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101 out of 120 people found the following review useful:
Brilliant, but not for everyone, 8 March 2003
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Author:
Onderhond from http://www.onderhond.com/archive/onderhond/category/movies
* Director
Oshii Mamuro. Known for his slow pace, attention to detail, quite
complicated storylines and his moodsetting. Always works together with
Kenji
Kawai (sound) and Ito (story). Other movies include Ghost In The Shell,
Patlabor 1/2/OAV/Minipato, Urutsei Yatsura:Beautiful Dreamer. Also
contributed to Jin-Roh and Blood. All these are worth a peek, especially
if
you like Avalon.
Strange little fact : Oshii's a total dog freak. Watch his movies
carefully.
* Story
Well, I can be short here. Set in an alternative present/future, a girl
(Ash) sets out to find a hidden level in a VR-game (Avalon). It may be a
bit
thin, but a good setup for the main theme of the movie. Besides that,
Oshii's movies were never all that story-based to begin with, as he pays
a
lot more attention to general moodsetting of his alternate realities. Oh,
and for those who claim it's too confusing, try to focus a bit. After two
viewings, most of it can be understood (minus a few little details). One
warning though. The pace is as slow as ever. Oshii is one to leave you a
lot
of time to think about certain things that happen. Some like this, most
of
you probably won't.
* Acting
Kinda hard to judge, as the movie was made in Poland, with Polish actors.
Personally, I find the acting adequate. No oscar nominations here, but
good
work from the leading actress and the guy that plays Murphy. It all
depends
on what you like. To me the charm came from the exotic language, some
will
probably find this a turn-off. The conversation is minimal and not so
important. It's just there to deliver the facts, not to explain emotions.
Comments about the coldness of Ash have nothing to do with bad acting,
but
with the character she plays (another one of Oshii's trademarks).
* Characters
Typical Oshii. A cold female in the leading role. The only time she shows
emotion is when she's in the vicinity of her dog / dogs in general.
Besides
that, she's an ice cube. Personally, I like 'em like that. The others are
interesting because of their little quirks and oddities, not because of
their background stories, emotional struggles or deeper motives. All in
all,
they're a memorable bunch, but only there because you can't make a movie
without characters.
* Themes
Every Oshii movie has it's own theme. Beautiful Dreamer was about the
boundary between dream and reality, Patlabor 1 about the relationship
between mankind and machinery and Patlabor 2 about war in general. Avalon
tries to question the boundary between reality and virtual reality, using
the first-person game genre as an ideal setup. Which world is real, which
isn't, does it actually matter and is there a way to find out what's real
and what isn't. Oshii poses all these questions, but doesn't deliver any
answers. Which, in my humble opinion, is the best way to handle it. When
a
movie does try to give you an answer (Existenz), it doesn't stimulate the
viewer to think about it afterwards. So, it all depends on what you're
looking for. You want some questions to think about, this is your movie,
you
want a quick story with cheesy moral (Existenz again),
avoid.
* Special effects
Again, the opinions here are diverse. I think it's one of the most
visually
impressive movies I've ever seen. Everything looks absolutely gorgeous,
especially when you compare the original shots with the result. But allow
me
to stretch the term SFX a bit. This isn't The Matrix with twirly, flashy,
in-your-face SFX. Instead, the first hour or so is completely reworked
with
a superb sepia-colored filter, which gives the movie a 1940 postcard
kinda
look. Besides that, the SFX are a lot more subtle. Those which are
in-your-face (like the rendered vehicles) are done nicely. I especially
liked the Citadel, and although the rendering is not perfect, the designs
are marvelous.
* Music
Oshii regular Kenji Kawai made all the songs for this film. Oshii's one
of
the last to realize the effect a good soundtrack has on a movie. And I
don't
mean finding some pop idols and putting them on a CD, but really
incorporating the songs in your movie for extra effect, and even working
the
other way around, by adjusting the images to the sound. All the songs
were
written for Avalon and vary from ambient to something close to opera.
Even
if you don't like the movie or haven't seen it yet, the soundtrack should
be
part of your CD/MP3 collection.
* General Moodsetting
Well, this is what makes the movie one of the best there is. It requires
a
special kind of taste to like it though. The characters' reality is a
bleak
and cold one, with little room for emotions, yet portrayed in such a way
that it still feels kind of warm and cosy. It's hard to explain but I
believe it's best compared with the darker side of romance. The feeling
you
get when you're sitting in front of your window, it's raining outside and
your girlfriend just left you. It's a sort of gentle comforting sadness.
He
atteigns this through the music, the sepia filter, slow pace and briliant
camera swoops/positions. One of the fears I had before I saw the movie,
was
that he wouldn't be able to capture this mood in a live action (he
normally
makes animated movies, which all have a certain style of their own to
begin
with), but he did a magnificent job. Very unique and stylish.
* Overall
I would like to say this movie has no similarities with The Matrix or
Existenz whatsoever. People who expect a movie like the afore mentioned
will
be disappointed. This is 100% Oshii. It's a bit difficult to recommend to
people who don't know him and his way of working. My advise is, try to
watch
Ghost In The Shell first. It has an easier job holding your attention (if
you like animation that is), but is still representative for his other
work.
Personally, I think this ranks among the five best movies ever. It's
refreshing, it's unique and made with passion. Hollywood fans beware,
others, try it out.
73 out of 86 people found the following review useful:
Eyes that do not see..., 28 November 2004
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Author:
SupaChupacabra from NYC
I think many of the complaints about this movie are by those that
overlook one of the most obvious statements of the movie... that day to
day life is boring & tedious, (walking hallways, taking lonely boring
train rides, feeding your dog, watching an annoying person eat) all the
while the visual world (read spiritual, artistic, visionary, higher
level, etc.) is breath-taking. None of the characters of this world are
privy to the visual poetry we are being exposed to as viewers... and
that is part of the point, they are blind to it... yet it's a reminder
that technological obsessiveness, or material obsessiveness, blinds
everyone from simple visual beauty. The lighting alone in the movie was
incredibly inventive, variations of sepia tones that went from red to
green to blue during the course of the movie... overall the lighting
and photography in the movie was amazing. You could take any given
frame of this film and have a very beautiful photograph. There is a lot
of CGI work in this movie that many nay-sayers called "low budget" and
didn't even notice. Watch at the very end of the movie how the ghost's
mouth wavers, almost like the Mona Lisa, from sad half-frown into a
smirk, and this was done in post. I'm sure many people missed very
subtle and beautiful touches like this on first viewing. If someone
were to critique it for lack of complexity, I would agree... Blade
Runner was not "deep" in the same way... but both, upon multiple
viewings, remain almost timelessly poignant while being very reflective
of when they were made, and I'm sure in 10 years this movie will seem
as striking, as Blade Runner is to me now over 20 years since it's
release. This will be one to watch over and over again every 6 months.
One caveat... the Miramax version is rubbish. The translations are
horrible and stupid. Literally you lose half the meaning of the film.
At one point Ashe is talking to the Gamemaster discussing Avalon (the
mythic island) and discussing Odin and the helmet of forgetting...
right as she puts the VR helmet on. In the Miramax version... the
Gamemaster just says "be careful it's dangerous in there"... etc. Not
even close, it's like they didn't bother even attempting a real
translation, pathetic.
66 out of 79 people found the following review useful:
Where Does The Heart Freeze Sooner? or: A Cybercar Named Desire, 14 January 2003
Author:
Ulrich Fehlauer (schogger13@t-online.de) from Lemgo / Germany
There is an interesting parallel between The Matrix and
Avalon.
The first is heavily based on Manga/Animee style, in visual dynamics much
more than in pace as well as storytelling, the latter IS an Animee movie
without the animations - in fact, Avalon is a VERY typical Oshii film in
every other aspect going.
It's slow.
It has to be.
It either bores you stiff or chains you to a subtle, incredibly intense way
of visual storytelling - takes you back to a time when the attention span as
well as the will required to catch a drift - to hold a thought and work on
it - lived longer than a few seconds.
On the surface, this movie is what one could call a cyberpunk poem. For that
alone it already claims a unique position amongst whatever one might want to
compare it to at first glance. A chillingly dark and detailed as well as
beautifully crafted ballad of a heroine seeking much more than sense between
realities and illusions. She seeks the home we all desperately try to cling
to in belief for lack of knowledge.
As always in Oshii's movies, one has to be prepared to be drawn into the
unsettling realm between suffocating rules of conduct and complete
uncertainty to get at the tiny grain of hope hovering so painfully close to
the wheels that try to grind you.
The dialogue doesn't tell us much. In fact, the more wordy the explanations
get, the more they deflect us from what we see and feel. That's pretty much
what Ash has to cope with as well to find the way to HER reality as well as
illusion.
To call the acting understated, slow and painfully introverted would be an
understatement in itself. To call it bad for that would be the most idiotic
conclusion.
Malgorzata Foremniak (Ash) is a true discovery. The intensity and sheer
impact she can give to 'silence' alone makes her the ideal Oshii actress.
There is no empty move, no hollow gesture, no shallow expression in her
entire performance. Quite an accomplishment if one keeps in mind that Ash
leads a depressingly empty, hollow as well as shallow life on the surface.
It's an equally depressing fact that this incredible Polish actress will
stay in obscurity as far as the billion dollar mainstream movie world is
concerned.
The cinematography and lighting by Grzegorz Kedzierski is nothing short of
exquisite. So is Barbara Novak's production design.
Budget-wise, this is a B-Movie, but they all turned that restriction into a
virtue.
One last praise has to go to the composer as well as the
musicians.
The title track 'Avalon' alone, a grand piece for orchestra, choir and
soprano, is nothing short of a masterpiece.
As I said, this movie is a poem.
Take a quiet place, wind down from the hassle of your day and let yourself
sink into illusions which might even show the occasional glint of YOUR
reality.
*
10 out of 10
Schogger13
42 out of 49 people found the following review useful:
Otherworldy and Beautiful, but not for all., 17 December 2003
Author:
Katatonia from Missouri
Avalon is a beautiful movie, but not for everyone. If you mainly like action
or fast-paced movies you may be turned off by some of the slow scenes during
the movie. Avalon has action though, and explosions galore. Some of the
story is a little ridiculous and hard to follow, but that isn't necessarily
a bad thing at all.
This is the only film I know of that was a co-production of both Japan and
Poland. Directed by Mamoru Oshii, but filmed mostly in Poland and in the
native Polish language.
While watching this movie you get a feeling of a very unique quality. It was
filmed (or altered in post) to resemble an old Sepia toned film, but still
with the high-resolution of today's film standard. This adds a very bleak
and depressive visual style to much of the movie. That's a good thing,
because this is not a happy movie in the least.
Avalon relies heavily on CGI throughout the movie, due to the "cyber game
world" that the movie is largely dealing with. Much of the CGI effects are
quite interesting to watch. You can often tell they are CGI effects, but
it's obvious that it's a computer dominating world with players inside
it.
Another effective element to the film was the excellent music score by Kenji
Kawai. This has to be one of the most beautiful and engaging film scores
I've heard in a long time. It ranges through many different forms, even to
the operatic. Very layered and complex, yet easy on the ears. Recorded with
the Warsaw Philharmonic Orchestra, tons of people played the various musical
instruments in the recording of the score, according to the end credits. I
would compare it in a sense to Christopher Young's otherworldly and haunting
score for the first two Hellraiser films. It's a shame that the soundtrack
to Avalon is currently only available as an expensive import
CD.
Even if you dislike the film, you must watch it once just for the amazing
music...it really is that good.
34 out of 41 people found the following review useful:
Beautifully filmed and captivating,, 6 June 2005
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Author:
mstomaso from Vulcan
This is a stunningly visual film which takes many of the best elements
of the minor sub-genre of 1980s and 1990s sci-fi involving virtual
reality, and blends them into an interesting story exploring social
withdrawal, addiction, the nature of reality, and the value of life.
The film does have a bit of new wave pretentiousness to it - using
cliché hacker-names for the players of Avalon, etc, but no more so than
many of its competitors (and a bit less than The Matrix). If this sort
of thing doesn't appeal to you - and especially if you're the type who
wants a film to simply entertain and tell you a simple story, don't
bother to read any further.
The film uses a story-telling technique common in good literature but
unfortunately under-used in film - that of intentional ambiguity. The
best example of this is the main character - well played by Malgorzata
Foremniak. You simply don't know what to make of "Ash". Though I found
it easy to relate to this character, and I think I understand her, I am
not sure most viewers will. In my opinion, Ash is best interpreted as a
person with an iron-clad grip on reality, who nevertheless maintains a
distance from the people around her, and prefers to keep her
relationships "in-game". This is not at all an uncommon personality
type, especially among women and mature males in the real worlds of
virtual reality and on-line gaming.
The film focuses on Ash's ambitions to become the best player of Avalon
- an ultra-real and sometimes deadly virtual reality game - in the
world. Avalon is illegal and run on LANs which are set up in what looks
like futuristic crack houses. To become recognized as the best, Ash has
to complete a level which tends to put anybody who enters it into a
catatonic state. She comes to believe that an old team mate of hers -
Murphy - inhabits that zone, and wants to rescue him. But of course the
designers of the game have other plans, and maybe Murphy himself does
as well. Foremniak does a great job of playing this ambiguous yet
sympathetic character. Ash, the carefully developed script, the
excellent soundtrack, and the superb and beautiful visual effects, all
keep you guessing until the very end. I never knew what to expect from
this film, and I was very pleased by the way it developed its own
concepts of logic and justice - remaining centered on Ash throughout.
Avalon was interesting enough for a second and perhaps a third viewing.
I will update my review (if needed) after my next round with it. For
now, I will only give it a very high recommendation to anybody who has
read this far. After all, if you've read this far in the review, you're
probably interested enough in the film to see it.
31 out of 45 people found the following review useful:
Just a few words, 11 October 2004
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Author:
paulo1b from Brussels, Belgium
Well, this movie I enjoyed very much. To answer to those complaining
about the slow pace: you're right. That's what's different and pretty
nice in my opinion. For instance that moment when Ash is slicing a
cabbage, cooking in her apartment. Boy! What a slow yet intense
moment. Nothing to "see" but how much to feel. I'd say i like John Wo's
movies too you know, but this style is the opposite, and better i think
if a comparison can be made.
You might think i'm a weirdo but next time you see it try to focus on
the apparent emptyness of some of the scenes ... like the one in the
subway ... i hope you'll see what i mean.
19 out of 24 people found the following review useful:
Stunning, 17 October 2001
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Author:
Grismar from Overveen, Netherlands
I noticed the movie got rated somewhat better by the younger part of the
public and frankly, that doesn't surprise me. You'll have to have played an
online shoot-em-up or war game at least once to see why the idea of a gamer
making a life of her addiction in a near future isn't such an outlandish
idea.
Avalon takes this idea to new extremes, without being cheap or easy and adds
a healthy dose of magical realism. The artwork is stunning, the soundtrack
very strong (and classical instead of the usual techno), the acting is cool
and distant, which is all perfect for the dark setting. Even the choice of
Poland as the scenery seems right on.
Why then doesn't this flic deserve a 10? Well, although I liked the story
and though it does have depth, it is a bit one-dimensional. The world
doesn't seem to harbor more than this one story and that's a shame. The
movie could have become a classic with a little bit more background plot.
But nonetheless, a must-see.
14 out of 17 people found the following review useful:
hard but worth the effort, 29 September 2006
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Author:
symbolt
Avalon can be seen as part of a trilogy, the first installment of which
would be Ghost in the Shell, the last, Ghost in the Shell: Innocence.
Avalon contains many direct references to Ghost in the Shell, and
shares a lot of its motif of philosophical search for the self. They
also share the cyberpunk imagery, and the fact that the main heroine is
an impassive female warrior. I mention all this because I think it's
inadvisable to watch Avalon if you haven't watched Ghost in the Shell
(and pondered on it a bit). Avalon can be extremely heavy at times.
This movie does not make you think; watching Avalon is like trying to
decipher a zen poem, which I think can be done, but not through
intellectual decoding.
In Avalon, a lone hunter in a virtual reality game shares her life with
a basset dog, and all her activities seem to be centered around getting
better in the illegal, dangerous game and getting food the dog with the
money she earns there. The game is illegal because you can die playing
it; "really" die in the concrete, bleak urban world that Ash, the main
hero, lives every day. However, apart from the possibility of virtual
death, the game offers a secret - the highest level, Avalon. The
legendary Avalon is the "Isle of the Blessed", where King Arthur lies
in eternal sleep. In the movie, it is a mystery, which haunts Ash ever
since the deaths of her last player team.
The search for Avalon is depicted in the most beautiful cinematography.
The plot is very symbolic and should be considered so; the search for
the gate to Avalon can mean many things, and the nature of the quest
changes as Ash is getting closer. However, like Ghost in the Shell:
Innocence, the movie is heavy and long, and the characters engage in
philosophical discussion every time they can. With all its beautiful
cinematography, interesting acting (very automaton-like, but
intentionally so), and a set of intriguing philosophical questions,
this movie suffers from heavy-handed imagery and symbols, sometimes.
Hard science fiction pushes the science as far as possible; Avalon is
an example of hard cyberpunk, where the confines of the conceptual
world dreamed up by the director are explored fully and unremittingly.
If you are ready to take a film not as only entertainment, but also a
challenge to your thinking power, Avalon, like all Oshii's movies, is a
thrill. However, beautiful, intellectually rewarding science fiction
does not have to be longish and heavy, as Avalon is at times. Watch
Ghost in the Shell before it, watch Ghost in the Shell: Innocence after
it, and approach this movie at your most relaxed, for it to be a
rewarding rewarding experience; it can wear you down, otherwise.
One more thing: if you're Polish, watch the Japanese dub with English
subtitles. The Polish lines were translated literally from the
Japanese, and they are very often almost gibberish (and the Japanese
voice-acting is better, too). Also, do not let the fact that the
movie's virtual world seems to be set in your local K-mart detract from
your watching experience.
11 out of 13 people found the following review useful:
Strengths & weaknesses of a pretty good film, 20 November 2005
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Author:
Hinosan417 from United States
There is a lot to recommend this movie, including a richly-stylized
world, exciting action, and excellent music. I will admit that I was
first interested in this movie because I knew of the director Mamoru
Oshii from the anime "Ghost in the Shell", so I wasn't surprised to
find that the movie felt much like a very stylized high-quality anime
movie. Indeed, I wasn't surprised that the Japanese director revealed
(in an interview included with the DVD I watched) that his relationship
with the Polish actress playing the main character Ash was much like
his relationship with a character from one of his anime projects, since
he could no more communicate personally with Malgorzata Foremniak than
he could with one of his anime characters. To him, the actress was
entirely her character, and it's intriguing to see what became of that
very unusual relationship on film.
I'm always wary of getting carried away with a first reaction to a
film, so I should admit that this film isn't perfect. I found myself
wanting to know more about the background of the main character, and
her family, and how she came to become the person we see in the film;
certainly, Malgorzata Foremniak does a very good job of playing a
character whose fantasy life (the life of her online RPG character) is
more real than her 'real' life, but the lack of background detail makes
her character Ash very much like a two-dimensional anime character, and
that can be considered a weakness. Also, this movie bears an obvious
similarity to "The Matrix" (which predated it), so most viewers will
inevitably compare this movie to "The Matrix" and find it perhaps
wanting in that it doesn't lay out the background of the virtual world
of the Avalon RPG as clearly as "The Matrix" lays out the background of
its world.
These factors notwithstanding, I still enjoyed "Avalon" and I recommend
it to anyone with more than a passing interest in virtual reality
stories, anime, or highly-stylized science fiction in general. In the
aforementioned interview, the director mentions that his films tend to
deal with a borderline between fantasy and reality, and it's quite
apparent that Ash's 'real world' is somehow both grittier, and less
real, than the world of the Avalon RPG which she's so obsessed with.
The action sequences in the film (featuring real-world equipment from
the Polish army, such as tanks and attack helicopters) are exciting in
their own right, but the special effects of the film (such as
explosions reduced to 2-D images and bystanders who disintegrate when
shot) make it clear what is supposedly real and what is supposedly
virtual. Also, the contrast between fantasy and reality is much more
vivid here than in the Matrix movies - and that's especially apparent
toward the end of the movie where the viewer is left to wonder just
what (if anything) is ultimately real, and what is simply imagined.
Also, I must say that the music of this film is extraordinary,
including choral music that is downright eerie, but also beautiful at
the same time. A world both real and unreal is conjured very
effectively in this movie, and therefore I would recommend it to any
fans of this sub-genre of science fiction in particular, and fans of
highly-stylized film-making in general.
8 out of 11 people found the following review useful:
A rich atmosphere not seen in sci-fi since Blade Runner!!!, 26 September 2004
Author:
w_fairs from New Zealand
Firstly I was amazed at the effect that this film has on people. After reading other comments here, it does not take long to note that reviewers are either full of praise or downright critical, with little in between. Not many movies are so provocative. I stumbled onto this film late one night at the local video rental and it was like my last option, so I had little or no expectations to be deflated. I was pleasantly surprised. The sombre ambiance of the surroundings (Poland) enchanted me, and the sepia black & white film stock simply added to the mystique of the setting. Indeed I have not experienced such a rich atmosphere in a sci-fi film since Blade Runner!!! The SLIGHTLY low-tech special effects were incredible in that they seemed to add authenticity to the fact that this was a "video game" NOT "reality", unlike a lot of sci-fi where the special effects are merely another prop. The insular existence of the lead character due to her obsession with her virtual world is perhaps very poignant today more than ever with the advent of cyber space, computer games etc and their potential for social alienation. Perhaps the films shortcoming is that it may not appeal to the younger set who have grown up on a heavy diet of Hollywood Blockbusters where there has to be the mandatory car chase and subsequent sex followed by a gratuitous helping of ultra violence, but for me that was part of this very artistic films charm.
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