That Was Then... This Is Now (1985)

User Rating:

5.8/10   

Director:

Christopher Cain

Writers:

S.E. Hinton (novel)
Emilio Estevez (screenplay)

Release Date:

8 November 1985 (USA)

Genre:

Drama | Crime

Plot:

Two juvenile delinquents find themselves growing apart, for one is growing up, and the other is staying young and reckless.

Plot Keywords:

Teenager | Drugs | Juvenile Delinquent | Boy Boy Friendship | Punk Girl

Cast

Emilio Estevez	...	Mark Jennings
Craig Sheffer	...	Bryon Douglas
Larry B. Scott	...	Terry Jones
Matthew Dudley	...	Curly Shepard
Jill Schoelen	...	Angela Shepard
Kim Delaney	...	Cathy Carlson
Barbara Babcock	...	Mrs. Douglas
Frank Howard	...	M & M Carlson
Morgan Freeman	...	Charlie Woods
Francis X. McCarthy	...	Mr. Carlson (as Frank McCarthy)
Diane Dorsey	...	Mrs. Carlson
Ramon Estevez	...	Mike Chambers (as Ramon Sheen)
David Miller	...	Punk
Steven Pringle	...	Dirty Dave
Robert Swan	...	Smitty (as Bob Swan)
John O'Brien	...	Snob
Paul M. Lane	...	Paul (as Paul Lane)
Brooks Gardner	...	Tim Shepard
Sharon Thomas	...	Doctor
Tom Walsh	...	Police Officer
rest of cast listed alphabetically:
Tony Shuster	...	Man outside bookstore (uncredited)

Directed by
Christopher Cain

Writing credits
S.E. Hinton		(novel)
Emilio Estevez		(screenplay)

Produced by
Alan Belkin	....	executive producer
Jim Geib	....	associate producer
Gary R. Lindberg	....	producer
John M. Ondov	....	producer
Brandon K. Phillips	....	executive producer
Martin M. Weiss	....	associate producer

Original Music by
Bill Cuomo
Keith Olsen

Cinematography by
Juan Ruiz Anchía		(as Juan Ruiz Anchia)

Film Editing by
Ken Johnson

Casting by
Penny Perry

Art Direction by
Chester Kaczenski

Set Decoration by
Victoria L. Hinton

Costume Design by
Ann Wallace

Makeup Department
Terra Andrews	....	hair stylist
Terra Andrews	....	makeup artist
Darcy Knight	....	hair stylist
Darcy Knight	....	makeup artist

Production Management
Scott M. Rosenfelt	....	unit production manager

Second Unit Director or Assistant Director
Michael Kennedy	....	second assistant director
Robert J. Koster	....	first assistant director (as Robert Koster)

Art Department
Clare M.S. Fishman	....	property master
Bill Gregg	....	assistant property master
Steve Korte	....	assistant set decorator
Douglas H. Leonard	....	assistant art director
Timothy J. Stark	....	assistant set decorator

Sound Department
C.J. Appel	....	dialogue editor
Sandina Bailo-Lape	....	dialogue editor (as Sandina Bailo)
Mark Berger	....	supervising re-recording mixer
Jay Boekelheide	....	supervising sound editor
Karen Brocco	....	assistant dialogue editor
Gloria D'Alessandro	....	assistant dialogue editor
George Douglas	....	stereo sound consultant: Dolby
Eugene Finley	....	supervising sound editor
Vivien Hillgrove Gilliam	....	dialogue editor (as Vivien Hillgrove-Gilliam)
Phillip Kos	....	apprentice dialogue editor (as Philip Kos)
Drew Kunin	....	production sound
Michael Minkler	....	sound re-recording mixer
David Parker	....	sound effects recordist
Matthew Quast	....	production sound
Karen Spangenberg	....	dialogue editor
Stephen Sutter	....	sound effects editor
Stephen Sutter	....	sound re-recording mixer
Philip Rogers	....	sound recordist (uncredited)

Stunts
Everett Creach	....	stunts
Vicki Creach	....	stunts
Eddie Hice	....	stunts
Wayne King	....	stunts
Paul M. Lane	....	stunts (as Paul Lane)
Shawn Lane	....	stunts
William T. Lane	....	stunt coordinator (as Bill Lane)
Shawn Lane	....	assistant stunt coordinator (uncredited)

Camera and Electrical Department
Jamie Anderson	....	assistant camera (as Jim Anderson)
Scott Buttfield	....	gaffer
Tom Countryman	....	camera car operator
Tom Countryman	....	crane operator
Milo Durben	....	grip (as Milo R. Durben)
Dennis A. Frank	....	best boy electric
Dooley Grove	....	dolly grip
Mike Gulenchyn	....	electrician (as Michael Gulenchyn)
Craig Hanson	....	electrician
Victor Korte	....	key grip
Arthur Krauss	....	first assistant camera
Bruce Manning	....	best boy grip
Fredric Petters	....	still photographer
Jerry Pope	....	second assistant camera
Timothy M. Ryan	....	grip
J.R. Thompson	....	assistant camera
Lisa Van Dyke	....	electrician
Bill Zuehlke	....	assistant camera

Casting Department
Sharon Selberg	....	extras casting

Costume and Wardrobe Department
Lynn Arlt	....	wardrobe assistant
Rozi Graham	....	wardrobe supervisor
Corrine E. Zala	....	wardrobe supervisor

Editorial Department
Vivian Hengsteler	....	negative cutter
Mark Lowrie	....	associate editor
Carolyn Olman	....	post-production assistant

Music Department
Ken Johnson	....	music editor
Greg Fulginiti	....	music engineer (uncredited)

Transportation Department
Dave Anderson	....	driver
Robert Benjamin	....	transportation coordinator
Michael Cain	....	driver: Filmtrucks (as Michael E. Cain)
Danielle Fredrickson	....	transportation captain
Jack Hager	....	driver
Lee Stanford	....	picture car wrangler

Other crew
Penny V. Bader	....	production coordinator
Paul Bednarek	....	production assistant
Jeffrey Blumenshine	....	production assistant
Steven Bratter	....	assistant to producers (as Steven J. Bratter)
Carlton Calvin	....	craft service
David Dancyger	....	location manager
Maxine Davis	....	production office consultant (as Maxine W. Davis)
Kay DiMarco	....	production assistant
Lucette Dussaud	....	secretary: Mr. Cain
Dulanie M. Ellis	....	script supervisor
Robert C. Ewald Jr.	....	production assistant (as Robert Ewald Jr.)
Tom Ferris	....	production assistant
Ginger B. Hart	....	secretary: Mr. Belkin
Ron Hays	....	video effects
Nancy Jensen-Young	....	production secretary
Gary M. Johnson	....	production legal services
Marc E. Kramer	....	production accountant
Mark Levinson	....	production executive
Debbie May	....	production assistant
David Moe	....	production assistant
Jennifer A. Mraz	....	craft service
Kristin Overn	....	location manager
Joseph D. Peckerman	....	production legal services
Jackson Sousa	....	fitness trainer
Arthur Spivak	....	special consultant
Curtis Squire	....	angel
M.L. Tanner	....	assistant: Ms. Perry
Erik Torjesen	....	craft service

Production Companies

• Media Ventures
• Paramount Pictures

Distributors

• Aquarius TV (2001) (Greece) (TV)
• Look Vídeo (Brazil) (VHS)
• Paramount Pictures

Other Companies

• Camera Support Systems  camera car and crane
• Ray Mercer & Company  titles and opticals
• Saul Zaentz Film Center  sound re-recording

Runtime:

102 min

Country:

USA

Language:

English

Color:

Color (TVC)

Aspect Ratio:

1.85 : 1

Sound Mix:

Dolby

Certification:

Canada:18A (Ontario) | Australia:M | Canada:14A | Finland:K-14 | Sweden:11 | UK:15 | USA:R

Filming Locations:

Capitol Hill Area, St. Paul, Minnesota, USA

Company:

Media Ventures

Trivia:

This is the only film adaption of an S.E. Hinton novel that does not star Matt Dillon.

Goofs:

Revealing mistakes: In just about every scene where a bus is involved, it's bus #461.

Quotes:

Mark Jennings: Hey Mrs. Douglas, I think I finally know what I want to be when I grow up.
Mrs. Douglas: [leans forward, interested] Oh? And what's that?
Mark Jennings: Rich.

Movie Connections:

References Tex (1982)

Soundtrack:

Just Another Day

Emilio's pet project...

....should have stayed as one of those things that are always on the back burner! You know, that one kooky dream that just never materializes? If that was the case, I could see giving good 'ole Emilio a pat on the head and saying "That's it kid...keep reaching for the stars! Someday...just someday...you'll make it"!

However, the sad fact is that Emilio made this movie. Hinton sold the rights, and that's OK. Emilio took the project and added his unique "brat-pack" qualities to it. So, the time frame is different. From 70's lifestyles to 80's. Crashpads to break dancing. Blue jeans to neon spandex. Harsh language is added. Mark and Bryon now swear like sailors.

I can't say anymore about this film because my head is starting to hurt and I'm afraid my brain will explode. The class I work with will be posting their replies soon, so I now give you their unjaded opinions.