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22 out of 23 people found the following review useful:
Overlooked Vietnam Masterpiece, 11 November 2004
Author:
A. W. "Nikki Christmas" Beebe
"The people were friendly. We liked them and they liked us... so it
really hurt us to see their heads on stakes." This line, dryly spouted
by R. Lee Ermey's character Sergeant Major Bill Hafner of the United
States Marine Corps' Force Recon, begins a brutal portrayal of war at
its worst. This film pulls no punches, showing combat for what it is: a
slaughter.
Do not come into this film with a soft heart. If scenes showing piles
of dead children, teenage Vietnamese prostitutes wrapping themselves in
dynamite to act as suicide bombers or "sappers", American nurses and
Embassy secretaries being machine-gunned by Viet Cong soldiers, the
execution of prisoners by both the V.C. and Marines, and the wholesale
slaughter of an entire generation of young men (both American and
Vietnamese) have the potential to bother you, you might want to avoid
this one. "Siege of Firebase Gloria" is frighteningly graphic and
realistic and the only thing that keeps this movie from being little
more than a snuff film is the humanity of the characters.
While the men on both sides commit acts that most people would consider
atrocities, we can see them for what they are: scared human beings,
some of them barely more than boys ("No way - Mighty Mouse could never
get us out of this s**t," says Private "Shortwave" Coates) who don't
know why they have to do these horrible things, only that they must if
they want to survive.
In the end, it is the North Vietnamese Army Colonel Cao Van who gives
the best summary of the situation: "The courage of your enemies does
you honor."
22 out of 26 people found the following review useful:
This Movie is GREAT!!!!.., 27 January 2003
Author:
ctgarrett from Canadensis, PA
First off. This is a movie not a documentary. As a former Recon Marine who
served in that hell, the movie has many realistic and uncompromising
moments. Like a movie it went for the splatter and over the top special
effects. However, the story of a Marine Recon patrol plays out properly.
Although, the fishing village shootout wouldn't have been the best way to
gather intelligence.
The movie greatest asset is it tells the truth about the transition from
guerrilla warfare to guerrilla political warfare. Defeat the village
supporting the warrior then you can defeat the warrior. The movie attempts
to tell the story of both the professional marine and the Viet Minh. The
guerrilla forces operating in the South while the North militarizes its
forces. The marines aren't all gung-ho over the top, but they are marines.
It's our job, lets get it done. However the job is a fight that can't be
fought and moral support wasn't forthcoming from home. Marines fought and
won every one of their land battles in Vietnam. We weren't trying to win
wars, just the current fight and get out alive.
The Amazon special issue tape doesn't contain the subtitles of the Viet
Minh. Thereby, removing the essence of the movie's twofold storytelling.
The
creation of a social awareness on both sides of the fences.
In combat your only motivation is to survive and that means keeping
yourself
and the guy on your flank covered. The Viet Minh aren't shown as mindless
communists, but soldiers fighting foreign invaders and the corruption that
they fostered.
This movie has an intelligent story to tell, but Hollywood recognized the
need to entertain the dopers in the back rows. They buy more movie
tickets.
Also this movie is from the 80's. When you judge a movie remember the
mental
and social climate in which it was made. So there are a lot of oil drums
being blown to simulate explosions. And super bullets being fired on both
sides. As I said this is a movie.
If you want to be entertained and maybe have your eyes opened a little bit
more about that time. This is the movie for you.
Sometimes low budget doesn't have to mean low quality. Hollywood needs to
sweep you into the popcorn tub and drench it with butter. But you don't
have
to swallow all the crap that's put in front of you.
Other movies to check out are Platoon Leader (Vietnam), Bravo Two Zero
(SAS
in the Gulf). I didn't like Platoon or A Crop of S--T Now (Apocalypse
Now).
That the essence of our individual freedom, choices.
Semper Fi
30 out of 42 people found the following review useful:
F******G "A"on this ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, 23 August 2002
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Author:
Mr Skoooooter from Fayetteville PA
I was there Jack; and this one is right on the money!!!! This film is so true to the mark that for almost 2 hours I literally forgot where I was and thought I was THERE with those f*****' jarheads (God love 'em!) Although I was only an Army Ranger (5th Group) for 18 months, I was on 7 LZ' and was in 49 firefights and got into this film from the first minute-I got it only a few weeks ago on video, but have seen it on cable dozens of times and will catch it EVERY time it's on! Lee Ermey is absolutely flawless in every picture he does, and for a civilian, Wings Hauser isn't far behind. And the guy who did the chopper pilot was PHENOMENAL; I would have sworn he was real as gold!!! Unless you're a Jane Fonda or Hillary Clinton type, see this flick at least once- you owe it to every serviceman and woman who went over there- We did it for YOU!
19 out of 22 people found the following review useful:
I was there - This is like a 'Nam Vet's 2 hour home movie., 6 February 2003
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Author:
elskootero (elskootero@hotmail.com) from Fayetteville, Pennsylvania
This movie is so good it's scary. I'm glad I didn't see it in a theater because I would have freaked out most of the audience! It was like being back there again! Lee Ermey is good but in this one, he is FANTASTIC; Wings Hauser also turns in a superb job as his close friend and is very believable, for a civilian (meaning non-military), and the clown who plays the chopper pilot is so REAL, I couldn't believe that he WASN'T a 'Nam pilot! I spent 16 months over there and was on many Firebases, and was overrun many times and this film over the ensuing years has caused me many flashbacks, but it's so great, I can't help re-watching it again and again - I just don't plan on getting much sleep that night. If you haven't seen it- Do so! It's the best Viet-Nam flick on the market-I think even better than Full metal Jacket, because it's serious to the end.
19 out of 23 people found the following review useful:
well, i sponsored this film to be put in the database..., 2 August 1999
Author:
Dana Bingham (dabing@worldnet.att.net) from austin, texas
i had bragged on this film so much over the last year that i finally
pleaded
with IMDB to include it, and they did (thank you).
i finally got home from a contract and found several folks had put in
comments ahead of me. i respect these opinions expressed and am pleased
that the film got such an immediate group of comments.
this movie is a shocker, and much of what it says is too painful to be
accepted by most folks. i am not going to defend it... it is worthy of
standing alone. but if you watched it and found it another RAH-RAH WE ARE
AMERICANS film, a john wayne we win in the end shootem-up, then consider
watching it again, but pretend you come from america, home of the north
viet
nam peoples and the round eyes are the invaders from a place far away and
unimportant.... then see if you can count the autocracies committed in
the
name of their backward, wrong country. no, this is not a routine movie,
not
by any sense of the word.
by the way, Lee Ermey is a genuine, real live viet nam war hero, multiple
tours, a leader of men... his performance is over the top for those of
you
who weren't there, but for us guys who had 3 feet of piled dirt between us
and 500 of them at one time or the other, nothing sounded so good as a
gruff
old man saying that if we did as we were told, we would live to see
morning.
catch Lee in 'purple hearts'
11 out of 13 people found the following review useful:
Gritty, realistic, and worth the watch, 11 April 2004
Author:
(fredgarrett@sbcglobal.net) from Alvin, Texas
I was an 8 yr old wanna be marine in 1968, having grown up on a steady
diet
of books about the Marine's island-hopping campaign during WWII and shows
like "Combat!", "Sands Of Iwo Jima", "To Hell and Back", and "The Longest
Day." My hearts desire was to be with the defenders of a place I could
barely pronounce [Khe Sanh]and help them break out of that siege. As a
result, over the years I have read almost every combat account/Oral
History
and a few novels about that particular war and the experience of being in
it.
SOFG answered one of the abiding questions I'd always had during my many
readings: "What was it like when your firebase was overrun?" I could
never
quite understand or picture it until I saw that movie. The performances
were excellent--R. Lee Ermey in particular--and the character development
of
the NVA/VC added a welcome and needed layer to the movie. There were
flaws,
for sure, like rifles that shot for ever, and defenders not crouching down
but standing tall; but from what I have read, the movie was realistic and
right on target. The very 'feel' of it seemed to capture what I had read
about that war.
And to the many vets who served there: thank you for your service and
sacrifice for this country, and all that you saw and endured. If instead
of
Vietman, WWII or Korea had been the 'first TV War', people's repulsion for
what they saw as real war would have been taken out in a similar way on
those who served in these conflicts.
11 out of 13 people found the following review useful:
Can a movie have too much shooting???, 8 April 1999
Author:
Aaron Woodin (purchagent@aol.com) from White Plains
The answer is yes!
I enjoyed Siege of Firebase Gloria - good performances, decent writing,
and the fact that it took us behind the scenes, depicting the NVA and
Vietcong with convincing attention to detail. (Note that I didn't say
accuracy!)
My "yes" answer stems from the fact that the battle scenes went on for a
bit too long in places - but all in all, SOFG is a first-rate low budget
Vietnam film.
9 out of 10 people found the following review useful:
Very Watchable, 25 August 2003
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Author:
Robert W. Anderson (bayareabob@mac.com) from United States
R. Lee Emrey strikes again. This a good movie, made better by R Lee. His While this film strays from historical accuracy. It gets enough right to make it interesting, even to those of us who we had to be there (VN). There is a very watchable film.
11 out of 14 people found the following review useful:
Refreshingly old-fashioned, 18 October 1998
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Author:
Varlaam from Toronto, Canada
An isolated firebase faces human wave assaults from the VC at the start of
Tet.
This is the Vietnam War just the way we thought or preferred to think about
it at the time: the Americans are the good guys, Charlie's the bad guy,
South Vietnamese civilians are the ones being protected, everyone loves
being in the Corps, inter-service co-operation is something you can always
take for granted. The reality was a bit more complicated, but it didn't seem
that way to a lot of people then.
It's about time the guys who were over there, or sit-at-home strategists
back here, got a movie that validates their recollections and good
intentions, one that's realistic, but without being too gung ho on the one
hand (like "The Green Berets"), or too negative about US involvement on the
other (like most other Vietnam films). I don't think I buy this point of
view personally anymore, but it's good to have it available as an
option.
Lee Ermey is totally authentic as always. Wings Hauser is not at that level
but he's good enough. The Vietnamese are generally played by Filipinos who
don't completely look the part but do a decent job.
There's plenty of mayhem for action buffs -- much of the movie looks like
the climax from "Glory" (or "Zulu"). Pot-smoking is frowned upon in this
one, as is poor grooming (I did say old-fashioned). Everybody does his duty,
especially Charlie.
The good guys win this time.
10 out of 13 people found the following review useful:
Sam Fuller Gone Nuts, 18 November 2003
Author:
Tjcj from St. Louis, MO
Incessant combat scenes and hilarious characterizations put this one in the pantheon. The split psyche protagonist(s) approach ala Anthony Mann is used pretty well here as a "professional" soldier embodied by Ermey's Sgt. Major is played off of Wings Hauser's kill-at-all-costs DiNardo. After a few scenes with these two guys you realize they are the most bughouse psychos ever unleashed as leaders on an unsuspecting war-movie platoon. The scene where Ermey parades around with the heads of two GI's who were taken by surprise and murdered in the darkness at their post is the blackest comedy . Throw in a wiseass chopper pilot who feasts off of death dealing nihilism . This one is in a class of it's own. Antecedents: "Beau Geste". "Zulu". "Khartoum". Any Alamo movie.(Did I miss any?) See also "We Were Soldiers" for a lot of similar scenes.
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