17 out of 20 people found the following comment useful :- A concealed jewel, 24 January 2005
Author:
jackush
The fact that this is the very first commentary here shows that we
don't deal with one of the most famous movies of the great Spanish
master, and this fact is really stunning. Even if not set in the dance
medium, especially flamenco and tango, with which Saura is generally
linked, this movie is highly personal. Saura is one of the very few
directors who succeed to be very national in its cinematographic
language."Elisa" is no exception: the outdoor images, looking like De
Greco and Goya paintings, the stunning performance of the actors
remembering sometimes flamenco intensity, give to this movie a glorious
cinematographic presence. The issue which stands in the center of this
movie is a universally and uneasy one: the relation between father and
daughter. Saura knows to avoid a tabloid depiction of this relation,
although it doesn't avoid the border-line oedipal tensions. Throughout
settled mostly in a chamber-music like duet, it doesn't have the
claustrophobic Bergman character. The movie is a love duet, with its
aggressive and passionate outcome. Awesome experience. .
5 out of 5 people found the following comment useful :- Father and Daughter Relationship, 19 July 2008
Author:
Claudio Carvalho from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Elisa (Geraldine Chaplin) has not seen her father Luis (Fernando Rey)
for nine years, but she receives a telegram from her sister Isabel
(Isabel Mestres) in a moment of crisis of her marriage with Antonio
(Norman Briski) telling that her father is ill and she decides to
travel to the countryside of Madrid with Isabel and her brother-in-law
Julián (Joaquín Hinojosa) and their two children to visit Luis for his
birthday. Elisa decides to stay with his father when her sister returns
to Madrid with her family and she gets closer to Luis, understanding
why he left her mother years ago. Later she tells him that Antonio
cheated her with her best friend Sophie and their relationship has
ended. When Antonio unexpectedly arrives in the house, Elisa takes a
decision about her life.
"Elisa, Vida Mía" is a beautiful movie about father and daughter
relationship. The performances of Fernando Rey and Geraldine Chaplin
are awesome and full of feelings. There are moments that I found
confused to be understood, like the incestuous scene, but in general
this drama is very nice. My vote is six.
Title (Brazil): "Elisa Vida Mia"
3 out of 3 people found the following comment useful :- I did not expect it would be such a good film, 21 June 2006
Author:
Natashenka_S from Israel
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
In the beginning of the film an old man Luis (Fernando Rey) is working
on his memoirs (or something of a kind). The chapter he is currently
writing is the monologue of his estranged daughter Elisa. The father's
voice recites her confession: 'I hadn't seen my father for years, I
almost never wrote him... When I got my sister's telegram, telling me
of his illness... I decided to go to Madrid. Selfishly speaking,
finally I had an excuse to get away from home... I left, I now realize,
knowing I'd never return'.
Luis had left his family many years ago. He did not write a farewell
letter or took anything with him. His wife was devastated, and her
belief that Luis was a sick and selfish man somehow affected her
daughters. Luis felt that he had a talent for literature and moved to a
distant countryside, because he couldn't stand the routine full of
false values.
But in the beginning we see Luis' family coming to the countryside to
his birthday. The visitors are Elisa (Geraldine Chaplin) and her sister
Isabel with her husband and two children. Elisa finds some papers in
the father's room. Luis is painfully reflecting on his life: he is
tired because he isn't sure whether all his past experience has any
value. Now he has come to a conclusion that one just needs to enjoy
every moment of his life; but he is afraid to take this new path
thinking that it might be too late. As Elisa reads these words, the
sadness in her eyes is striking; it seems that she has just found an
explanation to something very important for her.
The family spends a few days in the countryside and is about to leave,
but at the last moment Elisa decides to stay. She and Luis go for a
walk (it is very beautiful there). In the field Elisa sees a strange
white stone and a vase with flowers by its side. Luis tells her a
story: some years ago he encountered here a murdered woman, later
someone brought the flowers - it was actually the killer. Elisa is
deeply affected by the story and imagines that she is this woman.
As time passes Elisa and her father get closer. Luis takes her to a
local church school where he teaches kids. There is another scene when
Elisa recalls one of her father's letters. He confesses that his
attitude to his own writing is not what it used to be. He would write
several drafts for his letter and hoped they'd be published one day,
there was something snobbish in this practice. Now it is clear to him
that a writer is just one of the many jobs in the world, he is not
superior to a simple worker. This understanding is tied to one of the
closing scenes. The children whom he teaches are rehearsing a play, and
they constantly argue about the roles. Everyone wants to play a king or
some other man of power, no one agrees to take a role of a poor man,
and there is a belief that one must be a good person to deserve a
'decent' role. But it is a wrong perception, because one's role is not
to be confused with the life itself. A good man is the one who makes
the best of the role he is given.
Elisa wants to have a look at her father's manuscript, but he says he
can't show it at the moment. Later Elisa tells him a story of her
failed relationships with Antonio, her husband who has cheated on her
with her best friend. This marriage was doomed from the beginning and
she always felt it but for some reason tried to deceive herself, and
now her world collapsed. Antonio comes to the countryside and tries to
talk to Elisa. She explains to him that everything is over between
them, they have a painful exchange of reproaches. What comes after
Elisa sends Antonio home is a surreal scene of closeness (on the verge
of incest). It occurs in the mind of either Elisa or Luis, who at this
moment writes down Elisa thoughts of her life with a man she has never
actually known. He stops when he hears her crying in the other room and
goes to comfort her, but she bursts out in rage and they nearly beat
each other.
Next morning Elisa lingers by a white stone and says a sorrowful
monologue: 'Nobody has told me that all this beautiful story would have
such a horrible ending'. Elisa imagines again that she is the murdered
woman; to be more precise, she lives deliberately through the woman's
horrible death, as if feeling that something inside of her must be
killed.
Then she and her father are reunited, but he is getting worse. He
refuses to go to hospital. In the morning, while Elisa is out, he
leaves too. Elisa encounters him in the field, he is dying, and this is
a really unforgettable, sad and beautiful episode, one of the most
affectionate farewell scenes I have seen in the movies. Elisa stays at
her father's home and continues his book. At the end she writes down
the same monologue that we heard in the beginning spoken out by her
father.
It seemed to me really weird that 'Elisa vida mia' is a film so little
known. It is masterfully crafted and beautifully acted, deep and full
of nuances. I loved this film just as much as Cria Cuervos and would
recommend it to everyone.
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17 out of 20 people found the following comment useful :-

A concealed jewel, 24 January 2005
Author: jackush
The fact that this is the very first commentary here shows that we don't deal with one of the most famous movies of the great Spanish master, and this fact is really stunning. Even if not set in the dance medium, especially flamenco and tango, with which Saura is generally linked, this movie is highly personal. Saura is one of the very few directors who succeed to be very national in its cinematographic language."Elisa" is no exception: the outdoor images, looking like De Greco and Goya paintings, the stunning performance of the actors remembering sometimes flamenco intensity, give to this movie a glorious cinematographic presence. The issue which stands in the center of this movie is a universally and uneasy one: the relation between father and daughter. Saura knows to avoid a tabloid depiction of this relation, although it doesn't avoid the border-line oedipal tensions. Throughout settled mostly in a chamber-music like duet, it doesn't have the claustrophobic Bergman character. The movie is a love duet, with its aggressive and passionate outcome. Awesome experience. .
5 out of 5 people found the following comment useful :-

Father and Daughter Relationship, 19 July 2008
Author: Claudio Carvalho from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Elisa (Geraldine Chaplin) has not seen her father Luis (Fernando Rey) for nine years, but she receives a telegram from her sister Isabel (Isabel Mestres) in a moment of crisis of her marriage with Antonio (Norman Briski) telling that her father is ill and she decides to travel to the countryside of Madrid with Isabel and her brother-in-law Julián (Joaquín Hinojosa) and their two children to visit Luis for his birthday. Elisa decides to stay with his father when her sister returns to Madrid with her family and she gets closer to Luis, understanding why he left her mother years ago. Later she tells him that Antonio cheated her with her best friend Sophie and their relationship has ended. When Antonio unexpectedly arrives in the house, Elisa takes a decision about her life.
"Elisa, Vida Mía" is a beautiful movie about father and daughter relationship. The performances of Fernando Rey and Geraldine Chaplin are awesome and full of feelings. There are moments that I found confused to be understood, like the incestuous scene, but in general this drama is very nice. My vote is six.
Title (Brazil): "Elisa Vida Mia"
3 out of 3 people found the following comment useful :-

I did not expect it would be such a good film, 21 June 2006
Author: Natashenka_S from Israel
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
In the beginning of the film an old man Luis (Fernando Rey) is working on his memoirs (or something of a kind). The chapter he is currently writing is the monologue of his estranged daughter Elisa. The father's voice recites her confession: 'I hadn't seen my father for years, I almost never wrote him... When I got my sister's telegram, telling me of his illness... I decided to go to Madrid. Selfishly speaking, finally I had an excuse to get away from home... I left, I now realize, knowing I'd never return'.
Luis had left his family many years ago. He did not write a farewell letter or took anything with him. His wife was devastated, and her belief that Luis was a sick and selfish man somehow affected her daughters. Luis felt that he had a talent for literature and moved to a distant countryside, because he couldn't stand the routine full of false values.
But in the beginning we see Luis' family coming to the countryside to his birthday. The visitors are Elisa (Geraldine Chaplin) and her sister Isabel with her husband and two children. Elisa finds some papers in the father's room. Luis is painfully reflecting on his life: he is tired because he isn't sure whether all his past experience has any value. Now he has come to a conclusion that one just needs to enjoy every moment of his life; but he is afraid to take this new path thinking that it might be too late. As Elisa reads these words, the sadness in her eyes is striking; it seems that she has just found an explanation to something very important for her.
The family spends a few days in the countryside and is about to leave, but at the last moment Elisa decides to stay. She and Luis go for a walk (it is very beautiful there). In the field Elisa sees a strange white stone and a vase with flowers by its side. Luis tells her a story: some years ago he encountered here a murdered woman, later someone brought the flowers - it was actually the killer. Elisa is deeply affected by the story and imagines that she is this woman.
As time passes Elisa and her father get closer. Luis takes her to a local church school where he teaches kids. There is another scene when Elisa recalls one of her father's letters. He confesses that his attitude to his own writing is not what it used to be. He would write several drafts for his letter and hoped they'd be published one day, there was something snobbish in this practice. Now it is clear to him that a writer is just one of the many jobs in the world, he is not superior to a simple worker. This understanding is tied to one of the closing scenes. The children whom he teaches are rehearsing a play, and they constantly argue about the roles. Everyone wants to play a king or some other man of power, no one agrees to take a role of a poor man, and there is a belief that one must be a good person to deserve a 'decent' role. But it is a wrong perception, because one's role is not to be confused with the life itself. A good man is the one who makes the best of the role he is given.
Elisa wants to have a look at her father's manuscript, but he says he can't show it at the moment. Later Elisa tells him a story of her failed relationships with Antonio, her husband who has cheated on her with her best friend. This marriage was doomed from the beginning and she always felt it but for some reason tried to deceive herself, and now her world collapsed. Antonio comes to the countryside and tries to talk to Elisa. She explains to him that everything is over between them, they have a painful exchange of reproaches. What comes after Elisa sends Antonio home is a surreal scene of closeness (on the verge of incest). It occurs in the mind of either Elisa or Luis, who at this moment writes down Elisa thoughts of her life with a man she has never actually known. He stops when he hears her crying in the other room and goes to comfort her, but she bursts out in rage and they nearly beat each other.
Next morning Elisa lingers by a white stone and says a sorrowful monologue: 'Nobody has told me that all this beautiful story would have such a horrible ending'. Elisa imagines again that she is the murdered woman; to be more precise, she lives deliberately through the woman's horrible death, as if feeling that something inside of her must be killed.
Then she and her father are reunited, but he is getting worse. He refuses to go to hospital. In the morning, while Elisa is out, he leaves too. Elisa encounters him in the field, he is dying, and this is a really unforgettable, sad and beautiful episode, one of the most affectionate farewell scenes I have seen in the movies. Elisa stays at her father's home and continues his book. At the end she writes down the same monologue that we heard in the beginning spoken out by her father.
It seemed to me really weird that 'Elisa vida mia' is a film so little known. It is masterfully crafted and beautifully acted, deep and full of nuances. I loved this film just as much as Cria Cuervos and would recommend it to everyone.
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