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Director:
Writers:
S.E. Hinton (novel)
Emilio Estevez (screenplay)
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Release Date:
8 November 1985 (USA) See more »
Genre:
Tagline:
From the Author of "The Outsiders" and "Rumble Fish"
Plot:
Two juvenile delinquents find themselves growing apart, for one is growing up, and the other is staying young and reckless. Full summary » | Add synopsis »
User Reviews:
Better than the Outsiders but still could have been better See more (26 total) »

Cast

  (in credits order) (verified as complete)

Emilio Estevez ... Mark Jennings

Craig Sheffer ... Bryon Douglas

Larry B. Scott ... Terry Jones
Matthew Dudley ... Curly Shepard

Jill Schoelen ... Angela Shepard

Kim Delaney ... Cathy Carlson

Barbara Babcock ... Mrs. Douglas
Frank Howard ... M & M Carlson

Morgan Freeman ... Charlie Woods

Francis X. McCarthy ... Mr. Carlson (as Frank McCarthy)
Diane Dorsey ... Mrs. Carlson

Ramon Estevez ... Mike Chambers (as Ramon Sheen)
David Miller ... Punk
Steven Pringle ... Dirty Dave
Robert Swan ... Smitty (as Bob Swan)
John O'Brien ... Snob

Paul M. Lane ... Paul (as Paul Lane)
Brooks Gardner ... Tim Shepard
Sharon Thomas Cain ... Doctor (as Sharon Thomas)
Tom Walsh ... Police Officer
rest of cast listed alphabetically:
Tony Shuster ... Man outside bookstore (uncredited)
Brian Young ... Man on bus (uncredited)

Directed by
Christopher Cain 
 
Writing credits
S.E. Hinton (novel)

Emilio Estevez (screenplay)

Produced by
Alan Belkin .... executive producer
Jim Geib .... associate producer
Gary R. Lindberg .... producer
John M. Ondov .... producer
Brandon K. Phillips .... executive producer
Martin M. Weiss .... associate producer
 
Original Music by
Bill Cuomo 
Keith Olsen 
 
Cinematography by
Juan Ruiz Anchía  (as Juan Ruiz Anchia)
 
Film Editing by
Ken Johnson 
 
Casting by
Penny Perry 
 
Art Direction by
Chester Kaczenski 
 
Set Decoration by
Victoria L. Hinton 
 
Costume Design by
Ann Wallace 
 
Makeup Department
Terra Andrews .... hair stylist
Terra Andrews .... makeup artist
Darcy Knight .... hair stylist
Darcy Knight .... makeup artist
 
Production Management
Scott M. Rosenfelt .... unit production manager
 
Second Unit Director or Assistant Director
Michael Kennedy .... second assistant director
Robert J. Koster .... first assistant director (as Robert Koster)
 
Art Department
Clare M.S. Fishman .... property master
Bill Gregg .... assistant property master
Steve Korte .... assistant set decorator
Douglas H. Leonard .... assistant art director
Timothy J. Stark .... assistant set decorator
 
Sound Department
C.J. Appel .... dialogue editor
Sandina Bailo-Lape .... dialogue editor (as Sandina Bailo)
Mark Berger .... supervising re-recording mixer
Jay Boekelheide .... supervising sound editor
Karen Brocco .... assistant dialogue editor
Gloria D'Alessandro .... assistant dialogue editor
George Douglas .... stereo sound consultant: Dolby
Eugene Finley .... supervising sound editor
Vivien Hillgrove Gilliam .... dialogue editor (as Vivien Hillgrove-Gilliam)
Phillip Kos .... apprentice dialogue editor (as Philip Kos)
Drew Kunin .... production sound
Michael Minkler .... sound re-recording mixer
David Parker .... sound effects recordist
Matthew Quast .... production sound
Karen Spangenberg .... dialogue editor
Stephen Sutter .... sound effects editor
Stephen Sutter .... sound re-recording mixer
Philip Rogers .... sound recordist (uncredited)
 
Stunts
Everett Creach .... stunts
Vicki Creach .... stunts
Eddie Hice .... stunts
Wayne King .... stunts
Paul M. Lane .... stunts (as Paul Lane)
Shawn Lane .... stunts
William T. Lane .... stunt coordinator (as Bill Lane)
Shawn Lane .... assistant stunt coordinator (uncredited)
 
Camera and Electrical Department
Jamie Anderson .... assistant camera (as Jim Anderson)
Scott Buttfield .... gaffer
Tom Countryman .... camera car operator
Tom Countryman .... crane operator
Milo Durben .... grip (as Milo R. Durben)
Dennis A. Frank .... best boy electric
Dooley Grove .... dolly grip
Mike Gulenchyn .... electrician (as Michael Gulenchyn)
Craig Hanson .... electrician
Victor Korte .... key grip
Arthur Krauss .... first assistant camera
Bruce Manning .... best boy grip
Fredric Petters .... still photographer
Jerry Pope .... second assistant camera
Timothy M. Ryan .... grip
J.R. Thompson .... assistant camera
Lisa Van Dyke .... electrician
Bill Zuehlke .... assistant camera
 
Casting Department
Sharon Selberg .... extras casting
 
Costume and Wardrobe Department
Lynn Arlt .... wardrobe assistant
Rozi Graham .... wardrobe supervisor
Corrine E. Zala .... wardrobe supervisor
 
Editorial Department
Vivian Hengsteler .... negative cutter
Mark Lowrie .... associate editor
Carolyn Olman .... post-production assistant
 
Music Department
Ken Johnson .... music editor
Greg Fulginiti .... music engineer (uncredited)
 
Transportation Department
Dave Anderson .... driver
Robert Benjamin .... transportation coordinator
Michael Cain .... driver: Filmtrucks (as Michael E. Cain)
Danielle Fredrickson .... transportation captain
Jack Hager .... driver
Lee Stanford .... picture car wrangler
 
Other crew
Penny V. Bader .... production coordinator
Paul Bednarek .... production assistant
Jeffrey Blumenshine .... production assistant
Steven Bratter .... assistant to producers (as Steven J. Bratter)
Carlton Calvin .... craft service
David Dancyger .... location manager
Maxine Davis .... production office consultant (as Maxine W. Davis)
Kay DiMarco .... production assistant
Lucette Dussaud .... secretary: Mr. Cain
Dulanie M. Ellis .... script supervisor
Robert C. Ewald Jr. .... production assistant (as Robert Ewald Jr.)
Tom Ferris .... production assistant
Ginger B. Hart .... secretary: Mr. Belkin
Ron Hays .... video effects
Nancy Jensen-Young .... production secretary
Gary M. Johnson .... production legal services
Marc E. Kramer .... production accountant
Mark Levinson .... production executive
Debbie May .... production assistant
David Moe .... production assistant
Jennifer A. Mraz .... craft service
Kristin Overn .... location manager
Joseph D. Peckerman .... production legal services
Jackson Sousa .... fitness trainer
Arthur Spivak .... special consultant
Curtis Squire .... angel
M.L. Tanner .... assistant: Ms. Perry
Erik Torjesen .... craft service
 
Crew believed to be complete


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102 min
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Color (TVC)
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Trivia:
According to her website, this is the only film adaption of her book that author S.E. Hinton was not directly involved in.See more »
Goofs:
Revealing mistakes: In just about every scene where a bus is involved, it's bus #461.See more »
Quotes:
Mark Jennings:Let's move out... Teabag!See more »
Movie Connections:
References The Outsiders (1983)See more »
Soundtrack:
Born AloneSee more »

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2 out of 3 people found the following review useful.
Better than the Outsiders but still could have been better, 20 August 2007
Author: gangstahippie from Canada(Montreal, Quebec)

Rated R for Language,Drug Content and Some Violence.

That Was Then This Is Now is a film based on the S.E Hinton novel of the same name.S.E Hinton is a great author and I have read most of her books.The Outsiders is her best book,this is her second best,rumble fish is her third best and Taming The Star Runner is her fourth best.While Rumble Fish is her third best novel, it is the greatest adaptation from the original novel to the film.It was directed by Coppola who also directed the Outsiders film.That however was not so faithful to the original novel and I did not like it very much.Now this was not directed by Coppola, it was written by Emilio Estevez who also stars in it.While its more of a faithful adaptation than outsiders, it still could have been more faithful.The movie is about a teen named Bryon and his friend Mark who lives with him after his parents killed each other.They both used to do everything together but now Bryon has a girlfriend named Cathy and Mark is jealous of her.They also need money to pay for Bryon's mothers operation so Mark starts selling drugs to hippies including Cathy's little brother M&M.The character M&M is much different in the film.In the novel he is an innocent freshman student, in this film he's basically a normal teen who makes sex remarks.Also the endings of the two differ.Anyway That Was Then This Is Now is a decent movie but not as good as the book.

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