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This was actually the first Norweigan film I have ever seen, but I read the
blurb under it's title and it sounded interesting. It was very interesting.
It's the story of an Oslo cop, Nicholas Ramm(Reidar Sorenson) who goes to a
town and is met with extreme resistence from the towns people when he tries
to solve the murder of two people. The first, a young, Downs Syndrome child
who had been brutally raped and murdered and a grown man found in a river.
I felt his frustration as he tried to work through this resistance of the
people to solve the murders and his friendship with a little boy that
everyone picked on. It was a dark movie about how violence can lead to
violence and how a group of people can band together to convict a person
before a trial and take it out on his family. In the end, the towns people
were right, but their vigilantism was wrong and led to the death of one more
The movie was very easy to follow even though it was in Norwegian with English subtitles. I do recommend this movie, but I caution people too. There was very little overt violence in the movie. The majority of the film was intense verbal fighting between Ramm and the towns people as he met with their resistence. Though there is one scene that I would seriously caution the viewer on. Ramm finds a video cassette with the rape and murder of the child on it and watches it. Sorenson brought Ramm to tears as he watched it. It brought me to tears as well.
Not much I can say. I agree that this is probably not exactly realistic
especially it being taken place in a small town in a peaceful country like
Norway. However, we all should know, its ONLY A MOVIE. It has a tragic
sad story to it, and not only that, some disturbing scenes. However,
overall, this is still a great thriller that is worth a watch! It was put
together quite well. I'm quite shocked after watching the film, yet also
Is it the harsh, wintry climate that makes Norwegian small town people as callous as this film wants us to believe they are? I was wondering this at the beginning of Karin Julsrud's debut when we get to know the carefree and violent attitude of some of the younger citizens of the town. This is more and more obvious as the story unfolds: a detective from Oslo, sent in to help solve two connected murders, is first humiliated, then beaten without anyone lifting a finger to stop it. What bothered me was the pointlessness of it all. If one man can't defy a whole town, send in the troops, all right? But this film isn't about logic. The central theme is that of the young boy who is repeatedly being victimized. His continually changing relationship with the stranger -from curiously friendly to defiant and uncaring- is the main strength of the story. Unfortunately, it can not save the rambling nature of the script. It never seems to go anywhere and leaves one wondering what the film is actually supposed to be about. One mustn't be too severe, though. Many scenes are very powerful and I liked the moments of wry humor intermingled in the drama. What we have here, then, is a compelling but not entirely satisfying psychological thriller and another director to look out for.
Clearly the Norwegian jury doesn't agree (read the other comments) but I think this Scandinavian take on David Lynch's TWIN PEAKS (hey, that's what they're marketing it as, so call me lazy, see if I care !) is one of the more startling cinematic experiences to come along in many a year. First time director Karin Julsrud didn't intend her fable of how violence can only breed more of the same to be taken as a documentary but as the idiosyncratic mix of drama, comedy and horror which led publicists to make the comparison in the first place. Unlike Lynch however, Julsrud doesn't let the viewers off the hook at film's end with a far-fetched supernatural conclusion but forces them to confront their own dark side by making some of the violent outbursts her film suggests (but rarely shows) seem 'righteous' at first, though that doesn't stop them from poisoning the close-knit society they sprang from. Opening with an atonal rendition of 'When the Saints Come Marching In', this spellbinding thriller charts the investigation led by big city cop Nicholas Ramm into the small town murders of a mentally retarded girl and one of the alleged perpetrators of that crime. To reveal more would take away much of the film's pleasures as well as shocks. Progressing thoughtfully, Julsrud has enlivened her narrative with such a wealth of telling details that you may need to see this one more than once. I for one welcome that prospect.
I watched this very powerful Norwegian thriller on Encore's Mystery channel
last night. I'd never heard of this before, but looking it up on the IMDB,
I see it was made in 1998.
It follows the story of a police investigator who comes from Oslo to a small town in the Norwegian countryside to investigate a pair of related murders: a young girl with Down's syndrome and one of a pair of local men believed to have been involved in raping and murdering her. Wherever the poor detective goes, he meets with angry, sullen, and secretive townspeople--in fact, a bartender suggests that maybe the whole town was in on the murder and what will the investigator do if he discovers this is the truth?
During the course of investigating, the policeman befriends the young brother of the murdered man and tries to keep him from being abused by the locals, who kidnap and mutilate his father in a gruesome way, and who are on the lookout for another brother, believed to be the second perpetrator in the rape/murder. At one point, the policeman gets beaten up by a group of locals, including one man he recognizes, who tells him, "I was never here, and I've got at least 20 witnesses who will testify to that fact." It all moves to a rather startling conclusion, as we find out who the killers really were and the third brother finally stands up to his bulliers.
This was a very dark and disturbing and well-made film. If you're in the right mood and don't mind subtitles, you might like it. But it isn't all gloom and doom: a comic highlight: the visiting detective asks one of the glum-faced local police, a woman, if she ever smiles.
She says, "When something's funny."
"What's funny?" he asks.
"Cosby," she answers, and gives him this little half-smile/grimace, which, in the scheme of things, is laugh-out-loud funny.
1732 Høtten (Bloody Angels) is not a typical norwegian movie but it has
received typically norwegian criticism. There seems to be a trend in
to call norwegian films you don't like "typically Norwegian".
But I tell you, this film is nothing to be ashamed of!
Not many films from both Norway and abroad will be able to give you shivers like this, hardly any film of this genre gets stuck to your mind. It makes you annoyed, it makes you sick, it makes you depraved and finally, at the end, in a sick and twisted way - you get your revenge. But the film has weaknesses, and the most annoying is the script. It could have been so much better so it won't receive a top rating from me. But go rent it today!
"1732 Høtten" held me in its grip throughout. This is an intense
neo-noir that keeps you off balance emotionally. There is an Oslo
detective (Reidar Sørensen) who is sent into a backwoods town to
investigate several murders. Initially, a young girl was raped and
murdered. The locals identify one family as being responsible. They
know who has done it, but they are not following due process of law or
larger judicial procedures. The second murder is of one of the sons in
this family who is thought responsible for the girl's murder. The
locals are now after the second son.
Sørensen meets with obdurate lack of cooperation from the people of the town. He meets resistance every step of the way. There is one group of young men in their twenties that's particularly aggressive, mean, brutish and bullying that call themselves "angels". The local police are either passive or of little help. Sørensen makes no headway. He's humiliated and beaten up. The angels smirk and lord it over him, and the whole town is on their side. In one scene, it appears that they have castrated the father of the family. The problem Sørensen faces is one of vigilantes. They have their own ideas of who is guilty and they don't care about distant ideas of due process, courts, police, evidence, laws, trials, juries and judgments.
This is a gripping story that integrates its theme with its characters and action beautifully. It has some drawbacks artistically, however, that hold it back. The theme is homemade (vigilante) justice with informal procedures vs. the state's justice system based on due process of law. It is easy to find fault with both alternatives. This movie comes down against homemade justice, the reason being that it plays too easily into the violent and aggressive tendencies of human beings. In this story, the angels bully the innocent youngest son of the suspect family and they gang up on Sørensen. One can easily imagine where things can go when this potential violence is not restrained by procedures such as due process. One can see feuds, personal motives intervening, erroneous judgments, excessive punishments, high emotions causing irrational actions, prejudices at work, etc. On the other hand, one can understand that the state's justice system is shot through and through with its own glaring faults and injustices. The story makes clear that personally-imposed justice (revenge) sets up a cultural dynamic in which people feel it right to kill or harm others for injuries they experience, but that without bounds and limits and clear ideas of the appropriate responses, this dynamic will quickly deteriorate into a socially and personally destructive pattern. And it makes clear that this dynamic is "catching" and should be resisted.
The movie develops a strong sense of place and people. There is a strong sense of understatement and a sardonic attitude among the people. People don't preach and make things explicit. They don't make appeals. There is understanding and communication indirectly and more subtly.
As for faults of the movie, one character, a reporter, comes and goes who seems to disrupt the story's flow. Sørensen over-reacts to her. The local minister (Bjørn Floberg) is also a strange bird. The music is singularly out of place. The chorus is singing "When the Saints Go Marching In" and this also is used at intervals when the story is making transitions, and sung in a raggedy way at that. The youngest son of the family (Gaute Skjegstad) is, of all things, a talented pianist who plays ragtime pieces.
These faults and other matters that may be bothersome shouldn't be over-emphasized. There are some really effective scenes in this movie.
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***MAJOR SPOILERS*** With the local Hotten police unable to make any
headway in the brutal rape and murder of 14 year old Katarina Munch
Olso's top murder investigator Detective Nicholas Ramm is sent to the
quite and out of the way Norwegian town to crack the case.
It doesn't take long for Ramm to uncover that the Hartmann Brothers Finken & Baste are the prime suspects in Katarina murder but they just disappeared into thin air after her body was discovered! With the town outraged at what happened to little Katarina the boys in school have been mercilessly taunting little Niklas Hartmann who's two brothers are on the lamb as suspects in their involvement in her murder. The taunting gets even more vicious when Niklas'brother Finken is later found frozen in a local pound obviously murdered by a gang of vigilantes, knows as the Angles, in revenge! This with Finken not having a chance to stand trail for his alleged crime.
Ramm a strong upholder of the law is constituently being harassed and even at one point attacked and brutally beaten, by the Angles, in trying to bring the remaining suspect in Katarina's murder Baste Hartmann to justice. Going against the grain, in not being wanted in Hotten, Ramm keep up his investigation that eventually leads the remaining Hartmann Brother Baste to give himself up to the Hotten Police just to keep from being lynched by the vigilante Angles!
It's later on when the brother's father Raymond is kidnapped and savagely beaten up by the Angles that Ramm is just about to call it quits and go back home to Oslo knowing that he'll never get any cooperation from the people and may possibly end up as the gang of Angles next victim.
***SPOILERS*** With the case as cold as a Norwegian Winter Ramm gets what he needs, proof of the Hartmann's involvement in Katarina's murder, from a totally unexpected source. The proof, a video-tape, that unexpectedly Ramm receives is so shocking and disturbing that he a man sworn to uphold the law forgets what his job is and becomes as violent and murderous as any of the Angles that he's out to stop. What's even far more disturbing is that little Niklas whom Ramm has been trying to help overcome his violent hatred of those, his school-mates, who've been making his life a living hell since Katarina's murder now has a reason, in what Ramm did, to settle the score with them!
P.S The film Bloody Angles shows how even the most respectable and law abiding among us can go off the deep end when were confronted with something that's so horrible that we forget were living in a civilized society. That's what Detetive Ramm found out the hard way after some 20 years in his preaching, like to Niklas, and upholding the law.
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I really was taken by this film. I don't know why. I loved it. I was perusing the TV guide and I saw it said well any Norwegian movie is better then half the junk Hollywood is putting out. First off I must say I like the way the sub titles looked. You could actually see them without straining your eyes. Why aren't all like that? Second it is funny how some Norwegian sounds like English. SPOILERS AHEAD!! I liked the poor detective that was brought in from the big city..Oslo. Which is sure to give the local town people and cops upset. People mentioned this was like a David Lynch film. I don't see it that way. This movie was straight out easy to follow. Lynch movies always have something underneath. This movie to me is a carbon copy of some movie I saw years ago on TV when all the people in this New England town were killing young girls because of a sacrifice. They acted the same way the folks in Hotten acted. All these type of flicks have some type of church or cult involved. I don't think this movie is so far removed from reality. Granted I have no idea what little towns in Norway look like. But I will gather they look like most little towns anywhere in the world. Very close knit in their actions and they circle the wagons when something is wrong. The local cops obviously were not doing their job..why get he big gun from Oslo if they were. The man almost gets half killed and not one cop helps out. Same reason little town USA gets the big guns from NYC if they can't solve a crime. It happened to my dad he was sent to Georgia. I live in a place where the winters can be harsh and after a while everything in the town looks grundgy gray because if the snow doesn't melt it gets dirty and it makes even the nicest places look depressed. To me Hotten looked just like that. Snow that just will not go away. The ending was a shocker to some people it was not to me but it was a good ending. The idea that a Tape existed was the kicker. The acting was really good. The actor who played Dwayne was excellent.
The film follows the traditional storyline: big city detective Nicholas Ramm in a small town, trying to solve a horrendous crime, dealing with the townspeople who want to take care of the problem themselves. Vigilante justice is explored in detail and it is obvious what side the filmmaker, Karin Julsrud, is on. It was easy for me to side with Julsrud's outrage. I was a bit worried with the red herrings coming true, making the film a little too convenient but thankfully they didn't. When the twist comes, it is unexpected but (and this is a big but), I think Julsrud paints herself in a corner. Ramm's actions at this point are a little out of character and seem to be more of a way to clean things up. In this day of extensive media coverage of awful crimes, emotions are often manipulated and I thank this movie for making me more aware of how easy this is but as a film, I can't say it was a success.
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