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14 out of 19 people found the following review useful:
A tissue of lies, 5 December 2006
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Author:
tonygillan from England
To this day, Malcolm McLaren is telling anyone daft enough to believe
him that the Sex Pistols were his idea and that the band members were
his puppets to be used to make him money. There is a good reason for
him doing this, namely that he is a liar.
Here are some real facts.
* McLaren was actually approached by the band to be manager, not the
other way round.
* The Pistols were a proper, organic band and not created by McLaren or
anyone else. Jones and Cook were childhood friends. Rotten and Vicious
went back a long way too. This is something that has led to unfair
criticism of the Pistols down the years as they have been likened to
manufactured boy bands.
* The band and no one else wrote the songs, recorded them, played live,
created the publicity and gave the interviews.
* McLaren did not instigate the Bill Grundy incident. The Pistols only
appeared on the programme because Queen had pulled out. According to
the band, McLaren was cowering in the back in case arrests were about
to be made.
* Johnny Rotten walked out of the band. He was not sacked.
* Far from outwitting the Sex Pistols, John Lydon (Rotten) actually
successfully sued him in the 1980s for control and a considerable sum
of money. Some of the evidence used by Lydon's lawyers was from
McLaren's boasting in 'The Great Rock & Roll Swindle'. This would
suggest that McLaren is none too bright despite his affectations.
* The sackings and subsequent pay offs from A & M and EMI were, again,
not engineered, it was merely the way things panned out.
* McLaren boasts about the money he made from the band. If he had been
competent, he could have made a great deal more. It seems he coudn't
even organise gigs properly.
* McLaren's claim at the start of the film that he invented punk rock
can be disproved in about ten seconds. The Pistols were not the first
punk band, merely the most high profile.
This is a terrible film. The only parts worth watching are the genuine
footage of the band, later put to much better use in 'The Filth And The
Fury'.
8 out of 12 people found the following review useful:
Should come as a double pack with The Filth & The Fury called "Two Sides To Every Story", 9 July 2005
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Author:
yorkchaser from Barnsley, UK
*** This review may contain spoilers ***
Of course this isn't the real story of the Sex Pistols, but who cares?
It's still a laugh... The opening credit's theme song (Steve on drums
and Paul on guitar... Eh?) gave us the wonderful and future host of
TV's Crystal Maze, Tenpole Tudor (even Sid is giggling, Tenpole's such
a loony), before rocketing into a ridiculously wonderful "Malcolm
McLaren as God kissing his own cheeks" slice of film.
It's good fun, but if this is the only Pistols film you ever see, don't
take what's said as what happened, this is purely McLaren's fantasy.
Quite a bit of the live footage in this film turned up in the excellent
"The Filth & The Fury", but here it uses the actual sound rather than
simply overdubbing it with the album versions. Damn they were good when
they were on form!
Best bits? The Pistols (with John & Sid) rehearsing "No Feelings" in a
studio without the unnecessary album overdub used in Filth & Fury
(sounds even better here - see, Vicious can play bass, sort of...)
Archive footage of people boycotting Pistols gigs in Wales:
Interviewer: "Excuse me sir, can you tell me why you're here tonight?"
Bloke: "Because I'm recognised as a Christian!"
Bloke 2: "Ive got teenage daughters... I'd let them go and see Rod
Stewart but I wouldn't let them see this rubbish!"
Woman: "I think it's degrading and disgusting for our children to hear
and see such things. If I thought one of mine was in there I'd go in
and drag them out; terrible I think it is, just disgusting" etc.
Hilarious!
No more to be said, except a few points of pub trivia to bore your
friends with: Lemmy from Motorhead taught Sid to play bass as he was
about to join The Pistols over 3 days, before giving up (apparently he
was unteachable). Chrisie Hynde from the Pretenders was supposed to
marry Sid in order to stay in the country. During the always wrongly
quoted Grundy interview, Johnny says "Oh alright, so you're playing
games, I'm really impressed" and not that rubbish about "Oh alright,
Siegfried" that is given in every transcript.
Couple this with The Filth and The Fury for an entertaining evening's
viewing before you dig out Never Mind The B*llocks, play it very loud
and realise how good it still sounds...
Tenpole should have joined The Cramps! Would have been comedy central!
The Sex Pistols: an important point in musical history. You gotta love
'em!
10 out of 16 people found the following review useful:
Useless, self-indulgent, 24 February 2002
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Author:
matlock-6 from Chicago, IL
Not only is The Great Rock N Roll Swindle thoroughly inaccurate, but when
it
comes down to it, not much about it is interesting or even
entertaining.
Malcolm McLaren apparently squandered the majority of the Sex Pistols
earnings on this waste of film, which makes it that much more obnoxious.
The
intention, from the beginning, was to create a monument to the "genius" of
McLaren, who to this day takes full credit for creating punk music,
creating
the Sex Pistols, and at times even writing all the songs. Viewers follow
McLaren to various settings, where he tells his story to his sidekick, a
female dwarf, and simply takes credit for one thing after another. One
particularly irritating scene has McLaren in an abandoned airplane hangar,
waiting for a plane, being hounded by reporters and giving them their "big
story".
The most entertaining elements of the film are the animated short pieces,
however, even these reek of McLaren's overbearing self-importance.
Even as a farce, this film doesn't work. Little about it is entertaining,
except for Steve Jones, who is surprisingly decent as a pseudo-detective
type person. 20 years later, Julien Temple, who wrote and directed this
film, also directed the Sex Pistols documentary "The Filth and the Fury".
While that movie is much better and more interesting than "Swindle", it
still is full of Temple's "artistic flourishes" that just don't work, like
interviewing band members in shadow, as if they are some kind of crime
witness trying to hide their identity.
An interesting bit of trivia: Film critic Roger Ebert was one of the
original scriptwriters for the movie "Who Killed Bambi?", which eventually
became "Swindle".
4 out of 5 people found the following review useful:
Patch-worked movie about the Sex Pistols is a hit and miss project., 19 November 2003
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Author:
Miyagis_Sweaty_wifebeater (sirjosephu@aol.com) from Sacramento, CA
During the Sex Pistols heyday, their manager Malcolm McLaren had an
idea to market the band as a noveaux Beatles. From 19776-1980, McLaren
spent the band's money trying get the film off the ground. He went
through several directors and writers until he finally settled on
Julien Temple (a young film-maker). Temple and McLaren himself shot
hours and hours of footage, sketches and concert footage. After working
on this project for almost four years and with nothing resembling
anything like a coherent movie, Temple decided to make a collage out of
the footage and re-shot and edited the useful film segments and made a
surprisingly entertaining film (considering the tight budget and time
restraints). By the time the movie was released, Sid Vicious was dead,
John Lydon was in Public Image Limited and Paul Cook and Steve Jones
were in a new wave band called the Professionals. Neither of them were
even speaking to their former manager. So, at the last minute, Temple
decided to make the movie about the rise and fall of the Sex Pistols.
As for the band members, John Lydon didn't want to have anything to do
with McLaren's project. Sid Vicious went along because of the money he
was promised, ditto for Cook and Jones. The three former band members
participated in the film without Lydon. Most of the music for the
soundtrack was composed by Paul Cook and Steve Jones, Sid Vicious sang
vocals on a few tracks but the music was played by Cook and Jones.
Watch for Nancy Spurgen, she makes cameos in several of Sid Vicious
sketches. Several scenes from the movie that showed up on the double
album soundtrack do not appear in the final cut of the film. Maybe one
day they'll release a director's cut of the movie. Yes, that is the
Great Train Robbery participant Ronnie Biggs playing himself in the
movie. He even sings on a couple of tracks and he's not that bad of a
lead vocalist.
Recommended for fans of British punk and of the Sex Pistols.
4 out of 5 people found the following review useful:
One entertaining piece of music history, 13 June 2001
Author:
sick_boy420xxx (sick_boy420xxx@hotmail.com) from Buffalo, NY
Pseudo-documentary about the revolutionary Sex Pistols and the creation of the British punk movement told through images, songs, animation, interviews, and other genuinely entertaining bits and pieces. The film is more of a creative work then a documentary, as it weaves a story about how the Pistols swindled music company after music company, behind their dictatorial manager, Malcolm McLaren. If nothing else, a must for fans of punk music or the Pistols, as their is a lot of interesting archival footage of the band from their brief but legendary existence. A lot of good songs too, including a disco version of 3 of the Pistols's hits, and my personal favorite, "Friggin in the Riggin," set to an animated sequence paralleling the Pistols's history.
4 out of 5 people found the following review useful:
A Rollicking Rock 'n' Roll Movie, 15 September 1999
Author:
Mr.K
Julien Temple's inaccurate depiction of the rise and fall of British punk
pioneers the Sex Pistols is nevertheless an entertaining tale of life in the
music industry. Told from the perspective of the group's erstwhile manager
Malcolm Mclaren, it charts the creation, development, hyping and subsequent
implosion of the Sex Pistols, up to early 1979, when bass player Sid Vicious
committed suicide.
Drawing on archive footage (not all of which is authentic), mixed with
animation, newsreels and Mclaren's narration - the film is often as
haphazard and random as the genre it speaks of, but, bolstered with music by
the Sex Pistols (And peculiar partnerships of the group with odd guests,
such as Great Train Robber Ronald Biggs), the film trundles along at a
cheerful pace.
Much of the film is in exceptionally bad taste (The nude teenager "Sue
Catwoman" - whose underwear was visibly chromakeyed in when the censors
refused to pass the scene, the pedophile music boss, Martin Boormann singing
"Belsen Was A Gas", for example), and its rambling plot bears testimony to
the numerous rewites needed over the three years it took to produce, during
which time the director was replaced (Russ Meyer was originally to direct),
the financial backers changed more than once, the Sex Pistols formally split
up, the film was retitled from "Who Killed Bambi?", and Sid Vicious died
having (allegedly) killed his girlfriend.
In real terms, the film is not brilliant, and its factual inaccuracies have
since been proven in court, but as an artistic statement and a chronicle of
the punk scene in London in 1978, it's very enjoyable, and should form part
of any serious music-fan's "History" section.
7 out of 11 people found the following review useful:
yeah, swindle. for real. rotters, 8 June 2004
Author:
buyjesus from me home
after seeing John Lydon break down over the senseless exploitation of
sid vicious when he absolutely hit bottom in Temple's other sex pistols
film "The Filth and the Fury," he must have wanted to disown this
little piece of trashy lucre. the finale with its spinning headlines
and the anka-fueled massacre are just the tips of the iceberg on the
meaty, excessive collage film assembled here.
the star on board is mclaren, in full sleazeball form. to the
unsuspecting eye, it seems like an act. it is, of course, until you
realize that it's the same act he kept up in the public eye for years,
while running his little pet project dry. mclaren cut his teeth on
theater of the absurd and fancies his managerial life a kind of
kaufman-esque performance. the only problem is that mclaren often-times
does not have the consent of his lab rats, a bunch of naughty British
hooligans that called themselves the sex pistols (no, mclaren did NOT
come up with the name).
therefore, it's partially amusing to watch mclaren credit himself with
inventing the wheel in punk rock, and partially disgusting when you
approach the subject matter knowing he gave nary a shat about the
well-being of his bandmates nor the political and social commentary
they, especially rotten, were trying to convey. mclaren was more
interested in assembling a forefather to reality TV- life as
nihilistic, self-imploding art.
the movie itself is not much. there's laughs here and there, but mostly
it's a bloated and deadweight companion piece to "The Filth and the
Fury," mostly wound into watchability by excellent live performances
and some bizarre visual interpretations of songs (some of which seem
hardly composed on a punk rock budget). "who killed bambi" (also
mclaren's idea with none of the band members really interested in the
idea) shows up in several parts and proves to be a quite pointless
endeavor.
the majority of punk rock was not known for its rock star exploits off
the stage (in fact, that was kinda the point- that these werent rock
stars at all). if there had to have been a band to make a boisterous
film with sex and drugs and midgets and animation and disco dancing,
it's probably best that it was the sex pistols. overall, this film
should be mostly reserved for hardcore fans, though others may find
value in the sheer novelty of the package. but do yourself a favor and
see "filth" first.
4 out of 6 people found the following review useful:
Very interesting movie, 5 February 2005
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margus-kiis from Estonia
I know that there are McLaren's side and Lydon's side and they hate each other. And Lydonists also hate this movie. For me they are both nasty and egocentric guys with their bad and good ideas. Whatever. I don't care about the ideology of the movie. But the movie is surprisingly good and interesting. I have seen several rock films and this is one of bests. Documentary, fiction, feature parts and animations are cut together in very entertaining way and I don't see any problem in directing and acting. Surprisingly professional movie. And maybe without "Swindle..." we wouldn't have so much footages of Sex Pistols and the whole 70's punk scene.
2 out of 3 people found the following review useful:
Did we ever find out who did kill Bambi?, 22 January 2009
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Author:
m-vinteuil from New Zealand
From the epicenter of the cultural globe, four working class teenagers
attempted to change the world through music and fashion. It was the
final attempt to do so last century, and they failed. Before the dust
had cleared, band manager and SEX shop proprietor Malcolm McLaren spent
the money The Sex Pistols had earned to make a "mockumentary" about his
own role in their success. The film was called The Great Rock 'n Roll
Swindle (take the hint) and consists of very little footage of The Sex
Pistols actually playing music, and quite a lot of footage of McLaren
effectively calling the audience idiots.
Cod-surrealist nonsense in which guitarist Steve Jones is a detective
on McLaren's tail, soon dissolves so he and drummer Paul Cook can jet
off to Rio and spend time with "great train robber" Ronnie Biggs. Ready
yourself for the spectacle of three very unappealing men dancing naked
to a hideous irony-free version of "Belsen was a Gas" (a song about
killing Jews for gold in Bergen-Belsen concentration camp), and another
song sung in Ronnie's tone deaf whine which includes the lyrics "God
save Myra Hindley, God save Ian Brady" (lyrics that Johnny Rotten would
have considered distasteful). The Sid Vicious scenes are few and
idiotic. Jumping out of bed in a thong with a swastika over the
testicles to sing some bad boy biker song from the '50s. Playing into
to the "Punk's a joke" theme of the movie, in an attempt to turn Sid
into James Dean. I'm surprised McLaren doesn't take credit for Siddy's
death too. The redeeming scenes are those of Sid in Paris and the
infamous performance of My Way. The punk rock zeitgeist right there.
Mocking an adoring audience before shooting them all. No need for an
entire film, just watch that clip on YouTube.
From Julien Temple's far superior (and more enjoyable) 2001 documentary
followup, The Filth and the Fury, we were given a more balanced/honest
view of what transpired in '78. But there were also a number of scenes
that I would have liked to have seen in Swindle (as Fury was basically
a reediting of the same material). One was an animated Sid complete
with Sid's voice acting; "You f*cken betta wat'ch out, alright, or I'll
slice you open" - a still of which appeared on the cover of the
Something Else 7 inch - a snippet was shown in Fury, but I don't know
what context that originally appeared. Was it in original prints, but
removed after Sid's death? Was there more? Fury also shed light on the
film Who Killed Bambi, which would have been the mock Hard Day's Night
movie McLaren was originally intending to make. It starred Sting(!) as
a member of a gay New Romantics group, and looked a damn sight more
entertaining than Swindle.
Sod Swindle, t'is a swindle. If you must, rent The Filth and The Fury
and revel in music's failure as a world changing polemic.
2 out of 3 people found the following review useful:
Weird! Weird! Weird!, 14 July 2006
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Author:
simonk_h from New Zealand
At the risk of making you spend more money, I suggest that before you watch this movie, you should read John Lydon's autobiography, 'Rotten'. It gives a good account of that era and once you have read a bit into the history behind the film, it will mean a whole lot more. That doesn't mean to say that it ceases to be weird. The opening sequences are just about the strangest twenty minutes of film that I have ever seen. There are moments of brilliance though. Particularly Sid Vicious shoving a cake in some french prostitute's face is one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time. I generally think that Sid Vicious was an idiot (well, he was) but in this film, he comes across as an almost like-able, possibly insane character. The film seems to have a storyline of sorts but it all becomes confused in a muddle of history, punk rock and random sex. Malcolm McLaren comes across as a self-centred egomaniac (as usual) and Steve Jones is interesting as the detective on his trail. The trip to Rio seems to confirm Lydon's doubts about the whole thing. It was just a gimmick and what IS the point in glorifying the deeds of a man who helped to steal what was basically working class money? The song was crap anyway. This is a bizarre film so approach with an open mind or you will switch off very quickly as I did first time round.
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