When Louis Met... Ann Widdecombe (2002 TV Movie)
Louis Theroux: Self - Presenter
Quotes
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Louis Theroux : You're unusual in many respects... you're an outspoken, prominent politician, but you're also a single woman of a certain age who's expressed, um, you've said that you don't think you'll ever get married, you've said you're a virgin...
Ann Widdecombe : Uh, no, I haven't, people ask impertinent questions and they make their own deducations but I always tell people to mind their own business.
Louis Theroux : Do you? I read a quote last night that said "If anyone says I'm not a virgin, I'll sue them."
Ann Widdecombe : As I've said, and I'm not going to go any further than I've just gone, I don't regard it as anybody else's business.
Louis Theroux : Hmm. Well, I'll winkle away at that one.
Ann Widdecombe : Well, I was actually told you would not, when we had the discussion.
Louis Theroux : By Kate?
Ann Widdecombe : Yes.
Louis Theroux : Don't believe anything she says.
Ann Widdecombe : Well, I said that I wouldn't agree to the documentary it was going to be along those sorts of lines because...
Louis Theroux : OK - no, no I'll keep it...
Ann Widdecombe : Bluntly, I regard it as an impertinence.
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Louis Theroux : [admiring Ann's cat] You have an internet site where you've written a poem about your cats?
Ann Widdecombe : I have indeed - 'Goodness gracious, what is that? It's Mr. Pugwash my black cat. Goodness gracious, are there others? Yes indeed, my cat Carruthers'.
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Louis Theroux : [At Ann's house in London] Have we got time for a very quick tour, then?
Ann Widdecombe : Um... well it depends what you want to tour. I don't let anybody go upstairs.
Louis Theroux : Why not?
Ann Widdecombe : Because I never do. I always say downstairs is where I invite people, it's where I invite all my friends, upstairs is where my mother and I live.
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Louis Theroux : [voiceover] Ann was at the hairdresser's. Having said she would never get a makeover, Ann was about to go for a completely new look.
Louis Theroux : Who calls the shots, basiscally?
Nicky : Ann does.
Ann Widdecombe : The customer says what the customer wants.
Louis Theroux : Because you have come into some criticism for your hair?
Ann Widdecombe : Have I now?
Louis Theroux : Yes.
Ann Widdecombe : There you go Nicky, he's being rude about your...
Louis Theroux : Nicky, is that being rude? Am I being rude to you by saying that?
Ann Widdecombe : Yes - Say yes, Nicky, say yes.
Nicky : Yes, you are, I suppose.
Ann Widdecombe : Well done. Well done.
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Louis Theroux : [Louis is slightly hungover from a friend's wedding the night before] Ooo, I think my headache's starting to lift. What a relief.
Ann Widdecombe : What sort of a wedding was it?
Louis Theroux : Well it was a normal wedding, I don't know. I thought I did quite well only having the one bottle of wine.
Ann Widdecombe : Did you have the awful tradition of a disco afterwards?
Louis Theroux : Yeah. Oh, it was nice.
Ann Widdecombe : I hate that.
Louis Theroux : Why?
Ann Widdecombe : Uh... I prefer the wedding where you have the service, you have the reception and then the couple go away.
Louis Theroux : You've explained how you like it, you didn't explain why you don't like the disco?
Ann Widdecombe : I don't think I have to have why's behind everything and deep reasons as though it's a piece of philosophy. It happens to be a like or a dislike. I don't think I have to explain why I like potato.
Louis Theroux : So you don't know why?
Ann Widdecombe : Or why I don't like liver. Stop turning everything into a confrontation, Louis Theroux.
Louis Theroux : Maybe if it were different music? Slightly more formal music, would that help? Sort of waltzes?
Ann Widdecombe : No. No, that wouldn't help at all, that's not the issue.
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[At Ann Widdecombe's office in the Houses of Parliament, Louis meets her secretary Gloria, who used manage rock stars like Debbie Harry, the Ramones and the B-52s]
Louis Theroux : Of the rock stars that you've handled, is there any of those that Ann most closely resembles?
[Ann laughs out loud]
Ann Widdecombe : I'm going to say at this point I'm going to take them into my room, come on folks.
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Louis Theroux : You're not as tall as I was expecting.
Ann Widdecombe : Five foot one and a half, and don't forget the half.
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Louis Theroux : [looking at a photograph on the wall of Ann's constituency home] Now here's the younger Ann Widdecombe meeting Mrs Thatcher, is it? What was the occasion?
Ann Widdecombe : It was Women and Families for Defence, which was a group set up to counter the Greenham Common women.
Louis Theroux : You were pro-nuclear weapons.
Ann Widdecombe : Very much so.
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Louis Theroux : [Ann is showing Louis the garden of her constituency home] Can I prevail on you to let us see the bathroom or the bedroom?
Ann Widdecombe : No.
Louis Theroux : That - I mean, can I press that point?
Ann Widdecombe : Uh, you can press it but the answer will be the same.
Louis Theroux : Will it?
Ann Widdecombe : Yeah. No, I don't, I don't open up private areas of the house to the cameras.
Louis Theroux : OK, I'm pressing it.
Ann Widdecombe : No.
Louis Theroux : I'm continuing to press.
Ann Widdecombe : You can press away but you won't get any different answer.
Louis Theroux : I would really like to see your bedroom.
Ann Widdecombe : No, I won't let anybody in my bedroom, certainly not a television camera. Come on, stop arguing, you're not going to get me to change my mind.
Louis Theroux : The bathroom?
Ann Widdecombe : No!
[scoffs]
Ann Widdecombe : What do you want to photograph the bathroom for, honestly?
[they head round the side of Ann's house]
Ann Widdecombe : Right, OK, now as we go past here, I know it's a bungalow, but you will keep your cameras away.
Louis Theroux : From the bungalow?
Ann Widdecombe : No. From any rooms which I've specified that you can't go in.
Louis Theroux : Oh, OK.
[they walk along the side of the house, Ann stands in front of a window and waves the camera crew past]
Louis Theroux : I sense it's a point of principle with you, that there's nothing in particular that you're worried that we should see...
Ann Widdecombe : No, nothing at all.
Louis Theroux : I glanced to the left.
Ann Widdecombe : That I don't mind because anybody walking past could do that.
Louis Theroux : It looked quite normal.
Ann Widdecombe : It's perfectly normal, I just don't want you filming in there, that's all.
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Louis Theroux : [In Ann's garden] Nice to be on a little hillside.
Ann Widdecombe : Yes... there is the famous Sutton Valence view which you can't get from here. But I find this quite pleasant.
Louis Theroux : And we're in Sutton Valence, aren't we?
Ann Widdecombe : Oh yes, we are. We're right in the middle of it.
Louis Theroux : Is it known for being a particularly picturesque little village?
Ann Widdecombe : Well, I think it's pictures-queue
Louis Theroux : You said what?
Ann Widdecombe : I said I think it's pictures-queue. Picturesque.
[Louis looks at her, smirking]
Ann Widdecombe : Anti-queue, pictures-queue.
[Louis isn't acknowledging her little joke]
Ann Widdecombe : Oh, dear me...
[she sighs and laughs]
Louis Theroux : You called me wet! That is a bit wet, isn't it?
Ann Widdecombe : If you say so. I don't mind. Don't mind being a bit wet.
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Louis Theroux : [after Ann talks to a man at the Kent County Agricultural Show] He had a local accent I think, did he?
Ann Widdecombe : He's Maidstone, yes.
Louis Theroux : Perhaps it was just a speech impediment.
Ann Widdecombe : Don't you be so rude about the Kentish accent!
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Louis Theroux : Did you think about getting, sort of, a makeover?
Ann Widdecombe : No, I did not, Louis.
Louis Theroux : You seem to regard that as a ludicrous question.
Ann Widdecombe : I do.
Louis Theroux : Why?
Ann Widdecombe : Why should I?
Louis Theroux : Well, because... politics is about image, isn't it? About communication?
Ann Widdecombe : No. No, it's about substance, it's about what you believe and it's about what you think should be done. That's what it's all about. That's exactly what it's all about.
Louis Theroux : But it's not in the modern world though, is it?
Ann Widdecombe : Well, tough.
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Louis Theroux : [discussing the party leadership election] I honestly felt like I sensed her kind of being marginalised in the last couple of days and then now today I feel that she's back in the middle, she's back in the throng.
Gloria - Ann's Secretary : It's rock and roll, it's battlefield conditions, same thing.
Louis Theroux : And what about Portillo? I quite like him.
Gloria - Ann's Secretary : Well, he's very charismatic.
Louis Theroux : He's got big blubbery lips.
Gloria - Ann's Secretary : Like Mike Jagger.
[she laughs]
Louis Theroux : Do you know what I mean?
Gloria - Ann's Secretary : Yeah, I do know, he's very charismatic.
Louis Theroux : He's sort of sexy, I think. Don't you think?
Gloria - Ann's Secretary : Don't even go there. Don't even go there!
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[Louis is visiting Ann and her mother Rita on a Norwegian cruise ship, they're in the living room area of their cabin]
Rita Widdecombe : [heading towards the bedroom] Shall I show you our cabin?
Louis Theroux : Is that all right with Ann?
Rita Widdecombe : Doesn't matter about Ann.
[Louis laughs]
Ann Widdecombe : Yeah - No, no, no, no. No, I don't let them ever see the bedroom. They're forbidden in both houses and here.
[Rita looks confused]
Louis Theroux : Surely the mother has the right to overrule the daughter?
Ann Widdecombe : No, you're far too inquisitive, Louis Theroux. Now, you stay there while I find the spectacles.
Rita Widdecombe : Am I allowed to go in the cabin?
[Louis and Ann's friend laugh]
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Louis Theroux : You're so busy and hard working I wonder if one of the reasons you never started a family is because you had so many ambitions.
Ann Widdecombe : Well, I've always said Mr Right didn't come along and it was never a priority to go out looking for him, so it just didn't happen.
Louis Theroux : Do you think it's too late?
Ann Widdecombe : [sighing and laughing] Oh, Louis... Honestly! You are hilarious.
Louis Theroux : What? What's happened?
Ann Widdecombe : What's too late?
Louis Theroux : To meet Mr Right?
Ann Widdecombe : I'm 53!
Louis Theroux : People get married at 80.
Ann Widdecombe : But I'm not going to.
Louis Theroux : People are generally, I mean, people are curious, aren't they?
Ann Widdecombe : Are they? I don't know.
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[Louis is saying goodbye to Ann and leaving her house in a taxi]
Louis Theroux : Do you know who that is? Ann Widdecombe.
Taxi Driver : Who's Ann Widdecombe?