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6 out of 6 people found the following review useful:
A look at The Arsenio Hall Show : 15 years after the end., 8 April 2009
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Author:
happipuppi13 from Phx. Arizona ("Arizona Smells Funny"!- Homer Simpson)
First off,a bit late coming but here's to the 20th anniversary of the
show. ( 01/03/1989). Why 20 years of Simpsons and not this I wonder?
On May 27th,1994 The Arsenio Hall Show aired it's last segment. It will
be (almost unbelievably) 15 years this coming May. It really seems like
a few days ago to me but then again, used to record the show. (Not all
of them but more-so depending who was the musical guest). The sad thing
in seeing them now is realizing all the guests that are now gone. To
see Luther Vandross then and then remind one's self he's not with us
anymore,makes it bittersweet.
I was viewing some of the shows the other night for the first time in a
great while and still found it funny and entertaining. The serious
points of the show....some are still very relevant. There is still gang
violence in the street,there is still AIDS and despite having an
African-American as President,there are still race issues. ..but I'm
not here to get political.
I've read the reviews here and some seem to take this just a little too
seriously and one reviewer just made some things up to make their
review seem factual.
Example : Saying the OJ Simpson car chase or trial happened while
Arsenio was on the air. This happened June 12th,1994 nearly 3 weeks
after Arsenio's last show. This has nothing to do with it's
cancellation at all nd is an outright ignorant statement.
The important thing to remember about the show if you really loved
watching it was that it was a breath of fresh air in late night TV.
1989 especially,which was one of the worst years in TV and music
history. America,not to mention America's youth,needed something that
wasn't the same old thing in late night or even TV itself.
I loved Johnny Carson's show too but it's no secret that The Tonight
Show and Letterman tended to shy away from having the hip-hop culture
on their shows. Arsenio gave a forum to these acts and to other kinds
of culture as well.
I don't understand why people call Arsenio being congenial with his
guests "*** kissing". It's a late night talk show people.
Johnny,Jay,Dave & all the others did the exact same lip service,so how
was Arsenio's dealing with his guests any different. If you wanted
something deeper with celebs,then that's why you watch Oprah.
Now,I'm no fan of hip-hop but it was still interesting to watch and at
least try to understand more about it. This is something else Arsenio
highlighted on his show was,not just being the kind off talk show for
celebrities to talk about their movie or upcoming album,but also to
talk about relevant issues in our country. Being recorded in L.A. in
the early 90s,it would've been a poor choice to act like nothing was
happening.
Arsenio had great talents on in the short run of his show,not just the
acts of the day but the long established acts like Sammy Davis Jr. ,
James Brown,Mary Wilson,Stevie Wonder,The Temptations and more. I know
a lot of critics and Paramount themselves told him "Arsenio,your show
is too black." A great demonstration of ignorance on their part.
This is what really sets the stage for the ultimate cancellation of his
show. Being that the show was syndicated,local TV stations could put it
on when they chose to,so he got pushed back the the early A.M. hours.
The other factor is that Paramount never really expected him to succeed
as a talk show host.
On the final show Whoopi Goldbeg reads from show business trade
magazine,an ad in which Paramount says about Arsenio's end,"We are
speechless". As if they find it a surprise he's going off the air,since
they are the one's who set it in motion. They wanted his show to end.
It's an easy thing to do to say "Oh,his show is losing ratings". You
put a show on at 1 or 2 in the morning,just how many people will stay
up for it?
The last show is great,you have Whoopi,James Brown many celebrates in
the audience and some quick-flashback clips of the craziest & most
serious moments. Topped off at the end by James singing, "Say it
Loud,I'm black and I'm proud".
I'm not black but I do know that Arsenio wore that credo like a badge
of honor. It would have been simply wrong for him to do any less.
Here's to hoping those 6 seasons gets out on DVD. Woof-woof Mr. Hall!
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9 out of 12 people found the following review useful:
Only the First 2 years were Good, 29 December 2001
Author:
Bats_Breath from Phoenix, AZ
I remember watching Arsenio Hall when the show first came on in 1989. Lots
of kids these days probably don't remember Arsenio and this show, but back
in '89 when I was 13, this was considered the coolest show EVER. People
would talk about nearly every show the next day. I remember how everyone
in
my school were talking about his verbal sparring with Madonna(which always
seemed staged to me) back in early 1990.
Unfortunately, only 1989 and 1990 were good to poor Arsenio. The guy and
his show stayed true to the old adage, "the quicker you burn, the faster
you
fade away". The blush went off the rose very quickly, and from 1991-'94,
Arsenio limped along with his lame jokes and Eddie Murphy wannabe routines.
I remember I stopped watching when I was 15 or 16 sometime in 1991 anyway.
During the shows run during the rest of the '90s, people wondered when
Arsenio would finally get cancelled, instead of talking about each show
like
it was an event. I'm not sure, but I think that like M.C. Hammer, Arsenio
became very "1989". When the show finally went off the air in 1994, I
don't
think anyone even cared. I also think this show only receiving only 3 or 4
comments speaks volumes about Arsenio and his show, people have forgotten
completely about him. Nevertheless, during 1989 and 1990, Arsenio Hall was
a household name.
7 out of 10 people found the following review useful:
Arsenio who?, 29 July 2004
Author:
IrockGswift (IrockGswift@aol.com) from east orange, new jersey
The generation today probably doesn't know who this man is. Though everybody remembers him as Eddie Murphy's sidekick in the 1988 movie "Coming to America". A few months later he had his own late night talk show. The first 2 years Arsenio was at his best and after that the show became boring and dry. He started having the same usual guest like Bill Cosby,MC Hammer,and Eddie Murphy to name a few. In 1994 maybe a week before his show was canceled he interviewed Minister Louis Farrakhan,and the plug was pulled. Recently he been the host of the newly Star Search,but today many people think this man's show never existed. This is probably because he didn't leave the audience when some interesting and overwhelming interviews with his guest and everything was sugar-coated and a** kissing. Naturally Arsenio Hall seem like a warm-hearted man who just can't cut staying in the limelight.
8 out of 12 people found the following review useful:
Hiphop killed Arsenio? No!, 17 January 2004
Author:
Zpex from Detroit, MI
I just finished reading some of the comments here about Arsenio's show,
and while I agree with some, I heavily disagree with others. First of
all, there was no "hip hop backlash" around the time that grunge rock
became popular. At the time hip hop began to reach it's commercial peak
as well. Furthermore, Arsenio frequently had grunge and rock performers
on his show; from Poison to Nirvana to Red Hot Chili Peppers to
Radiohead. Many are quick to associate Arsenio's show with hip hop,
simply because he is a black man and was the first to really showcase
it, but that is not all he ever had on. His musical guests were a mixed
bag: pop, urban, country, rock, etc.
What killed Arsenio was that he over time just simply wore thin. In
retrospect, it is very true that Arsenio's show was very "1989," and he
had a hard time moving forward from that. His interviewing skills were
often lacking, and his opening monologues were at times poor.
Everything wrong with the show starting out that people dismissed
because he was young, hip and someone *new* to watch on late night
continued to haunt him, and over time people started to not dismiss it
anymore.
Toward 1993-1994, his show became dreadfully stale, painfully slow
moving, and annoyingly unfunny. In the meantime, all the hoopla
surrounding the Jay/Dave fight over the Tonight Show didn't help
matters because it led late night audiences (and sponsors) to focus on
them rather than Arsenio.
2 out of 4 people found the following review useful:
A Product Of The Times, 23 April 2008
Author:
Camelot_2000 from Canada
I admit I have fond memories of the Arsenio Hall show and was a devout
viewer, but that was when he first came out and skyrocketed to instant
popularity. He was a major hype of the times, an icon for bringing a
new, hip and refreshing format to the talk show industry, and checking
out his show seemed like the "in" thing to do.
There were funny and memorable moments, like the time Kurt Russell was
a guest and a song from an album he recorded as a child star suddenly
started blaring on the studio speakers. There were also Arsenio's
merciless digs at Roseanne Barr during his opening monologue, most of
which were pretty funny. There was also Madonna's hyped up and much
publicized appearance (back when she was at a superstar zenith), and
after the applause died down and the 'talk' began, all she basically
did was throw questions back at him about his alleged romance with
Paula Abdul.
Arsenio seemed to revel in his own success too, like showing a clip
from "Ghost" where Whoopi Goldberg mentions to two co-stars that his
show was on. Or taking note of the news item where a guy got outraged
and violent after other people in his household wouldn't let him watch
the show.
Yeah, The Arsenio Hall show was a product of the times, unfortunately
time wasn't too kind and before long, the fad started to wear out. My
interest started to wane in '91 when things weren't making such an
impact anymore. Even another appearance from Madonna didn't liven
things up. She, looking pale and curiously waxen faced, merely sat
quietly while her then-friend Rosie O'Donnell obnoxiously hogged up all
the attention.
Yes, Arsenio was a great show, but only at the beginning, afterwards,
it became a passing fancy, much like the "Help, I've fallen and can't
get up!" commercial and the "Twin Peaks" TV series.
6 out of 12 people found the following review useful:
Eddie Murphy's best friend was Good for a while, 15 February 2004
Author:
AshKaboo from Los Angeles, CA
It seems that no one can talk about The Arsenio Hall Show without talking
about how quickly the American public lost interest in the program, and
even
making several jokes about the said talkshow host. I guess it's because a
lot of it is true. Arsenio did die a sudden death, that is something
everyone can agree on. One night he became the hottest thing the world
had
seen, then before you knew it he became yesterday's news.
People are right about the good years for this show, it was 1989 and 1990.
Although Arsenio and many of his ardent defenders may accuse The Tonight
Show's Helen Kushnick of threatening a boycott on Arsenio's potential
guests
if they turned up on his show before Jay Leno's, that was just part of the
reason he faded away like he did. The man was just a downright terrible
interviewer, possessing next to zero skills on how to correctly and
intelligently interview a guest. And too many times his opening monologue
seemed like a rip off of one of Eddie Murphy's early 80's Saturday Night
Live sketches. Arsenio tended to pander to White society's expectations
of
a Black man, i.e. always trash talkingly funny and smart-mouthed. But
he's
not the only one guilty of picking up the mantle of Richard Pryor and
Eddie
Murphy and looking like a one note joke. Chris Rock, Chris Tucker, and
Bernie Mac have all fallen into this trap.
During the 1991-'94 part of the show, it was never the same and the pop
culture was changing, leaving Arsenio behind. I think the bulk of the
problem is what others have already said here, Arsenio Hall was firmly
grounded in a late 80's style, but he was trying to do his show in the
1990's. He could get away with it in 1990, but the further he got into
the
90's, the more he seemed like yesterday's news and just a total has been
what with him still talking about Paula Abdul and the New Kids on the
Block.
But Arsenio's reign in 1989 and 1990 was cool while it lasted, too bad he
couldn't keep up with the changing times.
3 out of 7 people found the following review useful:
Woof! Woof! Woof!, 12 January 2004
Author:
Pat McCurry (acehighpat@aol.com) from Wilton, NH
I have to agree with everyone else that the first two years (1989 & 1990)
were Arsenio's prime years. I used to watch it when I was younger and got a
huge kick out of it. I actually have many of the wrestling interviews on
tape he did (The ones with Ted DiBiase and Bobby Heenan stick out in my
mind). But of course there was the constant brownnosing on the guests.
Arsenio had a great interview technique, he just did too much kissing up.
It's a bad habit that has followed him into other shows. It only appealed to
a certain populi of the United States (Older people watched Carson, college
kids watched Dave, people in the know watched Nightline, etc.). Then came
1992 when New Jack Swing was dying down and grunge was being to take form.
Jay Leno took over The Tonight Show and made it hipper (and of course you
had his agent, Helen Kushnick underbooking Arsenio's guests). Times were
just changing and people started to forget about Arsenio.
There were a couple of positives that stood out though. His house band was
really kickin'. He would always center certain members of the band out
(There was Michael Wolfe of course, You had the "John B. Williams Poetry
Moment", and Starr Parodi's one woman band jams). He was funny some of the
time. And there is also the fact that a syndicated talk show went as long it
did without network backing. But it was only a matter of time when the show
got the death knell.
5 out of 13 people found the following review useful:
Good Premise, Bad Results, 15 July 2002
Author:
John from Southfield, MI
Arsenio Hall's show contained a wide range of ups and downs during its five
and a half-year history. There is much to comment, so LET'S GET
BUSY!
Firstly, let's focus on the good.
1) This show had a Black person with his own late night talk
show.
2) While Carson and Letterman appealed to Whites, Arsenio appealed to the
urban sector.
3) Arsenio dressed really well.
4) Arsenio would have guests on his show that appealed to urban culture, but
were not considered mainstream enough to appear on Carson or
Letterman.
5) Arsenio had an ethnically diverse band.
6) There were several memorable moments in the guest category:
· Muhammad Ali was on the show and Sugar Ray Leonard and Mike Tyson made a
surprise visit.
· Miles Davis' appearance.
· Sammy Davis JR's appearance.
· Louis Farrakhan's appearance (memorable only because of all the
controversy it created).
· His shows after the Rodney King acquittals, and riots.
· The video collages commemorating highlights of the show.
· Bill Clinton playing the saxophone.
· Andrew Dice Clay weeping openly to the sympathetic public.
· MC Hammer (or Hammer depending on your mindset) and his
performances.
There are other moments to recognize, but I have to stop here due to space
constraints.
Now, let's focus on the bad, which led to its premature
cancellation:
1) The constant ass kissing while giving interviews. No one liked
that.
2) More often than not, he would have guests on the show that appeared so
frequently that they became stale and boring to watch. One popular example
was George Wallace.
3) The monologues were terrible. Naturally, some jokes don't work at times.
When Arsenio delivered jokes that died, he would attempt to keep it going
to make it funny. It didn't work. The material was poorly written, and
poorly delivered.
4) The perpetuation of ethnic stereotypes associated with hip-hop culture.
Many times, he overdid it to the point that it looked clownish.
5) The fact that he had to maintain his "high-top fade" to let people know
that he was still "Black" appeared to be very plastic after
awhile.
6) His filler guests. For a little while, there was a show which came on
right after Arsenio called "The Party Machine", hosted by Nia Peeples. Why
do you need to have Nia Peeples as a guest on Arsenio (at the end of the
hour program, in fact), when she is hosting the next program?
Filler!
7) The "Master Impressionist" routine. It got old after the first time!
Some you could not figure out.
The program got so bad that his guest stars were of greater interest than he
was. Towards the end of the series run, I would only watch the beginning of
the telecast to see who his guests were and what he was wearing. I would
then either turn the channel or turn the TV off.
His timing was very lacking. The audience hollering "WOOF WOOF WOOF" was
going to get played out eventually. Though Johnny Carson's approach was
conservative, it remained lively enough to last 30 years. Arsenio was not
going to last a third of that. He did not keep up. He thought that the
same antics were going to keep him on the air. It didn't.
Arsenio originally had a 6-year contract to do his show. That means that
his 6 year anniversary would have come in December, 1994. However, his show
ended in May, 1994. His show ended 6 months early. Why is that? It's
because Paramount wanted to pull the plug. They probably bought out the
last 6 months of his contract and ended it. Thank goodness. Thank goodness
for Arsenio's sake.
Arsenio's style and format led to an attempt at shows that tried to
duplicate his formula: "Vibe", "The Keenan Ivory Wayans Show". "The Chris
Rock Show" on HBO was the best.
Arsenio was extremely overrated as a comedian, as a celebrity. There has to
be more to him than being a former friend of Eddie Murphy to have a career.
Too bad his career is gone. See you in 5,000 hours!
2 out of 9 people found the following review useful:
The Arsenio Hall Show-Starring Arsenio Hall, 13 February 2006
Author:
rcj5365 from Durham, North Carolina
If someone were to come up to you on the street and asked you this
question.......Who is Arsenio Hall?
At one time this man had one of the hippest and brightest talk show in
the history of late night television and also to make a point here that
he was the ONLY African-American entertainer to accomplished such a
feat during a period between the 1980's and 1990's when Johnny Carson
was the undisputed ruler of the "late night talk-show circuit",and to
put in this same category David Lettermen and also Ted Koppel,who had a
news magazine show during the late-night hour.
Say what you want about Arsenio Hall,since his show was a not to be
missed and for one "The Arsenio Hall Show"(Syndicated:1989-1994)was the
coolest show ever made,and righteously so. I remember watching Arsenio
Hall when it first premiered in 1989 and from the first episode it
really took off since at the time "The Arsenio Hall Show" debuted after
"The Joan Rivers Show",and "Late Night Starring Chevy Chase" were
dismal failures. For the six years that it ran in syndication,Arsenio
Hall was riding the wave of popularity and the explosion of "hip-hop"
culture and "trends" was about to follow. He did however struck a chord
with the youth of America since Arsenio show was just about as good as
it got and then some. However,a large percentage that were watching the
show were younger people since for the first two seasons(between the
years 1989 and 1991),"The Arsenio Hall Show" was the hottest show on
the planet and within its first season(1989-1990)it dethroned Johnny
Carson off the top spot of the late night supermacy. It was during the
first two seasons the show was akin to that of the first years of
Saturday Night Live. People stopped everything to what they were doing
and watch--there were parties centered around the show and there was
excitement in the air as well since the next day people would gather
around the water cooler to discuss about last night's show and to
eventually think about what Arsenio will do next or for matter
something in between. A prime example of one episode I do recall was
when Arsenio had a special guest or mystery guest to surprise the crowd
and then something else would come in and really get the crowd jumping!
It was between the years of 1989 and 1991 that were the best Arsenio
Hall had since he was the Number One late night talk show in America.
Then the unexpected happen. Let's face it,Arsenio Hall did what Johnny
Carson,David Lettermen,Jay Leno,and even Conan O'Brien couldn't
do...bring a hip audience with hip appeal to the youth of America! And
secondly,history was being made too since Arsenio Hall became the ONLY
black entertainer to successfully host his own weekly late-night talk
show,and his own program which was something other African-Americans
did as well like Keenan Ivory-Wayans,Flip Wilson or to an lesser extent
Nat King Cole!
The show took chances that NO ONE else dared to do but Arsenio Hall!
Several moments were excellent here including a daring saxophone player
who was the governor of Arkansas who went on to become the President Of
The United States(William Jefferson Clinton). Bill Clinton won the
presidency in 1992 because he dethroned Bush and kept it real and
keeping in touch with the youth of America thanks to Arsenio Hall!!!
The other? When The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan,Leader Of The
Nation Of Islam came on Arsenio's show when no one else dared to get
him for an interview and eventually appeared on national television!!
The same can be said for Reverend Jesse Jackson and also for Reverend
and activist Al Sharpton. The show was a launching pad for up and
coming comedians as well including George Wallace and Bernie Mac not to
mention Chris Rock and others that became famous thanks to Arsenio
Hall! Not to mention on the same category aspiring actors and actresses
who would go on to much bigger and better thanks to Arsenio Hall! There
were some funny moments as well too.
As far as music was concerned,it was so much that "The Arsenio Hall
Show" did for entertainers on a URBAN scale and it featured some of the
best R&B acts and not to mention "hip-hop" acts of all time! He also
had other acts as well that consisted of many musical fields including
several bands that made their appearances of his show when the "grunge"
era of rock music was about to explode upon the youth of America. Many
of these performers were on Arsenio Hall's show when NO ONE else like
The Tonight Show,David Lettermen or Conan O'Brien wouldn't let them in
the door! Nor for that manner wouldn't have them!
During the years 1991 to 1994,the show suffered a decline and in the
ratings as well since the pop culture was changing at a rapid pace
leaving Arsenio Hall behind. America quickly lost interest in the
program and other shows of the time were making jokes about Arsenio
which to this day he doesn't like. The show was also a political hotbed
for topics and issues which killed the show's good ratings. The ratings
really started to slip during the O.J. Simpson trial and not to mention
the wake of the riots that engulf Los Angeles,California during the
show's 1992-1993 season. During that time Arsenio turned his show into
a "Phil Donahue" type forum on inner city problems,and I do recalled
that one episode of his show during an discussing of this got really
ugly and it was during a taping with a live audience. This is when the
show got worst and from their his audience was deserting him. Because
of this,the show was pushed back into a later time slot and from there
the final episode of "The Arsenio Hall Show" came to an end in May of
1994,after an astounding six year run in syndication.
2 out of 9 people found the following review useful:
carson fans need to get over it, 26 October 2003
Author:
the_urban_prince from The Mighty Mighty Dark Urban Empire!!!!!
face it he's gone,and its not really arsenio's fault.and yeah i agree with
the first poster what killed arsenio was the backlash against
hip-hop,especially after the LA riots.so arsenio was forced to somewhat
change formats.wich caused another backlash amung the urban audiences.and
he
honestly never recovered.
everybody seems to be convinced that grunge killed arsenio but thats also
false. it had absolutley nothing to do with arsenio's ratings.either way
this show is sorley missed
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