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(1983)

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Heather Langenkamp auditioned for the role of Cherry. She had a cameo as a girl in the drive-in scene, but it was cut.
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In the poster for the film, the Greasers are shown laughing as Johnny is smirking. This was a candid shot, taken during the photo session in which the actors were supposed to look tough at the camera. What happened was that Leif Garrett was approaching the food table off-camera, and a stagehand (who didn't know who Garrett was) said "The food is for the talent (meaning actors)," and Ralph Macchio sarcastically said, "Yeah, it's for the TALENT!" This comment cracked up the cast, and the photo was used.
Francis Ford Coppola wanted Matt Dillon to spend a night in jail to 'understand' Dally a bit better. Matt refused, saying, "No way, Francis, how about you go spend a night in jail?"
When Dallas falls out of his chair at the drive-in, it was completely accidental, and Ponyboy (C. Thomas Howell) looks briefly at the camera while laughing.
Francis Ford Coppola received letters over the years from fans of the novel, many expressing disappointment that several key scenes from the book were omitted from the film version (they were in Coppola's original cut, but were edited at the behest of the studio). Years later, Coppola's granddaughter was reading the book in class, and was about to watch the film with her fellow schoolmates. Feeling embarrassed, Coppola cobbled together what would eventually become his director's cut.
The film is based on a book that is very popular among junior high and high school students. A school class was actually responsible for Francis Ford Coppola making this film. A class voted Coppola the director they would most like to see direct a film of the book. The school sent a letter and a copy of the book to Coppola. Coppola read the book and the letter. He was so moved, he made both this film and Rumble Fish (1983). Coppola threw out Kathleen Rowell's script, wrote his own, and filmed the new screenplay. However, due to a decision by the Writers Guild, Coppola was unable to secure a credit for himself.
After Matt Dillon auditioned for the part of Dally, director Francis Ford Coppola went up to him and told him, "You can go home now." Dillon thought he didn't get the part and called his agent and told him he didn't get the part. Later on, it turned out Coppola sent him home early because he already knew he was going to cast him as Dally.
During filming, Rob Lowe asked S.E. Hinton, the original author of 'The Outsiders', what happens to Sodapop Curtis. The author responded that Sodapop is drafted to Vietnam and dies there.
During filming, the actors playing the Socs were given leather-bound scripts and were put up in luxury accommodations, while the "greasers" were given battered paperback scripts and had to stay in the ground floor of the hotel, as director Francis Ford Coppola wanted to create tension between the two groups.
Out of the main cast, all the kids were in their late teens, the exceptions being Patrick Swayze, who was 31, and Ralph Macchio, who was 21.
In the film, Dallas harasses Cherry and the two have an altercation. The scene was shot early in filming, and Matt Dillon and Diane Lane recalled years later that it got them off on the wrong foot and created real tension between them off set which is why their irritability with each other in the scene seems very real. When the cast reunited in 2003 for the 20th anniversary, the men laughed when Diane told them this, all agreeing that they remembered the ongoing feud between her and Matt. Diane blames her adolescent insecurities for being so sensitive to Matt's teasing. Diane also admitted that she remembers fondly how protective he and the other boys were of her. Matt and Diane ended up shooting two other films together, both of which they are each other's love interest, and became good friends.
In the rumble scene, the first punch is given to Ponyboy. C. Thomas Howell recalls that the hit was real, and it knocked him out cold on set.
During the restored dinner scene where Sodapop runs away, the character is seen with a piece of paper at the table. According to the novel by S.E. Hinton, it is a "Dear John" letter from Soda's girlfriend Sandy, whom he claimed he wished to marry.
S.E. Hinton wrote the original story when she was fifteen years old, and finished it when she was sixteen.
While Ponyboy and Johnny are best friends in the novel and film, C. Thomas Howell recalls often not getting along with co-star Ralph Macchio, saying he was very serious and professional. He remembers a specific argument dealing with him wanting to beat his high score on Pacman and Macchio demanding they rehearsed their lines. Their differences could be attributed to the fact that Howell was only fourteen and Macchio was twenty.
During filming Tom Cruise had gotten his script for Risky Business (1983). In the DVD commentary, Diane Lane says (very quietly) to the other actors that he had asked her during filming to play Lana in 'Risky Business', and her father told him there's no way in hell she was going to be a hooker in his movie.
'Diane Lane (I)' (qv said that during the scene with Cherry and Ponyboy talking before the rumble said that C. Thomas Howell was making funny faces at her when the camera was only showing her face which made it hard for her to concentrate and not laugh. During the commentary almost 20 years later, she reminded him of that and he responded (referring to director Francis Ford Coppola) "Francis told me to do it."
Teenagers Matt Dillon and C. Thomas Howell both had to learn how to smoke for their roles as Dallas and Ponyboy.
Emilio Estevez and Tom Cruise were childhood friends before the film and showed up to the audition together. Both received starring roles.
Writer of the original novel S.E. Hinton was a part of every aspect of filming. She has stated in several interviews how much she loved the boys that were casted to make up her gang of greasers. Since almost all of them were teenagers and away from home with no adult supervision, she claims that she became a mother figure for them on and off set, and fondly remembers them calling her "mom".
The hat that Two-Bit finds in Johnny's yard belonged to a crew member behind the camera who lost the hat when a large fan accidentally blew it off his head.
The actors pulled some pranks in the hotel in which they stayed while shooting this movie. Years later, Tom Cruise was introduced to someone who said he worked at the hotel Cruise and the rest of the cast stayed in while they shot this movie. The first thing Cruise said when he heard that was "I'm sorry."
In the scene where the boys are in the street getting excited for the rumble, Tom Cruise does a standing back tuck off of the top of a truck. Patrick Swayze coached him before hand on how to do it. Right before the scene was to be filmed, Cruise nervously approached writer S.E. Hinton and said he was afraid he wasn't going to be able to do it, because he felt nauseous from eating too much at lunch. Hinton asked if him if he thought he would feel better if he threw up. Cruise said that he thought so. Hinton took him to the food truck, and made him drink raw eggs until he threw up, resulting in Cruise feeling much better and doing the stunt without a problem.
In the scene where Dally threatens the nurse in the hospital with Two-Bit's knife, the nurse is played by S.E. Hinton, author of "The Outsiders" novel.
Rob Lowe's film debut. He had also auditioned for the role of Randy Adderson. This was not by his choice. He certainly did not want to play a "soc" in a movie about greasers. He even considered lowering his performance level for Randy's audition so he'd seem like a better fit for the Sodapop role.
Over a half hour of the film was cut before release, due to movie executives fearing it to be too long and a chance of upsetting fans of the book, making the movie a mere 91 minutes. In 2005, a "director's cut" DVD of this film was released that restores much of this footage.
Tom Cruise had a cap in his tooth removed in order to further convey the damage he received in the rumble.
While shooting a particular scene, eighteen-year-old Matt Dillon was continuously goofing off. Frustrated, director Francis Ford Coppola swore at him and called him an "airhead" on set. Writer S.E. Hinton convinced Francis to apologize and Matt to cooperate. Francis ended up growing so fond of Matt that he casted him in his following film 'Rumble Fish' (also Hinton's).
Rob Lowe turned eighteen-years-old during filming. According to him, the other boys mercilessly played pranks on him all day on his birthday, such as saran wrapping his toilet seat and filling his hotel room with fire extinguishing foam.
Rob Lowe had never viewed his cut scenes until Francis Ford Coppola released "The Outsiders - The Complete Novel" in 2005, 23 years after filming them.
Aged thirty-one at the time of filming, Patrick Swayze played a character (Darrel Curtis) eleven years his junior.
The letter jacket that the Soc is wearing as he challenges Darrel is the letter jacket from the high school that author S.E. Hinton attended.
Two-Bit's real name is Keith.
According to writer S.E. Hinton, the boys caused quite a bit of trouble in the hotel they were staying in during the three months of filming. One particular incident she recalled in an interview was the night they filmed the fountain scene, where Bob (Leif Garrett) is attempting to drown Ponyboy (C. Thomas Howell). Later on, the six other boys jokingly mocked this scene in the hotel's lobby fountain, playfully trying to drown each other. Hinton states the hotel had the fountain removed within weeks.
Rob Lowe's film debut.
In addition to the 22 minutes of restored footage in the 2005 "Complete Novel" DVD, there are additional scenes that are not included, such as: an extension of the "walking home" introduction where the Socs accost Sodapop and Steve at the DX station and Darry throws some debris from the roof of a house at their car as they drive past him (this extension also includes more narration by Ponyboy); an alternate introduction to Johnny where his mother chases him out of the house with a broom, only to be stopped by Two-Bit, who rushes to Johnny's aid; additional footage of Ponyboy and Johnny at the church where they hide from some people riding on a horse; additional footage where Ponyboy and Darry have a fight only to be walked out on by Sodapop; and an extended morning scene following the church fire where Ponyboy awakes and urges Sodapop to wake up, echoing the words he heard Darry say in his dream at the church, "Rise and shine."
Nicolas Cage auditioned for the role of either Dally or Dallas. He did some method acting for the part by locking himself in a room for two weeks, drinking beer & staring at a photograph of Charles Bronson, hoping that the physical and mental attitude of playing a thug would rub off on him. Francis Ford Coppola turned him down and told him to audition for the part of Two-Bit, but Cage was so fed up at this point from all his hard work being in vain that he walked away from the project.
Ponyboy has a scab on his neck, which is visible in quite a few scenes, that was the result of being cut by a Soc in the original opening where Ponyboy is jumped by Socs after leaving a movie theater.
During the drive in theatre scene, you can see Ponyboy shivering several times and see the actors breath a few times. This was due to it only being around 34 degrees and the wardrobe department was adamant that he wear the shirt with no sleeves.
Sarah Jessica Parker turned down the offer to play Cherry.
The film takes place in 1965.
When Dallas robs the store clerk, the clerk is played by character actor William Smith, who a few years earlier had portrayed Falconetti in Rich Man, Poor Man (1976). Years later, in the film Beautiful Girls (1996), Matt Dillon's character Tommy tells his roommate Paul that he will be skipping their high school reunion and staying home to watch "Rich Man, Poor Man". The two characters then gush that there was never a more terrifying on-screen villain than Falconetti.
During the scene where Dallas is at the payphone, calling Darry, the name Johnny can be seen in graffiti near the phone.
Matt Dillon and Diane Lane dated briefly during filming.
There are a few differences regarding the characters' descriptions from the novel. In the novel, Dallas has blonde hair, but his hair is jet black in the film. Also in the novel, "Two-Bit" is six-foot, but Emilio Estevez is only 5' 6-1/2 ". Steve Randle is also supposed to be tall in the novel, unlike Tom Cruise.
Anthony Michael Hall read for the part of Ponyboy Curtis.
Dennis Quaid turned down the role of Dally order to appear in The Right Stuff (1983).
Tom Cruise auditioned for the role of Sodapop Curtis before being cast as Steve Randle.
Mickey Rourke auditioned for the role of Darry, but director Francis Ford Coppola felt that he wasn't the right fit. He did use him for his film Rumble Fish (1983) however.
Ralph Macchio once said he only wanted to play Johnny because he was most like him.
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The camera shot of Johnny at the fountain, which starts almost upside-down and turns (with Ponyboy's point-of-view as he is getting up) is Francis Ford Coppola "stealing from himself" in a sort of homage to the shot of Capt. Willard in Apocalypse Now (1979), where the natives turn him upside-down, and the camera follows in his point-of-view.
Timothy Hutton was considered for the role of Ponyboy Curtis and Scott Baio was considered for the role of Johnny Cade.
In the scene where Darry hits Ponyboy, there is a shot of Ponyboy standing up, running across the room in the house, then pans to him opening the door and running out. Francis Ford Coppola actually cut out the side of the house that was used for filming to achieve this shot.
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This was Tom Cruise's only film of 1983, in which he did not have a starring role. The others are Risky Business (1983), Losin' It (1983) and All the Right Moves (1983). It was also his last supporting role in a film until Magnolia (1999).
The knife that Two-Bit uses in the film is a Filipino Balisong. In many parts of the world, it is more commonly known as a "butterfly knife".
Adam Baldwin was tested for the role of Dallas.
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Brooke Shields turned down the role of Cherry, in order to play Dale in Sahara (1983).
In the novel version Randy plays a more significant role than in the movie version.
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Glenn Scarpelli auditioned for the role of Ponyboy Curtis.
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Helen Slater auditioned for the role of Cherry.
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The non-profit organization producer/performer Anthony Begonia volunteers with was used as a catering home base on several occasions for the film.
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In the movie scene where Cherry and Marcia leave Bob and Randy to go watch the movie alone; Randy and Bob are talking in the car and you can see in the back windshield ,a carving/ statue of the word, Rogers, the high school that they both, along with Cherry, Marcia, and Ponyboy attend.
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In the scene where Ponyboy, Johnny and Two-Bit are walking to Johnny's house, a hat flies into the scene. Two-Bit picks it up and says "look! I have a new hat!" and walks away. The hat belonged to one of the camera men. Francis Ford Coppola had said to the cast earlier that he did not want to stop rolling, no matter what, so the hat is still in the movie.
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The employees in the concession stand scene at the drive-in were actually employees of General Cinema Theaters, then owners of the Admiral Twin Drive-In.
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Tom Cruise and Patrick Swayze did their own gymnastics stunts in the scene leading up to the rumble.
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During the rumble scene, Tom Cruise was accidentally socked in the jaw and needed dental work the following day. The Tulsa dentist has a picture of himself and the then-young actor together in his office.
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Francis Ford Coppola wanted Matt Dillon to spend a night in jail in order to understand the character of Dallas better. It didn't happen.
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S.E. Hinton chose Matt Dillon for the role of Dallas Winston after seeing him in Tex (1982).
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Francis Ford Coppola had the boys spend a night in the Curtis house used in the movie. He wanted the three "brothers" (Patrick Swayze, Rob Lowe,and C. Thomas Howell) to cook a meal together (none of them cooked) and get the to be as close as brothers. All the boys were in character for hours on end.
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In the fight scene on one of the days they were filming it was raining but the next day it wasn't. So Francis Ford Coppola brought in rain towers and fire houses to create fake rain and the worst part is was that it was only around 32 degrees! The actors were freezing.
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Ralph Macchio read The Outsiders when he was in the seventh grade. He also said that Johnny Cade was one of his personal favourite characters to play.
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Emilio Estevez approached his character as a laid-back guy and thought up Two-Bit's interest in Mickey Mouse, shown by his uniform of Mickey Mouse T-shirts and watching of cartoons.
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Francis Ford Coppola became aware of Emilio Estevez when he accompanied his dad Martin Sheen to the filming of Apocalypse Now (1979). He had a small role as a messenger boy that was cut. He remembered Estevez and gave him a bigger role in this film.
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The convenience store that Dallas pulls out a gun on the store clerk is a U-tote-M - this particular convenience store chain originated in the Houston, TX metro area which was acquired by Leroy Melcher in 1950 when it operated 10 stores. U-tote-M expanded to 1000 stores when Melcher became the president and CEO. A sister company, U-tote-M of San Antonio, Texas, later evolved to become National Convenience Stores. U-tote-M was acquired by the Circle K Corporation on December 29, 1983 where the 960 U-Tote-M chain was rebranded as Circle K. Circle K was later acquired by Canadian convenience store chain Alimentation Couche-Tard; as of 2013, the U-Tote-M brand name and trademark (after the Circle K purchase) has been declared abandoned. After U-tote-M was merged into Circle K, Leroy Melcher's namesake (as a former University of Houston alumni) was used by the University of Houston's C.T. Bauer College of Business main building, named Melcher Hall in 1986.
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Cameo 

Sofia Coppola, Francis Ford Coppola:  The little girl who asks Dally for spare change.
S.E. Hinton:  a nurse in the hospital.

Spoilers 

The trivia items below may give away important plot points.

Matt Dillon's character is shot and killed by police after pointing an unloaded gun at them. The same thing happened to his character in Over the Edge (1979).
The line said by Dally "You'll never get me alive!" at the end of the movie was improvised by Matt Dillon.
The first line is the last line and it is said by the same person.
Jerry Wood differs slightly from the book. In the book Jerry Wood comes from a place where the greaser and soc conflict isn't present and is neither a soc or greaser. Who doesn't even know what a greaser or a soc even is. In the movie however he does know what a greaser or a soc is and is even a soc himself.
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