but with less. This sequel is for a fanatic or completest only.
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