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18 out of 30 people found the following review useful:
Must-see eye-opener - DISREGARD DANILA and MAXCOTTLE'S TOMFOOLERY, 14 July 2006
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Author:
jessie_shin from United States
We don't really know the true extent of the atrocities occurring in
North Korea but this undercover footage shot secretly by a North Korean
citizen certainly offers strong insight. This man is risking execution
to expose the inhuman state that most of his countrymen are living in
and I commend his courage and hopefully, this will open the eyes of
prosperous Western powers to intervene.
Previous commenter Danila was apparently insulted by this documentary,
although not sure why. She seems certain that it's manipulative
propaganda - propaganda for what? Helping starving orphans? If so, why
is that wrong? Does she believe that these are child actors so
brilliant that they can fake gaunt faces, hair-turned-white from
malnutrition, and weakness from hunger so great that they can barely
speak? Unless she is an expatriate of DPRK or spawn of Kim Jong Il
himself, Danila is in no position to dispute this documentary's
authenticity. She keeps searching for additional "evidence" to support
the footage but I'm not sure what misled her into thinking DPRK was not
a highly secretive COMMUNIST state but more like SHARK ATTACK on
Discovery Channel with a wealth of concrete documentation available.
As a UCLA grad with a B.A. in English, I'm surprisingly at a loss for
words to appropriately describe her hateful commentary other than -
RETARDED. She must also believe that the Holocaust never happened and
it is naive, ignorant, close-minded people like Danila that are the
most dangerous because they stand in the way of reform and relief.
Danila has formed extremely strong opinions despite the fact that she
is no expert on the subject matter. No one knows for sure what's going
on in DPRK, certainly not Danila, but if it was all going so swimmingly
well, why are they not broadcasting their success and well-being to the
rest of the world as propaganda to prove that communism is superior to
democracy? She obviously does not live in the DPRK so is in no position
to challenge the documentary.
CHILDREN OF THE SECRET STATE demonstrates that the people of the DPRK
are oppressed and poverty-stricken. If Danila doesn't want to help the
people of the DPRK, she doesn't have to, but I beg her, don't hinder
the efforts of others who may.
9 out of 15 people found the following review useful:
Why don't you live in North Korea if you think the place is so great Danila?, 11 February 2007
Author:
mucahid from holland
I've seen this shocking documentary and it was even more shocking for
me to see the review of Danila. How much evidence do you want to see
that North Korea has a really bad regime? I've written a scientific
paper in Dutch about the situation in North Korea and of course I've
read a lot of resources about this subject. They all conclude one
thing: North Korean regime is really cruel to it's non-elite citizens.
Saying that North Korea isn't really that bad, is like suggesting there
is a worldwide com-plot of countries, scientist, NGO'S etc against
North Korea. Well, why does the world want that? The documentary is
really good and a real eye-opener. Yes of course other countries also
have their problems, but we know these problems and started several
projects to vanish them. In North Korea the future seems really
depressing, because the country is in complete isolation.
Well Danila, I don't know if you are a naive communist, a indoctrinated
(elite) citizen of North Korea or just the village idiot. If you think
this movie is pure propaganda, why don't you move to North Korea (or
just stay there)?
1 out of 1 people found the following review useful:
Danila Medvedev is completely wrong. Please remove your ignorant comment., 22 November 2010
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Author:
hiroid from Canada
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hey Danila Medvedev. You are kidding, right?? I grew up in communist
Romania (Before 1990) and let me tell you, what you see in this
documentary is really not that far fetched. You may find it hard to
believe but, yes they would build a whole "model" fake city and let the
rest of the country starve. And good luck finding "evidence" and
"supporting facts". Like everyone else has already said, North Korea
has a an extremely secretive, mind manipulative, brain washing
government. And I mean that to the extreme! By the way, have you ever
been able to find a map of North Korea with detailed labels of Road
names and cities? Just take a look on Google Maps or Bing or any other
map service. The place is a BLACK HOLE on earth. Very little
information comes out of there.
Seriously, I request that you remove your review, because it is
embarrassing you more than make you look smart.
4 out of 19 people found the following review useful:
Blatant, Unashamed Propaganda, 26 November 2006
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Author:
maxcottle-1 from United Kingdom
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I agree with Danila This is pure propaganda. I don't say that there are
not poor homeless orphans in NK. but there are many all over the world.
England and the US included.
I have seen starving children on TV many a time various adverts for
Oxfam or whichever charity, news reports etc, these children in the
documentary may have been poor and may have been hungry but
comparatively they didn't look to me like they were starving.
It's funny how come we don't see documentaries about Indian or
Pakistani children who are maimed by their parents so that they can
earn more money begging.
I don't doubt that NK has it's problems but I am suspicious of the
motives for this film. NK has been named as one of the countries on the
so called Axis of Evil, think back to before 9/11 how many
documentary's or programs did you see about the evil Arab and how they
treated their women etc? Very few I suspect, but since 9/11 the
channels have been awash with them.
The reason for this is to demonize the enemy.
Just think about the film, at any point were we given any proof to back
up what the film maker was saying? No, we were lead down a path whilst
he played on our emotions and told us what conclusions we should draw
from he film.
This was a film worthy of the fox network whilst advertising it's
reporting as fair and balanced it is in fact as far as it is possible
to be from that description, it is a vehicle for propaganda and so was
this film.
I have no reason to favour NK, Iraq, Iran or any of these places.
Although in my opinion the so called Axis of Evil States are Far less
Dangerous than My own Country (UK) and the USA with the current
leadership. The point I am trying to make is that I find it offensive
when I am spoon fed opinions in the guise of fact.
I don't write this to offend but I wanted to offer Danila some support
here, she is right.
there are many programmes on TV that don't even try and hide the fact
that they are vehicle for propaganda remember the show Threat Matrix? I
mean..COME ON!
6 out of 37 people found the following review useful:
Propaganda, psyops, information warfare, that's what this film is about, 13 October 2005
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Author:
Danila Medvedev
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This review present an analysis of some of the scenes of the film. My conclusion is that this film is an attempt at manipulating the viewer to believe that North Korea is a horrible place, its leader Kim Jonh Il is evil, his regime is brutal and the economic system has collapsed. But a careful and impartial viewing of the film with a critical eye and constant online double-checking demonstrates that there is very little in this film that should be believed. In this film no evidence was presented, although the authors tried extremely hard to make it seem as if such evidence was in fact shown. And I have no doubt that most viewers believed that it was. The film starts with the video of hungry child orphans (still, apparently looking healthy enough) that is going to shock everyone, especially combined with the matter-of-fact narrative. Claim that 3 million people died from hunger. Another claim that UNICEF estimated there are 200000 orphans in the country (BTW, don't trust all statistics about orphans, lies and manipulations are an ever present danger. It's awfully hard to find data on orphans in the US, but it appears to me from the data here that the number of children without parents as a percentage of general population is about the same in the US - about 1%. The population of the North Korea is 23 million, BTW, the population growth rate in 2005 was 0.9% (0.38% in South Korea), life expectancy 71.73 years (75.82 in SK) and infant mortality 24 deaths/1000 live births (7 in SK). While we are at it, the literacy rate is 99% (compared with 97.9% in SK) Everyone is shocked, that's expected, even I am. However, I start to think what they are trying to say, whether I am being manipulated and how this agrees with other things I know. OK, we move into the capital. The presenters are trying to make a ridiculous point by implication. They present the images as if the whole capital is essentially fake and everyone else lives in poverty and hunger in secret towns. Well, to begin with, that doesn't make any sense. Why would the North Korean government want that? Do they really care that much about impressing foreign journalists who manage to enter the country despite the apparent restrictions? That doesn't make sense (they actually restrict foreign journalists from visiting). Then every image is twisted as the presenters need. There is no one in the street in the middle of the day. Well, of course, there is no one - everyone is working. The hotel is empty, because it was designed and built in a different time, but it turned out to be a mistake and there aren't many foreign tourists today. There aren't many cars, because cars are too expensive, not very efficient and North Korea is short on fuel. All this somehow proves that North Korea is bad. The fact that they are well fed is somehow a proof of how evil and corrupt the regime is. Supposedly, one can't find such a stark contrast in the US, no way. Filming a dinner in an expensive Manhattan restaurant and some child suffering from hunger (there are millions of those in the US) doesn't enter the minds of the journalists. Then we hear some unsubstantiated claims that all well-fed children rehearsing for the parade are the children of the elite. How do they know it? Of course, the American viewer is unlikely to question the words of the journalists. Then the Children's Palace. Here even the fact that there are apparently some children who are not hungry presented as an evil deed of the Dear Leader. He is told to have "decided to favour these children". I wonder if the journalists have any ideas of why exactly did he make this decision. Does he have anything against those other, hungry children? Does he have an evil plan? The journalist is near the Chinese border. He is allowed to drive there in a car and he has to exaggerate the dangers. If they spend too much time in one place, they may be interrogated by the police. Well, try to spend too much time in one place next to the Mexican border. I bet you would be interrogated by the police as well. It's illegal to film at the border (like in many other countries), but the brave fighters for freedom managed to do it. Apparently, they filmed some border guards, who appear to be guarding the border. Clearly, that is some evil North Korean plot. Is it possible that they are looking for possible violators, who intend to cross the border illegally? Well, I am sure no civilized nation would ever do such a thing. Certainly not the United States... Well, pardon me my sarcasm, but insinuations are everything. It is possible to film perfectly legitimate activities, but if they are in North Korea, they suddenly become menacing, dark and evil. Such as border guards hiding in bunkers. Then we get a lie about refugees facing execution after being returned from China to North Korea. There is no evidence, just hearsay. Signs such as "Never help an illegal alien" are presented as something horribly wrong, even though (no sarcasm this time) most countries have some regulations against illegal aliens and helping illegal aliens is a misdemeanour in many countries as well (North Koreans are facing a fine, which, supposedly, is horrible). And so on and so forth. There is a 1000 word comment limit, so I'll stop here.
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