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10 out of 13 people found the following review useful:
Harmless enough, 8 October 2003
Author:
slane0 from United States
This movie demonstrates that you cannot make movies by committee. You need a clear vision of the end product before you begin, which these directors obviously didn't have. But it's harmless enough. I didn't laugh. I didn't cry. I've seen much, much worse.
17 out of 29 people found the following review useful:
Yet another bland offering from "Project Greenlight", 11 June 2004
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Author:
Terminal Madness (rpgforms@yahoo.com) from http://www.cinema-crazed.com
"The Battle of Shaker Heights" is the second offering released and made from
the successful HBO reality series "Project Green light" which chronicles the
search for a screenplay and director in which Ben Affleck and Matt Damon
will produce for one million dollars. Then we get to see the movie being
made and inevitably watch the film.
I didn't see the first season of "Project Greenlight" but I did watch the
product of it "Stolen Summer", a mediocre, bland, and safe offering from
Damon and Affleck who don't want to take a risk considering their history
for risky and edgy indies like "Mallrats", "Chasing Amy", and "Gerry". I
decided to watch the second season of "Project Greenlight" and yet again it
was the search for a screenplay to finance and a director.
For the second season there was the same self-indulgent ranting from Affleck
and Damon, and some showing off of J.Lo from Affleck but nonetheless I
watched amateur screenwriter Erica Beeney win, and a two director team Efram
Potelle, and Kyle Rankin get the chance to show off their chops. Suffice it
to say the season was a rip as we watched these three amateurs slog through
the production, fight, and fail in all the test screenings to audiences. So,
"The Battle of Shaker Heights" was made and released, and yet again after
watching I realized it's still more contrived, fluffy, and safe offerings
into the film world.
I can't understand why Affleck and Damon won't take more riskier projects on
board and insist on financing these fluffy shallow films other than using
this show for publicity. What's wrong with "The Battle of Shaker Heights"?
Many things, but mostly it's it's horrible script and dialogue. Some
dialogue had me cringing, some had me staring in confusion, and some
dialogue just left me alienated.
We saw the series, we saw the activity, and we saw how many people actually
had input on the making of this movie. It's clear by this movie, all of its
characters, all of the muddled subplots taking place at once that there were
simply too many cooks in the kitchen. We could see it in the series. We saw
the directors Efram Potelle and Kyle Rankin, two very unprofessional
directors attempting to take control of the film and re-write the script, we
saw Erica Beeney trying to take control of her script, we saw producers Matt
Damon and Ben Affleck weighing in, we saw Harvey Weinstein weighing in, we
saw producer Chris Moore coming in and trying to take control. There was
just too many people for one movie, and that's the problem. Did it occur to
anyone to give them the money and let them make the film, then give your
input on the finishing article?
Ultimately, "The Battle of Shaker Heights" is not a movie, it's a concept
for a movie that never gets off the ground. I felt like I was watching an
hour and a half trailer for a movie with a bunch of random scenes cut
together without a real story, I can't wait to find out what the real movie
looks like. What "Shaker Heights" suffers from with the mediocre directing
job is a very underdeveloped range of characters that we never get to know.
We trudge through lines like "Why are you dicking with me, you little dick.
You wanna play, dick face?" and the worst of the dialogue where the main
character Kelly is attempting to talk with Tabby. She is painting and she
says "I'm playing with diffusion", to which he replies "Well make sure you
do it under super vision." Ha ha. It's cheesy lines like that make this
movie so ridiculous at times.
Kelly played by the very talented Shia Lebeouf is a world war re-creationist
who takes pride in knowing about the wars fought and is a bit rebellious,
and one day he meets Bart the youngest in a rich family who befriends the
troubled youth and the two become friends, until Kelly meets Bart's older
sister Tabby well played by Amy Smart who doesn't seem to acknowledge the
boy but still befriends him slightly and goes about her business. Soon Kelly
looks for any excuse to hand around Tabby knowing she's getting married
which creates conflict. Very under-developed conflict.
Throughout the entire film I was thinking how good this movie could have
been had they added thirty more minutes to the running time which could have
left the door open for more character development and more development with
its number of subplots, but once again, its story never goes beyond its
concept. Kelly is an odd character, he's a war buff because hey he has a
vehicle and wears the clothing, and he works at a supermarket when there's
nobody there, and he has a friend/co-worker named Sarah played by the
adorable Shiri Appleby, another grossly under developed character who has a
combined total of five scenes in the film and is never focused on. We know
the two are friends and we get the slight sense she's jealous at his fawning
over another woman, but there's barely any focus on her, so who
cares?
So, we see Tabby another under-developed character who's given the persona
of an artistic individual who never develops beyond her character concept.
She's a bit of a tease towards Kelly giving him little smiles and flirty
come on's yet gets angered when he responds. She's then given the plot that
she's getting married to a guy named Miner to when she's ever asked about
the marriage she quickly responds "I don't want to talk about it." Why? They
never explain it. It was assumed by me that she was set up from another rich
family and forced to marry him. But it's never explained in the sloppy
script.
So Kelly confronts her in a really bad scene when she's crying complaining
her fiance kissed another woman which leads to a kiss between the two
characters. If she hardly seems to care about her fiance why does she care
that he cheated? It's plot holes like that that make the movie unbearable to
watch at times. The character Miner, Tabby's fiance doesn't seem to be a bad
guy. He befriends Kelly, talks to him like a friend, yet we're supposed to
view him as the bad guy.
Screenwriter Beeney never gives us a reason to hate him, so Kelly is the one
that comes off as the jerk in his pursuit towards Tabby. Then it's never
explained why Kelly falls in love with Tabby in the first place, and we
never really get to know Bart outside of his conceptual design as a neat
dresser and proper yet friendly guy. So, Kelly is given an obligatory
sub-plot which handles the job of setting up his character but is really
forced. His mom is a Bohemian artist who houses a group of artists who
manufacture paintings in their home and sell them, and Kelly's father works
somewhere with drug addicts.
Being an ex-addict himself, he tries to reach out to Kelly though Kelly
refuses to talk to him. Once again, Kelly's parents aren't given subplots
nor are they developed and fleshed out, so they're simply plot devices in
the end. The plot tries to reel towards comedic tones but ultimately ends up
as a depressing drama about a rather annoying guy. Writer Beeney sets up so
many sub-plots at once but never fleshes them out and never develops them,
so everything feels forced, awkward, and rushed. Even as it transforms into
a drama, the drama is forced as well in some awkward and droning scenes
including Kelly confronting Tabby on her wedding day, a scene where Bart and
Kelly inflict revenge on a school bully which attempts to be funny but just
ends up becoming mean, and the happy safe ending which is so trite, obvious,
and tacked on it left me groaning in my seat.
"The Battle of Shaker Heights" has a lot of potential to be a great coming
of age teen drama, but potential is all it has. "The Battle of Shaker
Heights" and "Stolen Summer" is proof that a good concept doesn't always pan
out in a successful franchise. While the "Project Greenlight" is
entertaining and engrossing the finishing products are poor. How about
throwing more money and time to these poor people? It's no wonder HBO
dropped the series.
Though this does garner great performances by Smart, Elden Henson, and
especially Shia Lebeouf and the occasional entertaining moment, this suffers
from a terrible script with grossly under-developed sub-plots and
characters, cheesy dialogue, and many plot holes.
My advice: stop "Project Greenlight" until Affleck and Damon are ready to
take risks in their investments and until Miramax is willing to cough up
more money and time for making these films. Then maybe we'll get a film
worth talking about.
* and a half out of **** stars.
5 out of 7 people found the following review useful:
Another wonderful performance from Shia., 23 January 2004
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Author:
Kerry from Portland, OR
Shia LaBeouf delivers another wonderful performance in the movie. I give Hollywood another year and half to figure out how kick ass he is. This film would not have been nearly as moving and watchable as it is without him. Can't wait to see what he does next!
6 out of 9 people found the following review useful:
One of the best Movies of the Summer!, 23 August 2003
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Author:
fiddle245 from New York
I saw Shaker, & just have to say I loved it! I went into the theatre
thinking it would be a disaster like last years "Stolen Summer", but was
greatly surprised. The movie holds its own as a comedy, & has many funny
moments. In the theatre I was in, there was tons of laughter. Shia's
performance impressed me the most. He was great at delivering the
material,
& was just as strong in the few dramatic scenes. I see a great future
for
this kid. All the dustin hoffman comparisons are justified. Elden is
also
quite good as Bart. Amy Smart was not as great as the rest of the cast,
but
still a decent performer.
Some critics dont like the movie, but it seems they are reviewing the TV
show, rather than the movie. I've never trusted critics that much
anyway.
I would wholeheartedly reccomend anyone, whether you watch PGL or not to
see
the movie. The directors really salvaged what seemed like a certain
disaster. Their editing skills are obviously 2nd to few in the biz.
Hope
to see them work again. Overall I would give the movie an 8/10 for its
humor, & excellent performance by newcomer Shia Labeouf.
-James
3 out of 4 people found the following review useful:
I wanted to love this movie, 21 October 2003
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Author:
mypantsaretootight from St Paul, MN
Oh, how I tried to love this movie. I was so emotionally invested in
Project Greenlight, and although the directors seemed like idiots, they
weren't evil idiots.
It turned out to be an okay movie, which is almost worse than being awful.
There were a few laughs, but for the most part I didn't care about the
characters in the movie nearly as much as the "characters" in Project
Greenlight, and that is the problem that I have with it. If someone has
to
see Project Greenlight in order to care about the movie, then the movie
failed.
3 out of 4 people found the following review useful:
Well done Project Greenlight, 29 August 2003
Author:
phoebec from Chicago
For a first time effort for writer and director(s) this was a fine little
movie. Million dollar budget, no time, documentary cameras. . . . I
think they did just fine. Besides, who else is giving people a shot
at getting started in this business? Ben Affleck and Matt Damon
could probably avoid a lot of grief if they turned their backs on this
whole thing, but they're trying something no one else in Hollywood
is right now. Why are the knives out for this movie more than My
Bosses Daughter?
Shia is a great actor who probably saved the film in many ways. I
enjoyed it. The theatre I was in was full, and people were
laughing. I wouldn't buy the DVD, but I certainly think it was worth
my time and money. I hope Project Greenlight continues, and
maybe they pick directors by asking them to do a scene from their
favorite script. Then we might find people who are more
comfortable with the material.
5 out of 8 people found the following review useful:
A MUST SEE - especially if you watched the HBO series "Project Greenlight"., 21 August 2003
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WO-MAN from USA
HBO did a "Real TV" series on the making of BSH which portrayed the co-directors, Efram Potelle & Kyle Rankin as two self-absorbed numb-nuts. Be ready to see why these two guys won the Project Greenlight Director contest in the first place! The movie is awesome given the absurd conditions they were given. I was personally present at the premier & was pleasantly surprised to find myself laughing out loud (along with 800 other attendees in the packed theatre). The movie brought you through a whole gamut of emotions in a very believable, "everyone can relate to" story line. With another wonderful performance by Shia, a well written script and two obviously very talented directors (who once again prove they can do more than comedy) The Battle of Shaker Heights is destined for good things...if Miramax allows it.
2 out of 3 people found the following review useful:
I like it., 12 January 2007
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Author:
nikeno71 from Carmichael, California
The film was one of those small films that packed a lot of heart. I felt everything that Kelly(Shia LaBeouf) was going through. A parent that doesn't care effects the child I don't care what they say. It hurts because are suppose to be there for their children no matter what. It had it's funny moments too because laughter is human nature. The love triangle worked too. It wasn't too long or too short. So that helped me really like the film. I recommend this film to anyone. Especially up and coming filmmakers. I also enjoyed watching it being made, and this is also the reason Shia is a star. In 2003, Holes, this, and "The Even Stevens Movie" is what made him huge overnight, and I really think people should recognize that.
2 out of 3 people found the following review useful:
Not Insulting, 27 August 2004
Author:
Robert J. Maxwell (rmax304823@yahoo.com) from Deming, New Mexico, USA
*** This review may contain spoilers ***
SPOILERS. A coming of age movie that raises questions about just how whacky
a kid can be without someone in a white coat paying attention. Reminds me a
little of other movies in which people walked the edge, "Sterile Cuckoo,"
for instance.
The kid, LaBoeuf, is in high school and is something of an outsider. He
makes enemies and he makes a friend, sort of. He's ordinary looking but
seems to know everything about everything -- from flowers to art and
military history.
He'd give all this up in one big jiffy if his friend's sister, Amy Smart, a
blonde graduate student who is so stunningly gorgeous that she is to
physical beauty what LaBoeuf is to intellectual prowess, would only give him
a tumble.
And she does. A little anyway, after an especially bad hair day when she
needs a little cuddling and reassurance. The problem of course is that this
little kiss of sympathy means little to her, but emotionally he's working at
about at his grade level.
In the end he more or less grows up and starts dating the plain but rather
engaging girl of his own age who works at the same supermarket.
There are some subplots thrown in. LaBoeuf's father managed to lose all the
kid's college money so the kid hates him. Kathleen Quinlan is the mother
and there are tearful scenes in which she tells LaBoeuf that he, LaBoeuf,
hates the man she loves. Much of this seems to belong to a different movie.
And I'm not sure Dad deserves much in the way of admiration, having
deprived his own kid of an education at Dartmouth and doomed him to a
community college.
For that matter I'm not sure that Tabby, the blonde he falls for, deserves
his adoration. In a frantic last-minute talk with her, when she's about to
be married, he tells her that the groom is not good enough for her because
he's just some kind of would-be industrialist while she is an artist. I
missed the first few minutes, but her work as we see it later, as she plays
with "diffusion" -- well, there are more staggeringly gripping abstracts
that have been done by elephants, literally.
I kind of liked Tabby's boy friend though. He's tall, muscular, and
handsome and looks stupid. When he and LaBoeuf first meet, LaBoeuf comes up
with some insane riff about how his job at the supermarket makes him a
caterpillar industrialist. The boy friend whistles and looks puzzled, but
then anyone would in the face of this uncrafted explication of what it means
to be a "pupa." And when we meet the boy friend later, for a minute or two,
he seems like a genuinely nice guy who admits to having rented his tuxedo
and who is really in love with Tabby. I had the feeling that he and Tabby
-- not just Amy Smart but ANYBODY named Tabby -- would get along just fine.
Even the divorce would be what is called "amicable."
Too many things are going on in the movie, but LaBoeuf comes across as a kid
who will eventually grow up and be a success in life once he is able to
differentiate between make-believe and realpolitik. It could easily have
been worse.
4 out of 7 people found the following review useful:
A barrel of laughs, 31 August 2003
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Author:
JimF29 from somewhere
I followed PGL2 religiously. I entered a screenplay in the competition. (a
ROMANTIC COMEDY even) I watched the show. When the movie came out in Boston,
I went to see it.
It is a barrel of laughs. I found it much funnier then American Wedding. I
noticed that it was a little short on time and even though they edited out
much of the drama in order to retain the comedy, there were a number of
lines that were cut out that I would have left in.
Despite my familiarity with the screenplay, seeing the film play out on the
big screen was a joy, and I found myself laughing out loud several
times.
I would have risked a wide opening (2000+ theaters) It probably would not
have been a major blockbuster, but I do believe it would have made back its
costs.
I'll get the DVD (the PGL2 box if my $ can afford it)
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