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7 out of 8 people found the following review useful:
Quick, witty, catchy but also unemotional and flat., 25 September 2003
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Author:
Merman from Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Sex sells. That is something Dutch author Ronald Giphart is very well
aware
of. This was evident in the first filmed novel by the author: 'Ik Ook Van
Jou' but even more in 'Phileine Zegt Sorry' (Phileine Says
Sorry).
The original novel is hilarious, quick, witty, from a female perspective,
but written by a heterosexual male author. The novel is full of quick
one-liners and so is this move ('I believe in sex at first sight' and 'We
don't care you have a low self-esteem, just don't bother us with
it').
The thing is a quite weak story as 'Phileine' demands a quick witty
approach, which Robert-Jan Westdijk (the director) seems to be perfectly
able at. He seems to have understood what the story is all about:
Phileine,
a super-bitch, follows her boyfriend Max to New York, where she finds out
about the rather exclusive approach he's giving to Shakespeare's 'Romeo
and
Juliet'.
Although the movie is quick it has quite some flaws. Westdijk doesn't take
enough time to finish off some crucial scenes. The final scene has been
handled off quite fast and almost messy and the movie really lacks emotion
at times. Westdijk doesn't seem to wanna fall in the pit called 'false
sentiment' but in stead of carefully avoiding it he doesn't seem to use
any
of it in 'Phileine'. To be perfectly honest one wouldn't care less whether
or not Phileine regains the love of Max or how she handles it. She's a
bitch, so she'll survive and go on with her live.
Kim van Kooten however is perfectly cast and throws in the one-liners one
at
a time from scratch. Michiel Huisman may be nice to look at (all pumped
up)
but is rather disappointing as the flat character of Max. This is also due
to his rather poor acting qualities. Roeland Fernhout's part as the
androgynous Jules is unforgettable and could have used deserved more
screen
time.
The novel already makes use of too many character with their individual
story-lines that push away the main story-line: the one between Phileine
and
Max, but in the movie this gets annoying at points.
Fortunately Westdijk's quick approach makes up for a lot but not for
everything. 'Sometimes the movie is just better than the movie', says
author
Giphart in a cameo (please no more cameos in any of his movies!). I am
afraid I have to disagree with him. But then again: is the movie ever
better
than the novel?
Still 'Phileine Zegt Sorry' speeds up hope for the Dutch movie industry
(especially now that governmental finance has been abolished) and
especially
for Dutch rom-coms.
7 out of 10 people found the following review useful:
Not very special, 16 April 2004
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Author:
rbverhoef (rbverhoef@hotmail.com) from The Hague, Netherlands
Based on the popular Ducth book by Ronald Giphart, who even has a cameo
appearance to say the movie is better than his own book, 'Phileine Zegt
Sorry' ('Phileine Says Sorry') is a movie that has some pretty funny moments
but is not very special. The humor that was there in the book sometimes
works on the screen but most of the time it does not. One thing that most
people do agree on is that Kim van Kooten is the perfect Phileine, and her
performance is in the spirit of the book.
Still, some things just don't work on screen. The style of writer Giphart is
very important in his books and director Robert Jan Westdijk has tried to
translate the style to the screen. Sometimes it gives us some nice moments
but very often it fails and therefore things look strange. I think the movie
is fun enough to watch and Van Kooten is worth to see it, but just don't
expect too much.
10 out of 17 people found the following review useful:
Some books should never be turned into movies., 26 July 2005
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Author:
Boba_Fett1138 from Groningen, The Netherlands
At most times books and movies have very different styles and
completely different constructed stories. Some of the book stories and
styles simply don't translate well to the big screen. The book
"Phileine zegt sorry" written by Ronald Giphart is one of those books
that doesn't translate well to the big screen. As a movie "Phileine
zegt sorry" leaves a pointless impression. It's one of those movies
which makes you wonder after you have seen it; Why did I even watched
this in the first place?
It's pretty obvious throughout the entire movie that it's one based on
a novel. It features some typical book elements that I'm sure work well
in the book but feel completely pointless in the movie. It also has
some characters walking around in the movie that feel absolutely
pointless and serve no purpose at all. On top of that it's incredibly
irritating that most of the New York characters are played by Dutch
actors, almost as if there weren't any available actors in New York.
their American-Dutch accents are notable and at points even irritating.
The two main actors Kim van Kooten and Michiel Huisman are really great
but van Kooten couldn't prevent me from being irritated by her
character Phileine at times. Her character is over-the-top and really
pushes it at times. I would had dumped her almost immediately! but
again, this is not van Kooten's fault, she plays her character with
lots of profession and passion., simply blame the story.
Appereantly this was supposed to be a comedy but there are no real
laughs here. Also as a drama it isn't serious enough. I think this is
the main reason why this movie leaves an overall pointless impression.
The movie is just mostly about Phileine talking rudely about mainly sex
and acting like an uncontrollable young hormone filled-woman.
The movie however deserves credit for how it looks. The cinematography
by Bart Pot is most excellent, especially for the scene's in New York,
where this movie is set for about two-third of the entire movie. The
editing by Peter Alderliesten keeps the pace high. Robert Jan Westdijk
isn't an horrible director he has just been given horrible material to
work with.
I can't think of any reason why someone should ever watch this movie.
4/10
http://bobafett1138.blogspot.com/
2 out of 2 people found the following review useful:
Embarrassing, 22 September 2010
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Author:
babysixpack
Sure, I'm not a fan of Ronald Giphart's writing. I've never liked any
of his books. But I was more than willing to put that aside for a
moment and give the movie-adaption a chance.
It took me about 5 minutes to realize that this movie was going to be
bad. In retrospect, these first 5 minutes were a blessing, because a
good 20 minutes later I just wanted to die. Just to put an end to this
fever-ridden nightmare of a movie.
I'm not bothered by nudity, sex and whatever profanity at all, but if
done wrong, it just creates an empty feeling of embarrassment. Imagine
a hormonal 15-year old, saying out loud every thought that erupts from
his horny brain. That's what the 30-something Phileine (Kim v Kooten)
in this movie behaves like. I have met quite a variety of people in my
life, but I've never met anyone even remotely as horny as the people in
this movie. I cringed, seeing how this piece of crap confirms every
cliché about dutch cinema. And the worst thing? The writers/creators
seem proud if it.
Every line spoken by Phileine is 1. spoken in 200%-speed mode (this
seems to be a necessary parameter in most dutch movies for some reason)
2. loaded with a truly embarrassing wish to be funny and cute. Reminds
me of that guy on a party failing to be clever; you know what I'm
talking about. 3. meta-meta. Yep, the protagonist is looking into the
camera, speaking to you directly. In a condescending way, too. It'll
knock your socks off!
Like a previous review aptly stated: this movie has overstated and
meaningless special fx. It looks like someone just got a new Adobe
Premiere update and loves the hell out of it.
I really started laughing when I recognized dutch soap actors posing as
Americans. If their horrible acting wouldn't give them away, their big
fat dutch accents would. Like.. really?
This movie completely loves itself. I think that's my main problem with
it. It's trying to be cool, fast, fresh, funny. Kim van Kooten is an
unconvincing actress. She was supposed to be a likable bitch in this
movie and she completely failed at that. The rest? I was surprised
Michiel Huisman got a leading role in David Simon's brilliant series
"Treme". He was horrible in this movie, but then again, everyone was
horrible in this movie.
Moviebuffs in the Netherlands are having a hard time with homeland
cinema. Very rarely there's a dutch title that is any good. Phileine
Zegt Sorry redefines why we are skeptical. This is lesson-material. I'm
going out of my way and vote 1/10 for this, just on a mission to bring
that rating down. Wish I wouldn't have to.
2 out of 2 people found the following review useful:
When in New York...., 1 March 2009
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Author:
Martin Lewison (milst1) from Den Haag, The Netherlands
*** This review may contain spoilers ***
I think I'm the first American to comment on this film. I live in Den
Haag and I picked up the DVD at Media Markt. I speak some Dutch and I'm
interested in where Dutch film is going. The DVD cover has Kim van
Kooten slung over Michiel Huisman's shoulder in NYC (my hometown) and
it says "De Nederlandse Bioscoophit" and "Winner van 4 Gouden Kalveren"
is on the back. I've heard of author Ronald Giphart and I've always
wanted to see "Zusje", which never got much distribution back in the
States. So here was my chance to have it all.
I agree with a lot of comments on here already. The film is too cutesy
for its own good and Phileine's talking directly to the camera is the
kind of device that's been used in American TV for at least the last 10
years, so it seems old and cliché. Yes, I thought the film was very
sexy and it's too bad I'm not 16 years old anymore. I can see why van
Kooten is something of a star, but her face is too mature and her
bearing is too sophisticated to play a 20-something wild woman. I hope
she's getting better roles than this one.
I haven't read the book, but the Phileine character is extremely
unsympathetic. You don't really care if she's unhappy b/c she's such a
bitch. She's just pushy and mean and it's hard to believe her heart is
broken by Max's rejection. What kind of person screams in a theater
during a play, or steals the stage at an AIDS benefit to send a message
to her bf? Someone who is entirely too self-absorbed, that's who.
And so much for U.S.-Dutch relations. Phileine speaks a lot of Dutch
when she's in New York, even in direct response to English
conversation. The natives haven't spoken Dutch in Manhattan for a long
time. I understand why this is in here, because the audience is mainly
Dutch, but it comes off as very nasty. Maybe that's the point, I guess.
I know a few mean and nasty Dutch girls and there is a certain charm.
And yes, some American men can be assholes, but I don't think it's
because they're American.
And for the filmmaker: If you have American characters, use American
actors. I can hear a Dutch accent a mile away and it destroys the
illusion. It happened about 10 times in this film it really put me off.
I guess I paid about 7 or so. I don't feel ripped off, but I need to
watch the director's commentary to get my money's worth.
Thanks for putting English subtitles on this DVD!
5 out of 8 people found the following review useful:
Phileine says: sorry, well Westdijk should say that too, 8 November 2003
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Author:
stamper from The Netherlands
This film is rather absurd and weird at times, having opposite effects. At
some moments the absurdness of the film, works in it's favor and at other
moments it clearly does not. The introduction sequence, for instance, which
at first seems to be an homage to James Bond, quickly becomes strange (maybe
unappetizing) for many people and if you ask me, there is no sense in that
scene with the oldies' whatsoever. Another perfect example is the scene in
which Phileine is in outer space dancing' to some music. This scene does
make a bit more sense than the one described before, but is just too lengthy
as are other scenes in the film and as a matter of fact, the ending as well.
But no feat, not everything is bad in this film. The film is pretty good,
until Phileine (Kim van Kooten) meets Joanne (Leona Philippo). From that
point on there appear the first signs of weakness, the mentioned lengthy and
sometimes unnecessary scenes. From that point on the film manages to go on
on a pretty good level, but I found it to be less than the first bit and the
film actually hits rock-bottom in it's end, which is way too lengthy. If it
wouldn't have been for the screamer' ending, this one would have gotten a 7
out of 10. But the way it is it does not deserve it. Sure the film delivers
some laughs, sure there is a lot of female sex talk, but in the end it is
only moderately enjoyable, due to the unsatisfying ending that remains in
mind. Even females, who are in fact the target audience, should see
that.
6,75 out of 10
PS: At least it COULD have been better
7 out of 12 people found the following review useful:
Better than most Dutch movies, 4 November 2005
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Author:
missfruztiez from Netherlands
Well, I have to admit that I (like most of the people from Holland)
think most of the Dutch movies are plain bad. Seriously. Most of the
time, I even got a good reason for that because most Dutch movies are
bad. But it wouldn't be fair if I'd call this movie bad.
Phileine zegt sorry is a very good movie to Dutch standards. OK, Ronald
Giphart is definitely not the most literal Dutch writer and he really
overuses sex in his books, but isn't that typical for Dutch writers? In
fact, aren't Dutch movies known for that too? Turkish Delight is a good
Dutch movie, yet has a lot of sex in it. Oh well, I think I should tell
you what makes me like this movie, not what makes it less bad.
I think Kim van Kooten is great as Phileine. OK, she might overdo the
bitchiness sometimes, but most of the time the girl's just good. She
has a good timing for one-liners and even though even I (as a 16 year
old... No, we're not brainless) think Ronald Giphart overuses cursing
in his books, Kim van Kooten makes Phileine enjoyable to look at and
listen to.
I really like the movie's soundtrack, as, throughout the movie, it just
seems to fit in the place where it is.
I like a lot of the scenes in the movie, as I think there's enough
emotion in it to make it an enjoyable movie. Yes, call me crazy, but I
thought the end-scene was very emotional. This might be because I'm
still young and I have no life-experience whatsoever, or something, but
just because I'm a teenager doesn't mean I'm emotionless.
But there are some bad points in the movie too. For example, the dutch
actors that pretend to be American. Bad English or American accents in
a movie really irritate me, and because a lot of Dutch people don't
have a perfect English accent I don't think they should be portrayed as
English or American. I found this especially annoying in Kenan Raven's
case. But then again, I think Kenan Raven is annoying to begin with.
His face looks completely emotionless to me.
I thought some scenes in the movie were pointless. For example, you had
Gulpje and the guy from the restaurant. The whole restaurant scene was
rather pointless, just like a few other scenes.
But I liked most of the movie. I don't think everyone will like it as
it's dutch and therefore a bit sexistic, but I do recommend it to
people my age.
7/10.
7 out of 12 people found the following review useful:
Phileine charms her way through love, 17 October 2003
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Author:
Peltos from Utrecht
Too little depth, too bad. Following the book by Ronald Giphart word for word, this movie doesn't have much to say. It doesn't fascinate the viewer, it's just another love story that has been tried to make interesting by making the main character talk into the camera in the middle of some scenes. Makes you remember Saved by the bell and Ally McBeal. The Lead-role is played by Kim van Kooten, and if you like brunettes you'll probably like her. Good for you because the sex-scenes could make up for lack of story / plot-line. She ends up saying she's sorry for all the things she's done, big deal. This scene (which should be the climax of the movie) doesn't seem to express it's importance to the viewer. An average movie that has some humorous scenes in it and Kim van Kooten is a very attractive woman ;)
1 out of 1 people found the following review useful:
Worthwhile if you like foreign films with lots of skin, 29 June 2007
Author:
bribabylk from United States
*** This review may contain spoilers ***
The film is mainly interesting for being a Dutch production that spends
a lot of time in the U.S., in New York City. Other than that, the story
isn't really that deep or involving, and often it can be an effort to
like the title character.
However, on the plus side, you have the actor Michiel Huisman, who
plays the boyfriend Philene follows to America to "check up on"
(stalk); the movie is very generous with the male nudity, and you get
to see lots of him in the raw, front and back. He's a little skinny,
but his nice rear end is a treat to look at and helps while away a few
minutes of the movie. Thank goodness for foreign films!
9 out of 17 people found the following review useful:
The director should say sorry!, 16 July 2004
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Author:
tweaktubbie from Netherlands
Genre: Drama / Comedy / Romance.
This is what IMDB says. It's a drama to see that it isn't a comedy and
you'll probably get romantic with the audience, since watching the screen
will ruin one and a half hour of your life.
As Dutchman I mostly feel embarrased with the typical Dutch movies of the
last decades. Swearing, sex and agression, preferably a book converted to a
movie. Here it's the same.
For those of you who know BNN, the Dutch broadcasting organisation that has
a trademark for rudeness, dumb&dumberness and programmes full of sex and
swearing: yes, this movie has its trademark all over it.
The actress Kim is overacting as a bitch and the story is so dumb that I
really can't believe the hype when it was released.
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