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137 out of 179 people found the following review useful:
The very definition of "Hollywood ending", 3 October 2004
Author:
binaryDigit from Texas
My comment to my wife after watching the film was "if aliens came to
earth and wanted to know what was meant by the term 'Hollywood
Ending'", then they would just have to watch this film to find out.
As previously mentioned, the first half of the movie is interesting.
The often used premise of "what is reality" and the thought that that
which you hold as real runs counter to what everything and everyone
else around you feels. In many ways it's much like "Jacobs Ladder" in
that respect.
The second half really however degrades into what feels like a made for
TV SciFi channel one hour series. The ending is truly awful and makes
absolutely no sense. I think my wife summed it up best when she said
"the ending didn't fit the movie whatsoever, but I liked it anyway
because it made me feel good". Yup, I likened the ending to something
you'd see in a Star Trek episode, going along interestingly enough, and
then the perfect pat ending sprouts up in the last 5 minutes and makes
everyone feel good to be human. I didn't mind the "open endedness" of
the ending so much as the total sense of non congruency once the pieces
are laid out in front of you. It's like getting to the end of the
puzzle, and instead of having missing pieces (which you can at least
fill in in your head), you have pieces left over from two other
seemingly related but different puzzles.
The acting was serviceable, with Julianne Moore turning in a
"Riplyesque" performance (whether this is good or bad depends on your
perspective) but Gary Sinise basically walks through the movie (while
bearing an eerie resemblance to Steve Jobs in the beginning). The other
actors move the plot along, but nothing worth saying anything more
about.
Oh, this movie has one of the best "jump in your seat" auto scenes
ever!
122 out of 171 people found the following review useful:
The Alternate Ending on the DVD is well worth it!, 16 January 2005
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Author:
DrJOnes666 from Canada
Instead of going into a detailed review of this movie, I would just
like to point out that the DVD of The Forgotten offers the possibility
to view the Theatrical Release or the Extended Version which contains
an alternate ending.
The Extended Version runs 8 minutes longer than the Theatrical version.
Basically, the changes consist of 2 scenes that were cut off the
Theatrical Release + the alternate ending. If you have not seen this
movie yet, GIVE YOURSELF A FAVOR and watch the EXTENDED VERSION. The
alternate ending is TOTALLY DIFFERENT and in my humble opinion a lot
more in tune with the rest of the movie. I have not seen this movie in
theaters and I decided to watch the Extended Version first. I'm glad I
did! After the viewing, I decided to check the Theatrical Ending and I
can totally understand why many people have talked negatively about the
"Hollywood Ending" of The Forgotten. The Extended Version fixes that
very well. I cannot understand why this was not the version showed in
theaters.
All in all: good acting, good story - 8/10.
95 out of 149 people found the following review useful:
You must remember this, 20 February 2005
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Author:
Brandt Sponseller from New York City
Telly Paretta (Julianne Moore) is mourning the loss of her son to a
plane crash 14 months ago. One day a couple small memory-related
oddities occur. First she forgets where she parked her car. Later, she
swears she was just drinking a cup of coffee but her psychiatrist says
she wasn't. Soon, this snowballs and her memory of her son is even
challenged. First her husband, then her psychiatrist, then friends say
she never had a son. As if that's not bad enough, she ends up in
trouble with the police. Is Telly going crazy, or is something more
sinister afoot?
I'm a sucker for stories that throw the main character into some
extremely alienating situation where they have to spend most of there
time trying to figure out what's going on. Films such as Vertigo
(1958), The Matrix (1999), Cube (1997), Saw (2004)--heck, even that
television show "John Doe" (2002)are all gems for me. So I was a prime
candidate for loving The Forgotten.
Gerald Di Pego's script is stimulating for switching the usual device
of amnesia around--instead of a protagonist who can't figure out who
they are or how they got somewhere, we have a protagonist who swears
they know exactly who they and who their family and friends are, it's
just that the relevant other characters can not seem to remember.
The crux of the film is an ever-tightening tension as Telly first works
to gain allies, then works with them to solve the mystery. Director
Joseph Rubin is excellent with straightforward thriller/mystery
material, and shows off extra chops with some of the most memorable
"shock" scenes I've come across in a long time. There is an amazingly
paced car crash that is sure to jolt most viewers. There is another
incident with a car and a person that wonderfully puts the viewer off
balance while giving them a clue to the mystery. Some characters are
absconded in a bizarre and disturbing way. Rubin also takes clichéd
thriller climax material and gives it a fun new spin as he plays with
character's powers and reality.
It might throw some viewers off that The Forgotten is just as much a
sci-fi film as a thriller. It firmly veers into X-Files territory--much
more strongly than you'd ever expect from the first half of the film.
This is yet another great example of why it's better to approach films
with zero preconceptions/expectations if possible. There is also a
romance subplot that always remains visible, but relatively far below
the surface. On these more conspicuous levels, The Forgotten is an
excellent, enthralling yarn, as long as viewers have a taste for
fantasy.
Equally interesting, though, are the more subtextual readings of the
film. Di Pego and Rubin have poignant things to say about the nature of
memory and its effects on beliefs and behavior. The past doesn't exist
substantially; it isn't "alive". Only attentiveness and present
intentionality can keep the past alive. It can disappear in a wisp,
perhaps never to be regained, the moment that attentiveness and
intentionality are gone. Ultimately, the film suggests a balance
between obsessively keeping the past alive, which can void the present
and even precipitate other dangers (this is even stronger in the
alternate ending available on the DVD), and fatalistically taking the
fact that the past doesn't exist substantially as a cue to completely
neglect it. In the dénouement of The Forgotten, such a balance is
rewarded, and leads to hope for the present and future while
maintaining a reasoned embrace of the past.
34 out of 46 people found the following review useful:
The Alternate Ending Saves the Story, 24 June 2005
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Author:
Claudio Carvalho from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
*** This review may contain spoilers ***
Telly Paretta (Julianne Moore) is a mother who can not forget her nine
years son Sam, who died in a plane crash. When the memory of Sam is
erased from the persons close to her, Telly investigates and finds Ash
Correll (Dominic West), a father who misses his daughter, who died in
the same accident. A further investigation of them shows a kind of
conspiracy with a surprising conclusion.
"The Forgotten" is a good thriller, which recalls X-Files, but the
theatrical conclusion is horrible. I was very disappointed with the
last fifteen minutes, but the alternate ending in the DVD is better and
better and saves the story. I am suspicious to write about the
wonderful Julianne Moore, since I am a great fan of her, but she has
another excellent performance. It is amazing how beautiful and talented
this actress is. The cinematography is excellent, the effects are
sometimes very scary and I enjoyed this movie. I could be better with
some improvements in the screenplay, but anyway I recommend it to fans
of X-Files. My vote is seven.
Title (Brazil): "Os Esquecidos" ("The Forgotten")
39 out of 56 people found the following review useful:
Massive Spoilers, 10 December 2004
Author:
craigdunc from Australia
*** This review may contain spoilers ***
This movie deserves a little defending. It's not a classic, but I can't
believe how many people are not looking at what we are presented with.
I'm afraid I make no attempt to avoid spoilers, so be warned.
In the first 20 minutes of the movie we are set up with an interesting
story of a woman who is paramnesic, who creates her own memories from
fantasies. But as she gets better, she is losing those false memories,
and to her it feels as if she is forgetting, or as if someone is
stealing away her memories.
It is not spelled out completely, but we know she's wrong a lot. She
thinks she remembers parking her car where it isn't, she thinks she
remembers putting a pen in her bag that isn't there. Reality is clearly
a problem. And then she's confronted with what her condition is, and
faced with institutionalisation because she can't come to terms with
it.
Thereafter she has a complete break with reality, and she enters into a
complete fantasy world involving 'Ash' who correlates her story, 'Ash
Correl', a chimera called 'Sheemer', her quest after thin air and a
company called 'Quest Air', all created in the style of the X-files,
parroting TV. Our heroine's name is Telly Parrota.
We are warned against how the condition works - when Telly remembers,
she adds to the memories, they get longer, more detailed. And this is
what drives forward the plot as she enters deeper into her fantasy.
Every time she dreams, she re-remembers the last time she saw her son,
and the sequence gets longer. She adds new clues that propel her on her
journey. She wakes up in a panic and running. It all comes from her
dreams.
Like the Matrix series, this movie doesn't explain itself. Like those
movies, the character names, costume colours and visual symbols are
clues to what's going on. In The Forgotten, we see circles
over-obviously placed on screen to indicate (perhaps) the circular trap
of her mind, certainly the circles the plot is going in. If you see a
big circle on the screen, expect another turn in her psychosis.
Not convinced? The 'aliens' have no spaceships or technology, rather it
seems they operate out of the moon, which sucks people out of your life
like a scary hand of god - the very feeling of her recovery snatching
away 'memories', snatching away her family and friends. You are aware
of the aliens because of chattering whispering voices.
The movie underlines how this modern mythology of paranoid conspiracy
theories and alien abductions has strong psychological side.
Her psychiatrist enters back into things and plays along, 'cooperating'
with the aliens. At last she meets the alien, actually a
hypnotherapy's, who offers her her last chance to come back and lead a
normal life in the real world. In a very suggestible state, he helps
her erase that first false memory, upon which everything was built, the
memory of the birth of her son, actually miscarried. But the emotional
connection to her fantasy world is too strong. Even if her son was
never born, never existed as that little boy, the life was in her, she
affirms. Her emotional attachment is too strong for logic to make any
inroads - the doctors give up, and she is left in the happiness of her
psychosis, a tragedy of a kind. But would she be happier in the real
world?
63 out of 106 people found the following review useful:
Finally, a thriller in 2004 that delivers, 23 September 2004
Author:
(themoviemark@themoviemark.com)
Now THIS is what I want from a thriller. I had high hopes for this
movie, and for the most part it delivers. The story grabs you from the
start, and what I like is that nothing is revealed too soon. The movie
pulls you along and keeps things nice and subtle until BAM it hits you
with an uppercut. The pace smooths out and then WHAM, a right hook to
the jaw. Pretty much the same method my mom used to employ to keep me
on my toes.
The big mystery surrounds Telly's son. She clearly remembers him, and
she has a difficult time dealing with his apparent death. About a year
ago, he boarded a plane that was bound for camp, but the plane was
never heard from again. Soon, all evidence of her son's existence
begins to disappear. His image has vanished from a picture, photo
albums are now empty, and a home video shows nothing but static.
Is somebody trying to mess with Telly's memory? Is her husband
(Edwards) in on it? What is her shrink's involvement? Is she crazy, or
is it everybody else around her who's lost it? Has Anthony Edwards
started to regret leaving ER yet? Or am I confusing him with Julianna
Margulies?
When Telly meets up with Ash Correll (West), she realizes that he's
forgotten about his daughter, who was also on the plane with her son.
It's at this point she's convinced that she isn't crazy, so she seeks
to find out exactly what is going on. I love how the characters don't
know who they can trust, and neither does the audience. Even characters
who are attempting to help must be looked at with suspicion. You are to
question everybody at all times!
The acting is very solid. You won't find my name in any Julianne Moore
fan clubs (although I was once a member of the Bon Jovi Secret
Society), but I have to admit she does a very good job here. And I'd
never seen Dominic West before (because I typically avoid snoozers such
as Mona Lisa Smile like Richard Simmons avoids women), but I thought he
was great. Both characters react in situations exactly like you want
them to. They're two distraught parents trying to find out what
happened to their children, and they're willing to do what it takes. I
don't want to spoil anything, so I'll leave it at that.
I definitely recommend you see this at the theater because there are
two jump scenes that quite simply have to be seen on the big screen and
heard with the best sound system possible. I'm talking two of the
better jump scenes I've seen in a while. Stephanie doesn't jump much
(even at times when I'm hoppin' like a giddy school girl), but she was
even jolted out of her seat. Well, she didn't literally go flying out
of her seat like a circus freak, but you know what I mean. One of the
scenes caused her to jump and clench my arm. Poor thing hurt her hand
on my bicep though.
Comparisons to The X-Files and The Twilight Zone are accurate, but
don't listen to the movie snobs claiming it feels like a "mediocre"
episode of one of the two. Keep in mind, this isn't the kind of
thriller that will have you trying to figure out the plot for days
afterward. It's not gonna make you think like Memento, and it's not
gonna shock you or disturb you like The Butterfly Effect. It's simply
gonna keep you guessing and entertained.
THE GIST
The Forgotten is a solid thriller that delivers a good mystery and some
of the best jump scenes I've seen in a while. If you wanna cause
yourself heartache and nitpick over some minor plot holes, then go
ahead and be a little curmudgeon. But what's the point? Allow yourself
to be entertained for an hour and a half. It won't hurt. This is a very
good date movie, but guys, do a few reps beforehand because your gal
might be grabbing your arm quite a bit, and it's best if that's not an
embarrassing situation for you.
38 out of 57 people found the following review useful:
"I believe", Scully..., 30 January 2005
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Author:
suspiria10 from The Void
Telly Paretta is seeing a shrink as therapy for losing her son in a
plane crash, only she never had a son but is convinced she had. All the
people in her life don't remember Sam including her husband. When she
confronts the alcoholic fathers of another child from the flight they
set out to discover the truth and the truth is "out there".
Part X-Files and part Lifetime movie of the week, "The Forgotten" seems
to really channel Chris Carter's hit TV show, look it even has a
redhead. The story is interesting and Julianne Moore's performance is
sincere but you can't help but think that something is missing. The
clever twist is good but they could have easily expanded the storyline
and made it more "something".
Good but not great, "The Forgotten" seems to lack its own identity due
to the derivative nature of the storyline which needed a bit of
assistance from Fox Mulder.
54 out of 91 people found the following review useful:
Forgettable, 10 October 2004
Author:
bluewavetraveler from Boone IA
*** This review may contain spoilers ***
Weak Sixth Sense rip off that gives up most of it's cards way too early in the game and just leaves you cold right after it's all said and done. Julianne Moore is such a class act that you don't mind taking the familiar trip with her but at the end, you end up more and less at the same place at where you started. The scenes of people flying in and out of the air is really cool in terms of special effects but the reason for it once you find out is kind of a cop out and very far fetch. The whole conspiracy angle that it tries to play also does not fit the context of the story and ends up confusing more than adding to the story. I will give this movie high marks for the game performances of Julianne Moore, Gary Sinise, Anthony Edwards and Christopher Kovaleski but it's too bad that they did not have a script to support their talent.
31 out of 47 people found the following review useful:
Lost in Brooklyn, 7 August 2005
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Author:
jotix100 from New York
"The Forgotten" is a film that has provoked quite a number of comments
to this forum. Never saw it in its commercial run, but we caught it on
cable a few nights ago. The film, as directed by Joseph Ruben, and
based on Gerard Di Pego's screen treatment has the feeling of a long
Sci-Fi channel offering, or maybe an extended "X Files" episode.
The exposition and prologue to the story are excellent. We watch as a
disconsolate mother, Telly Paretta, deals with the possible death of
her son Sam, who she last saw boarding a flight, in the company of
other children on his way to camp. There are indications that an
accident occurred, judging by newspapers clippings Telly has in her
hands. She has kept Sam's room as it was when he was alive.
Terry, on the other hand is being told by her psychiatrist that she is
delusional. Sam never existed; Sam is a product of her imagination.
Yet, Telly never lets go. She continues her search for the young son,
but suddenly she is being persecuted by secret service men who want to
put a stop to whatever she claims. Telly pays a visit to Ash, who is a
father whose daughter was also in the ill fated flight, but she finds a
drunk man, slowly killing himself with alcohol. Telly discovers a wall
in his apartment that has been wall papered over, but it's clear the
daughter painted the walls underneath the paper at one time.
Thus begins the quest in which Telly and Ash embark in their search for
the truth. Little do they know what they have gotten into. The director
takes us on a ride, that at times, makes a lot of sense, but then, we
start questioning what we are seeing. The film is by no means a bad
one, it's just the resolution that seems not to make much sense at all,
unless we buy the twists and turns that Mr. Di Pego has concocted for
us.
Joanne Moore makes an interesting choice for Telly. Ms. Moore, one of
our best actress working in films today, is a beautiful presence that
makes a credible woman that will not stop until she finds out what
happened to her young son. Dominic West, as Ash, is also up to task.
Both actors do great work together. The solid supporting cast is also
interesting, Gary Sinise, Alfre Woodard, Anthony Edwards and the
excellent Linus Roache, who alas, doesn't have anything to do in the
film, with the exception of appearing out of nowhere, every now and
then.
This is a film for Sci-Fi fans. They certainly will find more in it
than the average viewer. The direction by Mr. Ruben is inspired and the
different Brooklyn and New York area locations make a good background
to the story. James Horner's music score is eerie and compliments the
film, as well as the cinematography by Anastas Michos.
12 out of 14 people found the following review useful:
Neither nowt nor summat, 13 July 2007
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Author:
Neil Welch from United Kingdom
This film badly needed to make up its mind what it was - an urban
paranoia thriller, with Mrs Joe Public up against the combined might of
the establishment machine, or an alien abduction sci-fi thriller. By
greedily going for the have-your-cake-and-eat-it plan of trying it be
both at once, it spectacularly failed to be either, and fell
comprehensively between two stools.
The urban paranoia aspect, which was smouldering away quite nicely, had
a bucket of water thrown over it as soon as the alien connection put in
an appearance.
The sci-fi aspect - neat sequence where the lady detective was snatched
into the sky - was never fully developed.
So many plot holes. So little explanation - and by gum, some
explanation was needed (but not forthcoming) by the time it was over.
Disappointing drivel.
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