That Was Then... This Is Now (1985)

Two juvenile delinquents find themselves growing apart, for one is growing up, and the other is staying young and reckless.

Director:

Christopher Cain

Writers:

S.E. Hinton (novel), Emilio Estevez (screenplay)

Stars:

Emilio Estevez, Craig Sheffer, Larry B. Scott

Cast

Cast overview, first billed only:
Emilio Estevez	...	Mark Jennings
Craig Sheffer	...	Bryon Douglas
Larry B. Scott	...	Terry Jones
Matthew Dudley	...	Curly Shepard
Jill Schoelen	...	Angela Shepard
Kim Delaney	...	Cathy Carlson
Barbara Babcock	...	Mrs. Douglas
Frank Howard	...	M & M Carlson
Morgan Freeman	...	Charlie Woods
Francis X. McCarthy	...	Mr. Carlson (as Frank McCarthy)
Diane Dorsey	...	Mrs. Carlson
Ramon Estevez	...	Mike Chambers (as Ramon Sheen)
David Miller	...	Punk
Steven Pringle	...	Dirty Dave
Robert Swan	...	Smitty (as Bob Swan)

Storyline

A delinquent teenager's only link to society is the attachment he feels towards an older brother-figure. When the older boy starts spending time with a new girlfriend, the teenager begins to feel even more alienated, and gets involved with drugs and the police.

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Plot Keywords:

teenager | drugs | juvenile delinquent | grand theft auto | family relationships | 

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Genres:

Drama | Crime

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Certificate:

R

Details

Country:

USA

Language:

English

Release Date:

8 November 1985 (USA)

Also Known As:

A Força da Inocência

Filming Locations:

Bohemian Flats, West River Parkway, Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

Company Credits

Production Co:

Media Ventures, Paramount Pictures

Technical Specs

Runtime:

102 min

Sound Mix:

Dolby

Color:

Color (TVC)

Aspect Ratio:

1.85 : 1

Did You Know?

Trivia

The movie "That Was Then...This is Now" takes place in Minneapolis & Saint Paul, Minnesota. The S.E. Hinton novel is set in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

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Goofs

In just about every scene where a bus is involved, it's bus #461.

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Quotes

Mark Jennings: Door prize!

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Connections

References The Outsiders (1983)

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Soundtracks

"Rap Song"
Performed by Talmage D. Hughes Jr.

User Reviews

Decent flick in-and-of itself, if you're not a fan of The Outsiders...

Only thing wrong with this movie-- the decision to "update" the story to make it contemporary. Some novels lend themselves to that kind of reinterpretation easily, but S.E. Hinton's early works aren't among them. The book, set in the late 60s, was essentially a follow-up to "The Outsiders," picking up a few months after its TV Series left off. The character of Ponyboy was taken out of this film for obvious reasons (why would he still be 16 in 1985?), but other Outsiders (most notably Tim Shepard) remained intact without aging a day-- effectively destroying any continuity it might have had with the film it was undoubtedly cashing in on. As result of this questionable rewrite, the novel's focus on the greaser/soc conflict dying off is completely absent, as are other time period-specific subplots. Perhaps the filmmakers wanted this to stand on its own from Coppola's then-recent "Outsiders" adaptation, but this likely hurt "That Was Then...This Is Now" in more ways than it helped it.