Thieves (1977) User Reviews

He's uptown, she's downtown.

[mark.waltz · 6/10 · 16 April 2024]

Charles Grodin and Marlo Thomas are a married couple having problems simply because they have too many things not in common and need time apart. He works as a teacher at a charter school near Lincoln Center and she works at a school on the lower east side with underprivileged kids.

She needs to connect with who she really is, while has to find himself, and hopefully not in bed with the seductive Ann Wedgeworth who lives next door. She's tempted by John McMartin, a married man she met on the street. Thomas has a personal interest in the troubled orphan Larry B. Scott ("Revenge of the Nerds"), wanting to help him by bringing him into their home, but Grodin objects.

A forgotten Broadway play by Herb Gardner ("A Thousand Clowns") that was a hit in its day but hasn't been revived, It resulted in a movie that very few people remember. Irwin Corey may turn some people off as Thomas's grizzled cab driver father with his constant racist rants, but he's certainly real. I enjoyed this for the view of gritty 70's New York, but the film (like most movie versions of obviously complicated plays) has far too many directions in which it's going. Still, good performances and believable characters makes this interesting as a slice of life from a pie they no longer have the recipe for.

It Doesn't Quite Capture the Charm of the Play ... However ...

[DMSpencer · 7/10 · 2 January 2012]

I'm encouraged and happy to see such enthusiastic reviews of this film, and from people who (apparently) never saw the play upon which it is based. Because that means that, for some, what the play had translates to the screen.

For me ... I saw THIEVES on Broadway. It had a stellar supporting cast and two of the same leads as the film: Marlo Thomas and, as her father, Irwin Corey. Marlo's husband was played by the late, great Richard Mulligan. At the time, Charles Grodin was director (having taken over out of town, when a bewildered Michael Bennett decided it was unfixable). In the film, Grodin has assumed the role of the husband and he's fine (he has a subtle touch which is a nice enough trade off for Mulligan's manic intensity). And what one can be grateful for is that the play has been preserved in this manner at all. It's a respectable document of a too-long-neglected work by one of America's best dramatists (Herb Gardner wrote the screenplay too, which despite a few frustrating cutting room edits, sticks close to the outline of the play).

The flip side is that the film doesn't lift the material. As filmmaking it's kind of flat and often seems like nothing more than the play being filmed on location, almost documentary style. It is, however, better than nothing.

As others have noted, THIEVES is indeed unavailable as a commercial release (unless you find the rare UK videotape in PAL format). And it should have at least that much life. But it hasn't completely vanished: that selfsame British videotape has been digitized for home-brewed DVDs and can be found on renegade disks sold on certain internet sites by certain internet vendors. IMDb rules say I cannot specify where, but creative web-browsing should eventually lead you to a relatively inexpensive copy. And indeed, that's how I located mine. *I OFFER* you that advice for free.

Herb Gardner: An American Treasure

[claster · 10/10 · 2 August 2009]

Okay, sure, it's talky. But such wonderful talk. Indelible characters, profound humor, and amazing speeches. This movie should not be as forgotten as it is. In its own talky way, it's brilliant. This, along with "A Thousand Clowns," absolutely deserves a DVD release. Marlo Thomas' performance is incisive and touching. Charles Grodin is the perfect foil for her. Irwin Corey, as her father, has what may be the best speech in the movie (and one of the best speeches in all movies) when he gives her an extra year of life. Look for a nifty cameo from Bob Fosse, and catch Jule Styne singing on the soundtrack. But the star here is Herb Gardner, with his wonderful sensitive writing. Do whatever you have to in order to see this forgotten gem.

Pitiful is Funny!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dataconflossmoor · 10/10 · 22 January 2004]

Both Marlo Thomas and Charles Grodin play a socially dysfunctional couple who are basically INSANE!!..(Her insanity being more transparent) This is a characteristic that rules their lives...Bellvue cannot take care of them and they cannot take care themselves..Marlo Thomas is 39 years old before she realizes her father is deaf!!!...They love New York more than anything else...New York doesn't necessarily like them...The future is mapped out and it is pretty much established that everyone in the movie will wind up fighting a losing battle!!! The acting in this movie is extremely good!!...I love this twisted plot which borders on no plot at all...The same director as "1000 Clowns" has a knack for making an extremely horrible situation funny, I mean very funny!!...As he does in "Thieves"....Thieves is the definition of comedy, the situation for the characters involved is catastrophic, yet anyone who sits backs and observes will find these messed up people hilarious!!!I liked this movie, and I love dialogue and plots that are unconventional!!...I give this movie 4 out of 5 stars!!!

Dialog that stays with you forever.

[MomioAndretti · 10/10 · 3 March 2005]

I saw this movie once, in 1977, and I still think of it at times. The humor was ahead of it's time then, and still funny now.

The philosophy, and the origin of the title, holds up well.

Are the players crazy? Or are they doing the only thing they can to cope in an insane world? Some of their choices, especially when it comes to moving, appear out-of-the-ordinary. But when we learn the reasons for their actions, we start to see some clever tools for holding their marriage together at all costs.

Marlo Thomas is her usual, lovable self. Charles Grodin has never been funnier.

The dialog is clipped, (think His Girl Friday), and filled with nonsense and good sense. Some of it will stay with you for years.

Time Is a Thief

[drednm · 13 September 2019]

THIEVES is based on Herb Gardner's 1974 play that ran for more than 300 performances on Broadway. It's not an easy film story to watch, but the performers are all so good you can't stop watching. Marlo Thomas repeats her stage role as Sally, the feisty teacher in a ghetto school married to dullard Marty (Charles Grodin) who's the principal at a posh private school. Fifteen years before they had been social rebels, demonstrators, and involved. Now they've become increasingly isolated in their comfy high-rise world. Sally has retained some rebellious fire, but she's afraid to admit the marriage is over. Over the course of a fateful night and the following day, they meet a series of people who help them examine and define their lives. While Sally tries to confront her loveless marriage and a possible abortion, Marty tries to find his own roots in an abandoned theater. Solid supporting cast has John McMartin, Ann Wedgeworth, Hector Elizondo, and others living in urban isolation. Best of all and an amazing surprise is Irwin Corey as Sally's cab-driver father and one-time Vaudeville player. His seemingly senseless rants that become monologues about finding cohesion in a splintered world are often very funny but also sad in their truthfulness. Others in the film are Mercedes McCambridge, Gary Merrill, Bob Fosse, Alice Drummond, and Zvee Scooler. Grodin had directed the stage version. Best thing I've ever seen Marlo Thomas do.

Scratch your head until it bleeds....

[RitchCS · 10/10 · 6 November 2010]

One can sit down and make a list of the movies that SHOULD be released on DVD and make an even longer list of the ones that should NEVER have been put on VHS, much less DVD or Blu-Ray. Academy Award nominated screenplays, performances, direction, etc. To mention just a few, why hasn't "The Dark At the Top of the Stairs" by William Inge with Oscar nominated performance by the wonderful 'music man', Robert Preston never been released on DVD? How about, "Dear Heart" with two of the greatest actors and performances ever captivated on celluloid, the amazing Geraldine Page (Oscar nominated) and the ever-always great, Glen Ford? Where's Ted Turner's push to save great films? Where is Martin Scorsese doing the same? One could scratch their head wondering. But one could scratch his head until it bleeds wondering why this masterpiece of dialogue and monologues as only Herb Gardner could write, is sitting on some dusty shelf turning to immortal dust. As a write said (above my message) Irwin Corey's speech is one that will never be forgotten by those of us lucky enough to have seen "Thieves". Had the film been made in black and white with a monster as a character, it would have been on the DVD rental shelves YEARS AGO. Marlo Thomas and Charles Grodin, BOTH terrific actors, giving two award-deserving performances only alive in the memory of the few of us who loved the film. MARTIN! TED! PLEASE! Don't overlook this title while you're deciding which movies to save...add "Dark at the Top" and "Dear Heart" to the list as well! THANX!!!