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Si te dicen que caí. (1989)

In the post Spanish civil war years, Catalan kids would sit in circles among the ruins and tell stories, known as "aventis" (the film's original title in Catalan, its original language). ... See full summary »

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In the post Spanish civil war years, Catalan kids would sit in circles among the ruins and tell stories, known as "aventis" (the film's original title in Catalan, its original language). These tales mix war stories, local gossip, comic book characters, fantasy and real events. The "aventis" told in this film are told in flashback. In the mid 80s, 45 or so years after the age of the "aventis," a doctor and a nurse-nun (who grew up together, and now are co-workers in a hospital) identify the corpse of one of the main characters of the "aventis" of their childhood and adolescence. Besides the interesting flashbacks - a chronical of the Civil War in a "typical" Barcelona microcosm itself, the discovery of this body (belonging to someone long presumed dead) leads to other surprises and unresolved doubts, several decades later. Written by Guy33134

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Overlong and downbeat picture set in city of Barcelona during and post -Spanish Civil War
9 March 2015 | by (Santander Spain) – See all my reviews

This is a depressing and slow-moving film whose original title in Catalan results to be ¨Aventis¨ , it is the original language . In the post Spanish civil war years, some children join themselves and tell ¨Aventis¨, they are peculiar Catalan tales . There appears Sarnita (Juan Diego Botto), Fueguiña (María Botto) , among others . In the mid 80s, 45 or so years after the age of the "aventis," the events happen at Morgue , when a medical forensic called Nito (Cesareo Estébanez) and a nurse-nun named Sor Paulina (Mercè Sans) -coworkers in a hospital and both of them grew up together- identify the body of one of the main participants of the "aventis" ; all of them were colleagues from their childhood . The discovery of this corpse (belonging to someone long presumed dead) leads to other twisted facts and unresolved doubts , several decades later . There are several flashbacks starred Daniel Javaloyes 'Java' (Jorge Sanz) , his relationship with Menchu / Ramona / Aurora Nin (Victoria Abril in triple role) , a lecherous wheel-chair bounded aristocrat (Javier Gurrichaga) , some fascists (Luis Homar , Guillermo Montesinos) and even an anarchist leader (Antonio Banderas) when then occurs confrontation between FAI, CNT , AIT , anarchists followers of the leader Durruti (who gave name to the Column Durruti) .

Disturbig and rare drama , based on a true stories called Aventis , being written by Juan Marse and mostly filmed in city of Barcelona . It deals with Catalan kids get together in circles among the ruins and tell stories , known as "aventis" . The flick being developed in flashbacks - an thought-provoking chronical of the Civil War in a "typical" Barcelona microcosm itself . These tales blend war fares , townspeople gossip , strange roles , imagination , showing explicit sex and actual happenings . It is a special story of loves , vendettas , lies and with intrigues behind . This interesting as well as strong story is a passionate retelling and a touching drama , including strong as well as exuberant sex scenes . In fact , many erotic scenes were suggested by the principal actors . According to Jorge Sanz, the quirky sex scenes were Victoria Abril and Jorge's ideas . The main problem has to face "Si Te Dicen Que Cai", beyond not being able to avoid falling into the politic pamphlet is precisely derived from the coldness of its staging , which eventually become monotonous over two hours and some of footage . This is a Spanish enough budget production but obtained a flop in the box-office . Excellent cast forming a powerful human group of actors and giving adequate interpretations . However , the roles are mostly sluttish and crude . Victoria Abril steals the show , winning yet another magnificent interpretation with three smoldering characters , absolutely hypnotic in her account of the bondage , a sadomasochist and destructive relationship . Very good support cast such as Lluís Homar , Joan Miralles , Carlos Tristancho and two young kids Juan Diego Boto and his sister Maria Botto . Won Goya Best Actor , Jorge Sanz , Goya Best Director ,Screenplay Adapted : Vicente Aranda , Best Actress , Victoria Abril.

This sad picture is based on Juan Marse novel's , whose books have been adapted to cinema several times such as El Embrujo De Shanghai , Últimas Tardes con Teresa and La Oscura Historia De Prima Montse . Marsé's works are located in Barcelona, and more specifically the neighborhood of Guinardó, where he spent his childhood, which coincided with the war, which has influenced the way of writing the author throughout his life. Marsé works are thus acclimated in the Guinardó or next to it Barcelona neighborhoods and postwar period or during the Franco; in them, Marse analyzes the moral and social degradation of the war, class differences, the memory of the vanquished, clashes between workers and university bourgeois and lost childhood, almost always appealing to the techniques of social realism, but experiencing sometimes with other avant-garde narrative devices, provided with various degrees of irony .

Evocative musical score by Jose Nieto , Aranda's usual . Including a spotless pictorial cinematography by Juan Amoros , he carries out a photography with juicy atmosphere , being shot Barcelona, Catalonia , though a perfect remastering being necessary . Juan Amoros is deemed to be one of the best Spanish cameraman with a long artistic career . The motion picture was professional though regularly directed in his particular style by veteran filmmaker Vicente Aranda , being hard to follow . He directed a series of award-winning movies firmly establishing him as one of the best Spanish filmmakers . His usual film editor is own wife , Teresa Font . Vicente is an expert on literary adaptations , as he has adapted four novels written by Juan Marsé Canciones Amor en Lolita's Club (2007), El Amante Bilingüe (1993), Si Te Dicen Que Caí (1989) and La Muchacha De Las Bragas De Oro (1980). Vicente often shoots strong erotic scenes , being ¨jealousy¨, a customary issue in his films . Vicente has been working from the 60s with ¨Fata Morgana¨ , ¨Las Crueles¨ , ¨Novia Ensangrentada¨ , ¨Clara es el Precio¨ , among others . His greatest successes were intense dramas with plenty of sex such as ¨Pasion Turca¨ , ¨Intruso¨ , ¨Tiempo De Silencio¨ , ¨Carmen¨ , along with a delinquency tale : ¨El Lute¨ I and II starred by Imanol Arias , his fetish actor along with Victoria Abril (They have worked together 12 times) . His biggest hit was ¨Amantes¨ , although originally intended to be produced as an episode of the TV crime anthology series 'La Huella Del Crimen 2' (1991), before producer Pedro Costa decided to rewrite the script as a theatrical film . And specially the historical story titled ¨Juana La Loca¨ also dealing with jealousy .


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