Blue-Skying Salmon Sky, 5 May 2008
Author:
dunmore_ego from Los Angeles, California
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
The OTHER Mission to Mars. In March 2000, Gary Sinise and Tim Robbins,
under director Brian de Palma, went to Mars ignorantly. In November of
that same year, Hollywood synergy (read as plagiarism) sends Val
Kilmer, Carrie-Anne Moss and director Antony Hoffman to the same planet
just as ignorantly.
In 2050, Earth is such a wasted tramp of a planet that humankind is
considering Mars as its next rape. A scout ship is sent to the red
planet but here's the twist: instead of sending well-trained, staid
scientists and astronauts, they sent a bunch of actors. Trying to pass
as scientists seeking answers to overpopulation, their uninformed
arguments, insufferable stupidity and specious philosophies tell us
they're really seeking Golden Globe nominations.
Val Kilmer is the maintenance jockey (the least scientist-y of the
ersatz scientists), Carrie-Ann Moss is the ship commander, (breasts
a-strainin' against her sweaty commander t-shirt), Benjamin Bratt the
womanizer, Simon Baker the Weird Guy, Tom Sizemore is Dr. Quinn
Medicine Woman and Terence Stamp is a pontificating pain in the arse.
Stamp pompously opines, "I realized Science couldn't answer any of the
really interesting questions." One wonders which "science" he studied,
as ALL science answers exactly that. Either this failed Nietzsche has
no clue on Scientific Method or he never asked any really interesting
questions or he was always just a religious nutjob who was trying to
find the Scientology mothership out here.
Smart-mouthing their way to Mars like glibness is fueling their ship,
one of them says, "The hope and survival of mankind rests on us." Gee,
I hope not.
*Red Planet*'s serviceable plot involves stranded humans trying to
think their way out of a situation that keeps throwing up obstacles
in this case, men landing on Mars with their escape craft damaged and
air running out. It could have been a very interesting crisis had the
SCIENCE actually been in this FICTION. Instead, like Chantilas not
asking the interesting questions, this movie studiously avoids the
interesting science, writers Chuck Pfarrer and Jonathan Lemkin creating
a Science FANTASY that makes up rules as it goes along; the worst
offender being Tom Sizemore ludicrously rationalizing how there could
be breathable air on Mars, to explain the rank stupidity of everyone
taking their helmets off so that we could see their pretty actor faces.
... From there, it is a low grav downhill ride.
Who are the science consultants on these movies? Is anyone being
consulted at all? One astronaut pushes another off a cliff, yet though
they all have their helmet radios on, the pushed guy never thinks to
scream into his radio, "Hey, this asshole pushed me off a cliff!" When
Moss is giving Kilmer CPR in zero-gravity, the computer instructs,
"Stand him up, Commander" but how will that help in zero-gee? As in
every movie that presents a moral dilemma (here, only one person can
survive, the others have to sacrifice themselves) it ends up being not
so much a dilemma as the story neatly excises the good guys who would
have had to battle amongst themselves for the ride home (so there is
never any REAL sacrifice).
The stakes are ramped up for no reason at all when Kilmer's
panther-like robot, AMEE, goes into KILL mode, enabling the killer who
pushed the guy off a cliff to get his just desserts; other good guys
die so that they won't have to draw straws; and Val Kilmer as was
pre-ordained by Romantic Ending Protocol spends a languorous six
month ride back to Earth humping the commander.
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Blue-Skying Salmon Sky, 5 May 2008

Author: dunmore_ego from Los Angeles, California
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
The OTHER Mission to Mars. In March 2000, Gary Sinise and Tim Robbins, under director Brian de Palma, went to Mars ignorantly. In November of that same year, Hollywood synergy (read as plagiarism) sends Val Kilmer, Carrie-Anne Moss and director Antony Hoffman to the same planet just as ignorantly.
In 2050, Earth is such a wasted tramp of a planet that humankind is considering Mars as its next rape. A scout ship is sent to the red planet but here's the twist: instead of sending well-trained, staid scientists and astronauts, they sent a bunch of actors. Trying to pass as scientists seeking answers to overpopulation, their uninformed arguments, insufferable stupidity and specious philosophies tell us they're really seeking Golden Globe nominations.
Val Kilmer is the maintenance jockey (the least scientist-y of the ersatz scientists), Carrie-Ann Moss is the ship commander, (breasts a-strainin' against her sweaty commander t-shirt), Benjamin Bratt the womanizer, Simon Baker the Weird Guy, Tom Sizemore is Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman and Terence Stamp is a pontificating pain in the arse.
Stamp pompously opines, "I realized Science couldn't answer any of the really interesting questions." One wonders which "science" he studied, as ALL science answers exactly that. Either this failed Nietzsche has no clue on Scientific Method or he never asked any really interesting questions or he was always just a religious nutjob who was trying to find the Scientology mothership out here.
Smart-mouthing their way to Mars like glibness is fueling their ship, one of them says, "The hope and survival of mankind rests on us." Gee, I hope not.
*Red Planet*'s serviceable plot involves stranded humans trying to think their way out of a situation that keeps throwing up obstacles in this case, men landing on Mars with their escape craft damaged and air running out. It could have been a very interesting crisis had the SCIENCE actually been in this FICTION. Instead, like Chantilas not asking the interesting questions, this movie studiously avoids the interesting science, writers Chuck Pfarrer and Jonathan Lemkin creating a Science FANTASY that makes up rules as it goes along; the worst offender being Tom Sizemore ludicrously rationalizing how there could be breathable air on Mars, to explain the rank stupidity of everyone taking their helmets off so that we could see their pretty actor faces. ... From there, it is a low grav downhill ride.
Who are the science consultants on these movies? Is anyone being consulted at all? One astronaut pushes another off a cliff, yet though they all have their helmet radios on, the pushed guy never thinks to scream into his radio, "Hey, this asshole pushed me off a cliff!" When Moss is giving Kilmer CPR in zero-gravity, the computer instructs, "Stand him up, Commander" but how will that help in zero-gee? As in every movie that presents a moral dilemma (here, only one person can survive, the others have to sacrifice themselves) it ends up being not so much a dilemma as the story neatly excises the good guys who would have had to battle amongst themselves for the ride home (so there is never any REAL sacrifice).
The stakes are ramped up for no reason at all when Kilmer's panther-like robot, AMEE, goes into KILL mode, enabling the killer who pushed the guy off a cliff to get his just desserts; other good guys die so that they won't have to draw straws; and Val Kilmer as was pre-ordained by Romantic Ending Protocol spends a languorous six month ride back to Earth humping the commander.
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