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That Was Then... This Is Now (1985)

Two juvenile delinquents find themselves growing apart, for one is growing up, and the other is staying young and reckless.

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Curly Shepard
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Mr. Carlson (as Frank McCarthy)
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Mrs. Carlson
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Mike Chambers (as Ramon Sheen)
David Miller ...
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Dirty Dave
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Smitty (as Bob Swan)
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A delinquent teenager's only link to society is the attachment he feels towards an older brother-figure. When the older boy starts spending time with a new girlfriend, the teenager begins to feel even more alienated, and gets involved with drugs and the police. Written by Cynan Rees <cynanrees@hotmail.com>

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Two friends raised under one roof. Bryon saw the future coming. Mark never knew what hit him. See more »

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8 November 1985 (USA)  »

Also Known As:

A Força da Inocência  »

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$2,502,780 (USA) (10 November 1985)

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$8,630,068 (USA)
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Emilio Estevez's original script followed the book's ending more closely. Paramount Pictures executives forced Estevez to re-write the ending to be more "optimistic" and "realistic". See more »

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In just about every scene where a bus is involved, it's bus #461. See more »

Quotes

Mark Jennings: Let's move it, dude.
Bryon Douglas: What's this?
Mark Jennings: It's a car, man.
Bryon Douglas: Yeah I know asshole. I mean what are you doing in it?
Mark Jennings: You've got 3.2 seconds to get in the car, Bryon. One
Bryon Douglas: Did you steal this thing, dude?
Bryon Douglas: No, actually its a loaner. Two...
[Bryon gets in the car]
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Referenced in The Children of Times Square (1986) See more »

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Experience
Written by Scott Lipsker, Harold Payne & Bishop Holiday
Performed by Roach
Produced by Scott Lipsker, Harold Payne & Bishop Holiday
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seems out of time
9 May 2016 | by See all my reviews

Mark Jennings (Emilio Estevez) and Bryon Douglas (Craig Sheffer) are best friends and juvenile delinquents. Bryon falls for the new girl in school who turns out to be an old acquaintance, Cathy Carlson (Kim Delaney). His ex Angela Shepard is jealous. He starts to be more responsible which concerns Mark. Mark and Bryon hustle at pool, and get their bar owner friend Charlie Woods (Morgan Freeman) killed. Mark cuts off drunken Angela's hair. Her thuggish brothers come looking for revenge on Bryon's face. Cathy's little brother M&M is hospitalized on drugs from Mark. The friendship cracks under the pressure.

I used to read S.E. Hinton religiously once upon a time. It has a melodramatic teen coming-of-age mentality. They work on the page. They have the 50's 'Rebel Without a Cause' sensibility. The modern world can clash with that sensibility. It can seem overwrought and out of place. This one fails that test from time to time. It probably should have stayed in the earlier time period rather than trying to bring it into the modern world. Estevez is a solid delinquent. This is a valiant but flawed effort.


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