Some feel the resemblances between 2001 and Homer's epic are general, at best, and coincidental, at worst. It appears Kubrick and Clarke were not making a literal adaptation of Homer's poetry, but only working along similar epic lines. In the quote by the pair, made before the film was even in production, Kubrick emphasizes this more general similarity by saying his project is only "comparable in some ways" to Homer. Clarke, meanwhile, seems more interested in later history, the "voyages of the Renaissance [that] transformed the Dark Ages." Supporters of the Homer connection feel that, since one of Odysseus' skills was as an archer, Dave's last name of Bowman makes the connection literal. Discounting that Dave isn't an archer at all, despite his name, this tenuous link grows weaker still in light of the differences in the two characters. Homer's protagonist, after all, is a vindictive, brutal, self-serving scoundrel. And, outside surface similarities, their journeys are entirely unalike. Dave is on an outward-bound voyage of discovery, while Odysseus' only concern is getting back home. Nor do their deeds make the supposed resemblances any stronger, since these are actions found in most all epic stories. In science-fiction film, for instance, both Ripley of the Alien series and Neo from The Matrix series must rescue some of their companions, lose others to "monsters," avoid spectacular hazards, survive storms, visit strange locales, have extended stays in those places, and return from them greatly changed. In short, to those who aren't convinced by its supporters, the Homer connection seems no more than a passing similarity in epic styles.